From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #632 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 03 : Number 632 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Falcon Ridge Reflections... [michykith@aol.com (Michykith)] Re: FRFF? ["Jacey7@aol.com" ] Re: Fruhead common interests [drea1@my-deja.com] Re: Myers-Briggs Count Tangent ["Gramcracker" ] Re: FRFF? [trace@frumail.org (Trace)] Re: Myers-Briggs Count Update ["Jacey7@aol.com" ] Jian Ghomeshi ["Mark Berry" ] Re: King of Spain [AngelCL7@aol.com] Re: Hi! I'm new also. [AngelCL7@aol.com] Re: Myers-Briggs Count Update [AngelCL7@aol.com] RE: Jian Ghomeshi [Melanie ] Re: King of Spain [JennBBB@aol.com] Re: Jian Ghomeshi [Josh Woodward ] Re: Pictures being edited? [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Jian Ghomeshi [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Myers & Briggs test [AngelCL7@aol.com] Can't Wait for Thornhill! [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: Pictures being edited? [Josh Woodward ] Re: Can't Wait for Thornhill! ["Gramcracker" ] RE: Myers-Briggs [CheesemonkeyGem ] Re: Jian Ghomeshi [Bridget ] Re: Myers-Briggs Count Tangent [Josh Drury ] Re: Jian Ghomeshi [Chad Maloney ] OT-Where are you Valerie? [fruchild@my-deja.com] OT-Where are you Valerie? [fruchild@my-deja.com] Re: King of Spain [Bridget ] ol' fogie-dom! (was Re: Myers-Briggs) ["VINCENT G. CICILLINI" ] Re: Jian Ghomeshi [Mjgreenb@aol.com] Dave Matheson (was Jian Ghomeshi) ["A.J. LoCicero" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:23:41 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: Falcon Ridge Reflections... Lizzie reflected upon... > Katryna and Dave C.'s *engagement* anouncement!!! Is this true? Or was it a joke a little non-Falcon Ridger like myself (::::wail:::) wouldn't get? ~Joni ~Joni * * * * "I love talking about nothing, it's the only thing I know anything about" Oscar Wilde _ An Ideal Husband_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:23:55 -0800 From: "Jacey7@aol.com" Subject: Re: FRFF? OK, you left out the *one* I didn't get: THGTTG ~jen (who's begining to think we should start the AMMF-to- English dictionary...) * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:09:10 GMT From: drea1@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Fruhead common interests > I love Monty and Red Dwarf. I knew that Monty was popular, I'll have to find > the Dwarf fans. > What is EFO? You found one already - me :) "I'm gonna eat you little fishy!" Gee, wonder who my favourite character is? ;) EFO is Eddie From Ohio. HTH, Drea "I'm a chartered accountant, and therefore too boring for my opinion to be of any consequence." - Monty Python "You're a fruhead - you don't count. We're talking about normal people." - - Fiona, July 19/99 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:20:29 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Re: Myers-Briggs Count Tangent > I heard once, though - *and a big disclaimer here: I have no idea if this > is true! I only have it on hearsay!* - that among Mensa members, the > proportions are reversed: 75% introverts and 25% extraverts. > > Now, the person who told me this was trying to prove that introverts are > smarter than extraverts. I think that's not at all the case, though (or > if it is, that statistic doesn't do anything to prove it). What that > figure shows is that smart introverts are more likely to join groups like > Mensa, where they hope to have something in common with the people they > meet, whereas smart extraverts would feel less of a need to join a > specialized group, because they're more comfortable socializing with a > wider range of people. And nothing's wrong with either way. wow, that's the best explanation i've ever heard.. I agree completely! I've had people tell me i could join Mensa, if i wanted, but i've never felt like it, partly because i'm part of so many other groups, and i don't feel like i'd fit in with other "smart outcasts" can anyone else relate? smoochies, meghan - -- - -------- "Life . . . is like a box of chocolates. A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that no one ever asks for. Unreturnable because all you get back is another box of chocolates. So, you're stuck with mostly undefinable whipped mint crap, mindlessly wolfed down when there's nothing else to eat while you're watching the game. Sure, once in a while you get a peanut butter cup or an English toffee but it's gone too fast and the taste is fleeting. In the end, you're left with nothing but broken bits filled with hardened jelly and teeth shattering nuts, which if you are desperate enough to eat leaves nothing but an empty box of useless brown paper wrappers." - -Cancerman, "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" - -------- ICQ# 17903747 http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4448 gramcracker@geocities.com - -------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:43:44 GMT From: trace@frumail.org (Trace) Subject: Re: FRFF? On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:23:55 -0800, Jacey7@aol.com wrote: > >OK, you left out the *one* I didn't get: > >THGTTG OOPS! The Hitchhikers Guide To the Galaxy. Sorry 'bout that :-) > >~jen (who's begining to think we should start the AMMF-to- >English dictionary...) Actually, I think this is one of the best ideas I've heard lately... - -- Trace trace@frumail.org "Part of a new, emerging feminist movement." ~Jian commenting on his Brittany Spears t-shirt: 7/24/99 Crisis, Get Help ~Anagram of "The Spice Girls" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:31:17 -0800 From: "Jacey7@aol.com" Subject: Re: Myers-Briggs Count Update >>this group...attracts a disproportionate number of misfits, oddballs, people who'd consider themselves losers, etc.<< All we need is a water gun that shoots grape jelly and a Charlie-in-the-Box and we've got ourselves an island! ~jen (who'd prefer to put herself in the "oddball" category, of the choices above ;-) **Sig file being held hostage by deja** * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:28:40 GMT From: "Mark Berry" Subject: Jian Ghomeshi Jian Ghomeshi is going through an early mid - life crisis. It is a fact that he is 31 yrs old. It is also a fact that he is dating a girl who is 18 years old or younger. I am repulsed. Hopefully the music doesn't go the same path as Jian - askew. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:34:06 GMT From: AngelCL7@aol.com Subject: Re: King of Spain >I found an Mp3 of GreenEggs and Ham on the Internet.. and if i can remember >the site I got it from, I will let everyone know what it is! I found an Mp3 of GreenEggs and Ham on the net too. Here it is: FAST MP3 Search results There are also other ones too. ~~Crystal~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:28:20 GMT From: AngelCL7@aol.com Subject: Re: Hi! I'm new also. >I know for a fact that the Media Play on Transit Rd. has 75 copies of Thornhill on >order for the 10th, and I am sure that other local Media Play's will have the CD >in these quantities as well. Well thank you very much for that! Wow I went looking all over but never thought of Media Play! I must've forgot about it! >One other place to look in Buffalo is "Record Theatre", with locations in >Lancaster, Buffalo, Amherst, and Hamburg. Where in Amherst is "Record Theatre"? I never heard of that place. Thanx for your help! ~~Crystal~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:24:03 GMT From: AngelCL7@aol.com Subject: Re: Myers-Briggs Count Update >Another possibility is that *NFPs are just the kind of people who are >likely to like Früvous - and also to like communicating through >newsgroups, and to like taking personality tests (I know I enjoy all >three). Put those factors together, and you'll get a skewed sample. I know I enjoyed taking the test, communicating through this newsgroup, And I love Fruvous! >I do think that this group (the online Frü-community and the larger fan >base in general) attracts a disproportionate number of misfits, oddballs, >people who'd consider themselves losers, etc. And I think those labels >have a lot (everything?) to do with simply being what I like to call a >"personality minority." Among our numbers, unlike the world at large, >geekiness is pretty much the norm. What do u mean by that statement? I'm wondering. >We're an incredibly varied crowd in >terms of ages, lifestyles, opinions and other interests, but there's >definitely a higher-than-average intelligence level here (check out the >spelling ability of the average member of any other newsgroup or IRC >channel...), as well as just a sense of belonging, a sense of community, >of "finally fitting in somewhere." And as I said before, whatever the >reason, I think that can only be a good thing. I definitely agree with that statement! ~~Crystal~~ Am I supposed to leave a quote here? I'm wondering. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:59:12 GMT From: Melanie Subject: RE: Jian Ghomeshi Frankly, it's none of our business whom Jian dates. Melanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:53:29 GMT From: JennBBB@aol.com Subject: Re: King of Spain I << Okay, forget about Lisa's and Cchad's, we have a new epidemic. Jen/Jennifer's!! Now how are we going to sort through this? >> Its true... prob w/ bein born in early 70s. would it be easier if i stick to jennifer? or jai (my other nickname)? or just make up what you want to call me :)\ jennifer ~~ the ever flexible ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 18:53:10 GMT From: Josh Woodward Subject: Re: Jian Ghomeshi Mark Berry wrote: : Jian Ghomeshi is going through an early mid - life crisis. It is a fact that : he is 31 yrs old. It is also a fact that he is dating a girl who is 18 : years old or younger. I am repulsed. Hopefully the music doesn't go the same : path as Jian - askew. The fact that you don't even know the age of this alleged girl says a lot about the validity of your claim. Even if this were true, it's absolutely none of your business and the personal lives of the band are irrelevant and inappropriate to discuss here. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@fruhead.com Web Site and Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:42:46 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Pictures being edited? "Sam I Am" delighted us with: >Jian's hand it just doesn't look right. I looks like someone moved it. Whats >up with that??? Huh. Looked weird to me too, for a minute, until Chris pointed out that the shadows scanned too dark, and that the "long" part of what looks like it doesn't belong there is actually the continuation of Jian's index finger, while the short part is part of his bent middle finger. As far as I know, Chris never edits any pictures, save for making them a little sharper/better to view sometimes, and sometimes changing their format to .jpg because that's one of the most universal pic formats (as opposed to, say, .bmp, which doesn't look right on some computers). The homepage pic is, of course, a combination of his Photoshop wizardry and various pictures available to him, but that's pretty blatant, non? :) Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "What happened to the times when you knew everything [tour-dates-related] by heart?" - "I got a life." -from a conversation with a webmaster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:48:19 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Jian Ghomeshi "Mark Berry" delighted us with: >Jian Ghomeshi is going through an early mid - life crisis. It is a fact that >he is 31 yrs old. It is also a fact that he is dating a girl who is 18 >years old or younger. I am repulsed. Hopefully the music doesn't go the same >path as Jian - askew. A) Do we care who he dates? and 2) This is the first time I've seen someone with enough gall to post to the newsgroup attempting to spread a rumor about a member of Moxy Fruvous that really isn't any of anyone's business. Including yours. That post was in very poor taste, Mark. If you wish to express disappointment with an instance where Jian treated you rudely, or with the direction his music is going in, please feel free. But, please, refrain from making value judgments on *any* human being, especially using information that, be it true or false, is really not for you or anyone else to judge. You wanna say the above to his face? You do that. If you wouldn't want to, for whatever reason, why would you want to badmouth him on the newsgroup? Eh? - -v Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net "What happened to the times when you knew everything [tour-dates-related] by heart?" - "I got a life." -from a conversation with a webmaster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:23:14 GMT From: AngelCL7@aol.com Subject: Re: Myers & Briggs test I took the test again and it says I'm a ENFJ but when I took it the first time I got a ENFP. I don't understand! Help! Someone please explain why I got 2 different results! Please! ~~Crystal~~ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 19:05:26 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Can't Wait for Thornhill! Pardon the red-herring header -- this post has nothing to do with Thornhill. But once again, we seem to have a troll. And while the temptation to spring to the defense is strong, it would be infinitely more effective if no dignity was lent to the innuendo-filled thread he started. Just don't respond at all. He's not worth the attention. - -- Lori ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Früvous/amm-f factoids galore (courtesy of Colleen Campbell): http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 19:02:17 GMT From: Josh Woodward Subject: Re: Pictures being edited? Sam I Am wrote: : P.S.- I almost forgot what I was gonna post. And what is going on with : Fruhead.com?? L8r all! It's back up, for those of you testing. For everyone else, once I get the AMMF interface working right, it'll be unleashed for all. Within a week or two. Soon. :) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@fruhead.com Web Site and Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:10:25 -0400 From: "Gramcracker" Subject: Re: Can't Wait for Thornhill! > Pardon the red-herring header -- this post has nothing to do with Thornhill. > But once again, we seem to have a troll. And while the temptation to spring to > the defense is strong, it would be infinitely more effective if no dignity was > lent to the > innuendo-filled thread he started. Just don't respond at all. He's not worth > the attention. i agree.. just leave the issue alone, or we'll see nothing else for the next month. smoochies, meghan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:45:25 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: RE: Myers-Briggs welp, mark me down for a ISTJ, i guess. altho the questionnaire must be rigged, im NOTHING like the description... serious? quiet?? PATIENT?? HA!! ya right... - -jen the cheesemonkey === ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The trouble with the world today is that there is no music to give you a preview of what's to come ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:57:09 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Jian Ghomeshi - --- Josh Woodward wrote: > Mark Berry wrote: > : Jian Ghomeshi is going through an early mid - > life crisis. It is a fact that > : he is 31 yrs old. It is also a fact that he > is dating a girl who is 18 > : years old or younger. I am repulsed. > Hopefully the music doesn't go the same > : path as Jian - askew. > > The fact that you don't even know the age of > this alleged girl says a > lot about the validity of your claim. Even if > this were true, it's > absolutely none of your business and the > personal lives of the band > are irrelevant and inappropriate to discuss > here. amen! thanks, josh! === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Dave Matheson's banjo, Mike Ford's artwork... and Murray's a great guy!!" ~Jian, 6/16/99 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:50:07 -0500 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Myers-Briggs Count Tangent Gramcracker wrote: > I've had people tell me i could join Mensa, if i wanted, but i've never felt > like > it, partly because i'm part of so many other groups, and i don't feel like > i'd fit in with other "smart outcasts" > > can anyone else relate? Yeah, it seems to me that most people in Mensa are real geeks -- like, the bad kind. Seriously, thoguh, it seems like a far too elitist organisation for me to seriously consider. I think I'd respect myself less if I were a member. Far more satisfying to be part of this newsgroup... Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:06:39 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Jian Ghomeshi Mark Berry wrote: > > Jian Ghomeshi is going through an early mid - life crisis. [snip] Excuse me. I hate replying to obvious trolls, but I do it anyways, mostly because I'm hoping with one quick response everyone else won't go way off on some hell bent tangent here. This is not the place to slander people. I don't know what reference you have to state your "facts" and what you hope to gain from stating them here and I truly don't care. The personal lives of the band members are none of our business. They offer themselves to be known to us through visiting after shows and chatting and by breaking the 4th wall at their shows. No one should take this as an invitation to pry into their private lives or think you deserve to do so. You don't. Period. It is my privelege to have been allowed to know these men and I appreciate the time they give me. What Jian Ghomeshi does with his private life is up to him. Whom he wants to spend his time with is his choice. He has real, true to life friends who can take it upon themselves to be a daily part of his life and help guide him through it. He doesn't need someone coming to a public forum and attempting to "help him". Please, do not make wild accusations in this public forum, especially about people's private lives that he have no right to discuss. If you'd like to take up what you view as fact with the man himself, go see a show or email Jude and see what she does with it. Don't bring it here where it doesn't belong. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:05:47 GMT From: fruchild@my-deja.com Subject: OT-Where are you Valerie? Sorry guys, but I have no access to my account. If you are reading Val, I need you to write me at my bro's account... bjm2344@rit.edu spanx! Fruchild Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:05:46 GMT From: fruchild@my-deja.com Subject: OT-Where are you Valerie? Sorry guys, but I have no access to my account. If you are reading Val, I need you to write me at my bro's account... bjm2344@rit.edu spanx! Fruchild Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:21:38 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: King of Spain - --- JennBBB@aol.com wrote: > Its true... prob w/ bein born in early 70s. > would it be easier if i stick to > jennifer? or jai (my other nickname)? or > just make up what you want to > call me :)\ > > jennifer ~~ the ever flexible > wow. a co-worker and i were just talking about how many jen/jenny/jennifers we had in school. she was born 1971 and i'm 1972. no point to this post! (o: === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Dave Matheson's banjo, Mike Ford's artwork... and Murray's a great guy!!" ~Jian, 6/16/99 _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:22:38 GMT From: "VINCENT G. CICILLINI" Subject: ol' fogie-dom! (was Re: Myers-Briggs) On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 Jihead1@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated Wed, 28 Jul 1999 3:19:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) writes: > > > I think it's been established that official "fogie" status goes to anyone > > older than at least 3/4 of the band. So I think you just missed it, Lisa. > > Sorry. > > > > k@ > > So 33 doesn't cut it, huh? > > Lisa B. > were you born before dave matheson? his birthdate is feb. 17, 1966, i think -- check fdc to be sure. they wiped the year out, but i recall: mike (1962), dave (1966), jian (1967), and murray (1967). if you were born before dave, then congratulations! 8-) ciao--vc ___________________________________________ "... missed by THAT much." -- maxwell smart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:15:33 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: re I'm new also Crystal wrote: It's hard for me to get a hold on their CDs where I live in NY. None of the music stores seem to carry their music ( which sucks really bad! ). I complained and they said that they are working on getting some in, so I'm glad for that! Some of my personal info is: I'm 16 years old, I live in Lockport, NY. Crystal - first of all welcome to this lovely little community we callammf.I liveinBuffalo,NY,not far from you and i have pretty good luck at New World Records on Elmwood Ave near Utica st or at MediaPlay stores. Moxy has been know to do in store appearances at New World Records so personally i like to support them - but places like Record Theatre,Borders,and most of the other music stores in this area will order things for you hope that helps andi Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:03:29 GMT From: Mjgreenb@aol.com Subject: Re: Jian Ghomeshi Mark: I had to stop and think before I completely slammed you in this post. First, what business is it of yours WHAT Jian does or WHO he chooses to see? Second, I and most other people on this list couldn't care less about what you choose to say. Third, Jian and the rest of the lads are great songwriters and musicians, which is what this list is about. Keep your thoughts for the Star or Enquirer. Fru-Teach "Never argue with an idiot...they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience" - Mike Greenberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:39:46 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Dave Matheson (was Jian Ghomeshi) Dave Matheson is a 160-year-old human alien half-breed who's father was Richard Wagner. This fact horrifies me. I hope his music doesn't follow the path of his father's (ugh!) A.J. - -- Updated Soon. I promise! See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #632 ********************************************