From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #700 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, August 14 1999 Volume 03 : Number 700 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: southstreet revew (long) [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] southstreet revew (long) [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Killer Tents ["Tim Deegan" ] bass-drum-clothings ["Tim Deegan" ] Re: Initial Thoughts on Thornhill [dstbunnny@aol.com (DstBunnny)] Re: Moxy in the Rochester D&C [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: OT: the language of sesame [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: The Balad of My Poor Generation ["Valerie Jones" ] Re: OT: the language of sesame [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: southstreet revew (long) [Leareth ] Winnipeg Show ["Grant Partridge" ] Re: bass-drum-clothings [Donna Hunt ] Thornhill: Donna's Offical Review. :) [Donna Hunt ] Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! [gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash)] Re: Sad today (again) [jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure)] Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! [Ofer Inbar ] Am I crazy? [Amy ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 14 Aug 1999 17:56:41 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: southstreet revew (long) oh, one last thing i forgot to note...murry was having an amazing day. i dont considermyself a murry's person, but he blew me away last night. wow. two (maybe a third) thumbs up to murrman who kicked that concerts ass. smiles genna ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 17:53:45 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: southstreet revew (long) well, now that was a day to remember. the afternoon began with meating some friends at the train station, and saying goodbye to another. ::sniffle:: one tough goodbye...(my best friend had been staying w/ me for the week on a trip from ohio which he couldnt aford to take...and the goodbye at the trainstation will have to last me about another 10 years before we meet again...sigh...ok...enough lementing...on with the review) the ride to the city was fairly eventless. when we got there, we took bets on the rain...which soon started to fall...we didnt melt though, and it felt good to cut the humididity. we found the peir w/o a problem, and saw tobey and cal and some unidentified people (one who looked about 14) setting up the stage. at which point i realized i had a botu 2 pics left on my camara, so i went and bought some film. came back...listened to the sound check (and sang along...to which (i think) dave relplied "easy guys...i'ts sound check..."sigh...the excitement builds. big "hi's" to mocksie and friends and Jen who proved to me yet again that the fruhead community is goofy, comfy and warm. mocksie noticed something satin and red sitting in the base drum, she asked jian "is that underwear" to which he replied "but of course" ...sigh...too bad it never came out during the set....... the opener (who's name escapes me at the moment) didnt please me too much. his guitar skills rivaled any...but his songwriting could use a swift kick in the ass. i think mokst ofus really just wanted to get him off...i feel bad though...he wasnt too bad. after about an hour of him fruvous setup began, the lads came out to a thunderous applause. jian entertained himself by plaing with the volume of audience cheering. then gave us a sincere sounding appollogy for "being a middle easern man" explaining that the humidity would give him a fro. Murry introd the band as "the band who thinks black and baby blue go together" and thus they began. Half As Much You Can't Be Too Careful Disco Video Bargainville - this was adorable...with murry's dancing... Lazy Boy When She Talks Pisco Bandito Boo Time Splatter Splatter Michigan Militia Johnny Saucep'n I Will Hold On *swoon* My Poor Generation-dave looks anoyed at murry's intro My Baby Loves A Bunch of Authors - "my crusifiction" Get In The Car Psycho Killer-teaser beginning...swispers first few lines...screams "DONT TOUCH ME" E: King of Spain (tease)-hysterical: dave on accordian...completely weird. "peking of spain" Drinking Song-lovely closer banterful moments: murry "is it humid in here or am i just wearing a poliester blend i shouldnt be" "that's not a blend" "a blend of polyester and OTHER polyester" jian : discusses "new york by boat" a brochour. talks about the "intra new-york rivalry" of the mets and yankee's (which note: does not really exist") contsant reference to the "peking" a boat docked at the seeport. ex: jian "i dont know...were just not cutting it. Limp bizkit can bring down woodstock and we cant even sink the peking. weve gone through seven songs and no one has sunk the peking" jian"we sould call it the bejing. this is politically incorrect" murry"the peking of spain" jian notices a crowd has gathered on the balcony jian:"this looks like a seen from lesMis" lads start singing "doyou hear the people sing" mike:"cant your making love to one already dead....thats called necrophilia you sick and crazy bastard" after KOS teaser mike still has no working guitar...still needs stringing and tuning. jian admits to killing time...says this calls for Dr. zavago (sp) dave plays Lara's theme on accordian. (note: jians intellect never ceases to impress me.) it was a great show i only regret missing chatting with the lads after the show...my friends made plans to meet some family for dinner, and forgot to figure in the opener in they're time...they were waiting at the restaurant for over an hour...oooops. ok, i'm done now...genna's babbly review has come to an end smiles genna (who's still swooning...and still trying to figure out a way to get to ocean city) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:32:11 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: Killer Tents LoL that's gggggggreat! <> Maggie "Befriend the puffins... before the puffins attack!" -- Jian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:36:53 -0400 From: "Tim Deegan" Subject: bass-drum-clothings <> hey! i noticed clothes in the bass drum, too! it wasn't underwear (is that a good or bad thing?) but it looked like one of Jian's multiple orange shirts and a pair of black pants. I was a bit confuzzled. Hey Jian, if you happen to be reading this, buy another suitcase Hun, it won't kill ya. ;) Maggie "Mozart could do it! What the f*ck is *your* problem?!" -- Mike ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 18:55:39 GMT From: dstbunnny@aol.com (DstBunnny) Subject: Re: Initial Thoughts on Thornhill Chad wrote: >Okay, I'm still in Hate Letter and Dave sings some of Half as Much in >the background and I just have to smile and wonder what the heck else >is going on in the background. You know I'm just waiting for someone a >little crazier than me to crank it up, pan all the way to the left, and >start decipher what's being said in the background. (All righty, this'll be one big run-on sentence:) Chris already mentioned that most of it's up on FDC, anyhoo... my stereo's pretty plain, basically plays the music and that's it, but if you wanna be able to hear the background better, here's what I do: put the CD in your player, and only plug the headphones halfway in. It usually makes the lead vocal very quiet and a little echoey, and some of the background parts are clearer. The effect varies a bit for different headphones, but during Hate Letter, I get the "Totally rockin'.." part in stereo, among other things. Listening to music like this I usually find at least one thing I'd been missing before... or, if nothing else, a different perspective of the song. But hey, for all I know there's an option on your more elaborate stereos that does the exact same thing as I've described, and this post is irrelevent. Ah, well. Viva naivete! Christine P.S. Be forewarned: another result of listening with the headphones like that is that the bass is almost always just barely audible, if at all. ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 19:12:02 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: Moxy in the Rochester D&C from the article Those songs include My Baby Loves a Whole Bunch of Authors, which laments what excessive reading can do to a relationship, hmmm..."whole bunch of authors"? that just WOULDNT fit into the melody...dang... ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 19:07:34 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: OT: the language of sesame >By the way, the American/Israeli crossover (featuring Itzhak Perlman!) >was called "Shalom Sesame". We saw that in school. > yeah, i know, i corrected myself in a later post. there were LOTS of episodes though (only one i think with perlman) they showed 'em to us in school too...Solomon Schecter...bla... smiles genna PS where in isreal are you from? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 19:49:04 GMT From: "Valerie Jones" Subject: Re: The Balad of My Poor Generation > > what i?d change if i could: on the album version -- the rattlesnakey > > noises . . . > I'm with Ellen, the percussion is interesting but it's too loud if > you're listening on headphones or good speakers. On lousy speakers it's > not so bad . . . from the first time i heard it live, MPG became my favorite new song. when i heard the CD version i was like "what is up with that noise?" maybe it's even more noticeable to folks who heard it live or on a concert tape beforehand and didn't expect it? if you don't care for it, you can always "fix" it by tuning out the left channel during that song ... voila, all gone! ~v~ ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 20:12:49 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: OT: the language of sesame Genna wrote ... <> The one in Queens? My best friend (when I was in high school) went there! QL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:25:11 -0400 From: Leareth Subject: Re: southstreet revew (long) ShadoeMe wrote: [snip beautifulness] > > genna (who's still swooning...and still trying to figure out a way to get to > ocean city) Damn my humidity-caused-headaches-something-worse-than-migraines. ;-; - -- Dani is a sad girl today. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:26:24 -0500 From: "Grant Partridge" Subject: Winnipeg Show Is anyone on this NG going to be at the Winnipeg show? Just checkin' for personal reference. - -Grant P.S. If "the guys" or "one of the guys" is reading this, can you play River Valley on that show? that song really makes me smile. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:16:14 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: bass-drum-clothings > hey! i noticed clothes in the bass drum, too! You know, I don't want to burst anybody's bubble here, but the clothing (and yes, there's plenty of underwear) has been hanging around in the bass drum for a long time. :) A lot of people throw material (towels, sheets, etc.) into their bass drums to change the sound a little (So it sounds less Marching Band on the 50 yard line) :) Jian's is just more eclectic. ;) ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:12:33 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Thornhill: Donna's Offical Review. :) Greetings, newsgroupers. So, I spend 11 hrs in my car returning from Boston (via Rochester, and yes, soon I'll be back to teaching and I won't be wandering the continent anymore) and come home to find people in my bed and by shower backed up. So since my first two choices were obviously out, I sat down and skimmed through 300 messages. I find, to my surprise, that the response to Thornhill is less than ecstatic, and I'm disappointed in you. :) So, to help out poor Chad, who is defending it voraciously, I'll posting my review. Warnings and Disclaimers: 1.) This is Long. Having my silly degrees in both English and Music I'm obviously going to be way into details and describing them. 2.) I love this album. If you don't want to read about someone loving the album, move on now. 3.) This *is* one of those "Track by Track" reviews. Move on if you don't want to deal. 4.) I am awfully tired. I don't promise to be completely coherent. 5.) I do have a brief, superficial 'super-quickie' sum-up at the end, for all of you who used those Cliff's Notes in high school and/or college. 6.) I know a lot about music, but I'm not a music technician, and I'm probably going to be making up my own language about certain effects. Please Deal. If you're dying to educate me on the proper lingo, you can email me (donna@fruhead.com). Thanks. First off, I'd like to say that I think Chris O'Malley has done a terrific job at transcribing what's happening on Thornhill onto the lyrics section of FDC. Wonderful. I recommend you check it out. I went there after doing my dissection, and was joyful and relieved that someone was at least as interested in the layers and things as I am. :) So Thornhill happens to be my favorite album from my favorite band... right now. I'm not positive it will stay that way, ask me in a year if I've gone back to Wood. However, when Moon came out, Wood was still my favorite album. [not that Moon doesn't have some of my favorite songs on it, but as an album, it has failings in the way it was put together, to my ears.] But right now, I think it's the best thing they've put out... as an album. (Are we still using the word 'album'? Should I say 'disc'? Or, 'CD'?) One of the things I think is so great about this album is that more than any other Fruvous album to date, I really think it captures some of the magic that happens when we see them live. I'm not one of those who says they're not any good on CD and you have to see them live [although I'm a live show junkie, myself] but what they do live is usually so different that what was on the album... i.e., Sahara, Message, It's too Cold, and most recently obviously Video Bargainville. :) This album carries some of the indefinable stuff that makes a frushow so incredible. Anyway, I know there was some discussion here about "Concept" albums and such, especially with the debate about Pisco or Follow the Road (etc.) being on this one or not. I'm not sure what a technical definition of 'Concept Album' is, but I think this might be one. :) What I mean by that is: the sound of the album is pretty consistent. It flows really well, it's put together wonderfully. Yes, it's different than other Fruvous albums. But they're all different. This album feels mature to me. They had a long time to put this one together, they had a lot of material to choose from, they had a lot of decisions to make--and I think it all came together beautifully. Here we go: HALF AS MUCH I think this is a great track to put first. It's upbeat at a nice tempo (not too fast), and it is consistent with the "sound" of the rest of the album. I really love the verses with the split lyrics and split voices, Mike with Murray, Jian and Dave following, I think it's very effective, very successful. The harmonies are very tight, and in 4-part, which is very Fruvous. I think the misc. percussion really helps give it the light-hearted feel. My favorite line: "I never realized that I would need the joys and secrets of your eyes." SAD GIRL When Fruvous first started to play this one, I wasn't into it. I didn't like it all that much. However, it fits so well into the album, it follows Half as Much so well, that now I really, really like it. This is one of the songs that I can't get over how "Beatlesesque" it is. I hear reminiscences of half a dozen Beatles songs, which I won't get into. I really like the Piano in the beginning. I like the strings in the background--if they're synthesized, it's an incredibly good synthesizer! If they're not, who's playing them? In the background of the bridge, I start to hear this cool, but un-identifiable (to me) sound... that's somewhat guitary/keyboardy/chimes-like and distorted. I like it. Don't know what it is, but I like it. The fade-out is incredibly effective. With the voices echoing each other, in harmony, with all the layers, it's excellent. I'm always impressed with HOW MUCH sound the four guys can produce with just their voices, weaving in and out of the other voices--it's incredible. Another Fruvous reference where that impresses me is the end of Laika (esp live) with the whole "Hail to the Chief" outro. My favorite lines: "Depression is Romantic"--while the words aren't really anything special, I like the way Jian wraps his mouth around them. Another lyric that I like is how "Mad world" turns into "Man's World" at the end. I've always dug that. YOU CAN'T BE TOO CAREFUL You have to laugh, because if you're trying to be geeky and figure out what the heck they're babbling about before this song, suddenly you get your ear blown off with the first line. :) I dunno anybody who would do that, though. ;) I'm a big fan of harmonica. This is a great wailin' harmonica song. [Is it in Fly, where there's a harmonica "solo" that starts with just one note for a long time?] This is a vocally-driven song, with Dave settling into the lower part of his voice very nicely. He moves his mouth over the words in this song nicely as well. More misc. percussion, the light cymbals add a lot. My favorite lines: "There's always teachin' English in Tokyo"--that line just cracks me up, because every time I'm looking for a job, my mother bring that up. :) I also like how Dave goes "Please Don't..." (be too careful) on the outro. I WILL HOLD ON It's nice the way this song starts with just Jian and the guitar. Dave just sneaks in with the harmony at "You know that it's true." I love the tambourine part, throughout. I think the bass line on this song is the best on the album. I love it. Especially underneath "And if that's not what you're used to," but even just the repeated notes underneath "You know that it's true..." I think the song would be sappier w/o the kickass bass line. Oh, and speaking of bass, there's a bowed String Bass part, just a tiny one, right at the end. (Real? I think so, but, Synth?) I think the drums on the last verse are effective: where Jian's singing alone again and then brings everyone in at "I'll hold the hope..." Jian finishing alone is nice, I wish he was a little bit more in his head voice for it, a little bit closer to the voice he uses for Downsizing. The background vocals on the Chorus really make it sound very full and lush. It sounds similar to the 'chorus' button on keyboards. :) Lyrics: The line "I'll hold you're breath if that won't make you blue" is very similar to Fly's "The took off their shoes and bared their souls" with the word-play, and I'm not a big fan of these two instances of word play. I think they're a little flippant, considering the songs they're in. My favorite line: "I'll hold off choice til you know what to do" because of all the things this guy would do, that's the only one I could really use. :) EARTHQUAKES Right now, this is my favorite song on the album. I saw it live 3 (?) times before they decided to put it away for awhile, and I loved it then, and I'm so happy to have it here in my house where I can listen to it whenever I want. There's nothing I don't like in this song. Dave's voice on this one is so great, he's right in the sweet spot in his voice. Fabulous. I like how Dave sings Punctual. It's like "Punn-ool" I think there is more misc. percussion in this song than any other song ever. :) Everybody's just pounding on stuff! It's great! And of course, those "Jack and Diane" style Hand Claps. There's a violin part in this song. Most of it is playing only 3 notes. Is this one of the guys? I'd say that the background vocals make this song, except I could say that about *everything*. Specific favorites are the "badoobedowah"; and Everyone trying to sing down low on "There hasn't been a damn thing on"; then whatever everyone is saying in the back of "My Get up and Go is all gone"--I love it! I don't know what the heck they're saying, but I love it! And of course, while Dave's singing "Losing my powers" Murray's (Mike's?) got "oh, oh, oh" really low. :) And Double (String) Bass! Yes! [well, I mean, it's not bassoon or anything... but...] :) The background chatter adds a lot to the fun feel of this song. It sounds kinda "busky" :) if you ask me. I mean, it could totally be a song where you could see these people sitting on steps somewhere, pounding on shit, belting out this song. :) WHEN SHE TALKS It's a big shock to go from Earthquakes into WST. It's the rockiest transition on the disc. Jian's voice is nice and relaxed, not forced at all--am I the only one who hears this like, "Jian-bot" voice? He's doubled over himself or some such. I really like it, it's kinda fascinating that way. Probably because I keep saying "Can't you hear that?" :) I really like the background vocals on "Always in Command" and "Lasting Memory." This seems a LOT slower than when they do it live. It's not bad slower, but I'm hung up on thinking that it's so much slower. There's nice electric guitar right before "When it's time I know..." Dave's harmony with Jian is... lovely. SPLATTER SPLATTER I can't believe anyone can listen to this song and think that Thornhill is way serious. Hello? And how can you not dance to this song? When I first heard this on the album, with Mike coming in with the funky megaphonelike thing from Michigan Militia, I just went "ooh" because it's so neat. It makes the way Mike pronounces this words even clearer. Again, I love the split vocals "This is the best movie" with Mike and Murray vs. Dave and Jian. The electric guitar sounds great, and the bass line fits nicely--it sounds like these horroreque movie soundtrack stuff. :) Near the end when they do the 7 Again's is great. Lyrics: I think everyone likes "She craves attention," and there's really not a way to use the word "Crave" subtlety. :) I really like "Suburbs are too antiseptic," and I love "Rhododendron Park" mostly because of the way Mike says it. The only complaint I have about this song is it always makes me want to say "Cha-cha-cha" at the end. :) INDEPENDENCE DAY This is a kinda slow song to be putting after Splatter, but it doesn't bother me, I think it works still. Part of that is because the acoustic guitar part is so incredible, Mike hits one chord and I'm paying 100% attention. Murray's voice is very... alone. It sounds like they recorded his voice on the solo stuff completely separately, in a small practice room all by himself... at 3 am. :) It sounds somehow "In front" of the instruments, except when everyone's singing harmony, and then he blends in completely. Murray's voice on this song is right in the middle of it's "heaviness" I think. What I mean is, it's not as heavy as it was on Wood, but not as light and in the head as when I've heard, say, Bittersweet live [or the "Love me, Love me" part in the Billy Jian Medley ;)]. All the guys know how to use their voices in different ways, but I think Murray's has come the farthest recently. I love the imagery in this song. I have this desire to totally dissect it like a silly English major, but I won't. :) But with the balloon lines, the trees, the whole scene of feeling separated during an extremely festive time... and it storms on Independence Day! everybody hates that. :) The vocals are very strong and full on the Bridge. I like the way "Genevieve, I do believe" works, but it reminds me (and this is going to sound more trite than I mean it to) of how convenient it is that they found a name (Tricia) to rhyme with Militia. I also like the way they fade out the ends of Murray's "ohs" at the end. My favorite line: "I stuck my hand into my coat, felt the letter you wrote." I'm not sure why I like it so much, but I do. DOWNSIZING Downsizing is long. I'm not complaining, but I don't remember it being this long when I heard it live once upon a time. I think a big reason I really like this song and it gets to me it because my own town is so very working class, incredibly blue-collar; the line "I won't tell my wife, I will work it out, things will be fine" has been said to me half a dozen times by friends and family--almost makes me break down. Musically, I really enjoy the subtle synth going on in the background. Jian has a lot of "voices." He can use his voice in so many ways (and like I said, so can the others... Mike's being the most versatile) and I'm always impressed when he takes his voice out of the chest and into the head and sings lightly in that tenor range. They work a little echo into his voice here too, which works really well. I really like the vocals on the chorus, where Jian alone leads in with "It's the message we" and the others come in on "send" and then the same thing with "Our relevance" and "pays." Very nice. Right before the last verse, there's a high note that I want to say is Mike, but it might actually be synth, but in either case, the same note is repeated in the electric guitar at "Understand." Line: "Someday they'll lose something worse, and then they'll understand." I don't feel that the narrator really believes it, but is just trying to be brave about it. Maybe it's me, maybe I just don't believe it. HATE LETTER This is another song that is so fun, I can't believe folks are worried that Fruvous has lost their sense of humor. I like how the intro and outro are just drums and bass. I think the bass line is perfect for the sound of this song. There's no better way to describe this song than "smooth." :) Dave's voice is very light (for him) on this song, but he's still right in the heart of his range. The "sound" of this song is deceiving, considering the context. It's like "Fell in Love" in that regard, where they both work beautifully, but they're not about what they "sound" like they're about. Ya gotta be payin' attention. :) I mean, I almost fell down walking through the kitchen when I first heard Dave calmly, lightly sing "I don't love you that much." [which reminds me of Dan Bern's "Jerusalem"--but they're not comparable in any other way] :) All right, so we're all aware that during this 'breakdown' section (Goin' to Murray's, Goin' to Mike's) all that silly Dave stuff is going on, but my favorite part of it are all the little Thornhill quotes floating in and out. :) I like how someone laughs in the background of the background--is it Mike? What's best about this section is even if you're not obsessing about what the heck they're saying it works beautifully musically. I mean, if my sister were to suddenly just pick up Thornhill for some reason and listen to this song, I don't think she'd even think to try and figure out what Dave was saying. :) It's a gift for those obsessed. I like the "Shoobewops" that float lightly in the background throughout as well. My favorite line: "Finally Final." What else can I say? Totally Wicked. Totally Cool. IF ONLY YOU KNEW I like all the misc. percussion again... I like how Jian's (I mean, I assume it's Jian) plays on the snare rim, I like the tambourine, and the hand claps during the bridge. This song sounds so natural, it sounds like it was so easy for Mike to write. (Maybe it was harder than heck, but he makes is sound so sweet) I can't figure out if there're two acoustic guitars, or one twelve-string, or if the guitar just sounds really big to me for some reason. The bass is very laid-back as well, helping it sound natural with almost an "Under the Boardwalk" feel. (well, an 'acoustic' Under the Boardwalk feel) I don't think that the background "Ahhhs" are necessary. I don't think they really take away from the song, but I think Mike would sound just fine all by himself; I don't know if they felt they needed the "Ahhs" to make is a Fruvous song, as opposed to a Mike Ford song. However, the harmony with Mike is nice... is that Jian? I love every word to this song, I think they all work perfectly with the melody. Such a sweet song. My favorite line: "Closed my eyes for an hour and a half." MY POOR GENERATION This song is so powerful for me that I have a hard time saying anything about it except "Wow." It hit me so hard live that I think I knew all the words by the third time I heard it. I like that there almost isn't a Chorus. And I like that the line before "My Poor Generation" changes throughout, (i.e., "Drowned in information" and "Lost in Union Station" etc.) Cool new drum. :) The only thing that worries me is that Dave's 'Whoooo' is almost out of tune, I worry about it in every live performance. :) I like that the guitar solo is low. This is another song where the lyrics are so strong, I like almost every word. It's just so powerful. My favorite lyrics change with every listen, but "airborne with nothing to land on" and the whole "Corporate raiders got to greedy in the 80's and bought up all the direction" always stand out for me. This is a perfect last song. MISC. CHATTER: I don't want to comment to much on this, but it's definitely a part of the album. It's another very Beatlesque thing to do, and I think it helps capture some of what makes fruvous Fruvous. It gives us a sneak peak at hearing them working things out together, and for those of us who enjoy the banter at shows almost as much as the music, it's a great bonus. I especially love the playing around with "Earthquakes" that we get after "Hate Letter," and I'm dying to know what Murray doesn't want in the chatter before "My Poor Generation." :) MY CLIFF'S NOTES REVIEW. I love this album. Mike wrote "Pop" songs, Jian wrote "Love" songs, Dave wrote "Cool" and "Powerful" songs, and Murray wrote the best song. It's a good thing. The only thing I want to know is, will Mr. Paul Murray ever hear this album? verbosely yours, donna ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 20:57:38 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (Gordon Nash) Subject: Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! > > >Thanks to the taping efforts of one of our own, here the the lyrics to >Killer Tents, as transcribed from the mainstage show. > >Soon to come on FDC - chords! Scott for you efforts I'm putting you for sainthood in the Church of Fru. Which performance was this a transcription of, the main stage or the Workshop? I wonder if they differed at all. Feanole aka DrWhoFru ------------------------------ Date: 14 Aug 1999 20:50:30 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: Sad today (again) Zack Widup (w9sz@prairienet.org) wrote: : : I stopped by Periscope Records today to pick up a copy of Thornhill and : they were closed! "Going Out Of Business"! : : Someone wake me up and tell me I've been having a nightmare. *sigh* First that whole fiasco with WEBX (which may not be over yet) and now this??? What's happening to that town since I left it? jordan - -- "Reincarnation works backward in time... People who 'remember' the past are all deluded -- the only ones who really remember past incarnations remember the future, and they become science fiction writers." -- The Illuminatus! Trilogy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:17:38 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Re: Lyrics: Beware the Killer Tents! Gordon Nash wrote: > Scott for you efforts I'm putting you for sainthood in the Church of Fru. > Which performance was this a transcription of, the main stage or the Workshop? > I wonder if they differed at all. They did differ, mainly because for the mainstage the band actually knew the song :) They must've written it down and rehearsed it or something. -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@polyamory.org -- WBRS Waltham 100.1 FM -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "Long live folk music, and this doomed festival!" -- moxy fruvous ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:58:45 +0100 From: Amy Subject: Am I crazy? After reading several posts reviewing the south street seaport show, I noticed that nobody included You Will Go to the Moon in the setlist. I could swear they sang it. Am I losing my mind? (I know that happens with age) Amy ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #700 ********************************************