From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #480 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, June 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 480 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Moving FDC into the next millennium... [ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross] Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms [trace@frumail.org (Trace)] Re: CO show info [kelloggp@nagita.cs.colorado.edu (Kellogg Patrick Layne] Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms [LuCkYDaBeD@aol.com] re:Re: buffalo (for paul mischler) ["lil' spence" ] Re: CO show info [tmbgirl@juno.com] Nields Need our help!! [chrismoe95@aol.com (Chrismoe95)] Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIAN ["KatieWow" ] Re: LET'S GO, BUFFALO!!! [piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO)] Falcon Ridge Camp Fruvous ["A.T. Schrader" ] OT: Guster and Great Big Sea in one place . . . ["KatieWow" ] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=FCFilk?= Alert! =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=FCFilk?= Alert! [] Re: Nields Need our help!! [Mindy J Munson ] Re: OT: DVN/EFO plugs [paul@davincisnotebook.com (Paul Sabourin)] Re: OT: DVN/EFO plugs [chad schrock ] Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin)] Re: location of fans (topic, what topic?) [srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori M] Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms [chad schrock ] Re: location of fans (topic, what topic?) [chad schrock ] What to bring to Falcon Ridge (was PLEASE HELP A CAMPING NEOPHYTE!) [cos@] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:15 GMT From: ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry) Subject: Re: Moving FDC into the next millennium... On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:23:23 GMT, chrisom@ibm.net (Chris O'Malley) wrote: >Hi Folks, > >The new page uses CSS (Cascading Style Sheets). A very simple one, but >it allows for text links rather than 44 images (black and red) to be >loaded every time index.html is loaded. The _only_ drawback so far is >that the groovy-red that shows up when your mouse pointer is over a >link only shows up in IE4...I'm still looking for a way to make it >work in Netscape. > > It doesn't apart from in NS5 which as you are probably aware isn't actually available yet. IIRC, www.webreference.com has a way of doing rollovers that would siginificantly reduce the number of images needed if you wanted to achieve the same effect in both browsers. I think it might be just 8 gifs. I use NS myself and personally don't think I'm losing a lot by not having hovering links. Ross It's the Galaxies Greatest Comic, Now check out it's web site! http://www.cybergoth.net/tuws/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:30 GMT From: trace@frumail.org (Trace) Subject: Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms On 10 Jun 1999 17:05:06 GMT, Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote: >JULY??!! Woohoo!! I hadn't heard a release date yet... I'm very excited by >this idea. Well, that was the response from Trevor when I asked about it at a show back in April, so I don't know if it is *still* planned for a July release date. Dates have a funny way of getting pushed back. *ahem* >And you know, with living in a combination of Toronto and Kingston it's >still not as easy to find the Worms as you might think... but I manage! :) >Actually, the places right downtown Kingston are pretty good for local >stuff, and Tower here on Yonge always has them. It is still easier than trying to get a hold of their stuff here in the Philly/NJ area. Up in Toronto, Sam the Record Man had a nice supply of Worms stuff back in Feb. during FruCon. >:) Veronica (who is wondering if it would be extremely rude to pay her >aunt and uncle her first visit ever to their Burlington home on June 18th; >coincidentally, the same day as the Worms are playing. Probably, huh?) Maybe, or maybe not. You could always pay me a first ever visit in August and see Fruvous AND the Worms on back to back days :-) Fruvous in Ocean City, NJ on August 16th, the Worms in Bethlehem, PA on August 17th. I'm swooning from the anticipation. Wow, I've actually managed to make this an on-topic post. Amazing. I'll try not to make a habit of it. - -- Trace trace@frumail.org *sniff* Target is within sniffing range. Hailing on all frequencies. *woop woop* Visual acquired. Our bogie is at 9:00. Fire when ready. - 1/1 BL dum tek ca tek tek ca tek tek *snort* ARGH *glare* Follow THAT one lads.... - 1/2 BL ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 1999 13:49:52 -0700 From: kelloggp@nagita.cs.colorado.edu (Kellogg Patrick Layne) Subject: Re: CO show info Just bought a 21+ "student" ticket for $6.50 at "Albums On the Hill", which is directly across from the Fox Theater in Boulder. So, as of 12:00 today (Thurs, June 10, day-of-show), they're not sold out. Salseperson raved about opening act for Moxy F, a new folk guitarist- singer name Mary Cutrufello. Show starts at 7:30, but "Naughty BY Nature" has a late show after Moxy F, so they will probably kick everyone out of the building by 9:30 or earlier. See http://www.foxtheater.com Now, there's a double bill... anybody staying for all three bands? I didn't think so Today, I'm wearing an op-art blue t-shirt and an overgrown beard. I'd be happy to sneak Moxy cards or stuff over the 21+ barrier those those that are age-impared. Catch me before the show! Patrick Kellogg kellogg@sni.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:27:28 GMT From: LuCkYDaBeD@aol.com Subject: Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms In a message dated 6/9/99 10:04:01 AM Central Daylight Time, trace@frumail.org writes: > I would say EFO. > If I remember correctly, you live in the Midwest. And, it just so happens that EFO is coming to Des Moines on July 15! How unexpected is that. maria probably buying the EFO CD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:26:03 GMT From: "lil' spence" Subject: re:Re: buffalo (for paul mischler) On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:35:51 -0400 Paul Mischler wrote: >Chris, holy crap! i am from williamsville too! i just call it buffalo because it makes it easier for everyone else. mischler...flowers? just curious. if so, i live right near mischler's florist. (very close, within walking distance...my brother worked there a few years ago) - -chris >As a fellow Buffolonian (well, Williamsville person actually, but when I explain that to people, I tell them, "It's just outside of Buffalo", but that takes too long so I just say I'm from Buffalo.). > >Welcome to alt.music.moxy-fruvous! You will find alot of Buffalo fans here, especially since the Sabres beat the leafs. (There was some tearing here and there because Moxy Früvous is from Toronto... but that's another story!) > >Standard pointers: www.fruvous.com <-- the place for all things Früvous. >www.sabres.com <-- homepage of the team that is one game ahead in the Stanley Cup Finals. > >Do, all I can say is, Go Buffalo! > >-Paul Mischler > ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 1999 20:34:45 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms You guys make such a tempting offer. Even though I think you may just be certifiable to invite me down there Now... I have to be in Kingston for the 14th and 15th... but if I can swing a coupla days off work... little vacation before going back to school... wish I had a car... we'll talk closer to that date. At this rate, I think I'm going to have trouble getting these people to let me go back to school even (they keep telling me I"m wonderful and making me pesky offers of full-time employment ;) Well... if Trevor said that the release date is July... I mean, it's not like Chris said it or anything! :) Enough with the speculation... I'm just going to e-mail Chris and see what he says... :) Veronica (very seriously tempted. Very. But she also hasn't gotten over the shock of her tuition bill which arrived day before yesterday, so now's probably not the best time to decide these things...) - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:59:01 GMT From: Frumanchu Subject: Re: location of fans? Page1@auracom.com wrote: > I am wondering where everyone who is in this newsgroup is from... > > Rose Pictou - Truro, Nova Scotia - Canada > Toledo, OH and I'm sweating like a pig this week..... :) Phil - -- "His men would follow him anywhere, but only out of morbid curiosity." --Actual quote from Federal employee performance evaluations Send reply to Frumanchu AT hotmail DOT com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:41:51 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: CO show info >Now, there's a double bill... >anybody staying for all three bands? I didn't >think so ouch. three of us were actually thinking about staying for naughty by nature. you really shouldn't underestimate the musical preferences of fruvous fans like that! if i had the money i totally would have stayed. >Today, I'm wearing an op-art blue t-shirt and >an overgrown beard oh yeah... anyways... since i'll be in the mad posse i never distinguished what i look like. blonde hair, blue eyes, 5'7" i'm in a t-shirt and jeans and if worse comes to worse... just listen for my "xena on heroine" cheering :D anyways, i'm on my way out. (hey there's not much space in the balcony and we need to be sure that we all get in!) talk to you kiddies at the show :P oh yeah, as far as the show selling out. ticket master outlets are sold out. you have to buy your tickets at albums on the hill (they are *not* sold out). sorry for not making that clearer. take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 1999 22:49:57 GMT From: chrismoe95@aol.com (Chrismoe95) Subject: Nields Need our help!! Greetings everyone, First I want to clear up my post yesterday....as the subject said it was a humorous post re: Jian's Birthday!!! As far as Ohio is concerned it is a lovely place (especially the Flats in Cleveland!!). You really need to have a sense of humor about one's origin! I know, I'm from Rochester for cripe's sake!!! And I meant no offense to those out there over 30, I'll be there soon enough myself!! Enough said! Now to today's subject matter...Katryna & Nerissa Nields' parents car was stolen, and they have requested that people in the DC/Virginia area call their local police if they see it. It is a black Mazda 626, Virginia license plate NZ2893. It has a Nields bumper sticker too. There is a reward if the car is found! ~Moe :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:54:38 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JIAN disappointed?! i give him credit. he's got allergies and asthma the likes of which i've not often seen amongst mortal men. i don't find "saucep'n" *all* that challenging, but then again i was the breath control champion in my high school drama club :). ~~kate, who cherishes her few and far-between talents, holding her breath among them :) - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jun 1999 23:29:20 GMT From: piscopinto@aol.com (PISCOPINTO) Subject: Re: LET'S GO, BUFFALO!!! > >>Dominick Hasek IS a GOD!!! And Mr. Satan is... well, let's just say the Sabres have the forces os good AND evil on their side :):) >>80% of teams that win the first game of the final playoffs, win >>the >>cup...LET'S GO BUFFALO!!! >.LET'S GO BUFFALO!!! >..LET'S GO BUFFALO!!! >..LET'S GO BUFFALO!!! >Hell Ya >Hell Ya >Hell Ya >Hell Ya Hell, Dallas bought some good players... but, if these guys actually live in TX, by all rights they should not be used to ice, anywhere, ever *whew* Angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:35:39 GMT From: "A.T. Schrader" Subject: Falcon Ridge Camp Fruvous Camp at FRFF! Bring your friends! Find the > Fruville on the > Hill, or the Susan Werner camp, or the Dar Williams > camp - hell, let's > all camp near each other! All 16,000+ of us. thanks Vika! I was getting worried ^_^....speaking of which has anything else been planned as far as a "camp fruvous" or will it just be follow the drums playing Raja to the site. Just wondering.... less then 2 months!!! woo hoo!!! Amy === "The masses wanted to look non-conformist, so that meant the non-conformity had to be mass manufactured." ~Andy Warhol "Wouldn't it be great if the band just never ended" ~Great Big Sea _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:57:43 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: OT: Guster and Great Big Sea in one place . . . and that place is buffalo :). for those of you in northern new york who will be früless on june 24th, might i suggest you check out thursday in the square instead. on june 24th our beloved great big sea and guster (well, maybe guster's just *my* beloved--for now :) will be gracing lafayette square with some kick-ass music. if it wasn't so damn far away, i might consider skipping the vault show to attend. /duck anyway, go and tell them i sent you. then e-mail me and i'll sell you their CDs for $10 each [1]. ~~kate [1] i'm a guster rep, not a swindler :). - -- Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** "Quite frankly, I wish the website would just go down . . . we're starting to make a little bit of money. It's a disaster." "We're about the music." - --The guys, West Coast Live **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:41:45 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: Rodney Elin Update Yay! Hes better! Thank you for this update. I was egar to hear how he was doing. I guess I should send him stuff =+) fruchild, *canoodle!* ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:49:20 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=FCFilk?= Alert! =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=FCFilk?= Alert! >(Maybe if I ask very nicely, the guys will perform this in Baltimore >on >the 24th) *hint* *hope* ;-) And I'll be there... They should! Esp cause Im not familiar with the tune and Im struggling hard core to think if I know it fruchild, *canoodle!* ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:41:45 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: Nields Need our help!! >Greetings everyone, > >First I want to clear up my post yesterday....as the subject said it >was a >humorous post re: Jian's Birthday!!! I know that my reply (on sticking up for him) was meant in humour as well... not sure about the others >Now to today's subject matter...Katryna & Nerissa Nields' parents car was >stolen, and they have requested that people in the DC/Virginia area call their >local police if they see it. It is a black Mazda 626, Virginia license plate >NZ2893. It has a Nields bumper sticker too. There is a reward if the car isfound! I'll keep an eye out! I'll have my friends on the prowl as well fruchild, *canoodle!* ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:51:53 GMT From: paul@davincisnotebook.com (Paul Sabourin) Subject: Re: OT: DVN/EFO plugs On 9 Jun 1999 11:54:15 GMT, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: >Question ... you guys (as in DVN) ARE listed to be at Fairfax Fair the same >weekend (day after?) as the afore-mentioned Richmond show ... is that still on >the agenda? Yup. Richmond on Friday, Fairfax Fair on Saturday. Have mikes, will travel. Paul from DVN. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:11:40 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: OT: DVN/EFO plugs Paul Sabourin wrote: > > Yup. Richmond on Friday, Fairfax Fair on Saturday. > Have mikes, will travel. You bring Mike back here right now! We need him! - -- chad at radix dot net ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 1999 01:17:50 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms chad grumbled: > at least you get to see the worms... stupid >scheduling thing... come to Bethlehem! hmmm, that sounds like a Christmas carol. wrong season, eh? Anyway, do it! Really! Früvous in Ocean City on Monday night, Worms in the Lehigh Valley on Tuesday ... it'd only mean One Measly Day Off ... *wheedlewheedlewheedle* *prettyplease* :) - -- Lori, who seems to be inviting everyone everywhere lately. Hey, anyone here ever get the idea I like you guys or somethin'? :) ------------------------------ Date: 11 Jun 1999 01:11:02 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.composter (Lori Martin) Subject: Re: location of fans (topic, what topic?) Ellen alleged: >the vault is small enough > that locating ppl you know shouldn't be THAT difficult, um, that brings up the question of how big *is* the Vault anyway? - -- Lori, looking forward to locating all sorts of peoples I know :) ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World: http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Früvous/amm-f factoids galore (courtesy of Colleen Campbell): http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:07:58 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: OT: EFO or Arrogant Worms Gruneberg Veronica J wrote: > :) Veronica (who is wondering if it would be extremely rude > to pay her aunt and uncle her first visit ever to their > Burlington home on June 18th; coincidentally, the same day > as the Worms are playing. Probably, huh?) Go for it! I used the January FruShow in LA as an excuse to visit my aunt & uncle in San Diego for the first time in a couple of years. Only one of the cats seemed to have a problem with it. - -- chad at radix dot net at least you get to see the worms... stupid scheduling thing... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:04:53 -0400 From: chad schrock Subject: Re: location of fans (topic, what topic?) Ellen wrote: > chad schrock wrote: > > Will I be seeing you on the 24th? > i'll rephrase the question for you: Will you be at the Vault > on the 24th? > A: oh you betcha, yah. Cool! see you there, then. > will you *see* me? i don't know. the vault is small enough > that locating ppl you know shouldn't be THAT difficult, but > like, if you were at the 9:30 club show in feb, i sure didn't > see you. I wasn't at the 9.30 club. :\ > peace, > ellen (already storing up sleep for the trip to VaBch too.) This brings up the thing I hated about leaving the civil service. On the plus side, I'm now being paid a living wage. On the negative side, *really* far over on the negative side, I gave up a *lot* of leave for various trips and concerts. That part really sucks. - -- chad at radix dot net wondering if Lockheed's computers can deal with such a large negative number is I really take as much time off this summer as I want to.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:00:28 GMT From: cos@polyamory.org (Ofer Inbar) Subject: What to bring to Falcon Ridge (was PLEASE HELP A CAMPING NEOPHYTE!) I wrote this for nields-nook. Adam Hartfield said, > Ofer - this is wicked good advice. Would you consider cross-posting > it to ammf? So, here it is... Forwarded message: Subject: What to bring to Falcon Ridge (was PLEASE HELP A CAMPING NEOPHYTE!) To: nields-nook@pobox.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:16:49 -0400 (EDT) From: cos@polyamory.org (Ofer Inbar) elizabeth sweeney writes: > My roommate Karyn & I are in the process of planning for FRFF. We have > weekend tickets with onsite camping. We just realized that since we haven't > tented it since childhood, we have NO CLUE as to what to pack or bring for > our way-cool weekend camping experience! We don't even have a tent! > > If anyone can help (please please), We'd love some ideas about what > gear/food/etc. is a "must-bring" vs. "should be left at home." For bonus > cool-points you could even throw in some specific wisdom about Falcon > Ridge... Just think: YOU could be our camping guru! Think of the power! The > *prestige*! I'll go for the bonus, then! I go to Falcon Ridge every year, and it's not exactly the same as your average generic camping experience. So this is going to be a very Falcon Ridge oriented list of advice... Well, first of all, get a tent :-) Once you get a tent, set it up in your yard sometime, so you know that you know how to set it up and don't get confused when you're actually at the festival. If you've got an old tent, like one borrowed from a parent, it may be very difficult to set up in the dark, so keep that in mind when you make your travel plans! It would suck if you got to Falcon Ridge shortly before sundown and then spent two hours trying to figure out how to get your tent up in the dark. A lot of the newer tents are much much simpler to set up and can be done easily at night. Bring sleepstuff to put in your tent. Sleeping bags, blankets, pillows, whatever. Also make sure you've got tarps. Most tents come with one tarp to put underneath, and a rain-cover that goes over the top. It can be very useful to have an extra tarp, though. Also, you'll want some beach blanket type things to claim your space at the main stage, and to sit on when you're there. Some people bring lawn chairs and parasols, but you can do just fine without those. Weather varies. Some years it's rainy and muddy, others it's hot and sunny the whole time, others you get a mix of both. Nights are cold and days are hot. Be prepared for all weather. Bring a raincoat, light clothes and warm clothes (layers are good), a good pair of workboots or similar in case of heavy mud, sandals or similar light footwear in case there's no mud. Long hot sunny days mean you'll probably want to bring several T-shirts (or equivalent) so you can have more than one per day, and also changes of socks in case of rain. Any clothes you wear at Falcon Ridge will get dirty. They'll get grass and dirt stains, at the very least, and probably also food stains. Don't bring anything that would upset you too much if it got dirty. Also, don't bring anything that isn't comfortable for movement. You'll want to dance, run around, whatever. Don't bring new shows you're just breaking in; instead bring those sneakers you've almost thrown out because they're starting to get tattered. If you don't have the right footwear for rainy muddy weather and are planning to buy some, buy it now so you'll have several weeks to break it in in case you need to wear it at the festival. Since there may be a lot of hot sun and you will likely be spending the entire day outdoors, bring good sunscreen! Also a hat. At night, you'll probably want bug repellent, and something to put on itchy insect bites which you'll probably get even if you have repellent. Bring the usual toiletries, toothbrush & toothpaste, any medicine you usually use, etc. Definitely bring some sort of aspirin or tylenol, even if you don't need it, you will encounter someone who does :-) Bring a hairbrush and random hair frobs, if you use such things. Flashlights! When it gets dark, it gets dark! On Friday and Saturday, festival stuff goes on well into the night, especially the dance tent and impromptu jam sessions and gatherings. I always bring at least two flashlights, because other people forget to bring them. Make sure their batteries are fresh, 'cause they may be getting a lot of use and you don't want your flashlight to die at 10pm on Saturday. Bring water! Falcon Ridge supplies water from big water trucks, but the lines can get long, and you'll often want to have water right at your campsite. You'll be really glad you don't have to wait in line and you don't have to lug back all the water you need. Get a few of those gallon things at a supermarket, or just fill up used bottles from your tap. Bring too much, not too little! It sucks if you run out, it doesn't suck if you still have water at the end of the weekend. For food, the best policy IMO is a mix of bringing your own and buying food there. You'll want some cash to buy food at the festival, they have a wide variety of vendors with all sorts of yummy stuff, and since they don't allow campers to use fire, you can't really cook at your campsite. However, you don't want to totally depend on the purchased food to keep from being hungry, or you'll spend too much money and too much time in food lines. Bring a cooler stocked with things like: - fruits, such as oranges, which are portable, resistant to accidental destruction, and very juicy. - dry nonperishable snacks such as granola bars, also portable - sandwich making materials, if you want to make sandwiches at your campsite for some of your "meals". I wouldn't recommend making them in advance 'cause they won't be very good once they've sat around for a day or two... - whatever else fits :) Don't forget to get a few of those icepack thingies for your cooler, and put them in your freezer at least a day before you head out to the festival! Bring a portable beverage carrying item (thermos, canteen). Ice is sold at several locations at the festival, and there usually aren't long lines for ice. You can buy bags of ice to put in your cooler to keep it cold after your icepack things thaw - in typical Falcon Ridge weather, even those blue icepack things won't stay frozen through Saturday. When you buy an ice bag, you can also use it to fill up your thermos with ice, which will quickly turn to water as you wander around the festival with it. One thing I like to do is bring a few herb teas. I've found that if you fill a thermos with ice, stuff a few bags of, say, Red Zinger on top, and then pour in water to fill in all the spaces between the ice, close it up and by the time you've walked down the hill with it, it will be ice tea. You can preserve your cooler ice longer if you keep the cooler in the shade. The best way to do this is to keep it inside your tent when you're not there, or to put your extra tarp over it. Trash bags also come in very useful. You'll want at least one for trash, and you'll probably find uses for a few others (say, for used clothes). Don't expect to get much sleep over the weekend that you're at the festival. As I said, activites go late into the night and you'll probably be really charged up in the evenings and won't want to go to sleep early. But you also can't "sleep in" in the morning, because once the sun comes up your tent will heat up rapidly and you'll want to get the heck out! This usually happens by 8am. Also don't expect to be in touch with the outside world. There is a payphone at the festival, but it really sucks, you can barely hear anything over the sound of music and conversation nearby, and there's always a long wait for it. You're better off pretending it doesn't exist unless you have an emergency. If you have a pager or a cell phone or anything like that, chances are the service does not cover the area Falcon Ridge is in, and it won't work. Just tell anyone who might want to find you over the weekend that you'll be totally out of touch. I hope this is useful! -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@polyamory.org cos@leftbank.com -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "I'm going down to the hollow, where the trees meet the soul" -- Trina Hamlin, Down to the Hollow ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #480 ********************************************