From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #526 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, June 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 526 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fruhead.Com: Announcement and Contest [Josh Woodward ] Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? [aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu] Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? [sittin'onthecouch@home.com (The Toolm] Re: The Vault show! (very long) [Ellen Ellen Watermelon ] Review: 6-24-99, The Vault (Long long long) [Swoop-Dot-Loop ] Re: Pardon my ignorance... ["KatieWow" ] Re: total request live + Moxy ["KatieWow" ] Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? ["KatieWow" ] Re: OT: Susan Werner ["KatieWow" ] Re: huh? [jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:34:47 -0400 From: Josh Woodward Subject: Fruhead.Com: Announcement and Contest Greetings, all! I'm happy to announce that Fruhead.Com's doors will be open very soon! Fruhead.Com (FHDC) is a central location where the Fruhead community can interact in many different ways. The site is exclusively for Fruheads and about Fruheads. I am working with Chris O'Malley to migrate the Frufans List to FHDC. When you visit FHDC, you can create an account. This account is your identity on FHDC, and corresponds to and will replace your profile on FDC when you're ready. With this account, many things are possible: * Browse profiles of other Fruheads and interact in numerous ways. * Get your own somebody@fruhead.com e-mail alias. * Create a homepage on FHDC with your personal web space. * An interface for reading and posting to this newsgroup from the web, in a much more intuitive way than places like Deja News. * A Java interface to the IRC channel for those without access to traditional IRC clients. * Link up with other tape traders. * Plan for Fruvous trips via the FruTrip Planner. * Locate Fruheads geographically near you. While I put the finishing touches on the site, I'm in need of one thing: a good logo for it. Hence, I'm announcing a contest. To the person who submits the best logo, I will send you CDs of any Fruvous show I've taped. See www.dc-adnet.com/joshw/trade/ for a list. Now, the guidelines: * Simplicity is good! The site has a no-nonsense layout. * The image should be around 225 pixels wide and 100 pixels tall, and say "Fruhead.Com" in the foreground. Working in a background "FHDC" wins bonus points. * The image should be as small in terms of bytes as possible. * Either original artwork or well-used Fruvous clipart is great. Entries must be submitted by (US) Independence Day (July 4th). E-mail joshw@fruhead.com with the logo or instructions on how to see it. The current image is at http://fruhead.com/images/logo.jpg if you want an idea. Good luck, and keep an eye here for future announcements! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@fruhead.com Web Site and Tape List: http://www.fruhead.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 1999 06:38:09 GMT From: aprestin@ccs.neu.garbage.edu Subject: Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? The Toolman wrote: : On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:19:49 -0400, Frances Meale : pondered for a while, and then wrote: :>Hi, :>Is it just me, or did anyone else notice that during "Gulf War Song" (if :>i recall correctly), performed during the Hot Harmonies session at the :>Rainbow stage, someone's voice (I think it was Jian's) :>cracked...twice.... Does this happen often, and if so, is that the :>reason no one has mentioned it yet? Excuse the run on sentence. :>FM : The monitor mix was bad..in other words, he either couldn't hear : himself or the other members, or the mix was soo loud that he couldn't : distinguish his voice to be certain he was on pitch. If you noticed, : on several occasions he had his hand to his ear..this allows a singer : to hear more clearly what he/she is singing (because it makes the : entire head a resonating plane..try it yourself..put on loud music and : try to sing along..then press one finger into one ear and sing : again..hear the difference?) I noticed that, and he also asked the sound man (I couldn't see if it was Cal or not; probably not) specifically once for more of his mic in the monitor he was in front of. He shook his head in disgust a few seconds later, as if there still wasn't enough of his mic there. : This is a rather frequent problem when mics are shared by different : artists..what is a good mix for one group of voices is almost never a : good mix for another group. They had to keep calling out the numbers on the mics too, for the sound man. : All in all, we had a tremendous time at both stages, and watching all : the bands perform..but I thought the sound could have been a tad : better..but it's REALLY hard to get a proper mix outside...so I guess : I can't blame them too much. Another thing that *couldn't* have been helpful, *especially* during an acapella song, was that there was another show going on on the stage over the hill a few hundred feet away. I could hear echoes from it from where I was sitting (in the front row, incidentally). I'm sure it was even more distracting for the performers onstage. I'm impressed the song came out sounding as good as it did, given all the problems with the sound and everything else. - - A.P. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:28:58 GMT From: sittin'onthecouch@home.com (The Toolman) Subject: Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:19:49 -0400, Frances Meale pondered for a while, and then wrote: >Hi, >Is it just me, or did anyone else notice that during "Gulf War Song" (if >i recall correctly), performed during the Hot Harmonies session at the >Rainbow stage, someone's voice (I think it was Jian's) >cracked...twice.... Does this happen often, and if so, is that the >reason no one has mentioned it yet? Excuse the run on sentence. >FM The monitor mix was bad..in other words, he either couldn't hear himself or the other members, or the mix was soo loud that he couldn't distinguish his voice to be certain he was on pitch. If you noticed, on several occasions he had his hand to his ear..this allows a singer to hear more clearly what he/she is singing (because it makes the entire head a resonating plane..try it yourself..put on loud music and try to sing along..then press one finger into one ear and sing again..hear the difference?) This is a rather frequent problem when mics are shared by different artists..what is a good mix for one group of voices is almost never a good mix for another group. I also noticed that there was a tremendous amount of reverb from the PA when the boys (I can call 'em that..I'm older than they are!) were performing at Hot Harmonies...I don't know why, but it is a manual control on the PA and really shouldn't have been there. Usually this would have been picked up by the sound engineer and cleaned up, but since they were so far from the stage (near the Grand Willow), it's possible that they didn't notice. (I thought it was kinda sloppy, myself..but since they didn't hire me for the job...) All in all, we had a tremendous time at both stages, and watching all the bands perform..but I thought the sound could have been a tad better..but it's REALLY hard to get a proper mix outside...so I guess I can't blame them too much. Fondest Frügards, Tim & Co. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:02:24 GMT From: Ellen Ellen Watermelon Subject: Re: The Vault show! (very long) a few random comments to add... first, reading back over lawrence's setlist, i'm at a loss to explain why, but for at least the first half of the show, i kept *waiting* for something to happen. i know that sounds odd. the songs were good, everything was tight and flowed pretty well... but it all seemed just a little too mellow for a thursday evening in baltimore. there was no string of songs that got everyone dancing. it seemed that every time the crowd got pumped up, they'd switch back to something mellower. sometime around Sad Girl or so, i started thinking, "ok, they need to play something that rocks, and soon." Laika followed by KoS then Tureen and Saucep'n were exactly what was needed. remember dave's comment from VB about deadheads and PTT? it occurred to me as i listened to the 3/97 Iron Horse show yesterday that PTT is very often followed by Johnny Saucep'n. i've decided that this is because they all have the munchies after PTT. there was quite a bit of good banter. In article , Lawrence P Solomon wrote: > from River Valley to Get in the Car to Psycho Killer, although the they made this hippiechick very happy last night by giving me my long- awaited River Valley. yay! > intro to Psycho Killer was again interrupted by random noise and > chatter, and everything quieted down for the first verse and, i might add, jian looked *pissed* that all those people kept yelling stuff. this is the first show i've ever been to where i really noticed any obnoxious-drunk types. those minutes when they were trying to start Psycho Killer were a little tense. every time things would settle a bit, and jian looked ready to start again, someone else would yell something and people would laugh and he'd step back from the mic and look irritated. there seemed to be a lot of crowd chatter last night. i don't get it. there were a good chunk of people who cheered when jian asked how many had never seen fruvous before, but the crowd seemed to be really into the show. and yet during quieter moments, there would be this underlying buzz of sound and i'd see people carrying on conversations behind and to the side of me. what the hell did these people pay $12 to see a band for if they weren't interested enough to listen? sorry. rant, rant. peace, ellen *************************************************** If only I'd thought of the right words... 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Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:10:57 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Vault Show (not really a review) well, the other reviewers did wonderfully :). setlist, setlist, setlist. a nice mix of new and old, with the soon-to-be-infamous version of "when she talks" recorded at the bar. for those who were there and were confused as to his motives for this, i remind you of the 11.9.98 show at the vault when the staff decided that "fly" was fantastic accompaniment for clearing tables of empty bottles. twice during that song on that night the crash of bottles into table-clearing-bins was heard. well, the staff kept in the same vein last night, instead choosing "when she talks." jian had sung the first line of the song when the fated crash occured. he shook his head, and said "i can't do this like this . . . no, really . . ." he stopped and the other guys continued. jian walked to the edge of the stage and called someone over to ask them to ask the bar to be quiet. apparently he was directed to the bar itself, which is where he went. as he was asking them (or telling them - i wasn't close enough to know), dave said "why don't you sing it from the bar?" (the others had kept up their parts the entire time). so jian asked for his mic, which dave performed a stretching feat to give him, and jian did the song from the area just to the right of the stage. i ran over and automatically hit the button of my camera twice, letting two big, giant, bright flashes rip. bleh. "he's gonna kick my ass," i said. "yeah, he is," said lori. jian handed the mic stand to kim from rochester just before the last verse and headed through the audience over to the stage-left stairs. for my part, i have to say that this wasn't one of my favorites. the crowd was fairly rude and surly, and the guys seemed a little low-energy. jian especially seemed incredibly aggravated. okay, he *was* incredibly aggravated. unfortunately, it was partially my fault :(. someone had bought the guys a round of something the club was touting as "frü-juice." i raised my camera to take a picture of jian taking his shot, and he gulped it, threw the cup down, looked at me, waved his hands "no," and made a gesture which i interpreted to mean "ten" (you know, when someone is communicating a number with their hands and flash their fingers . . . anyway). i figured he was warning me against the frü-juice. turns out he was alerting me to the fact that something on my camera was blinking. only in the diner after the show did i realize it was the red-eye reduction light. and it was freakin' bright. d'oh. usually when i piss off the band, i'm doing it intentionally :). so, jian, if you're reading this, i feel like a bonehead and am sincerely sorry. the *one* time i actually take pictures . . . :) the crowd got pretty ridiculous during the opening of "psycho killer." some choice lines: FEMALE VOICE: murray, we love you. MALE VOICE: no, he's mine! MALE VOICE: baltimore/DC rivalry song! argh. oh well. afterward we stood around for a full forty minutes before deciding to check the downstairs lounge and lo and behold, there they were. i gave jian his birthday present (the script of 'into the woods') and he made me feel really bad about the camera - but hugged me, so i guess it's all okay. i then stood around for a while longer before deciding that murray wasn't going to come out and get his present (a book of selected edna st. vincent millay poems), so i gave it to tobey to deliver. not five minutes later, who walks out :)? he came over to where anna, mindy, donna, sarah, and i were standing and talked with us for a while. the conversation ranged from the semi-nude mural on the wall of anna's new house (which she's *not* allowed to paint over, per her landlord) to murray's lint, "dandruff," and dirty shirt and the way all looked under black light to famous people we went to high school with. at one point he growled at mindy and his glowing teeth scared the hell out of her. i made fun of his beer when he handed it to me to hold as he signed christy's 'b album' (hempen gold? what the hell is hempen gold?). it was a fun conversation altogether :). the night ended with an obligatory trip to the paper moon diner in hampden (tobey, though invited, couldn't attend because the crew was staying outside the city). i waltzed into my house as my sister and dad were leaving for work and mom was leaving for school at 6 AM. so i'm going back to bed. so there :). ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:40:33 GMT From: Swoop-Dot-Loop Subject: Review: 6-24-99, The Vault (Long long long) Two Bald Daves for the Price of One Review, 6-24-99, The Vault Baltimore, MD Reviewer's Note: Other people have posted reviews, mine, as usual, is different. I tried not to repeat what others have already said, but that'll teach me not to write up first thing in the morning. :) A random thought I had as I sat on the MARC train between DC's Union Station and Baltimore's Penn Station: I wonder if you could travel between DC and Boston using commuter trains? I'm not sure why anybody would want to do such a thing, but that's what I was thinking about as I made my way to the Vault to see Fruvous. Found Ellen and her spiffy new haircut in line already, she was talking to Mindy, Anna and Donna. We waited in line, waited waited waited, but the doors opened fairly early. Two Seventeen Magazine-looking blonds were up at the front telling the door-guy they were on the guest list. They were vaugely petulant, clearly put-out when told they would have to wait. They didn't look like the rest of us--they wore makeup and didn't look tired. The sight of them depressed me, because I knew I was pale, tired and covered in cat fur. It shouldn't have mattered, but it did. Sorry to anybody I snapped at; Lori and Jen, I know I snapped at both of you. Guess I was in a mood. The ads for this show informed us that some guy named Dave was opening. I have to admit that I wasn't expecting much, and perhaps that added to my enjoyment. He gave a terrific performance, and I'll definitely go see his band, Laughing Colors. (For any DC area people not going up to Ft. Erie, LC is playing at the Freedom Festival downtown July 4th.) He started by asking if we liked country music. Some people in the crowd cheered, and he said that he hated it, but that he'd written some just for us. He proceeded to play a song the refrain of which started "she may be my cousin, but she's also my bride." He kept the crowd in the palm of his hand the whole time, and was generous in praising our willingness to open up to a totally new act. My favorite moment was when he said he had an old one for us to sing along with, at which point he broke into an old Juicy Fruit gum jingle, "The taste is gonna move ya!" He stuck to original material for the most part, his songs are catchy and topical. "TheWar on Drugs" includes the refrain "Whatever happened to sex, drugs and rock-n-roll? All we've got now is AIDS, crack and techno." He worked verses from Sublime's "What I Got" into that song. He also chose to cover the Beastie Boys "Paul Revere." One voice and an acoustic guitar. Cool. We had noted before Dave T's set that the crowd seemed small, smaller than last year's Vault show, but by the time Fruvous took the stage, the club had filled up. Splatter is a nice opener, high energy, good way to get things started. Just reinforced my thought that Splatter is like Michigan Militia, which works well in the beginning and near the end of a set. I have a feeling I'll get tired of hearing this one, but for now it's fairly fresh and entertaining. Darlington is one of my favorite tracks from Bargainville, and one I always enjoy live. They seemed to be playing fast, but it may have just been my impression. I'm not sure how well I like Splatter and Darlington together, though. Indy is probably my favorite of Murray's songs, the keyboard line is tinged with melancholy and perfectly mirrors the lyric. Like the rest of the songs that will be on Thornhill, it sounds smoother than it did before they went into the studio. I noticed more of a crescendo in the keyboard near the end, but it may be that I was just noticing it for the first time. It worked, whether it was new or not. If Only was probably the wrong choice to follow Indy. It worked better in Baltimore than in Virgina Beach because of the positioning early in the show, but I can't help thinking that Half as Much would have been a better fit in this setlist. I like If Only, it's a nice, well-crafted song, but I find myself agreeing with the folks who said it was just too personal to do it every night. I wonder if it's becoming rote for Mike and that's what I'm hearing. As Lawrence mentioned, no intro to Kids. As a matter of fact, there was surprisingly little between-song chatter, though there was a lot of banter. There was a long chatter break, during which Murray dedicated his show to all "his people," because the monitor blocked their view of him. (Silly Murray's People, y'all should realize that some of the best Murray watching is from Stage Dave. ;) ) Tonight I noted that Mur looks at his fingers while he plays on some songs. Jian got the idea to sing When She Talks from the bar because Dave said "Ji, sing it from the bar." The upset did add some interest to the song. I'm happy to report that the bottle clinking stopped, it was also a problem at the Vault show last November. Horseshoes, nice guitar from Dave, but I'd love to have the keyboard back. It was about this time when Dave went into a zone, playing with a driving energy. This turned out to be a good thing, as Dave sang lead on eight songs from that point out. Too Careful followed, with a few new backing vocals and more guitar noodling that wasn't there the last time I heard it. Laika was next, tight version, and I hadn't heard it since Northampton. Nice electric from Dave near the end, I kept thinking he was going to break into a jam. Mike's vocal was right on. I am almost never happy to hear King any more, but tonight was a little different. The intro to the intro was different, in fact, Jian seemed to be mocking that whole section. Mike introduced "TV's Chatterbox Phil Donahue, the King of Spain" then Dave came in, again wearing the MF fishing hat. "King, why are you such a chatterbox? There's a hat on your head! Chatterbox!" Nice conversation break at "Are you curious?" Dave started in about the smell of curiosity, how he could smell it wafting up from the crowd, but it was a pleasant smell. Then he toyed with the Stanley Cup postcard-stand-up thing that somebody left on stage, and remarked that he was trying to "clear all that stuff off his Fucking Holiday Inn desk. " There was more energy from the band on last night's King than I've seen in a while, it was refreshing. When Jian mentioned Dave Tieff's set, Murray said that they liked him so much they decided they needed a bald Dave in their band, so they made Dave Matheson shave his head a few minutes before the show. Dave responded "Oh, was he bald?" Jian came back with "Glad you enjoyed his set." Tureen>Saucep'n followed. Fairly standard, though I think the loudest cheer of the night came for Saucep'n. It was tight, but it should be. IWHO was an odd choice to follow this, but the evening was full of odd pairings. The amount of conversation in the audience was very annoying, as others have commented. My Poor Generation was looser than I've ever heard it. There was more of Mike on the vocal toward the end, and Dave experimented a little with the acoustic. The crowd wasn't all that into the song, but I was. Count me among the strongest MPG supporters, though I think it works better a little further into the set. River Valley was the perfect follow, very smooth, it worked despite the difference in tempo, the right into Get in the Car, just as smooth, but raucous. A nice way to lead up to the closer, in the always leave them wanting more school of thought. Looks like the way to get a great Psycho Killer is to piss off Jian. it took forever to start the song since people kept shouting and laughing. One guy said 'Let's make this a DC/Baltimore rivalry song.' As they say, Don't Be That Guy. Once he got started, Jian's vocal on the first verse was dangerously soft, which made the contrast with the "don't touch me I'm a real live wire" even more shocking. Dave and Mike rocked on the guitars. Dave was making funny faces, still in his zone. Maybe he should wear the dots-and-flowers on rayon more often. After looking at the buttons for a while, I determined that the shirt was, indeed, manufactured for a guy to wear. Boggles the mind. Encores Authors was pretty standard, except that Mike and Murray switched places. Mur burned up Michigan, although I could hear the banjo on the right-hand side of the stage. I was happy with the bass line. The sing-along on Drinking was especially strong. It was interesting to watch Dave's face during the song, he was clearly reacting to it, in a very different way than Jian does, much quieter. For a few moments I felt like I was watching something I wasn't supposed to be watching. Of course, I'm always watching people who aren't necessarily in the spotlight, so there you go. After the guys left the stage, the sounds of the KOS remix filled the room, and people stuck around dancing. A lot of people went downstairs, where it was very smoky and lint showed up on my black dress, on the other hand, my legs looked tanned for the first time ever. I mentioned to a person who was taping that I was glad somebody had taped the show, she responded 'why? I didn't think it was very good,' which bugged me a little, though I've had that happen with this person before, I think she and I must have entirely different things that make for a good show. This one had energy to spare. When the band is having a good time, I have a good time. It's really pretty simple. Yes, the songs could have been positioned better, but it was nice to hear Laika and River Valley, and I really enjoyed MPG. I found the whole thing refreshing. The best way to put it is that I spent the second half of the set wavering the edge of a zone where I'm completely into the music. I don't always get to that place at Fruvous shows, but it's a good place to be. It was weird to be almost there, but not a bad weird. I rode back to DC with the person IWHO calls to mind most of the time. We listened to Van Morrison and I drifted off to sleep until he woke me to ask where he should turn to get to my place. Quiet is a good thing sometimes, and music always is. - --Amanda "I will lash out dancing like a madman when you're gone..." Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:54:11 GMT From: 987654321@ikot.com Subject: We'll pay your bills! Would you let US pay your mortgage payment? I'm very serious! I not only want to pay your mortgage payment BUT also your utilities, credit card payments, automobile loan payments, other loan payments...darn near any kind of debt you might have! BEST OF ALL--you don't have to pay us back...EVER! It's EASY...It WORKS...It's REAL... I'll prove it to you if you Click the link below...I'll RUSH all the details to you. CLICK HERE>>> mailto:listserv@skoot.com?subject=Pay_My_Bills Thanks and God Bless YOU! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:42:01 GMT From: gneiss@my-deja.com Subject: Re: OT: Susan Werner In article <19990624221354.09647.00000709@ng-fg1.aol.com>, luckydabed@aol.com.la.deda (Maria) wrote: > I think some people mentioned Susan opened for Moxy Fruvous. She happens to be > rolling into town in a few weeks, and I was wondering if anybody who has > "experienced" her can tell me if she's worth the money. Thanks! > > maria > > ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ > You are now officially Lucky Dabbed! > Consider yourself special! > "Ooooh, luckydab?!" > Susan Werner was the hit of the Philadelphia Folk Festival some years ago. She can be funny. She can also write heartbreakingly sad love songs. She is very different from Moxy Fruvous, but I hope you like her. She isn't zany-crazy; she shades more toward neurotic/insecure/intellectual crazy. She might put down her guitar and sing a French song at the piano. She might do impersonations of other musicians. I think she is wonderful. Will Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:28:40 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: huh? and how can you drink something that looks like water filtered through dirt? yech. ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:38:29 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Pardon my ignorance... one way to get it in recorded form is to trade for a copies of either the 10-30-98 or 10-31-98 shows (can't remember which it's on) or the 2.20.99 show (fruvous and friends for choice). cal plays it at the end of one of the noho shows and at the end of the lee's show. i was *incredibly* surprised to ehar it the other night--though i was tickled at the shrieking response it got from kim from rochester :). ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:35:41 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: total request live + Moxy from what i remember, they *did* play the video at one point, but didn't make it number one. i do know, though, that similar campaigns have been started for barenaked ladies and (i *think*) they might be giants, both collecting votes equalling those garnered by new kids, and both completely ignored. ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:33:48 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Clearwater: Did anyone notice? my evaluation of the situation was that jian was having trouble staying on pitch. he did the ptich-finding dance (holding his ear, shaking his head). the fact that he couldn't hear himself in the monitor and that there was a bit of noise pollution probably contributed to this. at any rate, he was very frustrated not only because he was having trouble, but because his trouble was throwing everyone else off. it just wasn't a good situation, i don't think. ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:31:12 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: OT: Susan Werner hey, i wouldn't put her so far off the mark from früvous. susan's songs cover a wide range of topics and use sly humor to communicate messages. she opened a couple of shows for früvous over frücon weekend and on sunday night joined them on stage to sing "summertime." they ended up in a jam which began with "you shook me all night ling" and ended on "it's a small world after all." in between they hit on alanis, disney, and john denver. *incredible*. some of us think she could be the fifth frü :). ~~kate - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:13:25 GMT From: jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: huh? On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:28:40 -0400, "KatieWow" wrote: >and how can you drink something that looks like water filtered through dirt? Or is that dirty filtered through water? Depends on how you like your coffee, I suppose... Neil, an iced mocha man Neil Bardhan: stage manager,tape trader,CTY Nevermore,Libertarian,and nice guy http://www.servtech.com/~jbardhan/ Smile at every person you see ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #526 ********************************************