From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #498 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, June 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 498 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Town [jimcc] Re: lets be happy that patrick came along [trace@frumail.org (Trace)] RE: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow ["Vokes] For the love of Pete (which I think would be a great band name) [petit_ch] Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow [dopeyt] RE: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow [acaia7] Re: boulder show review - the non-violent approach [Jacey7@aol.com] Re: criticism in general (attn: patrick) [firedancer ] Welcomes and for Carey and Jude and Thanks to Y [skystar117@aol.co] Re: Paul & Andrea's Appel Farm pictures [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] Re: Austin Powers Moxy connection [Joshua Doell Drury ] Ann Arbor shows [nogami@egr.msu.edu] Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG) [Tom Salyers ] Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions [truztno1 wrote: >dont you think that this mightve been a learning experience for us at the ammf? i mean, sure, patrick may or may not be a fruhead, but he at least has the open-mindedness to think about the lyrics! maybe since we all (myself included) are held in such thrall by our four heroes, we feel insulted ourselves when theyre lyrics are insulted. without somebody critisising lyrics, there would only BE bad lyrics. they'd all degenerate. not in fruvous or other bands of today, but that in future generations the bar for good lyrics will get lower and lower. by telling us about the lyrics, fruvous will hear about it somehow, and then they will look at some of theyre own potential lyrics for future songs, look them over, and possibly make improvements that make the song better. you never know. just to be honest, i am a true blue fruhead trying to see this impartially. im having alot of trouble so im probably wrong on alot of points. just try and give patrick a bit o' credit, k? ! h! >e probably knew he would get dumped on for this. Of course. For the record, allow me to state that I don't have a problem with anyone questioning lyrics. Patrick's tone was a bit negative, but I could've overlooked that. As a matter of fact, I did overlook that on one occasion when I replied to his lyrics post. The biggest problem for me was his insistence on making snide comments about the fans, or in other words, about us. In the long run, those comments devalued any stregnth or meaning in the content of his lyric criticism. If he loses the sarcasm and posts constructively, I will read and respond to his posts just as I will anyone elses. If not, I will ignore his posts and choose not to dignify them with a reply. He is certainly free to post whatever he chooses. It is his right. But if he'd like positive, well-considered replies, it is probably a good idea to stop insulting those who read and reply to the posts. I don't see it as a matter of free speech so much as a matter of tact, diplomacy and common sense. - -- Trace trace@frumail.org AMM-F: You must be this insane to ride ----- - -Veronica J Gruneberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:57:51 GMT From: "Vokes, Laurie" Subject: RE: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow John Prine was very good! As is Lucinda Williams, Black 47, and Shane McGowan (and that's if he is coherant...) ps. don't miss VanMorrison (Elvis comes out and does a duet with him) - -----Original Message----- From: skystar117@aol.comPHAEDRUS [mailto:skystar117@aol.comPHAEDRUS] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 11:24 AM To: ammf@fruvous.com Subject: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Town So I'm planning to check out both east coast FFs' and I'm just now thinking about seeing, *gasp* _OTHER_ acts there, besides Fruvous, Elvis, Jonh Lee Hooker and VM....I've heard a bunch of different acts being mentioned here, but haven't been keeping notes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other Must See groups? Chill, thanks;) - -debs "All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." -Louis Armstrong "Let the moonlight take the lid off your dreams"-BF5 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:07:57 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: For the love of Pete (which I think would be a great band name) Hey Tom, where'd that phrase come from anyway? I can't find my Hog On Ice... Anywho. Folks. I've been reading every single post diligently, which is unusual. Why, you may ask? Because this place is like one of those When Animals Attack videos. It's pandemonium. It's very informative to see how people react in the face of adversity, but also a little saddening. Patrick hasn't posted in forever (I sure hope he didn't leave on account of insults being slung at him), and the fight goes on, as jen pointed out (I think it was jen). Here's the meat of the matter: A ton of our own ranks are turning against one another. Tension is running high and adrenaline is pumping, and suddenly we're in the middle of Hate Fest '99. No, I'm not being extreme. Have you noticed the severe increase of insulting, name-calling, and total lack of understanding around this joint? I'm sorry that this all started with one guy, cause now he's being blamed for a lot of animosity that's directed at other people (did that make sense?). Please don't interpret my position and this post as being high and mighty and above all this -- I've just tried to take a step back and look in as an observer (notice, only two posts in several days from me). I just think it's a crying shame that we can't seem to settle down. Far be it from me to jump into the placating-role, but I just think we need to be aware of our heightened levels of anger and touchiness and take it into account before posting. One of the good things about this newsgroup was that it was so tolerant - -- we could have seriously heated debates about religion and pets and vegetarianism and whatnot, and people were still friendly. I hope we can regain that tolerance. Heather Moore, feeling like someone should take this damned olive branch out of her mouth right now. Holden Caufield sez: "Women kill me. They really do. I don't mean I'm oversexed or anything like that - although I am quite sexy. I just like them, I mean. They're always leaving their goddamn bags our in the middle of the aisle." ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:56:33 -0400 From: dopeytoo Subject: Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow Vokes, Laurie wrote: > ps. don't miss VanMorrison (Elvis comes out and does a duet with him) van morrison isn't playing in nyc :( ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 19:17:58 GMT From: acaia78@aol.com (Acaia78) Subject: RE: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Tow debs wrote: >I've heard a bunch of different acts being mentioned here, >but >haven't been keeping notes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other Must >See >groups? Hello! I've been lurking for a few weeks, trying really hard not to be jealous of all of you people who get to see Fruvous all the time when I haven't seen them yet for the first time. Grrr . . . uh, anyway, I just wanted to recommend Black 47 as an alternative Fleadh Festival act. I *have* seen them, and they're really fun Celtic rock/reggae/rap stuff. Definitely go see them, just watch out for scary IRA-wannabe fans. Carey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:48:45 GMT From: Jacey7@aol.com Subject: Re: boulder show review - the non-violent approach >>So how many people are, like me, wondering if WE are the ones that Chad filters out<< >Yeah, me too.< goodness, I'm glad I'm not the only one ;-) ("Will all the paranoids in the ng please rise." What? Me? Why do you want me to rise?? Why can't everyone just rise? What will this rising accomplish, and what will happen to me if I do?...) ~jen (saner than she looks ;-) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Nobody likes you when you're 23." --Blink 182 "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:33:43 GMT From: firedancer Subject: Re: criticism in general (attn: patrick) Vika Zafrin wrote: > There are few people more devoted to the band than I am, and I > definitely have my own criticisms toward it. Whether or not I post > them to the newsgroup, and the manner I phrase them if I do, is > another story; but kristen, if you can't take criticism of Fruvous, > you should re-evaluate subscribing to an open forum for discussion of > the band, good sides and bad. > apparently my post was misinterpreted my some of you. allow me to explain myself... :) i have absolutely no problem whatsoever with people criticizing the band. none. in fact, i too have my own qualms about the lads (of course; no band could ever be perfect in every aspect for every individual), and my devotion to them doesn't even come close to that of the majority of this newsgroup. but i *do* have a problem with the manner in which patrick chose to present himself. i myself was not offended, but i found his approach to be rude and inconsiderate of other people. (e.g. the name calling, etc.) i totally agree with you in the sense that many people were just as rude in their replies to him, and i don't necessarily agree with how these people handled their emotions. but when somebody is personally insulted, they don't always handle their anger in an appropriate manner. and i have not even considered killfiling patrick - i agree with those of you who think his opinion counts. my reference there was to another of k@'s posts, not to the one that she announced her decision to killfile him. i felt patrick's posts were quite interesting; he had many valuable things to say, much moreso than topics such as breast-size, prom dresses, and armpit hair to name a few. (although i thoroughly enjoyed some of these off-topic posts! *tee hee*) so please reevaluate your first impression of my original post. i think this whole thing is ridiculous and undoubtedly out of hand; my intention was to stress that i felt it important to be considerate of other people's feelings. quite frankly i could care less that he was expressing negative feelings toward the band; i actually found myself agreeing with some of the things he had to say. patrick has contacted me via private email, and i feel we've cleared up some of these misinterpretations. turns out he's actually a pretty cool kid. as for quoting his whole post, my sincere apologies; my server does that automatically and out of sheer laziness i forgot to delete what i neglected to include in the body. *sorry* hope that helps. now (everyone), can we please stop?! :) peas and such, kristen > quoted Patrick's WHOLE post at the end of yours, thereby making your > own post over 300 lines long > > > Vika Zafrin, vika at ibm dot net > "White men CAN jump!!" - Robbie Knievel, > after making it over Grand Canyon > ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 20:24:22 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: OT: Worms make Dirt Well, were it is, straight from the horse's (Worm's?) mouth: The recording of our latest opus continues and the release will likely be early August. To be honest, we're having too much fun recording so it's taking longer than expected. Oh, my poor wallet come early August! Tuition payment, Thornhill, Dirt... what's next?? :) Veronica (purveyor of all things Worm. And Arrogant, too!) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 20:10:41 GMT From: skystar117@aol.comPHAEDRUS (Debb) Subject: Welcomes and for Carey and Jude and Thanks to Y In a message dated 99-06-15 15:41:50 EDT, you write: << Hello! I've been lurking for a few weeks, trying really hard not to be jealous of all of you people who get to see Fruvous all the time when I haven't seen them yet for the first time. Grrr . . . uh, anyway, I just wanted to recommend Black 47 as an alternative Fleadh Festival act. I *have* seen them, and they're really fun Celtic rock/reggae/rap stuff. Definitely go see them, just watch out for scary IRA-wannabe fans. Carey >> hey!, oh Dont be jealous! I've actually only have the joygasmic experience of seeing them once so far( all thanks to the Über-Mitzvah girl, Miss Lori Martin, who's on leave this week in the wilds of Maine )..you should really be jealous of people like ChrisO who prolly is just under or just over 100 shows, (yes, 100) and ChrissieK who's already got like 45 shows this year or something equally amazing....(i hope youre feeling better CK!) anyway...I had my Hoboken experience last 5/8/99 and I'm set for this upcoming week...i deserve it too, after just finishing Jr Year. So my heart goes out to you. Your defruginization, whenever it happens, will knock your socks off. and thanks to all of you for your suggestions. and THANKS TO JUDE FOR GETTING ME A POSTCARD! YES THAT'S RIGHT FOLKS....*I FINALLY GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* now I can actually understand all of your hella funny ass captions! now they all make sense! Oh happy day:) I *heart* Jude (and she knows it being that I called TO right when I got it, interrupting her whole day(sorry!) to just say thanks -Thanks again, you made my hellish finals week better:) - -love debs "All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." -Louis Armstrong "Let the moonlight take the lid off your dreams"-BF5 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:16:49 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: Paul & Andrea's Appel Farm pictures On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:10:25 GMT, "Adam Hartfield" wrote: >Wow, great pictures of the fest, y'all! So clear! So focused on the artists! >So awesome! I guess it's now the Kwiecinski-Mischler-Beasi-Krause Method of >Concert Photography that I must master. :) You should definitely post to >Nields-Nook about these pictures of The Nields. They're great! And I'm >looking forward to the GBS ones, too. I'm sure they'll be just as good! > >Jeeze, I wrote Polk instead of Krause initially above. I think I need help. > >--Adam >adamh@javanet.com > Do you mean you haven't gotten to the GBS ones yet or you don't think they're up yet? :) In any case, the whole Appel section is functional and all the piccies are there. Thank you for the praise, though most of it's earned by Paul. (I DID bust my butt scanning though. :) ) ((And it's not that I *can't* take good pics y'see, I just rarely have the camera!! :) )) Now if only we had enough webspace to put up all our Fruvous pictures....:) Thanks Adam, and for the record, and for everyone to see, I ate a piece of Meow Mix once too. Andrea - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes, and The Früvous Dance: http://users.ntplx.net/~jkpolk - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:36:23 -0500 From: Joshua Doell Drury Subject: Re: Austin Powers Moxy connection Mindy J Munson wrote: > Okay. Just saw the movie (yes, I know It is 1:15 and that I willbe > getting up in 6 hrs) and I couldn't help but notice three fruvous > phenomenons: > 1) "Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm going to the moon" *giggle* > 2)Elvis Costello! > 3)Dr. *Evil*'s headquaters was a Starbucks!!! I'm just glad that I didn't see it at the new Silver City location, which not only charges an exorbitant $10 per movie, but is also the only theatre in town with a friggin' Starbucks in the lobby. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:54:06 -0500 From: Joshua Doell Drury Subject: Re: Etymology (was: the war on gayness) FruWench wrote: > Tom, > That may have been off-topic, but I loved it. Thank you. > > May I assume you know where the British gesture of contempt came from as well? > That is another of my favorite stories, being an amature archer myself. Oooohh! Me me me me me! I'm ever so smart! Now let's see if I can get it right... Back in the olden days, when Britain and France had a whole lot of huge wars for no good reason, British archers who were captured had their two first fingers (i.e. index and ring) cut off so they would not be able to pull back an arrow in order to fire it. At the end of one such war, Britain was victorious in fending off the French, and the British archers who had made it through the war with all their digits held up their index and ring fingers (back of the hand outwards) to mock and show contempt for the vanquished French. Do I win? Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:29:00 GMT From: CheesemonkeyGem Subject: hockey, clarendon, and bdays :) >I think our beloved Cheesemonkey's point was simply >that she didn't have any ID to begin with! :) :) that is correct. i am stuck with no valid ID (valid being a card with a photo and bday in it) for another few weeks, until i get my new health card mailed to me. or, i could go and get my beginner's license (and i would get the actual license card in 5 days) which i plan to do VERY SOON, but i keep putting it off because Im afraid i dont know enough and i will fail. dammit im never gonna drive! ive never even been behind the wheel of a car! 'cept for once when my brother told me to start it up, and i couldnt even do that :( - -jen the incompetent cheesemonkey === Before you get in a fight with a person, walk 500 hundred miles in his shoes. That way you're 500 hundred miles ahead of him and you've got his shoes. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:21:33 GMT From: nogami@egr.msu.edu Subject: Ann Arbor shows All: I've been out of the loop for a while, and I discovered to my horror that both Ark shows are show out (according to their hotline). I'm wondering if there are any angels out there that might have one or two extra tickets to Wednesday's show? I'm thinking about driving down anyway, but I don't think that I'd have much of a chance. If anyone does have tickets, please respond off list. Thanks, Jun Nogami Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:27:57 GMT From: Tom Salyers Subject: Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG) On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 Christi218@aol.com wrote: > Tom, do you want the correct quote? ;-) > (if this is in *fact* the quote you were looking for...) > > "12 milkmen is theoretically possible....13 is silly...looks like one > milkman too many Coogin. FREAKS!!!!" > > It's the movie "Freaked" starring Alex Winter. *Yes!* You rock. =) - -- Tom Salyers "Now is the Windows of our disk contents IRCnick: Aqualung Made glorious SimEarth by this Sun of Zork." Denver, CO --from _Richard v3.0_ http://www.dimensional.com/~tsalyers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:17:20 GMT From: Christi218@aol.com Subject: Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG) In a message dated 99-06-15 01:34:11 EDT, tsalyers@dimensional.com writes: > "Eleven milkmen is just barely on the edge of plausibility. > Twelve would be silly." > > Ten points to whoever can name the movie that's paraphrased from. Tom, do you want the correct quote? ;-) (if this is in *fact* the quote you were looking for...) "12 milkmen is theoretically possible....13 is silly...looks like one milkman too many Coogin. FREAKS!!!!" It's the movie "Freaked" starring Alex Winter. :) Christine. - --Chrissy_K on irc *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Christi218@aol.com & bh108@freenet.buffalo.edu - --Diet soda? - --No thanks. FREAKED!!!!!! - --Fiddle Faddle? Elijah to Ricky - --Alright.....delicious. 1993 *^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:37:17 -0500 From: Judith Coombe for Moxy Fruvous Subject: Re: Fruvous Literary Magazine Update - Attention all folks creative! ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 22:52:03 GMT From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: in the words of fruvous Okay, I've only been skimming through this whole flaming argument, so I apoligize if this has been in someone else's post, but I think Fruvous put it very eloquently in just two lines: "What makes a person so poisonous righteous That they think less of anyone who just disagreed?" - M.F., Gulf War Song Discussion is great, but flaming gets tedius and hurtful. Sara _______ The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:24:48 -0400 From: truztno1 Subject: Re: Ocean City Concert and Thornhill questions > hmmmm.... haven't heard all acoustic bass before.... sounds *very* cool, though... hey, when someone actually gets tix, can you e-mail me at tigger246@hotmail.com ASAP with info (such as whether it really makes a difference in seating by getting tix early).... thanx ever so much! ~truztno1 _______________________________________________________________ Fletcher Morris: There is no Saddam Hussein. This guy's name is John Gillnitz. We found him doing dinner theater in Tulsa. Did a mean King and I. Plays good ethnics. I'm saying I invented the guy. We set him up in '79. He rattles his saber whenever we need a good distraction. Ah... If you boys only knew how many of your stories I dreamed up while sitting on the pot. *Dreamland 1/2*- The X-Files ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 17:26:29 -0700 From: kelloggp@nagita.cs.colorado.edu (Kellogg Patrick Layne) Subject: Re: Oh, for the love of crap >THANK YOU veronica, im glad someone finally mentioned >this. Im sorry, but what the hell is the deal with >analyzing lyrics to death and nitpicking over every >little bit? (im talking mostly of/to Patrick but also >some other ng people). To me, either you like the song Ah, but nitpicking was the whole reason I posted in the first place. For example, I could say that Moxy plays an electric banjo with the "clawhammer technique" so often used in traditional music, and that they've brilliantly turned Arlo Guthrie into Jimi Hendricks... and if I posted that on rec.music.folk, nobody would care. Nobody would understand. I knew that here would be some obsessed fans that have played the CDs over and over again, to the point they know every strange note, every dropped chorus, or the odd line that gets stuck in your head and won't go away. I'm glad you think Moxy is just a party band. Good for you. Party on, Wayne. Patrick Kellogg kellogg@wer.sni.uiut.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:13:13 -0400 From: "Neilbert" Subject: Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Town I'll back everyone who recommends Black 47 (tho, I haven't seen them live and can't go :( ) and I'd also like to put in a nod to the Candy Butchers. Saw them open for They Might Be Giants a few times and *loved* them. Now, if only they'd put out some new music... - -- - -neil neilliam@hotmail.com www.neilbert.com Debb wrote in message news:19990615122424.08855.00000071@ng-cm1.aol.com... > So I'm planning to check out both east coast FFs' and I'm just now thinking > about seeing, *gasp* _OTHER_ acts there, besides Fruvous, Elvis, Jonh Lee > Hooker and VM....I've heard a bunch of different acts being mentioned here, but > haven't been keeping notes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other Must See > groups? > Chill, thanks;) > -debs > > > "All music is folk music. I ain't never heard no horse sing a song." -Louis > Armstrong > > "Let the moonlight take the lid off your dreams"-BF5 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:59:59 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Town On 15 Jun 1999 16:24:24 GMT, someone who looked like skystar117@aol.comPHAEDRUS (Debb) whispered: >So I'm planning to check out both east coast FFs' and I'm just now thinking >about seeing, *gasp* _OTHER_ acts there, besides Fruvous, Elvis, Jonh Lee >Hooker and VM....I've heard a bunch of different acts being mentioned here, but >haven't been keeping notes. Does anyone have any suggestions for other Must See >groups? I liked Eleanor McEvoy. I used to have her first album, back in my salad days, and I played it to my little heart's content. So I was (secretly) glad that she was at Fleadh, and glad I caught her set, although it was weird singing along to songs I thought I'd forgotten years ago. My point: See if you can catch her set. (She was on the VH1 stage at SF Fleadh.) She does Celtic-flavoured folky originals. You might get a kick out of it. - --nicole twn whose sources report that the Saw Doctors are also good, but their set conflicted with Fruvous :( P.S. I've never seen Black 47 live, but I have one of their albums and like it. ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1999 23:47:32 GMT From: stereopuff@aol.com (Mike Wood) Subject: Re: Suggestions for Alternative Fleadh Festival Acts in NYC/B-Town >Does anyone have any suggestions >for other Must See groups? *Run*, don't walk, to see the CANDY BUTCHERS; *the* best-unsigned-band-in-the-cosmos (or at least, the most-deserving of a major-label contract after several years of 200% energy...) ~MikeWood - ---------- "I am the cutest invincible shoe rider ever!" ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #498 ********************************************