From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #672 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 672 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste [frggr78@aol.com (Amy)] Re: Chicagoans! Help! [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)] Re: whine whine whine [luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria)] Re: OK waves, my life, Conan and more [Chad Maloney ] Re: OT: "Hitting on" vs. flirting [hawley@plinth.org (Steve Hawley)] Re: whine whine whine [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: Greetings from a recently former FruVirgin :) ["Sam I Am" ] Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste [katrin@dimensional.com (Katri] Re: Greetings from a recently former FruVirgin :) [srm9988n@aol.composter] Re: Nice Guys (was Waves......) [hKath ] Re: whine whine whine [acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78)] Re: Buffalo Hotels for NYE [kelkelsl@aol.com (KelKelSL)] Re: new quill [ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada)] Re: whine whine whine [chad schrock ] Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste [katrin@dimensional.com (Katri] Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste [dstbunnny@aol.com (DstBunnny)] book recomendations [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: All this Future Frvous stuff [mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie)] Re: up-too late weirdness [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Re: Conan??? [shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe)] Re: Shame: My talk with Jian. [luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria)] Re: whine whine whine [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste [Joe Navratil ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 09 Aug 1999 03:16:20 GMT From: frggr78@aol.com (Amy) Subject: Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste >A.J. LoCicero wrote: > >> Now for the South! Ha HA! > >and i would *so* be there to see this. > >peace, >ellen (and i can recommend which cities in NC *not* to start with) i don't kno where everyone is from on AMMF, but the south isn't all that gun-ho-christian stuff that some think it is. I lived in North Carolina and am now in Virginia, about to move to Florida (which really isn't considered part of the south) and lived in New Jersey...it's all pretty much the same except for the accents. Not too many people left the VA Beach performance. and, if they had more concerts down here, I would be attending plenty more concerts. amy They took off their shoes and bared their SOULS. ~Moxy Fruvous, "Fly" ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 1999 16:06:11 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: Chicagoans! Help! >. but then I noticed that they are playing at the >Metro "Smart Bar" which claims you have to be over 21 to attend. Now, I'm >obviously not 21, but I'm close enough that I will be severely pissed if I am >excluded from this show. Doh.... Well I've never seen a band in the smart bar before, the only time I've been there was for an after show after s show at metro upstairs. But they card, always, and they can be real jerks. Most of the places in Chicago are- I lived at Schubas and "knew people" at Martyrs till I was 21. The Metro and Smart Bar pretty much suck all the way around, what a crappy place to play. Why not 2 nights at Martyrs or or 3 nights at Gunther Murphys or a week of shows at Schubas (there's my choice right there!)? Angel ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 02:44:00 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori stated: >The definition Trace, Jian and I are using, which i imagine would be endorsed >by many midwestern, western, and Canadian Fruheads (not to mention those off >continent) is that a local show is any within 200 miles. :) Hmm, me being part of the "true" midwest, I would have to disagree. My definition of a local show is anywhere within a 500 mile radius. But, that might be different for all of you eastern-midwesterners out there. :) maria who doesn't even think they should have midwest in their name--after all they ARE on eastern time ;D ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ "'Is there something you like?' 'Barney.' 'Is there something you despise?' 'Barney'...'Is something you reject?' 'Food that isn't Barney'" - --Moxy Fruvous, 6/15/99 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 14:03:22 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: OK waves, my life, Conan and more Jill Hufnagel wrote: > So about the Conan show...When is it gooing to be aired? This is the first > time that I have heard about it. And I have to make sure I tape it...I mean > just for the pants right(Hahaha!!!). The Quill says keep an eye out on http://www.fruvous.com for more info. Hopefully we can get some people in the audience for support too. But I'm sure Chris will get notified pretty quickly after the band finds out so the word gets out to us. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 09:04:06 -0800 From: hawley@plinth.org (Steve Hawley) Subject: Re: OT: "Hitting on" vs. flirting In article <7ogng6$jgc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Snarky Spice wrote: > That's not to say it doesn't happen; I'm sure it does. I wouldn't call > myself naive, and of course you can all think whatever you want, but I > wanted to take a second to draw the distinction. Not unlike the distinction between ogling and leering. - -- Steve "I"d lick to lick apricot brandy out of your navel" Hawley Bit Banger hawley@plinth.org - -- "Worship the potato? The idea seemed silly to me. But then I thought, what else is more deserving of worship? It's simple, it comes from the earth, and it can kill you if you disobey it."--Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey http://www.plinth.org ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 01:10:39 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: whine whine whine chad's falling right into my little trap, hee hee: >Actually, by my new definition of MD/DC, as listed on the new >tour card: 8 > >Philly: 4, maybe 5. The definition Trace, Jian and I are using, which i imagine would be endorsed by many midwestern, western, and Canadian Fruheads (not to mention those off continent) is that a local show is any within 200 miles. :) Yes, this does imply a great degree of overlap -- Donna's Cleveland show is also Lawrence's Pittsburgh show, but a show in Pittsburgh would likewise count as an Ohio show. So DC/Annapolis is OURS, dammit. New Jersey, Delaware, NYC and lower Connecticut are Philly suburbs. And while Pittsburgh isn't ours, I believe it *DOES* belong to DC/Maryland. Nyah nyah. :) - -- Lori, hellbent on taking over the world ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:04:30 -0400 From: "Sam I Am" Subject: Re: Greetings from a recently former FruVirgin :) Ya know...don't I know you from somwhere?!?! - -Sam-I-Am- Ubiquity wrote in message <37AE2623.BBB636FB@pantheon.yale.edu>... >Hey all :) > >I was one of the two FruVirgins from New Haven at SoNo yesterday (I'm >the tall one with glasses, the one who you "recognized," Sam :) ). I >juast thought I'd write to say hello and because, well, I thanked the >band for the experience...the fans were just as essential. Both my >roommate and I were absolutely amazed. You guys were the friendliest >and most welcoming bunch that we've ever come across, and helped to make >our first Fru experience an incredible one. Thanks muchly, and I hope >to see all of you and more next Friday in NYC :) > >Love and chocolate eclairs, >Eileen > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 20:00:49 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re:Fell In Love, da bottons, and possibly more... >I personally think that since they never sing songs that we >request at >concerts, that they should have a special concert where the >audience gets to >request songs and they sing them.  Anyone else thinking the same >way?????? Ok I'm a little late on the reply, But totally...but hey maybe that should be part of frucon next year...next year I'm going to the whole thing not just Sat show. **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 20:59:23 GMT From: Snarky Spice Subject: Re: With all this promo... In article <37ad85dc.5856333@news.freeuk.com>, ross_hendry@bigfoot.com wrote: > What with this push to get more publicity for Früvous, d'y'think > there's a chance that they may come back over here? Pleeeeaaassseee! Cool. Can I vote for Spring 2K? Not to be contrary, Kate, but it's sooner! My touring plans are to cram as many shows as humanly possible between now and New Year's, then to take a break until spring. I can see a trip overseas to see Fruvous as a good--no, make that great--way to break the lay-off. But maybe it's just me. - --Amanda You know me, you just don't know you know me Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:21:03 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste In article <19990808231620.29220.00009608@ng-cd1.aol.com>, frggr78@aol.com says... > about to move to Florida (which really isn't considered part > of the south) That's what *I* thought before I moved to Florida too. Sometime when I'm less groggy, if you ask, I'll tell more of the story. I lasted about 5 months there. k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 01:23:36 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: Greetings from a recently former FruVirgin :) Ubiquity said: > I >juast thought I'd write to say hello and because, well, I thanked the >band for the experience...the fans were just as essential. Both my >roommate and I were absolutely amazed. You guys were the friendliest >and most welcoming bunch that we've ever come across, and helped to make >our first Fru experience an incredible one. Ooooh, I'm glad we were so gentle, gang! :) > Thanks muchly, and I hope >to see all of you and more next Friday in NYC :) thanks for posting! Welcome to the joys of Frutripping, and we hope to see more of you -- both in person and putting messages of great import and relevance here on amm-f. (Hey, SOMEBODY's got to do it, eh?) If you haven't yet visited http://www.fruvous.com, by all means check out the website that holds the secrets of the Fruniverses! Again, welcome. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 23:38:56 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: Nice Guys (was Waves......) In article <37AB6348.7BBCDA7D@wwnet.com>, cicero@wwnet.com wrote: > So, for those of you who weren't sure... If I'm talking to you, then I'M HITTING ON > YOU! 'K? :) Oh, no! Just think of all the times I've been hit on by AJ and didn't even realize it, when really I could have been professing my love for him on alt.males.aj-locicero (which is of course what you do as a natural response to being hit on - everyone knows that)! Kath (I'm telling Lisa! ;) - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 08 Aug 1999 04:18:58 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori suggested: >Yeah! Come up to Philly November 19! >It's not like we don't have train stations n stuff (in fact, there's a station >in Glenside mere seconds from the Keswick. Ah, you see, this is where the worst part comes into play. On November 19, I'm supposed to be at a folk concert at my school that I organized. It's gonna be a good concert, though: Margo Hennebach and Mark Saunders, who performed at the new artists showcase at FRFF (did anybody see them?) . But oh, well, I'll just listen to the wisdom and optimism of older/wiser Fruheads on this one. It's a beautiful day, the sun is shining[1], and I only have one more performance of How to Succeed in Business to go! Carey ************* Chipmunk rah, chipmunk rah, chipchipchipchip chipmunk! [1]Actually it's midnight and it's bloody dark outside. But the first way sounded better. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 1999 23:07:10 GMT From: kelkelsl@aol.com (KelKelSL) Subject: Re: Buffalo Hotels for NYE >err... it might help to note that the barenaked ladies are also playing >buffalo >on nye Really? Where? On the hotel topic, you might try attempting to book rooms that in locations that are further away from downtown Buffalo and the airport. Areas like Hamburg, Niagara Falls (not downtown), and Depew (exit 49 on the Thruway) may prove to have less expensive rates due to their proximity to the city. That is, of course, if you are driving or will rent a car. Good luck to all of you travelers! We hope to be there as long as we can locate a babysitter. Remember, it is also NYE 1999 which is probably the majority of your problem and will be no matter what your destination is for that date. Kelly SL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 15:24:40 -0500 From: ksucy@nospam.eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada) Subject: Re: new quill In article <7oirkc$hm3$0@206.231.153.89>, "Hell Hotel" wrote: > I just thought I'd tell everyone that the new Quill is on the way now. I > just got mine today, I'll be scanning it tommorow and posting it here and > on my web page. This had made me just that much more anxious for tuesday > when thornhill is released!!!! I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but did you see the tour dates enclosed with the Quill? Check out the date for Saturday, Dec. 11. It's in Toronto, NY. Freudian slip? - -kimberly ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 19:53:42 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori Martin wrote: > chad snarked: > > >Check your tour schedule again, dear. There is a Washington show > >listed on Saturday, November 20. Venue TBD. > oh piffle. I hadn't yet opened my Quill when i wrote that. :) Weel, get on with it then.... > >oh, and we're winning on this tour. :) > not according to the definition of "Philly show" that Trace, > I, and at least one band member agree is quite reasonable. ;) Oh? Well, I'll be enjoying my three shows **NEXT** week, plus another the following week. > (Philly shows on the feline-enhanced tour schedule: 12. > MD/DC shows: 9. So :P ) Actually, by my new definition of MD/DC, as listed on the new tour card: 8 Philly: 4, maybe 5. Nyah. - -- chad at radix dot net Why is flying from IAD to JNB such a PITA? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:03:00 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste In article <37AC9066.95BCBA6D@umich.edu>, navratil@umich.edu says... > However, "Mich-i-gan Mil-i-tia" scans really easily, yah :-) And it just rhymes with more stuff than "Posse Comitatus." k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 1999 20:03:26 GMT From: dstbunnny@aol.com (DstBunnny) Subject: Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste >AJ boldly suggests the mission > >>Now for the South! Ha HA! > >methinks it would be great to get teh christian coalision clad southern US >hopping to michican Militia. (personally, i thought MF got it wrong using >michican anyway, it should have been missisipi...but that would have been >harder to say). hmm...now that's one hell of a mental picture.. >smiles >genna My own mental picture goes something like: "Ditto..." "Ditto..." "Ditto..." "Ditto..." - -- Ten minutes later -- Frübus being run out of town by a pick-up truck full of pitchfork-wielding hillbillies. Christine "They didn't start chasing us until you turned on that getaway music!" ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 1999 19:18:14 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: book recomendations frukid asked > >I've been wondering, too, are there any books any of you would *really* >recommend to me? ok, my personal favs are. Sphere by micheal Crichton (every one seems to think he's crap writing, but he really makes you think, and he puts MORAL LESSONS into his books...you may be surprised). also, anything by kurt vonnegut..he's a god...i'm telling you. also, farenheit 451 by Ray bradbury, (bradbury's an increadable writer) if you want easy reading, sillyness, pick up a compilation of dave barry collumns, i have embarressted myself in public by sitting alone reading his books, and laughing so uncontrollably that i have fallen over. one flew over the kuckoo's nest by kne kesey is great too. and catch 22 by joseph heller that's enough for now...i'm an avid reader, i could go on for days, but i'll shut myself up now ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 00:07:38 GMT From: mocksie@aol.com (Mysterious Mocksie) Subject: Re: All this Future Frvous stuff I hate to cause another ruckus, but.... Ross so blatantly exclaimed: >What I am trying to say is basically 'shut >up' to all these people who >are already lamenting the loss of their >band. I neither respect your comment nor anything you stand for. For you to tell those of us who are "lamenting" over the fact that the closeness with the band may soon be over, and the media will be swarming all over (shall I say it again) The Barenaked Ladies Of the New Millenium is downright wrong. We are, all of us, entitled to our opinions about Moxy Fruvous and the publicity the lads recieve. It is not yours, or anyone else's, right to tell us oh so childishly to "SHUT UP". Feel the way you do and respond how you want to but I am personally insulted in the manner in which you spoke with us. - -Mocksie "There's only one cloud in the sky, and it's raining on me. Somehow I'm not surprized." ~Eeyore~ "I misplaced what made me real." ~Moxy Fruvous~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:27:58 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: up-too late weirdness In article <19990808133110.00356.00004387@ng-fo1.aol.com>, shadoeme@aol.com says... > i say "TOOTHPASTE leaves a strange taste". ..realise it a little later > and start laughing my little head off... Yeah, I love that little misquote. I can't hear that song without thinking of those childhood mornings when we (and everyone's done this, don't deny it) accidentally brushed our teeth and drank our orange juice in the wrong order. (Sorry Bridget, but that's always what the song reminds me of!) k@ - ---------------------------------------------------- "When someone says that they can't draw a straight line, it's a comment that belittles the act of drawing. It suggests that it's a God-given thing, that no one has to practice it, that all artists are idiot-savants." - --Phoebe Gloeckner ------------------------------ Date: 07 Aug 1999 19:08:30 GMT From: shadoeme@aol.com (ShadoeMe) Subject: Re: Conan??? > >mocksie wrote: >> Am I the only one *not* excited about this? i'm not either, i havent been around long enough to be known by you guys as a *real* fruhead, nor do any of the lads recognize me by sight (having only seen them at clearwater). and i hope, like frukid said, that, coming in right before what may be a surge of new faces, wont get me lost in the shuffle. i am REALLY impressed with the friendlyness of you guys. and the great relationship you have with each other and with the band. really impressed by the concept of fruspace, with the sharing of rides, with the baking... and i hope i dont just apear to be just another of the teenage groupies that might come along with the radio-friendly album and an aprearence on mainstream american TV. but, i know it's selfish, and i really do, honestly, wish the band the greatest success. smiles genna (as she wipes the sap of her keyboard) ------------------------------ Date: 08 Aug 1999 04:44:16 GMT From: luckydabed@aol.complexity (maria) Subject: Re: Shame: My talk with Jian. Gordon said: > I confessed I was and he said. "Your the one who >bought the promo of Thornhill so we don't get any money and then trashed it >in >your review, said it was the worst Moxy Album. I am *sure* this meant in a kidding way. The lads make jokes about bootlegs, etc. frequently. I also doubt it if the lads will think of you "as a marked man". They are just too nice for that. I also think they welcome constructive criticism with open arms. that is what has helped this band evolve from Bargainville [1] to Thornhill.[2] [3]. okay, anyway enough of my mini-rant. maria [1] I am NOT saying bargainville is bad...it's just earlier work [2] okay, that's a POV that doesn't suit everybody, but it's my opinion [3] okay, well i wouldn't say Gordon's criticism was constructive, but i wil say he tried to make it not as harsh ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ "'Is there something you like?' 'Barney.' 'Is there something you despise?' 'Barney'...'Is something you reject?' 'Food that isn't Barney'" - --Moxy Fruvous, 6/15/99 ------------------------------ Date: 09 Aug 1999 03:53:09 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: whine whine whine >Donna's Cleveland show > >Hmmn. I just like the way that sounds. Say it again, Lori. ;) obliging, as always .... >> is also Lawrence's Pittsburgh show, but a show in Pittsburgh would likewise >> count >> as an Ohio show. >> > >And is therefore also... mine? ;) >I'll fight you for it, Lawrence! Ready... Rock, Scissors, Paper! Now, now, children, if I can share Annapolis with chad, then I'd expect both of you to be able to settle this without smashings or smooshings or shreddings. >> -- Lori, hellbent on taking over the world >Unless I beat you to it. not a snowball's chance in hell, sweetheart. especially as Trace and I already have located the Point of Frumonic Convergence, and it's in The Greater Philadelphia Area. >However, I cordially invite you to visit the lovely landscape of the >"midwest" >[or the North Coast, as I refer to Ohio and Michigan in my own personal >universe] >and hit *3* Ohio frushows in one weekend! (quasi Pittsburgh shows) We are there. We are *so* there. Already, there we are. FruSpace cordially accepted! :) - -- Lori, ready to go get Homicidal again. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 16:00:38 -0400 From: Joe Navratil Subject: Re: New Faces...too damn many for my taste ShadoeMe wrote: > methinks it would be great to get teh christian coalision clad southern US > hopping to michican Militia. (personally, i thought MF got it wrong using > michican anyway, it should have been missisipi...but that would have been > harder to say). Well, the Michigan Militia actually exists (for a "how can people be so stupid" read, check out http://www.geocities.com/~cowboy140/ ), and is dedicated to protecting the Constitution by such obvious means as complaining about the government and not paying taxes and rallying against the UN (figure *that* one out) and the like. They've never really seemed organized enough to form another Waco, though, which is what Michy seems to be suggesting. They've, er, got the aim but they don't have the range, as it were. However, "Mich-i-gan Mil-i-tia" scans really easily, yah :-) -Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 20:45:33 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Greetings from a recently former FruVirgin :) Ubiquity wrote: > I was one of the two FruVirgins from New Haven at SoNo yesterday (I'm > the tall one with glasses, the one who you "recognized," Sam :) ). I > juast thought I'd write to say hello and because, well, I thanked the > band for the experience...the fans were just as essential. Thanks, Eileen! We appreciate the pat on the back and are really glad you enjoyed your first Fruvous show! Make sure you setup a bookmark to http://www.fruvous.com because when the apocalypse comes and Monkey Boy is crying havok and letting slip the dogs of war, the only thing that can save you is a bookmark to FDC when Monkey Boy checks your computer. Ok, there are a lot of other ways to escape the apocalypse, but hey, bookmark it anyway. It won't hurt anyone! > Love and chocolate eclairs, Gee, I thought Dave owed me a crapload of eclairs. Now Eileen owes me one too. I should start keeping track... Welcome again, Eileen! Glad you came out to play in the newsgroup. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 23:39:33 -0400 From: Donna Hunt Subject: Re: whine whine whine Lori Martin wrote: > Yes, this does imply a great degree of overlap -- Donna's Cleveland show Hmmn. I just like the way that sounds. Say it again, Lori. ;) > is also Lawrence's Pittsburgh show, but a show in Pittsburgh would likewise > count > as an Ohio show. > And is therefore also... mine? ;) I'll fight you for it, Lawrence! Ready... Rock, Scissors, Paper! > -- Lori, hellbent on taking over the world Unless I beat you to it. However, I cordially invite you to visit the lovely landscape of the "midwest" [or the North Coast, as I refer to Ohio and Michigan in my own personal universe] and hit *3* Ohio frushows in one weekend! (quasi Pittsburgh shows) I dare you, Lori. After all, I've already invaded *your* territory! Can you believe it? I mean, this is better than the Canadian/US Dollar exchange rate! ;) ciao, donna ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #672 ********************************************