From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #417 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, May 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 417 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: please [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin] Re: New Holland 5/22 (was: possession and such) [katrin@dimensional.com (] Why I my parents should have had sex *sooner*..(wasFruvousDream) [SkyStar] Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: [SkySta] Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 [Paul Mischler ] Re: Why I my parents should have had sex *sooner*..(wasFruvousDream) ["A.] Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger)] THE RULES HAVE CHANGED! [34754.3136@compuserve.com] Re: The Utica Moxy-Mute [Leah ] Re: King of Spain [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: [jkpolk] Re: jian in my house ["Leah Bender" ] Re: The Nields sink to a new low! [Ellen ] Re: The Nields sink to a new low! :) LOL! [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm998] ADV: your web site [sales@ns1.submissionservice.com] Re: The Nields sink to a new low! [hKath ] Re: ADV: your web site [Chad Maloney ] Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 [Daniel Lerner ] god said ha! [Ellen ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:26:42 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: please In article <3740d845.17485041@news.remarq.com>, seqiro@ct2.nai.net says... > Well how about that, my glasses are swell! And my mom thinks they > make me look like a dork. Shows you what she knows! Whoohoo, let's hear it for dorky glasses! I love mine! k@ They just don't look right with the current haircut, though :( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:30:56 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: New Holland 5/22 (was: possession and such) Totally off topic... The word "possession" in the topic of this thread, even though the subject's long past, still never fails to make me think the post is about either a) ownership of illegal substances or b) having one's body taken over by demonic forces. And since there's not a snowball's chance of my making it to the New Holland show, I guess all that just helps the thread hold my interest. k@ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:33:50 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Why I my parents should have had sex *sooner*..(wasFruvousDream) In a message dated 5/17/99 10:34:35 PM EST, jessika@ecn.ab.ca writes: << The last two Fru-shows I saw in Montreal are an interesting contrast. '93 or '94 - 5,000 (or so) seater, sold-out, all-ages show at Le Spectrum. '95 - 350 (or so) seater, half-empty, 18+ show at Club Soda. The Spectrum show was when I swore I would never again go to a Fruvous all-ages show. Anyone remember a group that called themselves the "Moxy Morons"? A bunch of TO-area based kids (they looked to be 14-16) who followed Fru around..........I don't recall why he was using "monogamy" and "polygamy" but the way they were shrieking at everything, we all got the impression they were yelling at anything that came out of his mouth, whether they understood it or not. He finally told them to read a dictionary. (Everyone over 18 in the hall snickered) >> ......I am 16 (going on 17..aren't musicals just the swellest??) and at the moment i'm writing a short story for my comparitive religions class back at my high school, where i am currently completing my junior year, but ive decided to take a respite to respond to your post's allegations that anyone under the age of 18 is a *Moxy Moron*(you're words, not mine)....i have the distinctly 16 year-oldish urge to just simply respond with the ubiquitous, but succinct, rebutal of "bite me"....but i fear that that would only add fuel to your fire. I'm *sure* that I'm not the only one here under the golden age of 18 who was offended, at least a little bit, by your remarks.(joni darling, *now* is the time for you to delurk;)...im not going to say a lot, b/c i still have crazy amounts of work to do, but the bottom line is this: there are just as many crazy fanatical adults who obsess over stupid randomness as there are teenagers! i absolutely abhore being carelessly lumped in with the teeming masses of teenyboppers who rant and scream and get all jiggy-like for those talentless boy bands with *totally* way beyond crazy sexy fab boys all whom seem to be named either justin or brian or some annoyingly sugary compilation of the following intitials: T, J, A, S, P and/or R.....ugh! it makes me want to scream that in order for any of my thoughts or opinions, musically inclined or otherwise, to be taken with any degree of seriousness and respect, i need to have been born in 1980. So what if my drivers license says 8-2-82....my brain is perfectly valid, and other than the occasional meltdown for IWHO or Michael Vartan, I am a competent, articulate individual who happens to have to use fake id in order to get into clubs that refuse to agree with me. *so sue me!*(uhoh:)...i feel a G&D ref coming on....must ....supress...) anyway, i just think that it sucks for you to say that. it made me feel really bad...you were 16 too once! we're not all screaming lunatics with shrill highpitched voices like parakeets on crack, and giant size posters of Robbie Williams on our walls( now, that's fiona's domain ;).....that's all I'm trying to say!...i mean cut us some slack that out parents decided to not have sex untill 1981... so rah rah underagers! we only have to pay 18$ for FRFF!...and it's a good thing too,...my b*day is the week after! happy thoughts and fairy dust - -deb *If you're willing to take a leap of faith, get off your butt..who knows what's out there waiting for you* -Endless Summer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:42:23 GMT From: SkyStar117@aol.com Subject: Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: In a message dated 5/17/99 11:33:56 PM EST, katrin@dimensional.com writes: << > Well how about that, my glasses are swell! And my mom thinks they > make me look like a dork. Shows you what she knows! Whoohoo, let's hear it for dorky glasses! I love mine! >> actuallement, paul's were kinda intimidating...i was nervous to talk to him @ first...tres hip - -deb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:16:59 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 This year, the weather has cooperated, and there are many, many lilacs. (Last year, they bloomed a bit early, but this year, they're pretty much right on time :-) - -Paul KatieWow wrote: > i'll go if there are lilacs :). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 06:28:34 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Why I my parents should have had sex *sooner*..(wasFruvousDream) SkyStar117@aol.com wrote: > ......I am 16 (going on 17..aren't musicals just the swellest??) and at the > moment i'm writing a short story for my comparitive religions class back at > my high school, where i am currently completing my junior year, but ive > decided to take a respite to respond to your post's allegations that anyone > under the age of 18 is a *Moxy Moron*(you're words, not mine)....i have the > distinctly 16 year-oldish urge to just simply respond with the ubiquitous, > but succinct, rebutal of "bite me"....but i fear that that would only add > fuel to your fire. I'm *sure* that I'm not the only one here under the golden > age of 18 who was offended, at least a little bit, by your remarks. Deb, Nobody even implied that you are somehow lesser because of your age. I hate to sound like an adult, but it is you protestations of the (perceived) insult that make you sound like a "Teenybopper" That being said, let me try to show you how you misread the original post. > In a message dated 5/17/99 10:34:35 PM EST, jessika@ecn.ab.ca writes: > << The last two Fru-shows I saw in Montreal are an interesting contrast. > '93 or '94 - 5,000 (or so) seater, sold-out, all-ages show at Le Spectrum. > '95 - 350 (or so) seater, half-empty, 18+ show at Club Soda. > The Spectrum show was when I swore I would never again go to a Fruvous > all-ages show. Anyone remember a group that called themselves the "Moxy > Morons"? A bunch of TO-area based kids (they looked to be 14-16) who followed > Fru around..........I don't recall why he was using "monogamy" and "polygamy" > but the way they were shrieking at everything, we all got the impression they > were yelling at anything that came out of his mouth, whether they understood > it or not. He finally told them to read a dictionary. (Everyone over 18 in > the hall snickered) >> She didn't call you a Moxy Moron. She referred us to a group of Toronto teenagers in 1993 who called THEMSELVES the Moxy Morons. (These same teens would be 19 or 20 year old adults now btw). Jessika's point was not that all teens are screaming meemeeies fit only to listen to NKOTB or Hansen. Her point was about the type of fan that Fruvous attracted back in 1993-94. In those days the band was heavily pushed by Warner Canada, and the had videos running frequently on Much Music (a Canadian MTV-style channel). That kind of exposure combined with the comic nature of much of the Bargainville material naturally brought them a big following of (in your words) "teeming masses of teenyboppers who rant and scream and get all jiggy-like for those talentless boy bands with *totally* way beyond crazy sexy fab boys all whom seem to be named either justin or brian or some annoyingly sugary compilation of the following intitials: T, J, A, S, P and/or R." Jessika's point was that it wasn't fun to go to shows with fans like that because they were rude, and obnoxious and didn't really "get" Fruvous' music. It was not an attack on teenagers in general. She said she much preferred the smaller and more respectful "older" crowd they drew in '95 but again the point is that the band was drawing a different type of fan. NOT that Teens are somehow all airheads. > ....ugh! it makes me want to scream that in order for any of my > thoughts or opinions, musically inclined or otherwise, to be taken with any > degree of seriousness and respect, i need to have been born in 1980. That is preposterous. Your thoughts and opinions have been and will continue to be taken VERY seriously by the people in this newsgroup, so long as they are presented in a thoughtful and mature manner. However, having been 16 once (and remembering what it was like) many of the adults on this news group will be unable to do anything but roll their eyes when you start ranting about your age. That kind of ranting is a sure sign of a hormonally charged teen with a big chip on their shoulder. I know, because I used to BE ONE once upon a time. :) Anyway I hope that clears things up. A.J. - -- Mariaweb last updated 5/13/99. See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1999 06:36:38 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 >i'll go if there are lilacs :). there are plenty of lilacs. :) i was just down there today. but i find this years musical performance selection to be pretty "blah." ..no moxy. :P i figure, once you've seen a lilac, you've seen 'em all, eh? ;) but driving through the festivities is kinda neat. sarah http://members.aol.com/limezinger linnellgirl@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216 "intelligence is a bitch when you're tired." - ken finkleman, newsroom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:30:57 GMT From: 34754.3136@compuserve.com Subject: THE RULES HAVE CHANGED! 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Myself, I'm going for math (at SU also) Leah ------------------------------ Date: 17 May 1999 23:32:35 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: King of Spain Hey, if you want a true experience, go stand at Queen and Bay (but not during rush hour, trust me... I was there today, totally forgetting that the provincial party leaders are campaigning tonight at CityTV - campaign buses, police men and media galore, not to mention commuters and regular traffic. ARGH!) Once you've had your fill of that, head on down to the Organ Grinder - the restaurant. Great spaghetti place which I can't *believe* I'd forgotten to mention - until now... :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:31:33 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: attention 2 people from the 5/8mf-5/15 tmbg bowery show line: On Tue, 18 May 1999 04:42:23 GMT, SkyStar117@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 5/17/99 11:33:56 PM EST, katrin@dimensional.com writes: > ><< > > Well how about that, my glasses are swell! And my mom thinks they > > make me look like a dork. Shows you what she knows! > > Whoohoo, let's hear it for dorky glasses! I love mine! >> > >actuallement, paul's were kinda intimidating...i was nervous to talk to him @ >first...tres hip >-deb I helped pressure him into getting them...I like the Elvis Costello look. :) (And like 5 years ago I would have thought it was hideous...am I a slave to fashion or what?? Sigh. :) ) Andrea - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes, and The Früvous Dance: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:55 GMT From: "Leah Bender" Subject: Re: jian in my house Heehee! Ever think that you have the wrong sister? I'll trade mine for yours.... gladly.... umm... hehe My Jian obsession has gone to the point of silliness... I was bored last night, so I used CorelPhotoPaint and made a Jian collage..... oy - -Bender >From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmm (LimeZinger) >To: ammf@fruvous.com >Subject: jian in my house >Date: 18 May 1999 02:37:47 GMT > >hehheh. > >my little sister, amy -- jian's #1 pre-teen fan -- won a goldfish at a >local carnival. and she named it jian. it's somewhat amusing hearing: >"mom, >did you feed jian this morning?" ... hehe. > >i think pisco would have been more appropriate a name, but hey.. > > >sarah >http://members.aol.com/limezinger >linnellgirl@tmbg.org * icq #26873712 * mstie #77216 >"intelligence is a bitch when you're tired." - ken finkleman, newsroom _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:43:29 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: The Nields sink to a new low! In article <7hqm3m$gek$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hKath wrote: > Turns out it's a compilation > issued especially for Starbucks, ladies and gentlemen. Music to Drink Mass-Produced Coffee Drinks By. Music to Appear Hip, and Yet Mature, To. Music to Soothe Your Caffeine-Injected Nerves. Music for Generation Latte Collect the Whole Set! > hK, still awed by 'God Said, "Ha!"', really? hmmmm. i thought it was pretty good, but not awe-inspiring. she's a good storyteller, but it seemed a little forced in places, to me. like she needed to be An Inspiration to Us All with her ability to see The Humor in it All. *shrug* i dunno, maybe i liked it better when i first walked out of the theater, but have gotten more jaded since then. ;) peace, ellen *************************************************** The point of the journey is not to arrive. - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- - ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.--- ------------------------------ Date: 18 May 1999 13:50:47 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: The Nields sink to a new low! :) LOL! hKath alleged: >OK, so here's the story. >Marie-Claude and I pop into Chapters bookstore tonight after missing a >bus. The Chapters is connected to a Starbucks. one of my very favorite Chapters/Starbucks locations. (walking distance from practically everything -- most convenient.) From the Starbucks is >coming a song I know so well that I don't even react to it until MC >goes "Oh, dear." Turns out the stereo is blasting "Easy People", a >Nields song. My very very favorite Nields song too. I like this post. We turn to the Starbucks guy and freak out, yelling "Are >you guys playing a Nields album???" This is, after all, our first time >hearing the Nields in any kind of public place. He looks back, and >after a big dramatic pause goes "Huh?". Turns out it's a compilation >issued especially for Starbucks, ladies and gentlemen. > >I guess someone won't be too happy ;) ahh, he's all talk. He's been known to frequent the same chain, according to US sources. :P >hK, still awed by 'God Said, "Ha!"', which she and MC saw tonight :) Where's it playing? The NAC? - -- Lori, feeling whimsical ******************************* Lori's Strange and Wonderful World! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html Früvous/amm-f factoids galore! (courtesy of Colleen Campbell): http://www.fruvous.com/news/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:50:49 GMT From: sales@ns1.submissionservice.com Subject: ADV: your web site This email is being sent in compliance with all state and federal laws. You can remove your email address by returning this email with the word remove in the "SUBJECT FIELD" or by calling toll free 800-771-2003. 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In article <7hrqq1$871$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Ellen wrote: > Music to Drink Mass-Produced Coffee Drinks By. > Music to Appear Hip, and Yet Mature, To. > Music to Soothe Your Caffeine-Injected Nerves. > Music for Generation Latte Music To Piss Off Drummers To? > > hK, still awed by 'God Said, "Ha!"', > > really? hmmmm. i thought it was pretty good, but not awe-inspiring. > she's a good storyteller, but it seemed a little forced in places, to me. like she needed to be An Inspiration to Us All with her ability to see > The Humor in it All. *shrug* i dunno, maybe i liked it better when i > first walked out of the theater, but have gotten more jaded since then. > ;) really? hmmmm. I didn't feel at all preached to or like she was showing off or anything. She reminded me a lot of when I talk to myself ;) hKath Unless the bitterness comes later :) - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- - ---Share what you know. 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Created through all natural processes (that Chad Mahoney doesn't want to think about at all), Dr. Butterworth's patented Chad Mahoney is all natural and contains no preservatives or additives. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:36:28 -0400 From: Daniel Lerner Subject: Re: OT(?) lilac fest '99 who is performing this year at it? - -- "If cloning is outlawed then only outlaws will have clones" Sifyl humor of Dan and Stan: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/worldupsidedown RITCK Online: http://www.angelfire.com/ny/ritcirclek ICQ: 6976841 IM: wwwwud ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:40:32 GMT From: Ellen Subject: god said ha! In article <7hs24s$d5s$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, hKath wrote: > really? hmmmm. I didn't feel at all preached to or like she was showing > off or anything. She reminded me a lot of when I talk to myself ;) no, it wasn't preachiness so much as it felt programmed... like, she'd turn to a different camera and the lighting would change, and it felt like there should be one of those silent movie-stlye captions reading, A Moment of Levity in the Midst of the Turmoil, or Now Julia Will Say Something That Will Make You Cry. i do think she told her story well. i just didn't feel like any of her thoughts were spontaneous. but maybe they weren't supposed to be. peace, ellen (eh, whaddo *i* know?) *************************************************** The point of the journey is not to arrive. - --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- - ---Share what you know. Learn what you don't.--- ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #417 ********************************************