From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #518 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, June 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 518 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: another reminder about the Fruvous Lit Mag ^_^ [trace@frumail.org (Tr] Re: Jian's VA Beach setlist [Ellen Ellen Watermelon ] Review: 6.22.99, Virginia Beach, VA [Swoop-Dot-Loop ] Re: New album info? [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: New album info? [Jacey7@aol.com] Re: New album info? [Jacey7@aol.com] Re: New album info? [Nate DeRose ] Re: some positivity for a change [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: New album info? [Bridget ] Re: Review: 6.22.99, Virginia Beach, VA [Bridget ] Re: Austin Powers connection to Fruvous [Rachel Barreca ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:26:58 GMT From: trace@frumail.org (Trace) Subject: Re: another reminder about the Fruvous Lit Mag ^_^ On 23 Jun 1999 09:55:22 GMT, fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) wrote: >Hey "Stalker Chick from NJ"! Send me an Arrogant Worms story! Like . . .maybe >. . . Florida? I can edit if you want. Ok, I can handle that, well the condensed version anyway. One order of Worms coming up :) > >Angie, wanna share your FruBars receipe? Lori, how about those brownie things? > Of course, both should include a short blurb about their presentation to the >Band or reception by fans. Ooooh...we can submit recipes too? I'll submit my white chocolate, macadamia nut cookies recipe. They helped me get "re-stamped" after I lost my Frumiles card :) I'll need a week to get everything together too.. - -- Trace trace@frumail.org AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:40:41 GMT From: Ellen Ellen Watermelon Subject: Re: Jian's VA Beach setlist In article <19990623.110734.-257595.2.SHAZALINREA@juno.com>, Mindy J Munson wrote: > Message > Sahara > Horse > When > Pisco > King > Green > Booty > Sad > Splatter > If Only > Tureen (got a lil flubbed) > Sauce > ASH!(for which Anna, and I got stares of "what the hell kind of hash are > *they* on" =+) > Author > Car > Psycho > ~~~~~~~~ > not written on Ji's set but on murrays (now annas) was the encore also missing YWGTTM, which was somewhere beginning-ish. peace, ellen (well, it *was* the nocturnal cafe) *************************************************** If only I'd thought of the right words... Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:04:16 GMT From: CintiBud Subject: New album info? Hi FruFans! I don't hang out here that much anymore, but still check in regularly. I found the info below on the Launch webpage about the new album. I was sure this was old info, but a quick search of the ng and FDC did not show the tracks listed. I can't believe that I'm the first posting this, so please forgive me if this is old news. Anyway, check the link below to see what Launch has to say. If the lengthy URL doesn't work, just try www.launch.com and do a search on moxy fruvous (duh!) http://www.launch.com/SS/album/fs_AlbumPage/1,1124,,00.html?destTarget=% 2FSS%2Falbum%2FAlbumContainer%2F0%2C1111%2C328002%2C00%2Ehtml To summarize, here the tracks they listed as being on the album. Does anybody know if this is indeed correct? Bud Chavez 1. Half As Much 2. Sad Girl 3. You Can't Be Too Careful 4. I Will Hold On 5. Earthquakes 6. When She Talks 7. Splatter Splatter 8. Independence Day 9. Downsizing 10. Hate Letter 11. If Only You Knew 12. My Poor Generation Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:01:16 GMT From: Swoop-Dot-Loop Subject: Review: 6.22.99, Virginia Beach, VA The Lure of the Open Road Review -- 6.22.99, The Nocturnal Cafe at the Abyss Virginia Beach, VA *yawn* This is as good a time as any to mention that the floor on the front passenger side of Ellen's Subaru is littered with directions to Fruvous gigs. I'm the navigator and swapper of CDs. A while back we got the idea that it would be a good thing to take part of a day off work to go to the Fruvous show in Virginia Beach. Ellen tried to convince a few others of this, but it ended up not working; most people are more committed to their jobs and so forth. Hell, even I thought about bailing. I'm ever so glad we made the effort. We both knew this was going to be a hellish drive, so we stopped in Fredricksburg, about 70 miles out of DC, and dropped our junk at a hotel and changed out of work clothes. From there, we went to a Denny's to grab some hot food. Note to self: when ordering eggs with stuff in them, always remember to double check for alien things such as gravy in the list of stuff. It's always there, but you never see it until it's too late. Shudder. The drive between Fredricksburg and Virginia Beach is unremarkable; indeed, the only wrinkle came when I misread the instructions and saw "284" as "248," leading us to believe we had missed our exit some 40 exits back. I didn't say I was a *good* navigator. (Actual concert info starts here, for those keeping score.) We got to the venue about 8:15, but the doors were late opening, which would be a theme for the evening. After we got our wrist bracelets identifying us as Legal to Drink, we paid our $5 and went inside. The place was really dark and really small, but not cramped. Two TVs showed _Men in Black_ with the sound down. We talked to Tobey for a bit, looked at the new tees, wondered why Cal wasn't puttering around, and snagged the table closest to the bathrooms, between Stage Mike and Dave, but at the same time, still managing to be Stage Jian. Oddly shaped stage, with lighting trees perched on either side. The walls appeared to be painted in several shades of blue, with early-60s inspired patterns. Later I decided to purchase a tee, ended up with the URL design in the burgundy. Of course, under the combo of black light and lights with colored gels, the burgundy looked alternately gray and purple. It was around this time that Tobey referred to me as a "Professional Fruhead." Busted. D'oh. The coolest thing about the lighting was that it made everybody look tanned. The long wait made us look rested and ready: I began to think it was in the contract that they didn't have to start playing until after _Men in Black_ had finished. Sure enough, a few minutes after the credits rolled, the opener took the stage. I wasn't expecting much, he was one guy with a guitar and he wasn't Dan Bern. He looked more like somebody's little brother. He introduced himself as "Gus, from LA" and started singing. The crowd kept chattering, but Gus wasn't at all ruffled. He won us over with the bird calls at the end of the first song, and by the time he closed with a spontaneous sing-along of the chorus of 'Leavin' on a Jet Plane' I was sold. The coolest moment with Gus was when an audience member called out the name of one of his songs when he said he was going to do one more. He asked how she knew that song, and she said she had his CD. He seemed genuinely surprised, almost shocked, and very happy so he played the song. Gus is a competent songwriter, decent guitarist and an engaging performer. He reminds me a bit of a young Peter Case, if Peter Case had done relationship songs. He seemed really pleased with the crowd, and he stayed to see the Fruvous set. Fruvous took the stage about 10:30, maybe 10:45, and the room filled up with welcome cheers from the crowd of roughly 80. "Wow, it's good to be back in a club," Jian started. I'd longed see Fruvous in a small place with a good crowd; I really thought I'd have to go out west someplace in order to find such a show, imagine getting such a gift in my home state. Wow. They began with Message, nice tight harmonies as usual. I hadn't heard it in a while, and it was like a breath of fresh air last night, though I had been getting tired of it last year. Sahara featured Dave's very nice electric guitar work. *swoon* There I go again. I didn't know the electric could make me swoon. Horseshoes with no keyboard. I admit that I prefer the song with the keys, but it was a nice, tight version. Jian sang that last "Look straight..." close to the mic rather than letting the audience take it. I think the audience could have done it, since it comes at the end of the song, and I'll tell you, from the "Jet Plane" chorus, it was clear that the audience could sing pretty well. I figured Moon would be included in the set because of the big moon figure hanging over the bar. I mean, duh. When the pitch pipe came out, we knew it was time. Mike introduced, very standard version except for Murray's beeping. Moon's a little tired at this point, IMO. When the guys came on, Mike seemed to be wearing one of Murr's shirts, and Jian sported some slacks he must have swiped from Greg Brady. Jian, apparently unaware that *gray* is this year's black, remarked that brown was coming back in style, and so was red, referring to his pants. Mike went off about Twiggy, and Murray proposed that "Mike's" shirt and Jian's pants were part of an "ensemble." He used the French pronunciation, but not a French accent, which I thought was cute for some reason that's lost on me. The word just tumbled out. In any case, they mentioned the new record, and August 10th to cheers, but I'm thankful to report that Jian left out the "big fans of August 10th" joke. When She Talks got a lukewarm response. I know I'm on record defending this song that many seem to dislike, but damn, the vocal needs work in the phrasing if it's ever going to really succeed. I understand what they lyrics are going for, but when the words are heard and not read, the words need help from the singer. Get with the program. Pisco is always fun, strudel/noodle bridge still there. I still didn't miss it, but it's bugging me a little less. "Lots of Americans" intro. King/Green got the crowd on its feet. King was the only song from Bargainville. (Can I get an AMEN?) Fairly standard. Dave came out wearing the Fruvous fishing hat, which made me smile. "Stars call me up." I shrugged violently at "are you curious about the epilogue?" but there were a lot of new-ish folks in the crowd who might actually have been curious, which was cool. I love the "short" GE&H for the bass line. Tonight's Not The Beatles break was funny: "How dare you insult the Beatles here in Virginia Beach, home of the World Famous Beatles Museum, even though it looks like a converted Subway with the yellow awning. How dare you insult Mike?" Jian started, and Mike went off on a Liverpudlian tear for almost a minute. "OK, so you haven't affected Mike one bit this time." Mr. Cheese shrugged and said "I don't like the Beatles." Boo/Sad/Splatter No, this wasn't a medley. It was nice to hear Boo Time instead of Minnie. Sad, I hate it less with the big keyboard. Splatter continues to improve with practice. I think this song is going to be a lot of fun, it still reminds me a little of Michigan Militia. Jian was on tonight with the conversation. When he thanked Gus for his set, he said "We want to say this while he's still here, so he can hear this..." and then trailed off a little. "Jesus...?" That might have been the moment of the show. Then he continued, intimating that Gus could score tonight with little or no effort, were he interested. Fruvous was effusive in its admiration of Gus, which was gratifying for the crowd that had recieved him so warmly. If Only was probably the weakest song of the night, it seemed slower, heavier than usual, as if Mike was tired. They had problems starting Tureen, so Jian suggested a little AC/DC to cleanse the palate. Dave broke out into a bluegrassed version of "You Shook Me All Night Long," which anybody who attended Fruvous and Friends for Choice '99 will recognize as a cornerstone of the Banjo Medley, then Dave dedicated Tureen to all the remaining Deadheads, saying this song had something they could relate to. Ellen, being one of them, was a little confused what the Present Tense Tureen has to do with the Dead, but we enjoyed it anyway. It dawned on me that this was, possibly, an admission that, yes indeed, the PTT just might be about, um, recreational pharmaceuticals. Recalling a months-ago intro in which Dave said that his mom asked if that song was about drugs and he denied it, I couldn't stop laughing. Just a personal note about Saucep'n: last night was the first time I got through the chorus. The second time I did most of it in one breath. That was kind of cool. Ash Hash was definitely the surprise of the evening. Dave told a little story as an introduction: "We were walking down the street today and a man asked if we were high on drugs. So I said 'As a matter of fact we're low on drugs. We were hoping you could set us up.' " The song itself was hysterical, though Jian commented that they'd screwed it up. Dave said he thought the songwriter would be very pleased with their rendition. It was about this time when he noted how the black light showed the lint on the clothes of various audience members, and "the Led Zepplin poster in the back." I'll admit that I turned around to look. Authors was tight: "my crucifiction." "Who needs a grave?" "She's a Good Shag" Improv > Get in the Car The improv part was one part Austin Powers (i.e. one part innuendo) and one part Disney. Mary Poppins and Unspeakable Acts were involved. Very freaky, but as I like to say, in a good way. Dave took it straight into Car, nicely done, always one of my favorite songs live. Psycho was the standard closer, I've heard better but that hardly matters. Standard 'thanks for coming out, new people' intro. I kind of wish he'd added an extra thanks for the regulars who hauled themselves from god-knows-where to Virginia Beach on a Tuesday night Encore: Before Michigan, Jian remarked that they'd done away with the tradition of taking a shower before the encore. Murray said they'd actually done it behind the amps, but were afraid of being observed. (Murray was quiet tonight, possibly in correlation to his unusually subdued attire, but he grinned almost the entire show.) Before IWHO, Jian asked for requests, then said they weren't going to play any of those songs. IWHO still gets me sometimes, last night was one of those times. Some of the backing vocals were back on this version, mostly from Dave. My Poor Generation, of course, I shouted out for this during the request period. Smug? Who me? As an intro, Dave asked if anybody had just graduated from HS or College, and whether those folks knew what they wanted to do with their lives. Most of them indicated they didn't, so Dave snarked that he felt safe with the future in their hands. I love this song and it works for me as a closer. It was a nice way to end this set. We chatted with Mary and Clare for a few minutes and then headed back to our hotel, some two hours away. As we drove along I-64 listening to Soul Coughing in the middle of the night, I watched the moon sink closer and closer to the horizon, getting bigger and darker as it went down. It was dark out there, the sky was salted with stars. That's something most people don't see from their bedroom windows at 2:30 a.m., and for me, it's part of the lure of the open road. - --Amanda, on 45 minutes sleep, a catnap and a coffee buzz - -- "How many times have I been wrong? Never. Well, not driving." Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:37:46 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: New album info? Jacey7 said: >>>10. Hate Letter<< > >hmm.. here's one I don't recognize... methinks it might be Grudge. :) - -- Lori > > ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Früvous/amm-f factoids galore (courtesy of Colleen Campbell): http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:18:37 GMT From: Jacey7@aol.com Subject: Re: New album info? >>10. Hate Letter<< hmm.. here's one I don't recognize... ~jen - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:43:14 GMT From: Jacey7@aol.com Subject: Re: New album info? And no Pisco? ;-( ~jen (who should really read things a little closer before posting on them...) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:53:47 -0400 From: Nate DeRose Subject: Re: New album info? CintiBud wrote: > To summarize, here the tracks they listed as being on the album. Does > anybody know if this is indeed correct? > > 1. Half As Much > 2. Sad Girl > 3. You Can't Be Too Careful > 4. I Will Hold On > 5. Earthquakes > 6. When She Talks > 7. Splatter Splatter > 8. Independence Day > 9. Downsizing > 10. Hate Letter > 11. If Only You Knew > 12. My Poor Generation I don't know if it's correct or not.. but I'm sure happy about it!!!!! It's got My Poor Generation.... one of my new favorite songs! (not just fruvous songs, mind you... but one of my favorites in GENERAL.) Independence Day and Downsizing are on there to.... and I LOVE those. And splatter splatter...which I also really love. I'm also really hoping the Windsor version of Earthquakes is the one that made the album....... I'm curious to see what "Hate Letter" might be..... how great to have a surprise track! Wohoo! nate (who is glad he doesn't see Grudge in there....) ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:35:25 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: some positivity for a change ellen ellen watermelon levitated and said: >in light of all the negativity and hard feelings swirling around here >recently, i thought i'd inject a little levity. > >since saturday marks the anniversary of my first fruvous show, i've been >thinking of the startlingly large number of shows i've made it to this >year. How interesting -- I was thinking the same thing this morning; my anniversary was June 6. It really is astonishing that so much related to this band I looked into on a whim -- because they were playing a festival some enthusiastic college kids happened to walk into work bearing promo flyers for, and I thought "what the hell, sounds like fun, I like most of these people and I've never seen most of them live" -- has pretty much taken over my life. Between twenty-odd shows, and building significant friendships with some fans, and spending a heckuva lot of time reading everyone's observations and responding with my own, and planning a good chunk of my summer around getting together with y'all for various gigs and celebrations, it's been quite rewarding. Even if I *do* get really strange looks now and again for involving myself in an international community comprised mainly of hippies and geeks, for being perfectly willing to meet and trust people from a small pocket of Usenet, for being unpredictable and unordinary and most emphatically not doing what I'm "supposed" to do given who others think I am. Doesn't even bother me anymore -- what a change! >enough that i even feel jaded now and again, i.e. when i think of >hearing one more King'o'Spam. but then i hear it live, and most of the >time, it's still pretty damn good. I just view it as, the "sane" fans who don't go to 20+ shows a year deserve to hear it too. If we were fans of a mainstream band -- if we saw maybe 3 shows a year -- if we were this crazy about the Who, and waited for them to come to our town and laid out huge bucks for tickets and *didn't* hear My Generation, we'd be disappointed. I get tired of KOS too, and a few other "staples", but I think it's a case of familiarity breeding, if not contempt, a little jaded complacency on our parts. >and *then* i hear something like I >Will Hold On, and i melt into a puddle on the floor, no matter how many >times i've heard it before. [1] yes, the magic is still going strong. >it's been a pretty cool year listening to this band. > >so, with that in mind, here are my Top Ten Favorite Things I've >Discovered Since (and Because Of) Discovering Fruvous: >feel free to add if you like. I will further below, for continuity's sake :), but for now back to IWHO: >[1] i hereby and offically declare that i am a Great Big SUCKER for this >song. i hate to disagree with the songwriter about what it conveys-- >that generally makes one look like a moron-- but if he was going for >obssession, or an unhealthy kind of attachment, i don't really hear it in >the song. i mostly hear sweet, warm things that make me think, "why >aren't people more considerate to each other in general? why is it so >weird to hear someone say they'll do whatever it takes to keep love alive >and kicking?" I agree. It is sweet, and caring, and while it *could* be viewed as uncomfortable, if the person being addressed truly wants no further relationship, I think that discomfort would come less from the statements being made than from hangups or ambivalence that person might have about expressing clearly what he/she wants. Narrator seems to recognize that the other person is at a crossroads, and is offering whatever kind of support in whatever way it's needed, albeit laced with considerable confusion because the other person seems not to know what he/she needs either. Furthermore I most emphatically DON'T think the song is necessarily limited to a troubled romantic relationship. To me IWHO is about anyone about whom you care deeply -- a child, a parent, a friend, or yes a lover too -- but for whatever reason you may not be in sync with them at the moment. You don't want to stifle them -- you want them to find their way -- but you certainly don't want them to think that because you recognize and try not to infringe on their need for space or freedom, it means you don't care or aren't invested. Hence the hold-on-hold-off dilemma, the offers of whatever is needed without any insistence that there be a response. You hope you're not holding on too tightly, but you don't want to just let go by walking away either. It's a fine balance between being a caring part of someone's life and being a pain in the ass -- or, alternately, between letting them move on in the way they need vs. letting go way too easily, at the first rough patch. Literally everytime I hear IWHO, someone different pops into my mind. *sigh* Lori's List of Things Früvous Has Injected into, or Revived in, Her Life: 5) A sense of the absurd and joyous for its own sake -- wordplay, whimsy, banter and deranged, somewhat manic silliness. 4) Literature -- exploring anew the whole Authors list, plus Tom Robbins, John Irving, David Sedaris, Dorothy Parker, and a bunch of others recommended by the denizens of this ng. 3) Interest not just in listening to music, but in attempting to make it -- something I haven't pursued since junior high school. 2) Animated, insightful, usually respectful debates on topics ranging from animal rights to Murray's pants. Which leads to ... 1) Several of you folks. Seriously. If you think i might mean you specifically -- I do. A few of you are far closer to me, far more tuned into me and vice versa, through occasional meetings and correspondence, than a lot of the people I see regularly, the people from my "real life". And that's precisely why some of those "real life" people are so suspicious and derisive of this little jones I have going for amm-f and for gigs I'll travel hours to - -- not just to see the shows, but to hang out with people I either already know I like, people I really miss after not having seen them for several weeks or months, or others I haven't met yet, but I'm fairly certain I'll have a blast with them in any case, and may find potential for more than a music-based acquaintance as well. The truly wonderful thing about Früvous and Früfans is that lately -- like, since New Year's -- the experience goes so far beyond the music. Which is not to dis the lads at all -- because they've been instrumental in building this community, and by and large, despite some rough patches and conflicts and misunderstandings and misconceptions and hurt feelings, it's a good one, with lots of good people. Boy, was that a big fat mushy love letter or what? :) - -- Lori the hopelessly sentimental fool **************** I'll hold you if you feel you'll fall i'll hold your hand if you just need a friend i'll hold the line so you can call I'll hold the feelings you don't want to have you know that it's true, when I hold you there'll be no secrets I believe it ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:24:34 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: New album info? > >>>10. Hate Letter<< > > > >hmm.. here's one I don't recognize... > > > methinks it might be Grudge. :) oh, i hadn't thought of that!! i hope i hope... i wasn just sitting here bemoaning the fact that there's only ONE murray song on the new album!! === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Dave's banjo, Mike's artwork, and Murray's a great guy!!" ~Jian, 6/16/99 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:27:40 GMT From: Bridget Subject: Re: Review: 6.22.99, Virginia Beach, VA >Before IWHO, Jian asked for requests, then >said they weren't going to >play any of those songs. IWHO still gets >me sometimes, last night was >one of those times. Some of the backing >vocals were back on this >version, mostly from Dave. oh thank goodness for the backing vocals (my favorite part of the song)!!! i was really really really missing those... === over 'n' out xoxoxo bridget "Dave's banjo, Mike's artwork, and Murray's a great guy!!" ~Jian, 6/16/99 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 23 Jun 1999 19:01:06 GMT From: Rachel Barreca Subject: Re: Austin Powers connection to Fruvous Joshua Doell Drury wrote: > Hmmm, small town in Toronto... I believe he was born in Scarborough, just to > the, uh, west of T.O. (correct me if that's wrong), and Scarborough may or may > not be part of "megacity", formerly many smaller cities that are now one. I > think also (and I may be wrong on this one, too) that while scarborough is in > fact a town as opposed to a city, it's not small -- it's the larget town in > Canada, with a population over over 150 000. Um, it is much larger than a small town, YES. However, if Scarborough's population is over 150 000, it still doesn't make it the largest town in Canada. I don't know who that distinction goes to (how does one define "town" anyway?), but one would think that Mississauga (with a population at 500 000+) would be in the running. :) Actually, when I think about it, both would be cities, not towns. That would mean they would be in the same category as Toronto, which IS the largest city in Canada. Well, there you go. :) - -- Rachel the moxy woman, CCC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FREELANCE BROADCASTER ~ "Scully and Mulder - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ brave, beautiful and good." Coordinator - NOT YOUR AVERAGE SUNDAY~ 613-520-2600 x8926 ~ -review of episode 6X03, Senior Resident - LANARK HOUSE ~ "TRIANGLE"- CARLETON UNIVERSITY, Ottawa, Canada ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:58:11 GMT From: Swoop-Dot-Loop Subject: Re: New album info? In article <7kr9rv$etg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Jacey7@aol.com wrote: > And no Pisco? ;-( Call me a heretic, I know some will, but I'm glad they left Pisco off. For one thing, it doesn't fit with the rest of the material on the album; for another, I think it's a good idea to have songs that are just for live shows. I like Pisco quite a bit, it's one of the more fun numbers they do, but I think you have to look at the overall cohesiveness of an album rather than just throwing songs together to see what sticks, as it were. BTW, it's just a wild guess, but maybe Hate Letter is a revamped version of Grudge. Or maybe it's something to be I Won't Hold On. - --Amanda, delurking for a few days Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #518 ********************************************