From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #741 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, August 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 741 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: OT: DC area navigation - Trace makes a wrong turn into OTville [trace] Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) ["Jason A. Reise] Re: An OT FAQ comment [trace@fruhead.com (Trace)] Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) [trace@fruhead.c] Re: Got It! [Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] WST (was: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) [srm] Re: A new fan here...hello! ["A FruSmurf" ] Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) [trace@fruhead.c] Re: Got It! [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com)] Re: Got It! ["Winnie da Fru aka Sara" ] Re: OT: DC area navigation - Trace makes a wrong turn into OTville [srm99] OT: Just a thought.... [saphiracat@birdlover.com] MC and Kath's bad week ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: where do YOU buy cds? [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] (No Subject) ["andi andrzejewski" ] Re: An OT FAQ comment [Chad Maloney ] Re: childhood memories ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) [Josh Drury ] Re: New Frudegreen [Groovy Spice ] Re: New Frudegreen [Marie-Claude ] Re: MC and Kath's bad week [Marie-Claude ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:03:34 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: OT: DC area navigation - Trace makes a wrong turn into OTville On 24 Aug 1999 15:55:30 GMT, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: >See, Trace, it's NOT us. :P No? Then *who* is it? And who the heck are you? And for that matter, who am *I* really? I'm feeling conflicted about this. Are you trying to deny my existence and identity? I have an issue with that. Once again proving that *all* roads lead to OTville, - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 09:28:54 -0700 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) In article <37C2B6B6.2E531289@fruhead.com>, Chad says... > >Ok, since I love lyrical discussions, here's my (ever-present) input on >Misplaced. This is one of the stronger songs on Wood to me. Warning that >I like analyzing lyrics and reading into them. Your mileage may vary. Wow... and all along I thought it was about a video game. ;) Nice work there, Chad! >And there ya go. That's what the lyrics to Misplaced say to me, >and darned good lyrics they are at that. Note that I couldn't do >the above with When She Talks. Maybe that's why that song doesn't >appeal to me as much *grin* What about the lines, "A man should not be blamed For wanting to make her mine"? Note the similar detachment that you described in Misplaced -- especially when you consider the pause before "mine." Lets not start a WST meaning to me thread though. - - Jason jreiser@ecoutez.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:58:14 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: An OT FAQ comment On 24 Aug 1999 15:44:24 GMT, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: >new amm-f FAQ listed below, which our dear Tall Chad has just spent untold >hours revamping into a more updated if less wieldy form. Then kick back, >enjoy, and post early and often! :) Actually, the html version on FDC is marked up with handy section and question links, which make it very user friendly. I recommend using the html version since the sheer volume of info in the FAQ is a little overwhelming in the NG posted, html-less form. That being said, I *still* think it is a good idea to post the FAQ regularly on the NG, since 'net users are infamous for not bothering to read FAQs. A possible alternative though, could be for Chad to post the FAQ URL once a month, along with an order for everyone who has not already done so to RTF :-) - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:22:02 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:13:58 -0500, Chad Maloney wrote: > >"Your phone call from Montreal said >I was back into you >But as I listened to the words fall >I treaded as the artist drew >Me down on my knees with liquid eyes begging please >Won't you stay for another course >But if I was you, I'd agree with what you chose to do" > >To me, the most important thing about the first verse here is >showing the detachment with himself the narrator feels. It wasn't >one of the people on the phone that said he was back into her, >it was the phone call. The true narrator himself just sat >and listened as what he described as "me down on my knees..." >happened. I get the feeling that the narrator is actually >saying all this, but doesn't feel it is truly him that >is saying it, hence the detachment. > > > >"And I tried and tried and tried that night >I cried and cried so that we would fight >And distance was the accomplice that saw me lose Hey Chad, I just wanted to say that I like your interpretation of the detachment in the lyrics. Along with that, I wanted to point out that the word "distance" in the chorus perfectly realizes the cumulative effect of such detachment. Although I first interpreted that as "physical separation," there are many ways to be distant from another person, including, but not limited to: emotionally, mentally, and philosophically. That being said, the detachment could also be a product of the passage of time, as when someone looks back upon a past experience when they are divorced from that moment in time. I've always gotten that impression from this song. Narrator looks back upon a painful experience, is able to view it with a degree of detachment, and therefore is better able to recognize his own contributions to what ultimately transpired. If I could sum up my feelings of this song in three words, they would be "reflection," "regret," and "acceptance." - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:42:18 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Got It! Much like Sara, I'm staring at my CD wishing I'd been bright enough to grab my portable CD player on my way out the door this morning. Oh well. 6 minutes from the Eaton Centre?? Did you sprout wings after we left you?! :) Veronica (I, on the other hand, nearly bowled over the President and CEO of my company on my way to Union Station to meet Fiona so we could meet Sara. Oops! :) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 17:49:03 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: WST (was: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) Jason Reiser started it, I swear: >What about the lines, >"A man should not be blamed >For wanting to make her mine"? > >Note the similar detachment that you described in Misplaced -- especially >when >you consider the pause before "mine." > >Lets not start a WST meaning to me thread though. And here I just thought this verse was an exceedingly awkward use of a multiplicity of persons all meaning "I". (Or, alternately, an allegation that any "man", or "you", or whoever, want(s) the girl to be the narrator's. Yeah, dream on. :) ) Sheesh. And they say *I* have an identity crisis. :) - -- Lori **************** But you can't define the girl She's her And I would never try ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:49:37 GMT From: "A FruSmurf" Subject: Re: A new fan here...hello! Sig went snip a lot and decided to reply in the short and sweet fashion...... Hey Richard, RE: NOW magazine Picking up NOW magazine is definitely a good idea. It's a free magazine that gets published every Thursday and you can find it in obnoxiously green newspaper bins. Eye magazine is the 'other' free weekly paper, in bright yellow newspaper bins, but they're not as good. RE: Tory He does the Res on Saturday nights and C'est What on Sunday nights. RE: GBS The new CD, Turn, is very good. They have a good mixture of tunes, but you can really tell which ones have kind of been 'groomed' towards being single/video releases. Going back to work now.... S. PS> Welcome Richard! See ya Thursday - just look for the pudgy blonde midget with a Pooh-bear shoulder bag. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:29:14 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) On 24 Aug 1999 09:28:54 -0700, Jason pondered: > >What about the lines, >"A man should not be blamed >For wanting to make her mine"? > >Note the similar detachment that you described in Misplaced -- especially when >you consider the pause before "mine." Well, in The World According To Jian, no man should be blamed for wanting to make her - Jian's :-) > >Lets not start a WST meaning to me thread though. Oh I think that disclaimer might've come a little too late Jason :-D - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:09:49 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Got It! Veronica said: > (I, on the other hand, nearly bowled over the President and >CEO of my company on my way to Union Station to meet Fiona so we could >meet Sara. Oops! :) Were you lost there too? :) - -- Lori, entirely too idle. **************** grounded with nothing to stand on ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:31:44 GMT From: "Winnie da Fru aka Sara" Subject: Re: Got It! >Much like Sara, I'm staring at my CD wishing I'd been bright enough to >grab my portable CD player on my way out the door this morning. Oh well. Wishing I actually had a discman...but then again, I would look really silly with two sets of headphones on my head! :p >6 minutes from the Eaton Centre?? Did you sprout wings after we left you?! Combination of really fast walking, and then catching a bus when I was only two stops away from my office (cut off about 5 minutes I would think and saved my lungs!). It took me about 12 minutes to walk to HMV, and then the Eaton Centre is slightly further, so I'm impressed with my timing! :) Sara - in love with the inside picture of the group ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 18:03:20 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: OT: DC area navigation - Trace makes a wrong turn into OTville Trace, evidently delighting in giving chad more ammo, says: >>See, Trace, it's NOT us. :P > >No? Then *who* is it? I think that's obvious. THEM. The People Who Don't Know Their Way Around DC Even Though They LIVE There (or close by), but who think People From The Center Of The Megalopolis should be able to navigate this far-southern suburb using mere instinct and misdirection. >And who the heck are you? I am the eggman ... And for that >matter, who am *I* really? You must be the walrus. Koo koo ga joob. I'm feeling conflicted about this. Are >you trying to deny my existence and identity? I have an issue with >that. You, however, appear to think you're Chrissy. :P >Once again proving that *all* roads lead to OTville, What road? Where? WHERE DO I TURN?!?!?! Hey, the only Connecticut I saw on that trip was Avenue. And we made it to every shows on time. I think we done good. :) - -- Lori Lori@fruhead.com ~^~^~^ ~~~^~ ^~^~^ ~^~ ^~^ ~^~^~^~^~ ~^~ ^~^ ^~^~^~ ^~^~ ^~^~~~ My Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly-updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:07:18 GMT From: saphiracat@birdlover.com Subject: OT: Just a thought.... My friend Leah said that Moxy Fruvous didn't want MTV. I'm watching it now, and can see why. Just a thought of the moment. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:46:31 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: MC and Kath's bad week <> LoLoL so that's why so many people at my place of employment are rude to me in the morning! (I work at Manhattan Bagel). LoL. i'm sorry that you had a terrible week. But things will get better. :) Promise. Maggie "Mozart could do it! What the f*ck is your problem?!" -- Fordy ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:23:50 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: Re: where do YOU buy cds? Matt wrote: >The Sound Garden in Baltimore has been >seeling Früvous since Bargainville came >out and they have had Wood and B for >years now (on import at the time). They're >usually very good for more obscure bands >and definitely good for Früvous (although >I bought my Bargainville at Record & >Tape Traders in 1994). I've never been to the Sound Garden -- I always thought it was more for obscure punk/metal bands. I guess I'll have to check it out. I've acquired all the Fruvous CDs since December, and I've found them in all different places.My dad bought me LN from amazon.com, I bought Bargainville at the Towson Barnes and Noble, Wood and YWGTTM at chain stores in the Danbury, CT mall, and I bought b and Thornhill in the Frederick, MD Borders. Carey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:07:17 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: (No Subject) A.J. wrote: Other than those, Morphee, and Hate Letter I've actually seen them play all of their published works at least once. I guess patience pays off. Now guys, how about Bed and Breakfast? but A.J.,I remember seeing Morphee eons ago during the "Bargainville" tour. andi Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:17:29 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: An OT FAQ comment Trace wrote: > A > possible alternative though, could be for Chad to post the FAQ URL > once a month, along with an order for everyone who has not already > done so to RTF :-) I asked this exact question on the newsgroup yesterday and got no responses. I'll consider this one response in favor of posting the URL once a month *grin* - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:59:32 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: Re: childhood memories On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Acaia78 wrote: > Ln wrote: > >what about teddy ruxpin? did anyone else > >have one of those dolls, youd put a tape >in his back and his mouth would move > >and hed tell you the story? and his eyes >would even blink? > > Hee hee! I know somebody who had one of those, and he'd put in Lou Reed tapes. > Not exactly what the toy manufacturers had intended. i have a picture of "teddy reed" in a leather jacket singing "heroin," and "street hassle." ruxpin walks on the wild side! thank you, carey! btw, "... and looking very relaxed on vibes, adolf hitler!" 8-D ciao--vc _________________________________________________________________ "if you sing loud enough, and hit drums hard enough, everything is going to be all right." -- don dixon, _eee_ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 19:12:46 GMT From: Veronica J Gruneberg <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Got It! Oh, ha, ha, ha!! Not even *I* can manage to get lost on the way out of the elevator of the building where I've worked for three years on the way to the train station I've been going to all my life! :) I just didn't expect her to be there, so when I came firing out of the elevator and aroudn the corner I came very near to plowing into her! :) Honestly, I have an impeccable sense of direction! It's just the black hole/vortex that is DC that gets me confused. And the electromagnetic waves distort my sense of direction for... about 500 km surrounding that area! :) I navigated aroudn Europe just fine, thank you very much! :) :) Veronica (convined that the hot air in DC makes it harder to find where you're going. Yes, that's it.) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:09:22 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) Chad Maloney wrote: > "Jason A. Reiser" wrote: > > Wow... and all along I thought it was about a video game. ;) Nice work there, > > Chad! > > Well, I get that image too when I'm not paying attention. For some > reason the whole "I was out in the field collecting strength > for my shield" makes me always think of a video game. So sue me! *grin* Whoa... Two other people who get the same image. Actually I get it the other way 'round, often when I'm playing a video game I get that line from "Misplaced" in my head. Just one question for you two: is the game in question "Civilization"? Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:08:17 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) "Jason A. Reiser" wrote: > Wow... and all along I thought it was about a video game. ;) Nice work there, > Chad! Well, I get that image too when I'm not paying attention. For some reason the whole "I was out in the field collecting strength for my shield" makes me always think of a video game. So sue me! *grin* - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:56:07 GMT From: trace@fruhead.com (Trace) Subject: Re: OT: DC area navigation - Trace makes a wrong turn into OTville On 24 Aug 1999 18:03:20 GMT, srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) wrote: >>Once again proving that *all* roads lead to OTville, > >What road? Where? WHERE DO I TURN?!?!?! My dear, you and I don't really have to turn. To the annoyance and/or amusement of this NG, we LIVE in OTville, on the corner of Maryland and Philadelphia Aves. But thanks for stopping by! - -- Trace trace@fruhead.com "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 20:08:11 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: Misplaced meaning to me (was Re: Ramshead and stuff) Josh Drury asked: > Just one question for you two: is the game in question "Civilization"? It is for me. :) - -- would-be Emperor Lori, busy subverting the masses. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 20:11:40 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead dot com) Subject: Re: An OT FAQ comment Chad M. said: >I asked this exact question on the newsgroup yesterday and got >no responses. I'll consider this one response in favor of posting >the URL once a month *grin* You didn't get responses because we're still cogitating over The Wonder In Four Parts. Patience, dear! - -- Lori, who thinks what she's gone over of the FAQ so far is ab-fab. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Aug 1999 20:14:09 GMT From: krazy924@aol.com (Kristin) Subject: Re: a new fruvous radio station??? ellen wrote: >this must be rectified. show that smartass that i'm right. 410-269-1031. even though I don't live in the DC area, or even in that region of the country. i felt that it was my duty as a fruvous fan to call them. so thats what i did. my parents won't be the wiser, i'll just say that i was calling my aunt (they don't know her number, they always ask me for it).. - -kristin its a fruvoully nice day in illinois. akris10@fruhead.com "All stressed out and no one to choke." "I'm mulitalented; I can talk and piss you off at the same time." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:25:10 GMT From: Kate Leahy Subject: Re: (No Subject) > but A.J.,I remember seeing Morphee eons ago during > the "Bargainville" tour. > andi AJ was only referring to what he had *heard* . . . I believe he noted that they probably played Morphee during the Bargainville tour - he just wasn't there for it. ~~Kate === Kate Leahy Student, Live Music Addict, Queen of Randomized Knowledge kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com "Record labels often like good, clean, wholesome band members who thank Jesus in their liner notes. It also helps if you can dance." --Josh Drury __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:03:44 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: New Frudegreen In article <19990824082114.28254.00002286@ng-ci1.aol.com>, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: > Dana said she thought the lyrics to "Lazy Boy" were: "I take calls in > the bathtub, it's cellulite" ... the first handful of times i heard "half as much" live, i thought it started "melt down..." peace, ellen *************************************************** Once there was a way to get back home... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:43:28 GMT From: Marie-Claude Subject: Re: New Frudegreen > > Dana said she thought the lyrics to "Lazy Boy" were: "I take calls in > > the bathtub, it's cellulite" ... > > the first handful of times i heard "half as much" live, i thought it > started "melt down..." I'll see that, and I'll raise you. I swear to god Jian says "ribbit" on the album version of Sad Girl. Have fun. ~MC Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:46:28 GMT From: Marie-Claude Subject: Re: MC and Kath's bad week > < bitch!>> > > LoLoL so that's why so many people at my place of employment are rude to me > in the morning! (I work at Manhattan Bagel). LoL. i'm sorry that you had > a terrible week. But things will get better. :) Promise. Maggie Hey, who said we were having a terrible week? :) ~MC Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #741 ********************************************