From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #684 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, August 11 1999 Volume 03 : Number 684 Today's Subjects: ----------------- My own Thornhill experience and review (because hey, everyone is doing it, right? :) [Lawrence P Solomon <] Re: Thornhill Musings . . . [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead.co] Re: A quick intro... [Melanie Natoli ] OT:Sending Ice to Canadia?? [FruKid ] Re: A quick intro... [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] review forthcoming... [~jen <~jen@fruhead.com>] Re: whine whine whine [srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead.com)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:33:13 -0400 From: Lawrence P Solomon Subject: My own Thornhill experience and review (because hey, everyone is doing it, right? :) this is going to contain a song by song review, so if you don't like that sort of thing or are from Canada or something and can't get the album for a while you might want to skip this message. there isn't any other content. :) So, like so many others here, I went out this morning to buy Thornhill. So I went to the store and looked where they usually have Moxy Fruvous. I see Wood, and I see Live Noise, one copy of each. Hmmm. So naturally, I asked the clerk about it, and not only did he understand exactly what I was talking about, but said "Oh yeah, hmmm, I remember checking those in last night, I'll find them," and found them in a *large* stack behind the counter. So I got it, brought it home, and listened to it for several hours non-stop... and here's my take on the whole thing... Overall, an excellent album. It flows reasonably well, although I expected a little more continuity. There are a few transitions that just don't work well for me (IWHO -> Earthquakes and When She Talks -> Splatter Splatter specifically) but overall the sound is good. I don't get what's with all the talking at the beginnings and ends of tracks. I mean, it's like *every track* is like It's Too Cold... I don't really mind it, but it just seems a little gratuitous. Liner notes... no lyrics, but that's apparently the "norm" now, given You Will Go to the Moon and Live Noise... but no credits as to who does what on each song, which has been done in the past... I liked that. Sometimes it's hard to pick out individual instruments. (I'm especially curious about Sad Girl and When She Talks, since they have "non-standard" live arrangements) In keeping with what everyone has said comparing this to Wood, there is no a capella on the album, and the instrumentation tends to be non-simple, but I think the harmonies are still a little stronger than on Wood. Now to the songs themselves... Half as Much. It's really growing on me. I first heard it in King of Prussia last summer, and found that it didn't do much for me. I'm beginning to really like it now. Sad Girl. Very Beatlesque, indeed. In fact, the whole album is... I'm surprised they're all wearing their shoes in the back cover photo. :) Too Careful. I can finally hear the harmonica! The live version always seemed over-instrumentated to me, with two guitars *and* the harmonica, and I usually couldn't hear the harmonica over the electric guitar. But they mixed it very well for the album and I've always liked the song. Right now it's rotating with Independence Day for the song currently stuck in my head. I Will Hold On. I love this one for about the same reason as I love Misplaced. It's complex, yet simple, and it conveys a huge amount of emotion. I think it also has a lot of radio potential. Then again, if they hadn't added the drum track, it might not... go figure. Earthquakes. I'd never heard it before today, but, wow... this is one great song. Some of the odd sounds in it remind me of Sad Today, even. A very well constructed song. When She Talks. Another emotion heavy song. Perhaps the most similar to its live version of all the songs on the album, too. Splatter Splatter. I finally know what everyone's been talking about! Definitely reminiscent of Video Bargainville, in a lot more ways than just the vocal style... the instrumental arrrangement is similar, and the drum track... whoa... I've seen it performed several times, but I don't remember Jian being quite *that* animated at the drums. I'll have to watch carefully next time. Independence Day. Another one similar to the live version, but I think this one comes across a little better. Like in the earlier thread about live transitions, I think this one is hard to place in a live show, but it works great on an album, especially this album. Downsizing. Long, but the good kind of long. Like Nuits de Reve kind of long. Longer, actually. But it doesn't really feel long. The instrumentation is good, but I do need to listen to it a few more times to understand all of it. (been listening on my computer and only paying half attention to it) Hate Letter. This reminds me of some song from the 50s or 60s that I used to hear all the time on the oldies stations, but I can't remember the name of the song, or who sang it. I hope someone else is reminded of the same thing so they can tell me what I'm thinking of. :) If Only You Knew. Another one I hadn't heard very much before, but again, it's great. Again, it seems to fit into the overall feel of the album, too. And, despite a "trite" sounding title and catch line, the lyrics are really good. I'd say as Mike's songs go, this one ranks right up there with On Her Doorstep. My Poor Generation. A very good closer, and apparently a good show closer, too. I don't know what else to say about it, other than it's a really good song to listen to... phew. that was long. :) - -- Lawrence Solomon http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~lps/ zaph@tmbg.org "Just because you're floating doesn't mean * This space inadvertently you haven't drowned." -They Might Be Giants * left with stuff in it. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 1999 03:15:23 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead.com) Subject: Re: Thornhill Musings . . . chad said, re: the Amazon.com ranking of Thornhill: >> It's at 147 now, and #4 on the New Releases list. > >107 now. > >I don't see anyone writing on-line reviews of it, though..... Well then, let's just forward over Chad's, and Lawrence's, and practically everyone else's ... - -- Lori who is a little freaked by the similarity of the opening chords of Downsizing to those of Lucy In the Sky With Diamonds. ******** We're handed a beach ball And told to pick a side ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 03:21:55 GMT From: Melanie Natoli Subject: Re: A quick intro... > What's your favorite book, candy, FruSong and > Canadian province? Are you > pro-Maryland or pro-Pennsylvania? > > That should cover it. > I'm reading a pretty cool book of celtic legends right now. Pixy Stix, gotta love the sugar. Fly. Montreal, wish I knew a little mroe french though. And I haven't a clue what that last one refers to. :) ok. there. --MeL === ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "If you're going to be able to look back on something and laugh, you might as well laugh at it now." --Marie Osmond MeLaNiE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 03:24:11 GMT From: FruKid Subject: OT:Sending Ice to Canadia?? I was reading the paper the other day and I noticed this article about how North Carolina is trucking ice to Canadia! We apparently have a a good bunch of ice makers and Canada isn't ready for a hot summer so we have to send them ie. Since we're used to insanely hot summers. My question is, why'd they pick NC? Shouldn't they take somewhere closer? Do any Canadians here know about this? Mom was saying that since we're shipping ice to Canada, Moxy oughta get down here and play a show to thank us (she's been trying to get me to set a show up). ;) FruKid - -- "..Dijon.." -- Teresa, the MustardGirl "Umalauts are just funny"-- My Mom "i am the slowest of the slower than the slow!!! .....hmm, why am I taking pride in this?" -- maria Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 1999 03:57:18 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: Re: A quick intro... vc wrote: >(right now, the bonzo dog band's "the >intro and the outro" is >playing through my mind. this one might >be a little obscure ...) All right, another Bonzos fan! I don't know what to say, except maybe, "Hi there, nice to be with you, happy you could stick around!" The Count Basie Orchestra on triangle, Carey (goovie@fruhead.com) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 03:47:01 GMT From: ~jen <~jen@fruhead.com> Subject: review forthcoming... ...but first I have to listen to it more, revel in it longer, absorb it all into me for just a little while longer. Right now I can't react in a logical, methodical manner, but boy am I impressed. But I did want to test out the new address! Just two first impressions: 1) the continuity on the album just completely drew me in, and 2) My Poor Generation... wow. (read ellen's post again for more on that. She rocks at this stuff ;-) ~jen (who really wishes tomorrow's commute was about 49 minutes long...) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 11 Aug 1999 04:00:03 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.comicrelief (Lori at fruhead.com) Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lawrence said: >I was going to go to Rochester, but the show sold out >before I could pick up the phone to order tickets... and I bet they're >playing >all of Thornhill, too. > So what? *I*'m playing all of Thornhill, too. >But, to answer Chad's question, there will be none of either. I figure the >most fight-like thing you might would be an exchange such as this: > >"The Cleveland show belongs to the Pittsburgh people! Arrrrrrr!" >"Does not!" >"Does too!" >"Does not!" >"Look, this isn't an argument. This is just contradiction. An argument is a >connected series of statements used to prove one's point, it isn't just >saying >'No it isn't.'" >"Yes it is!" >"No it isn't!" > >and so on... :) Just what we need -- people squabbling inanely on this thread. ;) - -- Lori ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lori@fruhead.com Lori's Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly updated amm-f FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #684 ********************************************