From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #455 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, June 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 455 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: What are you listening to? [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] re: the new producer [Taryn Chase ] Re: am I nuts? [jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan)] Re: FDC says . . . [BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson)] Re: Dar Williams and the Nields Was: What are you listening to? [jkpolk@n] Final Total [nslife ] Re: location of fans [BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson)] Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory [BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson)] Re: am i nuts? ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: (OT) Dar Williams and the Neilds [Donna ] locztion of fans [auerworld@followme.com] Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory ["KatieWow" ] FruMail, Where Am I, etc [Angie Armstrong ] Re: NEXT CD USA? [carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759)] Re: (OT) Dar Williams and the Neilds [Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.que] Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc [jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardh] Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc ["Zainab" ] the new postcard [Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.queensu.ca>] The *Final* Final Total, well at least until the next addition;) [SkyStar] Re: am i nuts? [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] getting OT, Gomez (was, Re: What are you listening to?) [McCown ] Re: getting OT, Gomez (was, Re: What are you listening to?) [srm9988n@aol] Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Re: FDC says . . . ["Madd Hatter" ] Re: OT: The Phantom Smarties ["Madd Hatter" >In summary, are they "like" anything/one, or completely distinctive yet >wildly >>wonderful? >That's the one! That last one! Nail on the head! Well then I thank you profusely. Now if I can find them anywhere in a stateside listening station I know I *must* check 'em out. And if not I may just use the wing-and-prayer philosophy I've embraced when offered other recommendations. (Hasn't failed yet, except with Spice World -- Heather, chad, how *could* you...? :) ) - -- Lori, suggestible ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:15:22 GMT From: Taryn Chase Subject: re: the new producer i'm so psyched! not only does REM rock, i've also always loved that Teenage Suicide song. ah, the wonderful sick humor of Heathers. has Christian Slater or Winona Ryder been in ANYTHING that good, since?! BTW: anybody seen the movie Jawbreaker yet? (the one with Rose McGowan, Marilyn Manson's girl) I heard it was supposed to be Heathers-esque and was curious about whether or not it was worth catching. Yay for Dixon, Taryn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:54:49 GMT From: jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: am I nuts? On Mon, 31 May 1999 21:51:29 -0400, "Becca" wrote: >Is it really hot anywhere else in our little Fruvous network? I'm dying >here...how will I ever sleep tonight? Yeah, it was gross here too... That bastion of classic prose, "Getting Results With Microsoft Office 97" says that MS Access will help you organize CDs. Sheesh. If I had a functional CD-ROM, I might be anal enough to do that. Eeew.. horrid thought: if someone does a DejaNews search for "anal" they might find my name *shudder* I need maybe a cleanout. I organized CDs the other day, frustrated at this machine, and counted, too. I have about 200, including live CD-Rs & mix CD-Rs & random samplers/etc. Cleaning one's room/apartment/house is also good on a hot night. For me, cleaning room == organizing music. I need a good CD jewel liner maker thingy. Software. WinTaper didn't do as nice a job as I'd hoped. >-becca, trying to think of better things she should be doing before going >back to work tomorrow other than posting! Shower. Shave. Eat. Sleep. Make mix tapes. :-) Neil Neil Bardhan: stage manager,tape trader,CTY Nevermore,Libertarian,and nice guy http://www.servtech.com/~jbardhan/ Smile at every person you see ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 20:28:12 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: FDC says . . . no, no, she had it right the first time. Philadelphia. (Checks spelling) yup. philly! Woo! Yeah! where could it be held though maybe the TLA... in ^seattle^ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:31:43 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: Dar Williams and the Nields Was: What are you listening to? On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:42:23 -0400, cc@broadwing.nospam.com (CC) wrote: >In article <374da3eb.77628441@news.supernews.com>, jkpolk@ntplx.net >(Andrea Krause) wrote: > >> Oooooh I just love Apple Venus!!! :) Well, I love most XTC anyway...so >> I'm kinda biased. :) Right now I'm just heavily rotating (no >> particular albums, just everything I've got!) Dar Williams, Peter >> Mulvey, Fruvous (of course), The Nields, and other cool people who >> seem to all be converging on Falcon Ridge this summer (yay!) > >Andrea, > >I've always heard good things about Dar Williams, but never knew what to >pick up. Any recommendations? I'm new to Dar, but I'm swiftly coming to believe that she's one of the most amazing artists I've encountered recently. I have the Honesty Room, Mortal City, and End of the Summer (I think that's it, aside from EPs and stuff...?) My initial opinion ranks them HR, MC, and EOS. Of course, as with all artists I love a whole bunch, the order is subject to change often, as they all are wonderful. And the collaboration/cover project she is in, Cry Cry Cry, is well worth checking out as well. >As for the Nields, I can't listen to their new stuff anymore. Bob on the >Ceiling was great, but it's been difficult to listen to anything since >then... The Nields are spectacular, especially live. (Hmmm..sound like anyone we know?) I actually like the new one (Play) less than the others (interesting because I got it first) but of course I still love it. Mousse is my favorite, I think. :) (with the same caveat as Dar, preferences subject to change. :) ) And that's all for my longwinded and effusive praise of the artists in question...aren't you sorry you asked? :) Andrea - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes, and The Früvous Dance: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:53:03 -0300 From: nslife Subject: Final Total Okay, I just switched ISPs and so the location has to end because I lost track. Anyway, here is the total of Moxy fans on this newsgroup; 36 USA 9 Canada 2 Australia 1 Scotland ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 20:34:30 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: location of fans I'm from america... But i'm not proud of it. But hell, we've got a better economy! So there! You suck, canada! Brian nicholson- c'mon, i'm not giving away my address now! Don't want canada to launch any hockey stick bombs at l'il ol' me. Brian ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 20:31:31 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory yeah... however when i bought my copy The store Tower in cherry hill was playing it. I came in the middle of bargainville, they played to the end. Even deep blue! parental advisory is crap. Brian "Ha! He said played some nintendo1 heh!" -Some guy in the store ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:04:02 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: am i nuts? Neil Bardhan wrote in message news:<375437ca.1478706@ny.news.verio.net>... > On Mon, 31 May 1999 21:51:29 -0400, "Becca" wrote: > That bastion of classic prose, "Getting Results With Microsoft Office > 97" says that MS Access will help you organize CDs. I am anal enough to do that. :) See http://www.javanet.com/~adamh/mymusic.htm. Beware the first link - it really *does* lead to a 700 KB HTML file. Access did a nice job. Sigh. I really need to enter all the discs I've bought since last summer. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:40:24 GMT From: Donna Subject: Re: (OT) Dar Williams and the Neilds >Andrea, > >I've always heard good things about Dar Williams, but never knew what to >pick up. Any recommendations? Well, I'm not Andrea (Hi, Andrea!) but I thought I'd pipe up anyway. :) I seriously recommend "Mortal City" because it has "As Cool as I Am" on it, which is not only one of my favorite Dar songs, it's one of my favorite songs, period. [The fact that I have approxomately 2,000 favorite songs shouldn't discourage you.] :) Plus it as "The Christians and the Pagans" which was my FIRST Dar song, and "Southern CA wants to be Western NY" which is fun. Of course, "The Honesty Room" as good stuff on it too, like "When I was a Boy" :) Good stuff. Along the lines of "Gotta Get Over Greta" if I do say so myself. :) (the content, not the style) That's my opinion. :) donna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:22:03 GMT From: auerworld@followme.com Subject: locztion of fans I guess you can add George from Thornhill..... I usually just lurk on the list although I do trade tapes of Fruvous, Dan Bern, Dar Williams and lots others with anyone interested in trading.... I don't follow Fruvous around the continent BUT do wind up going to a lot of summer festivals where they are playing.. I will be starting with Clearwater's Great Hudson River Revival in Croton-on-Hudson the Fathers' Day weekend... This is an amazing festival which will be featuring such people as Pete Seeger, Tom Paxton, Kim & Reggie Harris,John Jackson, Nancy Tucker, Christine Lavin, Tish Hinojosa, Country Joe McDonald, Arlo, Guthrie, Tom Chapin, Harlem Blues and Jazz Band, Happy & Artie Traum, John Herald, Magpie, Dar Williams AND Moxy Fruvous..... To find out more about this festival, check out www.clearwater.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:07:13 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory there's at least one frühead in residence on the staff at the cherry hill tower :). i bought all my früvuos CDs there, and every time i walk in, some guy says "hey, the frühead." they're fun people. ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:14:33 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: FruMail, Where Am I, etc Hey folks! Whew! 14+ digests to read since Thurs evening... ahh well. Spent most of the long weekend in Huntington, WV for an SCA event (it was hot, very hot... I actually got driver's tan/sunburn on my left arm... very brown but doesn't sting too much now). Now, for my li'l catching up: 1) I'm Angie, originally [pre-Fruvous] from Buffalo NY (East side, near St. Gerard's on Bailey and Delevan... total inner city brat)- Now residing these last 8 years in _Rochester NY_. 2) Lawrence... that Parody rocked! I never laughed so hard! I can't wait for No No Jar Jar! 3) jess, you and I share the same 1st Live Fru experience! the Manhattan Square Park concert was free and I went on a whim... and look at me now!! hahaha 4) I got my postcard... yay!!!! Very nice picture... and I have to say that I already have captions for them, once I get the scanner working again I'll have to play with it and share :^) BTW, doesn't Murray look like he's striking a "Calvin Klein Just Be" pose? or is it just me? 5) Talking about release parties... that led me on a strange thought journey: If Fruvous Controlled World Geography- Canada annexes Buffalo, Rochester annexes Canada, Philadelphia marches on Pittsburgh... hmmmmm... and I'd throw in a special Fruvous Ferry exclusively for our FruHeads across the pond and down under! 6) Answering Machines: I had You Will Go To The Moon, but people complained they had to wait too long for the beep, so it's back to boring and professional. Usually I think up something around Holiday times, my favorites being around Halloween playing Toccata and Fugue or the Phantom of the Opera Overture in the background... hee hee. 7) There've been a few inquiries as to my copies of RIT 4/9 show. at first I wasn't going to respond before checking with my suppliers... but if I don't now I'll forget. The RIT show was from Paul C Baker, and the U of R show was from Dan Godwin. I'd direct you to them for copies because, well, not sure you'd want a copy of a copy (that has already gotten some _serious_ play time!) I think that's it. Anxiously awaiting 7/3 and hopefully 7/11 (I'm not requesting it off because I am requesting FalconRidge weekend off, plus 1.5 weeks in the beginning of Aug, don't want to push it, ya know?) When I get back we'll dip our cup Into the fountain of youth We'll rest our heads and raise a toast To the sunset's beautiful truth --Moxy Fruvous ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:32:15 GMT From: carrie759@aol.com (Carrie759) Subject: Re: NEXT CD USA? Yea, I heard it was True North as well. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:48:10 GMT From: Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: (OT) Dar Williams and the Neilds Donna wrote: >>Andrea, >> >>I've always heard good things about Dar Williams, but never knew what to >>pick up. Any recommendations? Dar only has 3 albums all of them well worth the money "The Honesty Room" "Mortal City" and "The End of the Summer". I just saw her in TO and her show was funny, sensitive and a lot of fun. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:31:03 GMT From: jbardhan@demon.ceh.servtech.com (Neil Bardhan) Subject: Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:14:33 GMT, Angie Armstrong wrote: >Hey folks! > >Whew! 14+ digests to read since Thurs evening... ahh well. Spent most of the >long weekend in Huntington, WV for an SCA event (it was hot, very hot... "It was hot. My canteen had sprung a leak, and I was thirsty." Cookies[1] to whomever can identify that quote. (this is ridiculously OT). Happy to see my answering machine post created a real thread. Yay, am I accepted into the AMMF family now? Or do I need to drink malt liquor and get spanked? Neil [1] Um, no real cookies will be transferred. It's a nominal thing. Neil Bardhan: stage manager,tape trader,CTY Nevermore,Libertarian,and nice guy http://www.servtech.com/~jbardhan/ Smile at every person you see ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:17:18 -0500 From: "Zainab" Subject: Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc Angie Armstrong sez: >4) I got my postcard... yay!!!! Very nice picture... and I have to say that >I already have captions for them, once I get the scanner working again I'll >have to play with it and share :^) BTW, doesn't Murray look like he's >striking a "Calvin Klein Just Be" pose? or is it just me? LOL! Yeah, what's he doing wearing clothing? He should be in his underwear. Zainab ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 22:56:32 GMT From: Gibbins Christopher <4cg7@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: the new postcard Today i opened up my mailbox which is usually crammed with junk mail. When i lived in Calgary I never got as much of the stuff as when I moved to TO. And instead of the irritating political campaigning materials I've been getting there was a new Fru postcard. So I thought I would start a thread where you imagine what each of the lads is thinking from the picture or write a funny caption. Here are mine Mur: GQ here I come Mike: I think the sky might be falling down, guys? hey guys? Jian: Oh, my appendix. It kills me every time. Dave: And with the final shipment of equipment my plan to rule the world will be complete BWAHAHAHAHAH! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 23:14:13 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: The *Final* Final Total, well at least until the next addition;) In a message dated 99-06-01 17:03:56 EDT, you write: << Okay, I just switched ISPs and so the location has to end because I lost track. Anyway, here is the total of Moxy fans on this newsgroup; 36 USA......*****now 37, updated***** 9 Canada 2 Australia 1 Scotland >> gotta make it 37! ive finally gotten around to answering all of this blooming ammf mail! and *still* no postcard for me:( anyway, i'm in Scarsdale, NY, USA and all titles aside (lori, im thinking of abdicating my throne, the pressure is just too much!), i just wanted to hop onboard this fantastic frutrain and give New York another tiny red dot on the map.... ciao bellini, stay cool, keep out of the sun and don't forget to wear sunscreen( or suffer the consequences! ) see y'all in boston in just 19 days! yes that's right folks...the countdown begins once again! - -debs/sweltering in the Lower Hudson Valley sunstroke sauna sweat fest(but not me of course....oh no, i don't sweat, _I *glow*_) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 23:30:21 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: am i nuts? On Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:04:02 GMT, "Adam Hartfield" wrote: > > >Neil Bardhan wrote in message >news:<375437ca.1478706@ny.news.verio.net>... >> On Mon, 31 May 1999 21:51:29 -0400, "Becca" wrote: > >> That bastion of classic prose, "Getting Results With Microsoft Office >> 97" says that MS Access will help you organize CDs. > >I am anal enough to do that. :) See >http://www.javanet.com/~adamh/mymusic.htm. Beware the first link - it really >*does* lead to a 700 KB HTML file. > >Access did a nice job. Sigh. I really need to enter all the discs I've >bought since last summer. > >--Adam >adamh@javanet.com > I'm in the middle of putting all my CDs in Access. It's a tortuous process, especially when you add all the track titles and times. (I refuse to do times if they're not somewhere in or on the booklet, however....I'm not SO interested in total accuracy that I need to check every track and put the time down. :) ) I think I have about 70 left to do and then I can relax. (Until of course you evil minions introduce me to even more cool music to buy....grrrrr...) Andrea (Still angered at Access for combining my Nields, GBS, and Squeeze albums all called Play into one track-alternating section in the tracks by album report. Double Grrr.) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes, and The Früvous Dance: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 23:23:50 GMT From: McCown Subject: getting OT, Gomez (was, Re: What are you listening to?) >>Re: Gomez, chad wrote: >>>come on over. it's great! :) So Lori asked: >>Okay, Lizzie/Ross/chad, help me out here. I'll like it, but why? >>Is it glam folk-rock? And Ross began to explain... >Erm, I don't think it quite fits into that category... >Not on the cd anyway.. >>In summary, are they "like" anything/one, or completely distinctive >>yet wildly wonderful? >> >>-- Lori, whose CDs-to-buy list is already way too long >That's the one! That last one! Nail on the head! may i add to this? i have a review from "Uncut" magazine...June 1998 (yes, i really tend to save magazines...but it comes in handy! see!) so i will share part of it: "No wonder the people who get what's going on here are raving about Gomez. "Bring It On" is flat-out fabulous. Listening to it is a bit like drowning - only that's not your life flashing in front of your eyes as you go under again, drenched by wave after wave of the record's wayward genius, it's bloody huge chunks of your record collection...In these grooves you can hear Dr. John on the gris-gris voodoo crawl of "get miles," Ben Ottewell's astonishingly gnarled Eddie Vedder-meets-Howlin' Wolf vocals booming out over banks of wah-wah guitar and tympanic Night Tripper percussion. "78 stone wobble," meanwhile, is an irresistable nod towards Captain Beefheart, and "love is better than a warm trombone" inevitably recalls the boho cool of Tom Waits, while the hilariously dishevelled "whippin' piccadilly" is as rambunctious as Beck...Elsewhere, there are hints and glimpses of Tim Buckley, Sly Stone, Warren Zevon, Curtis Mayfield, The Beach Boys, Neil Young, and Creedence, while the LP's dusty down-home atmosphere - lots of acoustic and slide guitars and off-the-cuff harmonies - owes much, unfashionably, to the Grateful Dead of "Working Man's Dead" and "American Beauty" (one of the album's didn't-see-that-coming highlights is the glorious "sugar magnolia" guitar break on "free to run"). The gorgeous cantina tumble and roll of "tijuana lady" suggests that another another inspiration for Gomez has been the f*cked-up, lysergic funk of Little Feat..."Bring It On" brings it all back home, big time and beyond." so, yeah, i don't know if that was helpful, but i tried! love Lizzie ------------------------------ Date: 1 Jun 1999 23:46:53 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory "KatieWow" wrote: > >there's at least one frühead in residence on the staff at the cherry hill >tower :). i bought all my früvuos CDs there, and every time i walk in, some >guy says "hey, the frühead." >they're fun people. >~~kate I bought most my fruvous cd's there. not b or wood but the other 3. Tower is keen! Brian- Declares war on canada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:48:14 -0400 From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Re: Live Noise + Parental Advisory KatieWow wrote in message news:7j1lno$h16$1@autumn.news.rcn.net... > there's at least one frühead in residence on the staff at the cherry hill > tower :). i bought all my früvuos CDs there, and every time i walk in, some > guy says "hey, the frühead." > they're fun people. > ~~kate I checked the LN copy at the Enfield CT Media Play when I was there earlier tonight. No Parental Advisory sticker. They did have all five albums, though. I was impressed. - --Adam bummed that they didn't have the new EFO album adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jun 1999 00:17:08 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: getting OT, Gomez (was, Re: What are you listening to?) Lizzie wrote: Anyway, okay you guys, you're right, this Gomez thing sounds well worth lookin' into.... - -- Lori, counting her shrinking pile o' ducats. Alas, so much music, and only one IRS refund each year. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jun 1999 00:08:35 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: FruMail, Where Am I, etc Zainab dreamed: >>BTW, doesn't Murray look like he's >>striking a "Calvin Klein Just Be" pose? or is it just me? > >LOL! Yeah, what's he doing wearing clothing? >He should be in his underwear. Now there's an evil evil thought ... :> - -- Lori, wishing it felt more like October 'round these parts. Or like June, but June in Ottawa not here. ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Früvous/amm-f factoids galore! (courtesy of Colleen Campbell): http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:46:30 GMT From: "Madd Hatter" Subject: Re: FDC says . . . I'm good with Philly...it's close enough to drive to. Jerry, wishing he were still down the shore on his thurs-fri-sat-sun-mon-tues prom weekend, where there was sun and fun and no school. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:52:56 GMT From: "Madd Hatter" Subject: Re: OT: The Phantom Smarties Trace...where were you down the shore? I was down there thiuweekend and I was disturbed at the WaWa's Jar Jar tounge pops...didn't see Tarzan whatevertheyweres though - -- - ------------------------------------------------------- "Welcome to the Theater, to the magic, to the fun! Where painted trees and flowers grow,and laughter rings fortissimo, and Treachery's sweetly one." -- Lee Adams "Let us pray to God. . .the bastard! He doesn't exist!" - Samuel Beckett (Endgame) Jerry S. Levine Reply to nospam.maddhatter@spamsucks.earthling.net (can you figure out what to remove?) What's that green thing blocking the path? Boom...ow....boom...ow....boom...OW! ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #455 ********************************************