From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #675 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 675 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Important subject if you collect Frumiles [SkyStar117@aol.com] Fruvous balloons [jporcell@us.ibm.com] Re: western NYers rejoice ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: Waves..... [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: Important subject if you collect Frumiles [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lo] Re: whine whine whine [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: With all this promo... [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] Re: The Band Has Four Members ["Leah Bender" ] Re: Chicagoans! Help! [Geenius at Wrok ] re: Jian in NOW Magazine, etc [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] fruvous.com [Leah Bridgers ] Re: OT: Dick of Dick's Pick [Groovy Spice ] Re: The Band Has Four Members ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: Myers & Briggs test [Geenius at Wrok ] RE: fruvous.com ["Leah Bender" ] Re: Newsflash about "C" [aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu] Re: Newsflash about "C" [Josh Drury ] RE: fruvous.com [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: fruvous.com [Jacey7@aol.com] Re: With all this promo... [nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the ] Re: The Band Has Four Members [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: whine whine whine [Donna Hunt ] Re: whine whine whine [Donna Hunt ] Re: OT: the language of sesame [murmbeetle@my-deja.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:43:30 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: Important subject if you collect Frumiles In a message dated 99-08-09 05:34:11 EDT, you write: << My Frumiles card clearly says "valid until end of this Millennium". That's right...we have a FULL year and 4+ months left! Sorry if this has been discussed before. Psycho Mike >> THE END ALL BE ALL OF FRUMILES LIMITATIONS AND EXPIRATION DATES: Tobey said to me "look @ your card...`1998-1999'." Deal. Sorry Everyone! It expires in just like, 4 months...but that's not to say you can't still go see them like, 300000 times on all of their nifty new tour dates!!! love! *deb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:18:20 GMT From: jporcell@us.ibm.com Subject: Fruvous balloons Alright, I have Jian and Dave done, and Mike and Murray will be finished tonight. So far I have three volunteers to bring them to the Archive show. Do I have a fourth? Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:23:20 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: Re: western NYers rejoice On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, andi andrzejewski wrote: > i've gotten several folks in just by saying i was the parent (or foster > parent,in some cases.) it's one of the better venues > i've seen fruvous at for letting folks bend the rules. andi if you're one of "murray's people," does that make you a "murray foster" parent? 8-) (ducks and runs) ciao--vc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:11:37 GMT From: McCown Subject: Re: The Point! I'll be there, too! My dad didn't believe me when I told him I'd actually gotten tickets :) I'm really glad so many other people from here got their tickets too, because I was going to feel really bad posting if people missed out. But, yay fast-dialers! See you there! (look for the family with glasses, and the dad with the ponytail--the longest hair of all three of us!) love Lizzie ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 16:40:26 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: Waves..... ellen wisely said: >> I hope the lads have way too much to do to >> bother with such pointless silliness as a discussion thread of that >> sort. > >yeah. like rehearsing It's Too Cold, or Misplaced, so that they can play >it in annapolis. boy, a second-half-of-wood show.. wouldn't *that* be >cool? ellen, dear, you have a keen grasp of the brilliant. :) > >peace, >ellen (ducking and running) I think, rather, you should stand up and take a bow. - -- Lori, still grooving on hearing Incredible Medicine Show for the first time since ... November! ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 16:36:53 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: Important subject if you collect Frumiles Sara Revell asked: >BTW, how do we cash in the cards? At the merchandise table? Yes. If you know you're planning on redeeming it at a specific show, for a specific goody, it helps to let Jude know in advance so Tobey will have the correct prize on hand. - -- Lori, cashing hers in at Annapolis :) ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html The spiffy, newly updated Früvous FAQ: http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 16:56:42 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lawrence said: >(I know someone at school who's >from Kansas and claims that the Midwest doesn't start until the Mississippi >River... while all the people from the east claim it begins with Ohio :) nope. it begins in Chester County, PA, just west of Paoli, and doesn't stop until the Continental Divide. > >And Pittsburgh acts midwestern, even though it's geographically "eastern," >which associates it a little too heavily with that town on the other side of >the state... Phila-something? nope. According to one highly-quotable band member: "Pittsburgh's totally different." (after that Philly show in CT that was publicly defined as a Philly show "because CT sucks".) - -- Lori, liking Maria's definition of "local". Muwaahaahaahaahaa! Makes everything from Montreal to Columbus to Raleigh a Philly show! heheheheh. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:50:21 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: Re: With all this promo... In article <7okr37$68v$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Snarky Spice wrote: > In article <37ad85dc.5856333@news.freeuk.com>, > ross_hendry@bigfoot.com wrote: > > What with this push to get more publicity for Früvous, d'y'think > > there's a chance that they may come back over here? Pleeeeaaassseee! > > Cool. Can I vote for Spring 2K? Not to be contrary, Kate, but it's > sooner! My touring plans are to cram as many shows as humanly possible > between now and New Year's, then to take a break until spring. > > I can see a trip overseas to see Fruvous as a good--no, make that > great--way to break the lay-off. Miriam repeats the slogan on her almost-t-shirt: MOXY FRUVOUS ISRAEL TOUR 2000 If Jesus Can Make It, Why Not The Lads? long live the glorious struggle! Miriam Beetle Libicki on her first (1st) day back..... "life sucks. One suck to each leg."--Shaul Friedman Ben-Shalom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:04:21 GMT From: "Leah Bender" Subject: Re: The Band Has Four Members >Dave has a kick-ass voice too! Yeah! All the guys have killer voices, but there's just some quality of Dave's voice that I have always found very calming and relaxing... I'm not sure what it is exactly... Is this just me here? - -Bender - ------------------------------------------------------------ * http://www.bombdiggity.com/ * Yeah, baby, YEAH! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:58:01 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: Chicagoans! Help! On 6 Aug 1999, Starry2000 wrote: > Well, I freaked out (in a good way) when I found out that Fruvous would be in > Chicago on a weekend when it would be possible for me to drive the two hours > from school to get there... but then I noticed that they are playing at the > Metro "Smart Bar" which claims you have to be over 21 to attend. Now, I'm > obviously not 21, but I'm close enough that I will be severely pissed if I am > excluded from this show. My question to you, Chicagoans, if you've been to > this place before... how serious are the Metro people about this age thing? Do > I have any chance at all of making my way in? Well, I can't speak for how it is today, but 10 years ago, when I was a mere lad of 20 and freely acknowledged my actual age at the door, they let me in but stamped my hand with an underage stamp. At least, I think it was the Metro. It might have been the Riviera. It was a long time ago. :-\ - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:29:54 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: re: Jian in NOW Magazine, etc In article <144c5785.24dd0bda@aol.com>, LSan497884@aol.com wrote: > LladyYasmina said: > I had to laugh..."Love in the Time of Cholera" is the very book that one > of my favorite professors this year cited as the WORST book he'd ever > read - he said it was a perfect example of the unhealthiest and most > dysfunctional behavior in human relationships, and he strongly urged us > all never, ever to read it. > (Okay, I don't know how to "snip"!) > > Marquez is sort of known for writing about quirky characters and unusual > relationships. That's one of the reasons he's a little hard to read (I've > only read him in Spanish, though, so that might have something to do with > it!). I think it's interesting when professors and "professor-types" try to > tell us what to --and not to-- read. Of course, they can require reading for > the courses that they teach, but for our "free reading" it's a little > presumptive. I think they (profs) should be encouraging students (we're > talking university level here) to read widely and diversely! I learn so much > by reading "outside my comfort zone". And it's a book, for Pete's sake--you > can put it down if you don't want to read anymore! > > Maybe this prof was exercising a little reverse psychology?? "DON"T read > this book", knowing that will send you running to the nearest bookstore?? It worked for my father and "The Beans of Egypt, Maine"... actually I should say it didn't work because he actually DIDN'T want me to read it, and it is a REALLY BAD BOOK, as it turns out.... unless I'm just perpetuating the vicious cycle here...... Drop dead, I'd rather go to bed with Gabriel Garcia Marquez, anyhow. Murm Da Beetle "Life sucks. One suck to each leg." --Shaul Friedman Ben-Shalom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:08:02 -0400 From: Leah Bridgers Subject: fruvous.com Is anyone else having trouble viewing fruvous.com? I've been trying to get onto the site for the past 2 days, and all I get is a lovely grey background! Help! Leah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:21:01 GMT From: Groovy Spice Subject: Re: OT: Dick of Dick's Pick In article <7omp66$ihr$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, "Erring" wrote: > OT: On a sadder note: Those who are also fans of the Grateful > Dead...it is truly a sad day. On the fourth anniversary of the death > of Jerry Garcia I learned that Dick Latvala, of Dick's Picks fame, > passed away. for the record, dick actually died on friday, 8/6 i believe. it's certainly a sad week for the gdead community, at any rate. > historians like Dick who helped keep the memory of a great band alive. indeed. i know a lot of people who'd like to continue his work, too. peace, ellen (RIP jerry and dick...) *************************************************** Airborne with nothing to land on... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:24:21 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: Re: The Band Has Four Members On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, Melanie wrote: > ... I'd really like to hear more about the other guys as well. > Dave's virtuosity and voice--when I first heard Bargainvillle, I feel in > love with Dave's voice. Mike's voice, too. All the guys have great > voices, but what Mike can DO with his voice, WOW. And Murray's > eyes ... agreed. agreed. agreed. jian is a wonderful person. four people make up moxy fruvous, though. "river valley" did me in--big time! dave, mike and jian's voice just made me melt. dave and jian's harmonies, with mike's slight growl coming though ... sigh. i made the mistake of looking into murray's eyes after the 'celebrate toronto' show, whoops! all i got out was, thanks for doing "pork tenderloin" in ann arbor ..." he carried the conversation after that; i just nodded, lost in those beautiful eyes ... great, now i'm gushing. first i swoon, then i gush. next thing ya' know, i'll be eating quiche! ciao--vc (who loves vegetarian quiche, yum!) ________________________________________________________________ " ... it ain't superficial: it's not my clothes and not my hair ... i don't fit in anywhere." -- rob fetters, "i don't fit" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:17:19 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: Newsflash about "C" On 8 Aug 1999, GordonLew wrote: > My guilt ridden talk with Jian almost made me forget my talk with Dave. We > talked about "C" and he said that both "Pisco" and "Killer Tents" would be on > it. Hip Hip Hurray! Hmmm ... just this morning I was theorizing about the Früvous studio album cycle: "Bargainville" - part serious, part funny. "Wood" - all serious. "b" - all funny. "YWGTTM" - part serious, part funny. "Thornhill" - all serious. Next album - all funny? Personally, I'd like it if they were all half-and-half, but that ain't my decision to make. - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:12:11 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: Myers & Briggs test On Sat, 7 Aug 1999, Lynne wrote: > If you go on to the expalination of the results you can find a bar graph > that represents your score. SOme people are extreme E's (extroverts) and > feed of of the energy of being around people. If you were to test E than > I it would mena you are in the middle range and you probably enjoy the > company and being around others as much as you enjoy some quite time with > yourself. And if you tested extreme I, you would get energy from > reflecting inwardly, and processing things by themselves. > > I don't know P and J as well.. but to summerize it has to do with being > "anal" and ordered. Your score could mean that sometimes you are a bit of > both... E = extraversion, i.e. outward orientation, sociability. I = introversion, i.e. inward orientation, withdrawal. S = sensing, i.e. preferring tangible, real-world data. N = intuition, i.e. preferring conceptual, abstract data. T = thinking, i.e. basing decisions on facts and logic. F = feeling, i.e. basing decisions on emotion and impulse. P = perceiving, i.e. preferring to gather data, postpone decisions and leave matters open. J = judging, i.e. preferring to apply data, make decisions and have matters settled. The four-letter type code (e.g., ENFP) indicates the functions that one instinctively chooses over their opposites. The ideal is to have all four function-pairs in balance, so that neither function is automatically preferred over its opposite. Any questions? - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:55:50 GMT From: "Leah Bender" Subject: RE: fruvous.com >Is anyone else having trouble viewing fruvous.com? I've been trying to >get onto the site for the past 2 days, and all I get is a lovely grey >background! Help! > >Leah Wait... am I just a moron, or is this a third Leah? Ack! - -Bender - ------------------------------------------------------------ * http://www.bombdiggity.com/ * Yeah, baby, YEAH! ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 1999 18:56:27 GMT From: aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu Subject: Re: Newsflash about "C" Geenius at Wrok wrote: : "Bargainville" - part serious, part funny. : "Wood" - all serious. : "b" - all funny. Live Noise - live album : "YWGTTM" - part serious, part funny. : "Thornhill" - all serious. : Next album - all funny? And then another live album? :) Kinda makes you wonder... - - A.P. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 14:08:21 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Newsflash about "C" Geenius at Wrok wrote: > "Bargainville" - part serious, part funny. > "Wood" - all serious. > "b" - all funny. > "YWGTTM" - part serious, part funny. > "Thornhill" - all serious. > Next album - all funny? Hmmm... nice little correlation, but "all funny" and "all serious" are a bit too strict definitions when Moxy Fruvous is concerned. Like Wood, for example, might be "all serious" if not for Present Tense Tureen, Organ Grinder, and that little bit before It's Too Cold. Likewise, there's often serious subject matter underneath the more humourous songs, like in the more political songs on b. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 19:23:24 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: RE: fruvous.com Leah Bender asked: >Wait... am I just a moron, or is this a third Leah? Ack! No, you're not a moron ... you can count to three! - -- Lori, noting that this is precisely why western civilization in its wisdom has given us all have last names. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:22:40 GMT From: Jacey7@aol.com Subject: Re: fruvous.com >>I've been trying to get onto the site for the past 2 days, and all I get is a lovely grey background! Help!<< Well, I'm sure this isn't any help, but it's working fine for me... ~jen (sorry!) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:26:21 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: With all this promo... On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:50:21 GMT, someone who looked like murmbeetle@my-deja.com whispered: >MOXY FRUVOUS ISRAEL TOUR 2000 >If Jesus Can Make It, Why Not The Lads? >long live the glorious struggle! >Miriam Beetle Libicki >on her first (1st) day back..... Eek! I see a Beetle! :) Welcome back, Miriam! - --nicole twn *** "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the part that isn't thinking isn't thinking of."--They Might Be Giants Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 19:21:00 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: The Band Has Four Members vc gushed: > i made the mistake of >looking into murray's eyes after the 'celebrate toronto' show, whoops! >all i got out was, thanks for doing "pork tenderloin" in ann arbor ..." >he carried the conversation after that; i just nodded, lost in those >beautiful eyes ... Welcome to the ranks of the bass-driven hand-watching eyes-hypnotized head-nodding silly-feeling Murray's People. It's a shame when it happens, too, because when you *can* come up with coherent statements, Murray is enormously fun to actually chat with. (And hey, even on those occasions when I stand there like an utter idiot, making brilliant rejoinders such as "uh-huh", he is welcoming and makes do quite inventively. Which is just one more reason we humbly recite: "Hail Murray, full of bass ... ") - -- Lori, sorry she missed him on Saturday, and thinking he needs some short-sleeved shirts. Hope he feels better now! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:18:01 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori Martin wrote: > obliging, as always .... > You're so sweet. > not a snowball's chance in hell, sweetheart. especially as Trace and I already > have located the Point of Frumonic Convergence, and it's in The Greater > Philadelphia Area. > :) Ok, I'll give, if I can have a nice title and access to the Great Lakes once you do take over the world. :) > >and hit *3* Ohio frushows in one weekend! (quasi Pittsburgh shows) > > We are there. We are *so* there. Already, there we are. > I can almost *see* you! > FruSpace cordially accepted! :) > Email me. I'll see what I can do for ya. :) I'm off to Rochester and then Boston! Hope to see y'all there! ciao, donna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:31:20 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > Blowtorch. Beats everything. :) (ok, that wasn't fair - someone flip a > coin. I call edge. :) OK, I've got one of those cool $2 Canadian coins... ready? Oh, look, I won. Imagine that. ;) > Oh, it's the midwest... just because the people from farther west don't > consider it that doesn't mean it's not. :) Well, the Great Plains start on the West Bank of the Cuyahoga River, and the Allegenies on the East... Where, you may ask, is the Cuyahoga? Why, it runs right through Cleveland! :) North Coast, I tell you. > And Pittsburgh acts midwestern, even though it's geographically "eastern," > which associates it a little too heavily with that town on the other side of > the state... Phila-something? Never heard of it. > I think I should be frightened. I read that as "Cleveland/US Dollar exchange > rate." :) Shhhh. Don't be frightened. I'm just taking Cleveland and most of the Southern Coast of Lake Erie out of the Union before Lori takes over. :) ciao, donna (proud owner of a new donna@frumail.org email address) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:20:38 GMT From: murmbeetle@my-deja.com Subject: Re: OT: the language of sesame In article <19990805225251.13315.00008419@ng-fr1.aol.com>, shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) wrote: > Angie- > > >. Sesame Street was in > >Spanish... imagine my culture shock to move to Buffalo and hear the little > >monsters utter something in FRENCH!!! > > anyone else ever heard sesame street in HEBREW?? it's called (poorly > transliterated) richov soom soom. it's not quite sesame street but it's > pretty damn close, they even did this combanation special thing with american > sesame st. called richov sesame...it was really cute. AAA! And I thought I'd escaped the culture wars by coming back to the States... I've been operating out of Israel for the past year & there wasn't a day when one of my roommates wouldn't pick a fight with me over chocolate on bread versus chocolate with peanut butter, Rechov Sumsum versus Sesame Street, Dardasim versus Smurfs... I actually don't hold my own very well in most debates about television as I grew up without one, but can you believe in the Israeli Sesame Street they don't even have Don Music??? When I heard that I was like "Forget it, you can't even talk to me...." By the way, the American/Israeli crossover (featuring Itzhak Perlman!) was called "Shalom Sesame". We saw that in school. Miriam Beetle Libicki, currently the English-Language version "Life sucks. One suck to each leg."--Shaul Friedman Ben-Shalom Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #675 ********************************************