From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #714 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, August 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 714 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Downsizing Applied in Life ["Novac" ] Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@ql] Re: Review: The Point Cafe, 8/18/99 WARNING: Long [Donna Hunt ] Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? [Josh Drury ] Re: weird FR-related dreams [~jen <~jen@fruhead.com>] Re: Fruhead.com nearing 500... [Josh Woodward ] Re: Im a Troll [vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Im a Troll [vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin)] Re: OT: SNMNMNM album info! [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (star shaped)] Fruhead Ettiquette (was Bar Concerts) [Melanie ] Thornhill contraversy waiting to happen ["Ken Ream" ] OT Re: re:american rabbit ["Lori Young" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:33:57 -0400 From: "Novac" Subject: Downsizing Applied in Life This will be my "theme song" off of Thornhill for at least a week, since my boss mentioned the word "downsizing" to me in a personal meeting on Monday. I asked him when he wanted me to take off...2 weeks, end of week, tomorrow...he said "uhh, now." - --Novac PS: Got a job? ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 19:24:24 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? I am not a youngin'!! It was bad before OC'98, but they just made things that much worse. The MEC/North Face thing?? Those yellow jackets that everyone who is too cool to follow the Queen's jacket trend got to be original? And Kate... well, you're in Maryland, I've driven through Maryland, and I go to Queen's. Therefore, but extension, you have everything to do with the conversation! :) Like my logic?? :) Veronica (Queen's is one big freakin' tradition, isn't it? Cha Gheill!!) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:38:05 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: Review: The Point Cafe, 8/18/99 WARNING: Long Kate Leahy wrote: > I'll warn you again: this is really, really long :). Yes, but I love that. :) > I *am* (unlike Lisa :) very details oriented, so I > figured I’d fill in some of the blanks. Thank You so much Katie! I love it when you write your little fruvous novellas. :) Always takes me right there, and makes me sad I missed it. [but that's the point, isn't it?] ;) ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:41:38 GMT From: CLeast18@aol.com Subject: Re: weird FR-related dreams ohh my gosh speaking about dreams!!! lol this is a weird one.....if your reading this Jian sorry...its just a dream....ok....well i was stadning on the street & i see this guy ... with a can full of change, shaking it.....i went up to him & he said can you help me? im poor...& IT WAS JIAN!! LOL....haha....it was so weird i woke up laughing....he didnt have a shirt on. now u people must think im crazy! i have the weirdest dreams! ~Michala ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:10:40 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Downsizing Applied in Life Novac wrote: > This will be my "theme song" off of Thornhill for at least a week, since my > boss mentioned the word "downsizing" to me in a personal meeting on Monday. > I asked him when he wanted me to take off...2 weeks, end of week, > tomorrow...he said "uhh, now." > --Novac > PS: Got a job? Two questions: 1) is that legal? 'Round here, at least, if you've worked some minimum number of hours (500 or something like that), they *must* give you 2 weeks notice, or at least two weeks pay. Before that, though, there's no obligation from either party to give notice. 2) You didn't choose as your theme "I Love My Boss"? Anyway, good luck in your search for employment. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:39:03 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? Gruneberg Veronica J wrote: > The MEC/North Face thing?? Those yellow jackets that everyone who is too > cool to follow the Queen's jacket trend got to be original? Ah, yes. That happened here too. At one point I thought they had discontinued all jackets in colours other than yellow with black trim. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:36:32 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? Revell Sara E wrote: > Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote: As it happens, I was talking to a friend from high school who goes to Queens who happens to be one of the trend averters, and she mentioned that these trends are so prevalent that you'll stand out if you wear anything different (e.g. she'll see people out of classroom situations, and they'll recognise her as "the one who wears orange" or some such tripe). 'Zis true? Also, can you explain the concept of "tricolour"? Keep on fightin' the power, Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 20:42:31 GMT From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? Josh Drury asked a silly question: : Also, can you : explain the concept of "tricolour"? Hmmm...well the crazy people at Queen's decided that our school colours (red, blue, gold...or in other words, primary colours since gold is almost always represented by bright yellow) were just so cool, that they would be one color, hence tricolour. So, the term "putting on your tricolour" refers to *gasp* showing spirit and decking yourself out in red, blue & gold" and of course in frosh week, you can often hear: "What's Your Favourite Colour Frosh?" to which they respond "Tricolour" Sara, making no sense whatsoever I'm sure _______ The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:25:40 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: hehehe....let's see if this works, eh? Revell Sara E wrote: > Hmmm...well the crazy people at Queen's decided that our school colours > (red, blue, gold...or in other words, primary colours since gold is almost > always represented by bright yellow) were just so cool, that they would be > one color, hence tricolour. So, the term "putting on your tricolour" > refers to *gasp* showing spirit and decking yourself out in red, blue & > gold" and of course in frosh week, you can often hear: > "What's Your Favourite Colour Frosh?" to which they respond > "Tricolour" Ahhhh. Notwithstanding wht your school's "3 = 1" mentality must do for your mathematics and philosophy departments, do they also have you recite lines such as "four legs good, two legs bad!"? (or would it be "One tricolour good, three colours bad"?) I'd like to think that here at the U of M, when given the choice between school spirit and independent thought, students would choose independent thought, school spirit being extirpated from this area long ago. Unfortunately, many students here overwhelmingly choose "none of the above". Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:53:12 GMT From: jess_1@my-deja.com Subject: Im a Troll So why exactly do you call people trolls how did we get that name...and ahh whats spam. If someone would be nice enough to write to a measly troll and answer her stupid questions that would be nice. If your too imbarrassed to do it in front of everyone you can email me..Thanks Jessy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:33:06 GMT From: ~jen <~jen@fruhead.com> Subject: Re: Review: The Point Cafe, 8/18/99 WARNING: Long katiewow wrote a wonderful, long, detailed review that I thoroughly enjoyed, but I'm going to get annoyingly picky and quote: > This led to a discussion of how Bruce Springsteen is > quite possibly number one among musicians in terms of > achieving superstardom (i.e., selling out 15 nights at > Madison Square Garden) while still maintaining > artistic integrity. not MSG-- the Continental Airlines Arena, formerly the Brendan Byrne Arena, part of the Meadowlands. I only point it out cause MSG is in NYC, not NJ, which was kinda the point. ...And cause it was a hell of a pain trying to get those tix ;-P I assume this was their mistake, and not Kate's. But what do you expect? Silly Canadians ;-) ~jen - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:27:49 GMT From: Melanie Subject: RE: The Fruvous Radio Hour Thanks to Kate Leahy for posting this. I seem to miss Moxy Fruvous whenever they are interviewed on the radio, so it was great to read about it. You did a terrific job recapping; had me giggling quite a lot. I especially liked the part where Jian said that his fifteen year old girlfriend brings him to teen splatter movies, but he and her mother are horrified. And for all you out there ready to pounce: IT WAS JUST A JOKE! (probably) melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:46:23 GMT From: ~jen <~jen@fruhead.com> Subject: Re: weird FR-related dreams >>now u people must think im crazy!<< now? ;-) ~jen - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 21:55:57 GMT From: Josh Woodward Subject: Re: Fruhead.com nearing 500... Josh Drury wrote: : Just thought I'd point out that as of 10:45 am EDT, Fruhead.com has 479 : registered Fruheads. Not bad for just over a week. Let's see if we can : push it over 500 today! C'mon, I know you're out there... There are now officially 500 Fruheads registered on FHDC. :-) (There are a few people who aren't listed on the member directory). Wow! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@fruhead.com Web Site and Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:37:01 GMT From: vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Im a Troll I said: >Spam is generally unsolicited business advertisement on a newsgroup >where it doesn't belong. But it could be an intentionally negatively >provocative or insulting post by a troll. I should've also mentioned that spam, when it's a business advertisement, is usually cross-posted to all the newsgroups the poster can get to at the moment. Really annoying if you're reading more than one. - -v Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "Great, I'm a landmark now." -FatherO ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:35:11 GMT From: vika@fruhead.com (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Im a Troll jess_1@my-deja.com delighted us with: >So why exactly do you call people trolls how did we get that name...and >ahh whats spam. If someone would be nice enough to write to a measly >troll and answer her stupid questions that would be nice. If your too >imbarrassed to do it in front of everyone you can email me..Thanks >Jessy Jessy- A troll, as I understand it, is someone who posts intentionally negatively provocative or flaming (read: insulting) posts to a newsgroup. And/or does it repeatedly. Spam is generally unsolicited business advertisement on a newsgroup where it doesn't belong. But it could be an intentionally negatively provocative or insulting post by a troll. Your questions are not stupid. :) Why would I be *E*mbarrassed to "do it" in front of everyone? - -v Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "Great, I'm a landmark now." -FatherO ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 23:23:46 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (star shaped) Subject: Re: OT: SNMNMNM album info! >SNMNMNM is >a ska/punk type band that can only be described (IMHO) >as what Fruvous would sound like if they were ska. "ska/punk"? really? ..hmm.. i prefer "geek rock," like they say. ;) i generally hate (in other words: have yet to hear a band i like in ..) the "ska/punk"... "genre".. but i love snmnmnm. :) >For those of you >living in the Rochester area it is also available at >the Record Archive for $12.99. Go check em out!!!! i believe it's availiable at other places too, like lakeshore and stuff. not sure. maybe not. but i did see it at the rec. archive, in the "local" section. still gotta get me that cd... i just have their demo cd so far... ooh ooh, and seamus is a great guy! yay! sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org http://members.aol.com/limezinger "...each month i'd feel my body become fertile and i'd say, 'no, i choose not to have a baby. oh! rent's due.' " ~dave, kids in the hall ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:17:02 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Fruhead Ettiquette (was Bar Concerts) Tom Fazzio wrote: >she accused him of lying and then proceeded to yell at him for >being tall and standing in front of her because she wanted to >enjoy the show but now she couldn't. Keep in mind that the >whole time she was SCREAMING right in his face. Clearly the woman was not a Fruhead, a Frufan perhaps, but it's not the same thing. A true Fruhead would NEVER yell at someone attending a concert for fear of alienating a Fruvirgin. Fruheads are basically quite polite, but not pushovers. Therefore, a Fruhead might point out violations of concert ettiquette such as a) cutting in line, b) trying to elbow one's way in front of people who had waited HOURS to stake out that spot close to stage Murray or Dave, or c) singing too loudly near a taper. And a Fruhead would never join a group of people chanting to hear one more song after the second encore and the grassroots speech. Am I right? I have just frightened myself with this posting. I think I need a new hobby. melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:17:35 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Clothing trends In article <7peprd$30s$1@knot.queensu.ca>, 4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca says... > Hey everyone can jump on board and > tell us their worst/favourite trends (or I could simply point out how very > very cool the FruBoys clothing is and therefore make this post on-topic) All right, I'll take you up on that! Allow me to say here that the new "one-size" t-shirts are the coolest unisex clothing item that the band has offered thus far. Someone must have heeded my plea for t-shirts that don't bind around the chest or strangle the neck, 'cause that's exactly what we got. I can't wait to pick up another one in a different color (probably next month on the midwest tour). On behalf of all the full-figured gals and everyone else who just can't quite wear those cute little tank tops, I thank the person who ordered these shirts. And as far as the clothing worn by the band themselves...I just love Mike's pointy shoes! Not enough people wear pointy shoes these days. I'm serious. I hope Mike can help bring them back as a trend. k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: 18 Aug 1999 23:58:00 GMT From: sugarfly26@aol.com (SugarFly26) Subject: snarky?? (is that the word?) i keep seeing this...confused...someone, whats snarky mean? - -------> Ln :o) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:08:16 GMT From: Melanie Subject: Geeks (was Are Vegetarians. . . etc.) First I learn that Fruheads are geeks (see June 10 Ann Arbor News article in FDC and various ng postings in July), and have to wonder whether in fact I am a geek and whether I want to be a geek. Then I return from vacation and read postings about counting in base 2 and realize, ohm'god!, I know how to count in base 2 on my fingers. I AM A GEEK!!! But the bixexual pedophiliac nympho thing must be latent; it hasn't yet emerged. And just when do you guys have those orgies, before or after the concerts.? Or do you have them during dry spells when there are no concerts nearby or to cheer yourselves up because your local radio station doesn't play Moxy Fruvous? And how does one learn the secret handshake? melanie "You know what you are Gonzo? Distinct!" Muppets from Space ------------------------------ Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:28:58 GMT From: sugarfly26@aol.com (SugarFly26) Subject: Re: american rabbit >who had a Strawberry >Shortcake doll.. i still have one...and i have like 2 episodes on tape...hm...im getting an urge to go dig through my basement and find all me and my brothers (oops, bad english!) old games and toys and stuff. like rock em sock em robots...remeber those? there was one game i dont remember the name of, but it had these little balls and you put them over these air shooting vent things that moved and there were all these hoops. and you regulated the flow of the air so that the ball would go lower or higher and you had to get it through the different leveled hoops without hitting them...that ones in my basement somewhere. how about atari? :) - ----------> Ln ------------------------------ Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:21:26 GMT From: sugarfly26@aol.com (SugarFly26) Subject: Re: disillusioned? heyas...yes, i agree with that...like all of it. friends obviously dont strictly talk about one thing all the time. i just wasnt in a very good mood that night and i was getting easily annoyed by things that normally wouldnt annoy me. i have no intentions of leaving the newsgroup, and früheads (or frügeeks, früpeople, or whatever else you want to call them) are awesome. :) i cant wait til theyre back around my area (i need to be able to drive so i can go to further concerts...) maybe ill get to meet some of you. i may have already, who knows...anyone go to the concert halloween night at the ironhorse in north hampton this past october? i was there... :) celebrisius. be smiley! :o) - -------------> Ln and off topic....anyone got a webpage, früvous or non, that i could check out? muchas gracias. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:26:51 -0500 From: ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada) Subject: Re: jian is a good guy In article , happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) wrote: > I must also mention that I've seen Murray do the same on occasion, and I > think he's wonderful for it too. I hope Murray's not mad at me for > pointing a 10-year-old fan in his direction before the Ocean City show, > when he probably wanted to be left alone - I just knew how much she > really wanted to meet him. Oh, PLEASE, tell me that this was the fabulous Hillary, who I talked with at length before, during, and after the show! She was so devoted to Murray, and spent the later part of the evening describing her conversation with him in detail (right down to her estimation of his eyebrow measurements...lol!). I had a great time talking to this girl and hope she's the one you mean. :D - -kimberly - -trapped in a ten-year-old brain ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:20:27 -0500 From: ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada) Subject: Re: E-Bay (was Re: C Album SUGGESTIONS (was Re: C Album Predictions . . .) In article <37baae3e.7897433@news3.ibm.net>, vika@fruhead.com wrote: > As for the indignation over selling stuff like this on e-bay - well, > it's not hurting the guys' merch sales, so I guess it's alright. I > wouldn't personally bid on it, but they can try to sell it. I admit I laughed at the "Photo of Band Taken Outside HOTEL!" item on eBay, but I can't be entirely against eBay stuff altogether. I've picked up some stuff there that I wouldn't normally have a chance in hell of procuring, I won't bid against people whose email addresses I recognize (provided they bid first...I'm usually pretty fast with the bids, though), and I'd never buy any Fruvous stuff on eBay that could be picked up elsewhere. I paid Jude for my No-Mega, thank goodness. :D It IS a cool resource. Right now there's an ultra-cool CD, the WCBE "3...2...1...It's Alive! From Studio A" CD, which I never heard of before I noticed the Fruvous name on the track list during a previous auction. It contains a great live version of BJ Don't Cry, but more importantly it led me to the WCBE web site (wcbe.org) where I found out how to contribute to this cool-looking, member-funded station. I try to track down the causes promoted by the producers of such CDs and send in a belated contribution, so it's not total greediness on my part. If you've read this far through my rambling, go check out that WCBE CD and grab it while it's at $5.00 or so and then decide for yourself whether this type of collection is worth your support. I'm betting it is. - -kimberly - -slave to her collections ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:47:39 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: disillusioned? In article <19990818202126.23134.00000437@ng-fk1.aol.com>, sugarfly26@aol.com says... > and off topic....anyone got a webpage, früvous or non, that i could check out? > muchas gracias. How about http://www.waitingforbob.com ? That's a webpage. Check it out. k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:55:31 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: jian is a good guy In article , ksucy@nospam.eznet.net says... > > I hope Murray's not mad at me for > > pointing a 10-year-old fan in his direction... > Oh, PLEASE, tell me that this was the fabulous Hillary, who I talked with > at length before, during, and after the show! She was so devoted to > Murray, and spent the later part of the evening describing her conversation > with him in detail (right down to her estimation of his eyebrow > measurements...lol!). I had a great time talking to this girl and hope > she's the one you mean. :D It was indeed the fabulous Hillary. I spotted Murray trying to enjoy a slice of pizza in peace, and then saw Hillary's dad a couple of stores down...I asked where his daughter was, dragged her out of the store, pointed her at him and quickly made my escape. Once again, I really want to apologize to Murray for inappropriately interrupting his dinner. But I do hope it made Hillary's day. k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:03:28 GMT From: Carol Bennett Subject: Re: snarky?? (is that the word?) SugarFly26 wrote: > > i keep seeing this...confused...someone, whats snarky mean? Oh, woe is me... yet another poor deprived soul who knows not that most wonderful of words, snarky. "snarky. adj. Slang. showing annoyance in a sarcastic and snappish way." _Gage Canadian Dictionary_. 1983 ed. Carol - -- Carol Bennett, Library Goddess Gracious Hostess (eep!), Callahanicon 2000 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:47:27 -0400 From: "Ken Ream" Subject: Thornhill contraversy waiting to happen How long do you think it will be before some moron with a media outlet gets a hold of the Thornhill lyrics and takes these lines totally out of context? "Maybe the suburbs are just far too antiseptic. Kids need some splatter splatter messing up the place." Of course they'll notice those two dots floating over the first u in fruvous and decide MF is some crazed speed metal goth punk band without ever listening to them and say the song, based on those lines promotes Columbine-type violence. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:41:43 -0500 From: "Lori Young" Subject: OT Re: re:american rabbit andi andrzejewski wrote in message ... >Mattheu wrote: >> okay, i got a question...i know im not insane. american rabbit. noneof my >> friends or family remember this one. there was this rabbit and herollerskated >> and hed turn from a white rabbit to a red white and blue one..he onlymade like >> one short movie i think. he saved his family from a falling rockduring a >> picnic or something. i know im not imagining this. anyone? >i don't personally remember this show, but when my favourite aunt died and i inherited all of her crafting materials their was a counted cross-stitch >pattern of this creature! andi I know this one! I've been a fan of the artist since the 70s. The cartoon titled, "American Rabbit" is by Stewart Moskowitz. He is famous for his drawings of animals in his "Chewy Nougats" series. You've probably seen his "Chocolate Moose" or "Patchwork Cow" which I have a copy of hanging in my bathroom. (Stop by and I'll let you look at it in all its faded glory! I should really look into replacing it.) Here's Moskowitz's site: http://www.mrm.gol.com/bio.htm I've never seen the cartoon that was mentioned, but I did find something about it on web: http://www.videoflicks.com/VF/00/000411.HTM So, see...it wasn't a pixie stick overdose-induced dream after all... Lori Young POLKA 2000!!! http://brave.com/bo/ Lori@brave.com ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #714 ********************************************