From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #747 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, August 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 747 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Listening to Fruvous Albums (was Impressions) [srm9988n@aol.comicreli] Re: BNL/Moxy Fruvous ["Valerie Jones" ] Re: DIRECTIONS TO HARBOURFRONT [Fiona ] Re: Independence Day Question [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead ] yet another new frudegreen [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] Tom Waits and Shadowy Men (Was: Re: Yet another Canadian Thornhill Review (Huge)) [acaia78@aol.com] Re: Independence Day Question ["Valerie Jones" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Aug 1999 03:20:17 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Listening to Fruvous Albums (was Impressions) Snarky Spice said: >Now, it was a long time before I acquired Wood. It's never gone through >a phase as my favorite Fruvous album, though I like all the songs on it. >(Horseshoes remains my choice for the optimal Fruvous song because it >showcases all the guys talents so completely, and it's quirky without >being cheesy.) However, in the right mood, Wood hits the spot. I am a confessed wood-aholic. Favorite Früvous cd, hands down, since the 3rd or 4th time I played it (I acquired it, Bargainville, b, and YWGTTM in one swell foop after first owning LN.) However, today I undertook what became an experiment but began as mere coincidence; i played Thornhill and wood back-to-back. And I sat here, utterly stupefied, with the only thought I was able to articulate being "my GOD they've grown!!!" Instrumentally, vocally, production-values-wise ... Remembering the way they made the instrumentals in Nuits de Reve shriek live, having witnessed the transformation of Horseshoes, and having heard the confident, full-tilt playing they're willing to do in studio now (i.e., Thornhill), the sacrilegious notion occurs to me that if they could re-record the songs on wood with the skill and knowledge they possess now ... THAT would be my favorite album. :) Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:07:26 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Re: BNL/Moxy Fruvous let me preface this by saying that i don't have an accurate picture of just how *big* BNL are right now ... like the size of venues they play, etc. with that in mind, what would be the possibility of a "double bill" type tour? ya know, where m.f. would be promoted right alongside BNL (and not omitted from the advertising and the listing on the actual ticket). tours like that give more time to the first band on the bill (often with each band getting close to equal time on stage). what i'd like to know, though, is where the rumor came from? did you hear it on a newsgroup?...or from someone associated with one of the bands?...etc.? of course i prefer to see *just* früvous playing as long a set as possible. but i'm all for them getting more recognition and attention, and making money from the increased album sales that those things bring. i'd go to a show like that, and then *i'd* be exposed to BNL, at last. >:) ~v~ valerie@fruhead.com Bballmick wrote: > I recently heard a rumor that Moxy Fruvous may be opening for BNL during their > winter tour... does anyone know if this is true? I personally think that this > would be an incredible concert. The only drawback would be that Moxy would > probably have a shorter set : ( Any other thoughts? > Maria ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:23:38 -0400 From: Fiona Subject: Re: DIRECTIONS TO HARBOURFRONT Brent McNamee wrote: > Fi, are you complaining AGAIN?!?!?! You called me "Fi". You might want to consider hiding from me at Harbourfront. It's probably a wonderful idea. Run fast. Hope I haven't bought a Pail. (Jian don't get any of your infamous mispronunciation ideas, you won't live to grin about it) Remember.. if a whole five letters/3 syllables is too long for you, go with 4 letters/1 syllable - Nafs. This is the ONLY short form I won't box your ears for. > I thought the therapy would work, but OH no... :-) Therapy has never been much help to me. If it had been I wouldn't be a Frühead. > Anyway, folks, here's a useful link for you: an actual, > honest-to-goodness MAP! Is that supposed to be helpful? did you look at it? As Paul said "I know where it is.. it's on the biggest pier" Yes, that's good to know. Now, are you planning on coming in by helicopter so you can JUDGE the sizes of the piers? Molson Place isn't visible from the street. Fiona (really in a better mood than this makes me sound) - -- hey, if you're going to get lost, go big or go home, eh? - Veronica Once again proving that *all* roads lead to OTville, - Trace ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 03:01:40 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Among many other salient things, Joe Navratil wrote: >"The city had a hot dog stand > and lovers walked hand in hand. > And me standing there alone > Except for the clowns I suppose." > >I'm at a loss for the first line. I've been at a loss over this one for awhile -- it seems unnatural, an artificial observation. And I think maybe that's the point -- **A** hot dog stand in any city is utterly inadequate, insufficient, a sight notable for its singularity when one would hope to find it a regular occurrence -- perhaps much like the good part(s) of the failed relationship. Yet the single lonely hotdog stand has the allure of seeming better than nothing, certainly better than a city utterly bereft of hotdog stands, to one who now senses he has nothing left. Maybe if there were a few more metaphorical hot dog stands in the relationship, things would have worked out better. > The rest is easy, when you look at in >a failed-relationship light: "Lovers walked hand in hand," but not the >narrator. He was "alone", and apparently either felt that he was made >to look bad at the end, or feels residual guilt about the end. Thus, he >groups himself with the "clowns" instead of the "lovers". Plus, >everyone digs the whole "tragic clown" juxtaposition. A further note on narrator's identification with the clowns: not only are they comitragic figures, but on this holiday they are not enjoying a day off, but instead are playing stylized, limited, even grotesque roles. The gulf between the clowns, limited by this role they play, and the celebrating townspeople (unshackled from their "roles" at work or school, and so truly themselves for one day?) echoes the separation the narrator is feeling from what had been his more fully defined, if non-independent, life. - -- Lori, who feels like she just wrote a brief literature essay. But at least the epigraphs for newsgroup posts are more fun ... ********************* Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 03:50:32 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: yet another new frudegreen My brother and I were listening to MBLABOA in the car today, and he asked me, "Why is he leaving on the light for Mel Brooks?" Carey (whose mother saw Fruvous pics for the first time today and was very surprised at how "clean-cut" they -- especially Mike -- looked) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 1999 03:40:28 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: Tom Waits and Shadowy Men (Was: Re: Yet another Canadian Thornhill Review (Huge)) Josh Drury, on Earthquakes: > Dave keeps it wacky with this fine piece, >accentuated with that weird, >almost Waitsian instrumentation. I heard this, too -- my brothers suddenly became huge Tom Waits fans this summer, and it's all I ever hear in the house. And on Splatter Splatter: >Also, I am reminded of Shadowy Men on >a Shadowy Planet, for the music as >much as the “shadowy motives” line. I only know their music from my relatively new KitH fandom, so I can't comment on this. But that line reminds me of them, too. "Shadowy planets full of shadowy men," maybe? Carey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:33:19 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Re: Independence Day Question Lori at fruhead dot com theorized: > >"The city had a hot dog stand > > and lovers walked hand in hand. > > And me standing there alone > > Except for the clowns I suppose." > > I've been at a loss over this one for awhile -- it seems unnatural, an > artificial observation. And I think maybe that's the point -- **A** hot dog > stand in any city is utterly inadequate, insufficient, a sight notable for its > singularity when one would hope to find it a regular occurrence -- perhaps much > like the good part(s) of the failed relationship. or maybe he just really likes hot dogs, and wanted to promote them as a good alternative to tofu or Balance bars. just an idea. >;^) ~v~ ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #747 ********************************************