From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #688 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, August 11 1999 Volume 03 : Number 688 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 18 AND OVER 94613 [iuf85@ygcsdf7d.com] Re: quill? [bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McNamee)] Re: Frumiles question! ["KatieWow" ] Re: All this future fruvous stuff ["Jill Hufnagel" ] The background of Hate Letter [chrisom@ibm.net (Chris O'Malley)] Re: Tapes N Stuvv [chrisom@ibm.net (Chris O'Malley)] Re: A modest proposal [bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McNamee)] Re: Thornhill I am very depressed. ["Neilbert" ] Re: Champaign Radio Days (was: it's a very sad day) [w9sz@prairienet.org ] Re: All this Future Fr?vous stuff [happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice)] Re: Thornhill Musings . . . [Christine K ] Re: Frumiles question! [hero93@aol.com (Hero93)] Indie Tape On Ebay [Shawn Taylor ] Original Indie Tape For Sale [Shawn Taylor ] Re: C Album Predictions . . . [hKath ] Re: Weighing In on Thornhill [ctyner@my-deja.com (Adam Tyner)] Re: A quick intro... [chad schrock ] Re: whine whine whine [chad schrock ] Re: The Hunt For The Orange Shirt [FruKid ] Re: C Album Predictions . . . [hKath ] Re: Thornhill Musings . . .Kat ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: Weighing In(kinda long) [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)] Thornhill reflections, et al. [SnarkiFru ] Re: Tapes N Stuvv [FruKid ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:55:34 -0600 From: iuf85@ygcsdf7d.com Subject: 18 AND OVER 94613 Free XXX: http://207.240.225.250 roxGR_:P ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:43:51 GMT From: bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McNamee) Subject: Re: quill? Way out here in the wilds of southwestern Ontario (Woodstock...), I just got my Quill today! Yaaay! ----------[ Brent McNamee - Woodstock, Ontario, CANADA ]------------ bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com | The answer to the Great (remove the NOSPAM. to mail me) | Question of Life, the Universe http://www.execulink.com/~brentmac/ | and Everything: 42 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:19:54 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Frumiles question! Chad Maloney wrote in message <37B1ACB2.A818A68@fruhead.com>... >Nope. That's why Tobey makes you put your name on the front of the >card before he stamps it. That wouldn't really be fair I'd think. > > - Chad *Nod* If we could do that, we'd have Frümile Pimps. And hired Frümile Sluts. Great for ticket sales, but bad for us :). ~~Kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@fruhead.com *********************************** "It's a long long road It's a big big world We are wise wise women We are giggling girls . . . " - --Ani DiFranco *********************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:59:55 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: All this future fruvous stuff Amy, Ross, Chad...You guys all couldn't have said it better. I think to often people start to think of Moxy as theirs and they aren't...like you said they are just a band and since they are such an awsome bad why would any of us want to hold them back...not that we'd be able to. Well I just wanted you to know that I agree and I wish the guys the greatest success. I mean it would suck if it came to the point where I could no longer photograph them because of venue size, but then again I'm growing too. So maybe by the time they get to that point I'll be the professional Photographer in the front row any how. I don't think we need to try to hold them back, but grow with them. Well I guess that enough has been said everything else has alrerady been said. **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:42:16 GMT From: chrisom@ibm.net (Chris O'Malley) Subject: The background of Hate Letter [Chad posted something about all the stuff one can hear in the background of Hate Letter, and wondering who will be nuts enough to decipher it] Well, With the help of Jason Reiser, most of the really-hard-to-hear stuff on Thornhill is on FDC now. This includes all the in-between songs banter bits, too. Actually, the lyrics aren't 100%, but they're pretty darned close. If you can help decipher the parts I couldn't discern, please let me know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris 'Father' O'Malley http://www.fruvous.com 'Tattoo Fru' webmaster@fruvous.com "I like being a pretzel with you..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:40:03 GMT From: chrisom@ibm.net (Chris O'Malley) Subject: Re: Tapes N Stuvv On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:55:32 GMT, FruKid wrote: >Sorry! I didn't know! I don't know trading protocol.. in fact I don't >know anything about it! Well, does anyone know the date so i can just >tape it myself? FruKid, Chad answered your question in his response. Please read what people write before asking the same question again. The date of the Conan appearance has not been set yet. Keep on eye on FDC for further details. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris 'Father' O'Malley http://www.fruvous.com 'Tattoo Fru' webmaster@fruvous.com "I like being a pretzel with you..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:46:21 GMT From: bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com (Brent McNamee) Subject: Re: A modest proposal On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:59:32 -0400, "KatieWow" wrote: >>marry him off > >Hmm . . . wasn't that tried with Murray at FrüCon I? I belive it was Jian >who attempted to make Murray a prize in the raffle :). Hmmm - kinda gives "Way to GO Murray" a whole new meaning! ----------[ Brent McNamee - Woodstock, Ontario, CANADA ]------------ bmcnamee@NOSPAM.yahoo.com | The answer to the Great (remove the NOSPAM. to mail me) | Question of Life, the Universe http://www.execulink.com/~brentmac/ | and Everything: 42 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:55:10 -0400 From: "Neilbert" Subject: Re: Thornhill I am very depressed. Picked mine up at Best Buy (shudder). You could even go a step lower and go to a mall record store. Preferably, tho, you'd go to an independent store and get it there. - -- - -neil neilliam@hotmail.com www.neilbert.com Ken V wrote in message news:TOms3.12995$W11.227973@wbnws01.ne.mediaone.net... > www.cdnow.com ...always open!!! > > -Ken > > wrote in message news:c96da801.24e34ad1@aol.com... > > Hello everyone! > > I am very sad today. I went to borders & Circut city & they > didnt > > have Thornhill :( WHERE CAN I GET IT?! > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:52:25 GMT From: w9sz@prairienet.org (Zack Widup) Subject: Re: Champaign Radio Days (was: it's a very sad day) In a previous article, merguez@aol.com (Merguez) says: >Zack and all, > > >When Moxy Fruvous started touring in the States in '94. Champaign was one of >the first cities to really embrace them. The guys at the Web fm played lots o' >fruvous. Moxy also did several in-station interviews for the web and for their >syndicated radio show (can't remeber the name right now.) > Thanks for all the info Michael! WEBX-FM has been back on the air since last Friday but with no commercials and no DJ's, just the occasional "You're surfing the Net there, cyber beach bunnies..." prerecorded announcements. They've been playing all the same music they always have - nonstop. I'm just waiting for some big change to happen (it would be great if it didn't but most radio stations in this country have to sell commercials to keep themselves going.) > >At the same time that Webx-fm was supporting the boys' early touring days, an >upstart record store Periscope was too. They did 2 in-stores there and was the >only place I knew of in the country that kept Wood & the B album in stock >during the dry days of no-distribution deal. Is Persicope still there? > Yes they are, and they still carry all of the Fruvous albums. I think the manager, Cody, is a big fan. Zack - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:09:36 -0600 From: happygirl@fruhead.com (Dorky Spice) Subject: Re: All this Future Fr?vous stuff In article , tsalyers@flatland.dimensional.com says... > The *real* Murray--the Andrew Ridgely of Moxy Fruvous... Yeah, as we all know, his only *real* contribution to the band is those puppy-dog eyes. k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 23:51:37 GMT From: Christine K Subject: Re: Thornhill Musings . . . srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead.com) wrote: *snip* > - -- Lori > who is a little freaked by the similarity of the opening chords of Downsizing > to those of Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds. I hear that as well as "Porpoise Song" by The Monkees (from the 'Head' soundtrack). Christine. - --Chrissy_K on irc ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* You know how you always see single shoes on the side of the road and always think "What kind of idiot loses a *shoe* right in the middle of nowhere??" Well, ask yourself no longer... ;P - MC ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 1999 00:26:01 GMT From: hero93@aol.com (Hero93) Subject: Re: Frumiles question! Speaking of Frumiles... Say you live in Los Angeles and - devoted Fruhead that you are - you have been to *every* *single* *show* the lads have done in Los Angeles. Um... that'd be two. This means I'll probably get three (hundred) Frumiles when they come here again in November (late October?), and that'll be it, right? 'Cause they expire in January..? What can I get for 300 again? - -L.A. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:44:50 -0400 From: Shawn Taylor Subject: Indie Tape On Ebay Hi, Just thought I would let everyone Know that I have the Indie tape for sale on ebay starting at only .99 cents with no reserve! For more details check out, http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=145563153 Thanks and Best of Luck, Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:44:18 -0400 From: Shawn Taylor Subject: Original Indie Tape For Sale Hi, Just though I would let everyone Know that I have the Indie tape for sale on ebay starting at only .99 cents with no reserve! For more details check out, http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=145563153 Thanks and Best of Luck, Shawn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:22:45 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: C Album Predictions . . . In article <37b07554.19692234@news.p3.net>, trace@frumail.org (Trace) wrote: > I like all of those suggestions Katie. I heartily vote for Get Down > From There! I would also like to add Pork Tenderloin to the list. Oh, come on! You just *know* Get Down From There belongs on Mike's first solo album, due out as soon as I kidnap him and make him record it! ;) Kath - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:19:09 GMT From: ctyner@my-deja.com (Adam Tyner) Subject: Re: Weighing In on Thornhill Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I don't know what I was expecting Thornhill to be, but it definitely wasn't what I got. I mean, it's nice as background music, but it doesn't evoke *any* emotions at all in me, unlike every single other release they've done. I too tend to be more partial to the 'fun' Fruvous, but even then, I find Wood to be totally brilliant -- whatever spark Wood had is almost totally lacking in Thornhill. So far, Splatter Splatter is the only song I've really connected with...most everything else just sounds like '70s AM-radio lite rock. I might warm up to it though. Who knows? :-) For the time being, though, I'm totally underwhelmed. - -One of many Adams on amm-f ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:54:31 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: A quick intro... Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Melanie said: > >> pro-Maryland or pro-Pennsylvania? > >And I haven't a clue what that last one refers to. :) > The Mason-Dixon line. That's all. If it was only that simple. In reality, it is the ultimate statement of good v. evil. off all that is right with the world v. the little piss-ants. You get the idea. - -- chad at radix dot net See: Lori; understatment awards ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:58:44 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori at fruhead dot com wrote: > Snarky Spice threatened: > >I think the 200 miles is reasonable, but you *may* *not* > >claim our piece of turf. > > Sez who? You and chad? HA! I *laugh* in the face of danger. > (Besides, I have a pitchfork left over from Pittsburgh.) Actually, sez her and the person that has your ticket. It's nice of you to see things my way now. Have a nice day. :) - -- chad at radix dot net It's generally considered bad form to pick a fight with someone that has something that you want really badly. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:52:07 GMT From: FruKid Subject: Re: The Hunt For The Orange Shirt Kat wrote: my > guess is that orange was so darn popular that they sold out. *shrug* hey, > i don't mind--that makes both it & my old-fonted canadian boyz shirts > collectors items. *grin* Old-fonted Canadian Boyz T? I didn't know there was an old-font one.. FruKid - -- "..Dijon.." -- Teresa, the MustardGirl "Hey, go talk to MustardMan!!" -- My Mom "i am the slowest of the slower than the slow!!! .....hmm, why am I taking pride in this?" -- maria Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:28:29 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: C Album Predictions . . . In article <7osb2r$h21$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Snarky Spice wrote: > In article <19990810180259.25832.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>, > katiewow@fruhead.com wrote: > > I can't believe no one's made any suggestions as to > > what the track list for this C Album might be > > Nobody remembers Sleepy Drinker. *snif* Of course we do, we're just saving it for Mike's solo album yet again! ;) Or maybe it should be just a Mike "feature" album, with the other guys doing backup... wait, that would just make them Fruvous with Mike as a lead singer. Nevermind. :) hKath, bored and still waiting for Thornhill. - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:56:09 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: Thornhill Musings . . .Kat - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "^kat^" To: ammf@fruvous.com Subject: Re: Thornhill Musings . . . Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:41:00 -0400 happy thornhill day! that's what i've been saying all day [wearing my oldskool font 'i *heart* canadian boys' shirt & dancing around wildly]. i do feel a bit like liv tyler in _empire records_ every time i say it... but i think, judging from the string of photos in the liner notes [but no lyrics! hmph.], that the frulads are far sexier than mr. rexxy manning. mmmm.... *cough* but i digress. Kat your awsome...I wish you were around here on Tuesday. I was doing the same thing all day and nobody understood me...after a while I think they started to get a little sick of my because they would be like..."I know it's Thornhill Day...". And I felt the same way like I was in Empire Records...thats one of my favorite movies. I wonder if anyone else felt like that... Dude I have to meet you so you are going to be at the NYE show I'll be there too...trying my damnedest to get in...hey if there are enough of us youngins maybe they will have to let us in. Well that was great hearing that someone was doing the same thing as me on good old..."THORNHILL DAY!!!" **Jiel** AKA Jill _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 12 Aug 1999 01:43:10 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: Weighing In(kinda long) >Even the rockers (Half As Much, Splatter Splatter, Too Careful) are >midtempo songs - That's what I thought- it seemed to me like the uptempo songs were too slow, and some ballads were picked up a little, making it a VERY midtempo recording. I've noticed that a lot of full length recordings this year are like that (??) >Earthquakes is great fun.. *ditto. At first instant I was distraught with the lack o'banjo but I really like what they did with it! >I never figured on liking a song titled "Hate Letter", but there's a >lot of stuff going on in the background here. GO DAVE!!!! >"You Can't Be Too Careful" - a real enigma for me... I love the >music and arrangement and some of the lyric, but the rest of the >lyrics >are downright embarrasing *ditto again. The arrangement reminds me of some of the other stuff I listen to like the JAYHAWKS (yum). my little addendums-- I *really* like what they did with "Sad Girl" and IWHO. Took me a couple of listens to get used to, listened to the new stuff I had on bootleg too much, but anyway they're cool. Independence Day- This is so well-crafted musically I can't even go into it. Love the melody, love the instrumental line, love the vocal harmony line. Half As Much- in addition to the fact that it felt too slow to rock, the part I was looking forward to the most ("Beeeeelllls Chime" when the instruments drop out), the harmony vocal was mixed way way way too low. I'm going to look up when this producer guy worked with Matthew Sweet so I can get a feel for what he does.* I like all the goof-off stuff that was left in from the studio :) Downsizing: yes~~ I'm glad I hadn't heard it prior to the CD because it was a great surprise. WOW.wowow. In all, THORNHILL's not kicking Jason Falkner out of his top-record-of-99 spot in my book, but I'm really liking it more and more every time and it's getting more spins than my other brand new purchases :Vertical Horizon EVERYTHING YOU WANT-( it's on sale for cheap, like, everywhere! yeah!) and Freedy Johnston's BLUE DAYS BLACK NIGHTS. Angel not agonizing over it, thanks for the advice ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:56:08 GMT From: SnarkiFru Subject: Thornhill reflections, et al. Hey Früfolk... (mental note, Swiss Burger at Marks at 3am is a BAD thing) so, I'm not quite as sleep deprived as Maggie, but I'm working on it. 2 hrs of sleep before getting up to drive out about 20 min away to teach a never before taught class... not recommended but hey, what are ya gonna do? The show was amazing, not enough energy to reminisce just yet, but review IS forthcoming (it helps to let it all sink in) Well, Ok, so like... I got a (no lie) Pork Tenderloin marinading and is about ready to be tamed... lest I pass out on my keyboard but I wanted to spew my quick [1] Thornhill impressions, while I've got my pinky wrapped around the rear-right wheel of the Band Wagon... Half As Much. Ok, this is mostly my fault for frequenting a goodly number of shows close together at the dawning of a new album, and being tuned into WBER so much... I'm kinda getting tired of it. I really do like it... I just think I'm a little in HAM (*smirk*) overload. I'm glad to finally be able to make out what Mike is saying through parts of it ;^} *duck* Sad Girl. I didn't really care for this song when I first heard it. Or the second or third times. Then, something clicked and it fell into place. What was it? I couldn't tell you. I guess I finally heard it in the right frame of mind or something. Too Careful. I already love this song... how many times shall I rant and rave about totally diggin' the clean recording sound? (Gimme a chance, I'll find out for ya) I Will Hold On. As I mentioned to one of the band members last night, IWHO sent shivers down my spine the first time I heard it. I was listening while gtting ready for Tues, and stopped dead in my tracks within the first line. The vocal and instrumental balance (esp. the harmony with the "You know that it's true" lines... *shiver*) was absolute perfection to me. i love hearing the song live... but there's always just a little too much guitar or too much percussion or something. I've fallen in love with this song all over again. Earthquakes. I thought I'd heard this one but as a matter of fact I hadn't. I like... I like muchly (well, being a Mathesonite notwithstanding). When She Talks. I have always been pro-WST, although I have to say honestly that for a good portion of its early play it had a slightly annoying whiney quality (please, no offense meant to you Jian... i think it was a matter of delivery or finding the sweet spot in the vocal range.) It has a much fuller quality now, both live and especially in the recording. (Hoo boy, I have a feeling I'm gonna get it for that one...) Splatter Splatter. Could this song be any more fun??? Very Video Bargainville-esque (-esque being the pop comment of the year, I guess), and again its nice to be able to make out all the lines I was missing when hearing it live. Independence Day. Love it. 'nuff said. Downsizing. Initial thought was that The way Jian sings it, he sounds so young and frail and it seems to contradict with the storyline. However, a few more times through (and letting myself fall into the story), the voice inspires the image of a battered and weary soul, barely having the strength to stand tall... but stands nonetheless... pushing against an immovable wall, accepting that he has to push. The body is too weary to fight but the heart just can't give up. Then again, maybe its just me and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Hate Letter. What can I say but WOW... I wish I had a better sound system so that I could better hear the background business (no matter how I tweak the equilizers i get enough percussion that nearly pops my eardrums when I'm close to the speaker). Thanks to the lyrics on FDC I have an idea of what to listen for... I just haven't heard it all yet. But, besides the awesome groovin' beat, the song is extremely clever (IMHO). If Only You Knew. Ok, this is me prattling on and on... but I think if any song pulls you into the sentiments of the members of the band, this one does. It makes me truly appreciate the grueling hours spent on the road, travelling so far from loved ones and the comforts of home and the sense of stability. Constantly moving, maybe a quick email or phone call or letter from the road, the homecomings bittersweet because deep inside the thought that before they know it they'll just have to pack it up and hit the road tugs at the back of their minds. Just to sound arrogant, I'd like to think that this is another reason why they really appreciate seeing fans who engage in Frutripping all over... they can look out in the crowd and see familiar faces and find a bit of comfort in that. Yeah, ok... I'm talkin' out of my a$$. Moving along... My Poor Generation. My favorite track on this album, hands down. I can't say I cared overly much for the percussion the first few times, but it's growing on me. The harmonies are heartbreakingly beautiful and full, and Dave's voice on the solo lines are his typical clear, resonant, and at certain points brimming with such complex emotions. Well, reading through this, you can tell I'm not fully awake... not quite to that moment between waking and sleeping (I'm still upright and typing and more or less seeing the screen). However, I've spent so much time writing this that I'll be damned if I'll cancel it now!! *smirk* Love you all, - --Angie [1] Ok, so upon proofing this I have A) changed the Subject line to be more appropriate and B) realized that while I intended this to be short and sweet [2], it is in fact not. Gotta love that peculiar trance-like state that overtakes you, brought on from lack of food and sleep. The worst part is, I could keep typing like this. [2] Please refer to my sig... ;^} - --SleepySnark They say that the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions... well, at least it will be a smooth ride - --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 01:55:27 GMT From: FruKid Subject: Re: Tapes N Stuvv Father O'Malley corrected me: > Please read what people > write before asking the same question again Sorry.. okay, i gotta just stop talking, I'm to stupid for this. :\ FruKid - -- "..Dijon.." -- Teresa, the MustardGirl "Hey, go talk to MustardMan!!" -- My Mom "i am the slowest of the slower than the slow!!! .....hmm, why am I taking pride in this?" -- maria Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #688 ********************************************