From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #392 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, May 9 1999 Volume 03 : Number 392 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Met Cafe Quasi-Review ["KatieWow" ] Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) [Cheesemaker Gem ] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) [Revel] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [jessika@ecn.ab.ca ()] The frustrations of Fruvous in Los Angeles [hero93@aol.com (Hero93)] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [tmbgirl@juno.com] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Maxwell's 5/8/99 Set List [scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke)] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) ["A.J.] Re: The frustrations of Fruvous in Los Angeles [garitrn@aol.com (Garit RN] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [shalini trivedi ] (no subject) [Blushooz@aol.com] Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) [tmbgirl@juno.com] Re: Hoboken (New Jersey becomes Fru Jersey) [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@q] Re: T-shirts [tmbgirl@juno.com] faves, desires, and such [Angie Armstrong ] Re: T-shirts [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Re: Feminism (was: BREAST SIZE) [Eve Lauria ] Re: faves, desires, and such [Eve Lauria ] Re: (no subject) [StarflashJ@aol.com] Re: short...(was t-shirts) [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 03:22:47 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Met Cafe Quasi-Review well, kevin and i made the trek to providence for the show--and what a show it was. i spent all day thursday baking up scores of cookies and packed some away in a star wars gift bag left over from my father's last birthday and some in a big ziploc bag and we motored toward rhode island. upon arriving in providence we promptly got lost then righted ourselves and headed over to the venue. we headed inside to inquire about purchasing tickets and found cal and tobey readying the stage. i handed tobey the cookies, and he promptly shoved aside the purple tissue paper to look at them and announced "cal--cookies!" cal seemed pleased. after decrying jersey turnpike food and using the met's restrooms, we were told that the tickets available at the bar were sold out but that there were plenty available at the door. so kevin and i jaunted off to get some food then rejoined the line already in progress. i ran to the car passing by a crowd forming for tower of power at ludo's (sp?) and gave some of the club employee's hanging around outside the door a couple of the snacks. i got back in line and distributed them freely, in the process meeting michelle from boston, bearer of the lawn gnomes. we discussed susan werner and such things, and watched jian attempt to bust open the locked club door by force of his weight and mike walk by stuffing his face with cookies. eventually we were let in and claimed some space stage murray. we then waited for an eternity and were joined by norg, cee cee, vika, caitlin, and chris. marc cutler, the first opener, was amusing, and jess klein was lovely as always. just before früvous' set started, colleen claimed a chair by tobey at the merch stand and chris and vika retreated to the middle of the room for taping purposes. norg and i talked first frü-experiences and chapman sticks and eventually the guys took the stage. they seemed in good spirits, though jian seemed a little down and was rubbing his eyes quite a bit. allergies, perhaps. regardless, his mood couldn't have been helped by the two very loud drunk men who shouted something just as the guys came on-stage. the first words out of jian's mouth all night were "macho drunks here to ruin our night." sucky way to start a night. according to murray's setlist (the medium of which will be discussed later): michy jockey splatter horse(shoes) (i will) hold (on) rush [greatest man in america] (you will go to the) moon turin [present tense tureen] (johnny) sauce(p'n) boo (time) sad (girl) king pisco early (morning rain) authors (get in the) car (your new) boy(friend) psycho (killer) e1: billie jean [ed. note: according to COM, FDC does not recognize the alternate spelling 'billie jian' :)] e2: calling on the chia pets, a full rendition of david bowie's 'kooks' from "hunky dory" (according to jian, his third best album, behind any two of the 1977-78 releases, "heroes," "lodger," or "low" though "lodger" came out in '79 :). drinking song the crowd was pretty damn disruptive, though not quite as outrightly rude as the utica crowd. most of the shouts from the audience got an "okay" from jian. chris had an irate tale of his attempts to tape as a bunch of people yakked their heads off around him. they got theirs when the band asked where the webmaster was and chris raised his hand. up in front things were fine, but apparently as one approached the rear of the venue the crowd got successively noisier, talking during 'early morning rain,' even. the crowd turned a new ear, however, after GMIA and were substantially more cooperative. one pair of men at the bar, however, were so loud during the 'psycho killer' intro that jian encouraged the crowd to be quiet and listen to their conversation. notable banter: after 'jockey' jian took an informal location poll. he noted that at their met cafe shows the crowd tends to be drawn primarily from places other than rhode island. they asked for people from NJ, MA, NY, and CO (yes, colorado). someone asked why not CT, and they answered that they dislike CT for political reasons--for what they did to jim morisson in new haven, specifically. then someone shouted that they should play a song for rochester, to which they replied that all of their songs are for rochester, and in fact, moxy früvous means 'i love rochester' in gaelic. they mentioned that it's obvious that the shouter is relatively unfamiliar with the band because he didn't know that they play in rochester after every other show. somehow they got on the subject of being glad that they didn't like johnson city, TX as much and began a jam about the birthplaces of shitty presidents. it was decided that millard (pronounced millARD) fillmore was their favorite president, and (after much deliberation) that rutherford b. hayes was america's only non-white president. "bring your kids to früvous for a lesson on the presidents." they noted that the sun cutout on the wall of the venue was neither smiling nor frowning, and that the masks on the reparatory theater around the corner were similarly non-committal, leading them to dub providence the "city of ambivalence." there was talk of being able to hear tower of power through the shared wall. when they came back on-stage to do the first encore, they discussed how nice their fans were, leading jian to make what i perceived to be a newsgroup reference when he sang "nice is different than good" and noted that the encore would be the libretto of 'into the woods' at which point i screwmed my fool head off. mike noted that all the sondheim fans were in the first row. there was a lot more, but i'm freakin' tired. all the guys came out to talk afterward and stuck around forever, long past the staff yelling at us all to get out. i had grabbed murray's setlist and inquired about the paper on which it had been written--a page torn out of a very strange magazine. he ran to his bag and pulled the magazine out for me to page through as he signed the setlist. it was called "weird NJ" and was concerned with weird things in new jersey. nothing about medford, alas. murray encouraged me to check out the website (www.weirdnj.com), so i guess i'll encourage you to do the same. we finally got out of there around 2:00 after saying our goodbyes. that's it :). hoboken review as soon as i get around to it :). ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:29:13 GMT From: Cheesemaker Gem Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) - --- Daniel Lerner wrote: > I agree with Jen, red heads are definately the best. > oddly enough, i've > always found blondes least attractive. maybe its > just me. > > green eyes are good too. or hazel. :) everyone says they like green eyes. I have green eyes, and Im glad to say they are the features i like best aboot my appearence. - -jen === The World's Shortest Pessimistic Poem: Hope? Nope. - -Robert Zeal _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 02:54:03 GMT From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote: : I, too, find it difficult to deal with dating guys who are shorter than : me. Maybe it stems from the fact that every guy shorter than me thus far I've done it, and I don't have aproblem with it. Guess it depends on whether or not you are comfortable with your height. My formal date was about two inches shorter than me ((before I put on the heals and had my hair in an updo!!) : But I also find it uncomfortable to be in a whole group of people who are : significantly shorter than I. First, I can't ever make eye contact with For four years, I have lived with 5 terrific friends. All who average 5'2". I am 5'9". I stick out like crazy in an group shot. But I also get to play games like "hide the cookies on the top shelf". Size doesn't bother me. But I've always been the tallest person in a group (since grade school), so I'm used to it. I'm also the tallest in my family (inclduing my brother who is 3 inches shorter than me), so go figure. Sara _______ The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat. ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 99 09:18:35 GMT From: jessika@ecn.ab.ca () Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) shalini trivedi (trivedi1@students.uiuc.edu) wrote: : i guess i should count my lucky stars though. i've surpassed my mummy's : height by at lesat 6 inches, and i'm only a couple inches shorter than my : dad.....why do some families get all the height? :) My parents are both genealogists. Through them, I've discovered that except for our branch of the family, both sides tend to be in the six-foot range. This caused me to be more than slightly disgruntled. :) I'm 5'5" (I am! Last two measurements, a year apart but coincidentally by the same woman despite the fact one was for an insurance physical and one at a doctor's office, first time she said I was 5'4", the second 5'3.5". I wonder what she has against me... :) ) Only my dad's taller than me. I've been this height since age 12. Then, I was the second-tallest kid in school. (The only one taller than me is a girl who topped out at 6'1".) By grade 10, some friends took to calling me "full-grown mouse." *sigh* mouse'ka - -- Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/4762 Northern Harmony Canadian A Cappella Festival, 1999 in Edmonton * Try your hand at a cappella trivia - http://www.a-cappella.com * ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 09:58:51 GMT From: hero93@aol.com (Hero93) Subject: The frustrations of Fruvous in Los Angeles So... I was just tonight going to post how it really sucked about Moxy's LA show at the Roxy 'cause now I'm in a bigger Fruvous withdrawl than EVER before. How it would have almost been preferable to NOT have seen them live - or even have them come to Los Angeles, for that matter - since they're never gonna get back here in, like, a million years... and now, unlike before, I KNOW WHAT I'M MISSING. How ignorance, is indeed, bliss. And then, just 'cause I hadn't checked it in about a week or so, I went to Fruvous.com... no real reason, just to look at all those tour dates for all those shows hundreds, nay, thousands of miles away from me... sigh. And there is was! They're coming back! NEXT MONTH!!! June 8. House of Blues in Los Angeles. LOS ANGELES again!! Can it really be so? Are they realy coming back to LA that soon? Before their new CD is even released? Please, someone, tell me this isn't a cruel joke being played by an evil webmaster. Oh joy. Oh rapture. - -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 10:45:17 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) >short at 5'8"? NO FAIR! at 5'2.5" (the half inch is IMPORTANT) i >haven't >grown at all since i was 12 (i'm now 20). i have a friend who'll run >up >to me and pick me up just because he can... :P okay... let's see here. i'm 5'7" and happy. my boyfriend is 6'7" Which,ya know... i just end up staring at his chest/stomach non-stop and well... hey... if i ever get lice or something (ew!) i'm sure he'll be able to be the first to tell me since he stares at the top of my head. my buds make fun of us non-stop cuz we look so detarded standing next to each other and what not. The running joke is to ask Steve (that's my bf) if he's seeing a chiropractor... due to the fact that he has to lean over to kiss me. (yeahyeah... that's what we get for kissin in public) *grin* Anyways, for any of you at the Frushow on the 10th (that would be of June... in Boulder). Come say "hey" to us. We'll be up in the leper colony... or at least he will cuz he doesn't have a fake ID. (ouch... that would be dissed... ditching him with the lepers while i go chill downstairs!) Anyways... last i knew he had bleach blonde hair but i think he said he dyed it tonight so... ya never know what color is next :D take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 13:40:59 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) One of the things I always liked about being 5-2 was having a wider range of boyfriends available, and I always liked short guys ... funny thing was that my boyfriend in college was 6-7 and so we made quite a pair. Hubby is 5-11 and Dana the Fruprincess is praying she's "tall like daddy" so she can play in the WNBA. Hard to tell -- on the one hand she's the shortest kid in her 3rd grade class but her feet are pretty big -- she's wearing a size 1 already, while I recall still being a 12 while in 4th grade, so who knows? Lil QL ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 13:48:13 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) I was wondering how long it would take before we got around to the Jian vs. Murray thread (for the record, Fruprincess Dana adores Jian and I'll plead the fifth). As more of a music/baseball chick than a movie-goer, I'll throw in Kasim Sulton (Todd Rundgren's bass player) who still looks the same in his early 40s as he did in his early 20s and I want to know where HE drinks from the fountain of youth; Bela Fleck; and Gerry Beckley from America (I know they may be cheesy but when I was 15 I ran up on stage at the Felt Forum in NYC and kissed him) who is still adorable after all these years and he's gotta be closing in on 50. As far as baseball goes, and of course I never look in the locker room so this is based purely on IN UNIFORM, I have to go with Rockies pitcher Jamey Wright (there's a reason his nickname on the team is Big Handsome -- his eyes are flat out turquoise), Ron Gant and Jeff Manto (he's with Buffalo now). Feeling I've said far too much, QL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 15:30:07 GMT From: scoper@netcom.com (Scott Perschke) Subject: Maxwell's 5/8/99 Set List The set list from Maxwell's, without comment: Half As Much Horseshoes You Can't Be Too Careful If Only You Knew You Will Go To The Moon When She Talks Pisco Bandito Splatter Splatter Michigan Militia Johnny Saucep'n Independence Day Sad Eyes River Valley Get In The Car Psycho Killer Encores: King of Spain I Will Hold On My Poor Generation ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:47:19 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) hKath wrote: > I don't know, but for me it's not just guys. I have a lot of trouble acting > normal with people who are shorter than me - they make me uncomfortable and > awkward. Thank god I'm only 5'3" tall! But I don't think it's a boob thing... > I don't really care if someone looks at my breasts, whether they're looking > down or straight ahead while they do it. Ok guys, did you read that? We all now have carte blanche to look at hKatherine's Bosom! :) Seriously though, hK I think that is just a matter of what one is used to. I have the same problem, only in reverse. I'm 6'2" and I get really nervous around people who are taller than me. Especially if they are MUCH taller. I'm just not used to looking up at people. A.J. - -- See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 16:16:38 GMT From: garitrn@aol.com (Garit RN) Subject: Re: The frustrations of Fruvous in Los Angeles Well...it'll be a short show. They're opening for G Love and Special Sauce Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 11:25:53 -0500 From: shalini trivedi Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) as far as boyfriends go, height is no object...i never really minded. actually, i never really minded being short (other than having to keep a stool in the kitchen to reach the higher shelves) until people began picking me up and such when i got to college. i have a 6'2" guy friend who like to remind me i'm exactly one foot shorter than him....but that's okay...i just remindhim that he went his entire first semester in the dorms without washing his sheets once (he now calls me every other week to inform me he's washed his sheets...yes carol...it's mau teehee.) ************************************************ * "...not in the * Shalini Trivedi * * American sense; * Chemical Engineering * * that would be * College of LAS * * insane!" *University of Illinois* * - Jian Ghomeshi * Urbana-Champaign * ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:17:53 GMT From: Blushooz@aol.com Subject: (no subject) what about Clearwater? anybody goin? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:08:41 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: Personal Favs (was TCAT) > Rockies pitcher Jamey >Wright >(there's a reason his nickname on the team is Big Handsome -- his eyes >are flat >out turquoise While we're talking about gorgeous eyes and colorado professional sports players (ok so i'm onto the avs now)... can i just say PETER FORSBERG? :D In fact, some of my buds have all these theories about sweedish and canadian men... *grin* take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 17:00:38 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Hoboken (New Jersey becomes Fru Jersey) The Toolman innocently said: >3) Kelsey is in love with the entire band, but I think Jian is her >favorite (must be those puppy-dog eyes..) ... which made me laugh *very* hard because Kelsey is the name of my cocker spaniel, who has amazing puppy dog eyes - I know that's not what you meant, but that's how I first read it, and it made me laugh. Very cute dog, though... blond with white freckles on her nose, floppy ears and big sad eyes... :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:23:31 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: T-shirts >> ... like being flat out told that I was really good looking, >> but far too tall and therefore intimidating for anyone to approach >> me... > >Ohmygod, people really do that to you? That's horrible! now wait a minute!!! i was totally too intimidated to approach my bf (member he's 6'7" and i'm a foot shorter than him). I don't think that's a bad thing... it just meant that he had to take the initiative, ya know? "---- said that you would be cute >and >he might even go out with you, if you would just lose some weight." kat, i think every female hears the "you should lose some weight" line at least once in their life. I hope you didn't listen to 'em... you're one of the most gorgeous women in all of colorado (okay so that's my opinion... a chick's opinion but ya know... i'm jealous) *grin* I mean before LA when ya told tyler and me how old you were... i was shocked to see ya cuz you don't look anywhere near it. i'm babbling... but seriously one of my buds even commented on your eyes (geez, i'm so making us sound like we're gay... honest... we're each happily involved with guys... no need to worry!) when she saw ya :D take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 17:43:32 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: faves, desires, and such I've actually put some thought into my fave hotties, only because I have to consider _why_ they are faves... One of the things I've discovered is that many times its a character I fall for, not necessarily the actor. After seeing "With Honors" I fell hard for Brendan Fraser. One thatI hadn't seen or heard before was Freddie Prinze, Jr. He was in "Wing Commander" which my friend dragged me off to see. Some personalities that just get better with age: Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, Anthony Hopkins, Sam Neill (Hunt for Red October and Jurassic Park)... a lot of it has to do with their character choices as well... As far as _characters_ go: Jack Dawson from Titanic. Leo DiC annoys the hell out of me, but there was something appealing about his character Neo & Morpheus from the Matrix. Ok, I have this guilty pleasure soft spot for Keanu Reeves, and Lawrence Fishburne in general is amazing actor... so sue me ;^) There are more, but all of a sudden i can't recall (listening to the RIT show, it's distracting me). As far as favorite FrüLad? Hmm, that fluctuates from encounter to encounter. Jian definitely has the charisma to draw you in... especially with that smile and those eyes. I have to say, though... There's just "something" about Dave (I'm sure the super-squeeze hug he gave me at Utica had something to do with it). Everytime I talk to Dave, i never feel giddy or stupid or nervous... and I always leave with warm feeling and a smile. He's the first autograph I ever got, almost two years ago... and he's the one I always most look forward to seeing after the show. Actually... my favorite Frü would be Tobey, cause I naturally spend more time with him (and he approves of my taste in greasy spoons and diners!) It's hard to pick a fave, because they are all incredible... together and individually. Anyway, this post isn't turning out like I intended, but it's getting posted anyway Oh yeah... beautiful/talented women: Catherine Zeta-Jones (I want her hair...) Kate Winslet Vivica E. Fox Vanessa Williams (tho she didn't look her best in "Dance with me") Gillian Anderson (yeah, she pouts and purses her lips a little too much... but it's forgivable) again, because I'm trying to think of them, I can't think of them (it's like someone saying, "oh, you sing? sing something" and every song you know empties out of your head) oh well... - --Angie (who, as a saving grace to her hair woes _does_ have reddish brown highlights... and hopefully will get enough sun this summer to set those highlights ablaze, hee hee we'll see by Ft. Erie) "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:21 -0600 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: T-shirts In article <19990509.111153.15398.1.TMBgirl@juno.com>, tmbgirl@juno.com says... > kat, i think every female hears the "you should lose some weight" line at > least once in their life. I hope you didn't listen to 'em... you're one > of the most gorgeous women in all of colorado (okay so that's my > opinion... a chick's opinion but ya know... i'm jealous) No way! Really? Jeez, this from the perky little chyk with the gorgeous long blonde hair - you're the type that bands *like* to see dancing in the front row, while they're wishing that strange overdressed woman with the geek glasses would stop taking up so much space. > *grin* I mean > before LA when ya told tyler and me how old you were... i was shocked to > see ya cuz you don't look anywhere near it. I'm just really *immature* for my age. It's a blessing and a curse. > i'm babbling... but > seriously one of my buds even commented on your eyes (geez, i'm so making > us sound like we're gay... honest... we're each happily involved with > guys... no need to worry!) when she saw ya :D Wow, cool...you realize this is going to elicit the obligatory snide comment from Tom. Anyway, enough of the mutual admiration society. See you at the Fox, you fox. 33 days! k@ older than God (but only by about 6 months) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:56:48 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Feminism (was: BREAST SIZE) > Go take your shoes off, eat some bon-bons, and wash some dishes. > > Grr. Should I be offended? *innocent eyes and halo* Eve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:55:37 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: faves, desires, and such Angie says: > After seeing "With Honors" I fell hard for Brendan Fraser. One thatI hadn't With Honors was a decent movie. Mostly, Brendan Fraser is in bad movies; I was flipping channels last night and I found one with Ricki Lake and him, and it was bad but I had to watch because I find Brendan Fraser so incredibly beautiful. That's fantasy material for a good week and a half. *sigh...* > Jack Dawson from Titanic. Leo DiC annoys the hell out of me, but there was > something appealing about his character Have you seen _Total Eclipse_? I wouldn't really even reccomend it but it's almost worth it just to see Leo kissing a amn. After the last concert I went to (FruCon in Feb.) I thought that I was all for Murray, and I still think he's the cutest, especially in one of the photos I took of him. But I kept having naughty thoughts about Dave. I don't know; maybe Murray just seems to pure (though I'm sure he's not). Eve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:11:50 GMT From: StarflashJ@aol.com Subject: Re: (no subject) I wanna go to clearwater cause im in NY, but i don't know when Fruvous is gonna be playing and how i can get tickets!! AHHHHHHH! laters! ------------------------------ Date: 9 May 1999 20:29:03 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: short...(was t-shirts) I am perfectly willing to donate a portion of my height to anyone who wants it. :) It's not that I want to be short - I've always thought that 5'7 or 5'8 would be perfect... tall enough to reach top shelves, but not so tall that all you can see if the tops of peoples's heads. I was said height for about a week when I was 12. I only wish I were kidding. I have a friend who is about 6'6, and I *love* standing next to him... first time I've felt short in my life. It's not that I'm uncomfortable with my height - the absolute shortest person in my extended family is about 5'6. Except for the baby, but he doesn't count! :) It's just that other people feel the need to make it an issue. One guy that I dated *one time* then proceeded to tell me that I couldn't wear the new heels I got (which I love - they're just like the black ones Gwyneth Paltrow is wearing in "Sliding Doors") because they made me too tall (ie taller than him) and he was uncomfortable about that. I solved that problem by never going out with him again, and wearing the heels to work almost everyday from that point on! :) Same thing when I put on heels with my formal dress this spring - absolutely everyone told me I shoudln't wear them because they made me "huge". I wore them anyway and had quite possibly one of the best times of my life. But still... it really bugs me that people seem to think that I should go out of my way to make myself shorter. It took me a very long time t be able to say "screw it, I'm taller than everyone anyway, on with the heels 'cause at this point it doesn't matter". And Kat, you're being silly. Stop it. You're gorgeous. That is all; I won't hear another word on the subject. :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario | ICQ#: 38114574 ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #392 ********************************************