From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #385 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, May 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 385 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hairy Legs and All [Ellen ] Re: Fru-Year's Reading [Ellen ] Re: Hairy Legs and All ["A.T. Schrader" ] ccchhhaaadddsss...... ["A.T. Schrader" ] Re: Fru-Year's Reading ["KatieWow" ] Re: T-shirts [Michael Kosloski ] Re: Clifton Park review.... [lasher103@aol.com (Lasher103)] Frudegreens [Fiona ] Re: Fru-Year's Reading ["A.T. Schrader" ] Re: Clifton Park review.... [jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure)] Re: TCAT [firedancer ] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) ["Jill] Re: Humanism [Eve Lauria ] Re: TCAT [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Re: TCAT [Anna! ] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) [Leah ] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) [Paul ] Re: The Ubiquitous Pisco [joshw@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Josh Woodward)] Re: Humanism [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Re: Hairy Legs and All [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] Re: TCAT [jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure)] Matt Damon [Courtney_Malley@mgind.com] Re: Hoboken Show (Maxwells) is not 18+ Psycho Mike will be in [Victorri] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) [hKath] Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) [Marie] Re: TCAT [Jacey7@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:36:48 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Hairy Legs and All > --- Srm9988n wrote: > > -- Lori, being hopelessly obscure. :P Bet Heather > > gets it though. skinny legs and all. IIRC, the dance of the 7 veils turned out to be somewhat anticlimactic. peace, ellen ********************************************************************* she run up into the light surprised... ********************************************************************* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:54:16 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Fru-Year's Reading In article <7gtoks$9dq$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>, "KatieWow" wrote: > bleh. i just bought three john irving books that i'll be pouring over this bleh? bleh?!?!? you should be rejoicing at what glorious reading lies before you. ;) which ones did ya get? peace, ellen, unabashed worshipper at the altar of irving. ********************************************************************* she run up into the light surprised... ********************************************************************* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:25:40 GMT From: "A.T. Schrader" Subject: Re: Hairy Legs and All > ~~kate, who is deriving immeasurable joy from the > mental picture of jian > wide-eyed in front of his computer > oh KT dear! You just made my day with that image! Of course the laughing out loud in the middle of the comp lab was probably not a good thing...ah hell it's the last day of classes...i don't care anymore the almost free Amy === "It's not easy to run when you carry a load let the questions be done and FOLLOW THE ROAD" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:09:00 GMT From: "A.T. Schrader" Subject: ccchhhaaadddsss...... > >Chad asked (which "Chad" is this by the way?) > > oooh good one. This appears to be another CHAD > entirely, hence all upper-case. > One hopes he is also at least 6'8", otherwise we > shall all be confused yet > again. > > -- Lori, waving to the other Lori who just posted > again ... so does this mean that we have to start measuring stuff in CcCHhhAaaDddSss? Speaking of which, where are the other Cchads? c'mon guys....we miss you! and Welcome back Richard!!! It's great to see your wit here once again!!!! Amy (one of many apparently) === "It's not easy to run when you carry a load let the questions be done and FOLLOW THE ROAD" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:29:29 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Fru-Year's Reading oh, no--irving is fantastic and i'm freakin' excited. i got "the world according to garp," "hotel new hampshire," and "a prayer for owen meany" (which i've read before, but on loan from the library--i wanted my own copy :). ~~kate, who's only working three days a week this summer--with fridays off for rreading and frütripping :) - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu katiewow@frumail.org ***************************************************************** evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello **************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:13:04 -0500 From: Michael Kosloski Subject: Re: T-shirts Oddly enough, some guys have the same problem! Try as I might, I cannot find a cheap pair of pants in the size "long, tall, skinny." Never bother with the sale racks for regular pants and go to incredibly expensive men's stores if you want to find a pair of dress pants (also where you have to go to get a suit taylorred to fit!). Koz PS--Maybe I should stop running.....Naaaa! In article <19990506041844.19363.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com>, alaynamac@yahoo.com says... > ... but don't even get me started about trying to > buy pants! I'm all leg, and after way too many years > of ballet training have very unusal leg proportions. But...I flunked out of ballet when I was 7! I am convinced that there is simply *No Such Thing* as "pants that are long enough." They just don't make them, and I'm not sure why. I guess the clothing companies are just stingy with the fabric or something. k@ Resigned to making highwaters a fashion statement ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 14:52:29 GMT From: lasher103@aol.com (Lasher103) Subject: Re: Clifton Park review.... I thought the show was great too, but the people back by the bar were ticking me off with their constant talking thoughout the show. I mean really, why spend 10-12 bucks to sit at a bar and talk all night when you can to the same thing at T.G.I.Fridays for free?
------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:48:34 GMT From: Fiona Subject: Frudegreens Lori, source of many wonderful ideas, suggested: >Fiona my lovely, a long long long time ago, perhaps in October or so, there was >a "mondegreens/Früdegreens" thread that was a riot. Perhaps you should quote >it? Two things.. while October seems to have been the occasion of your first post, Lori it was not a "long long long time ago". Also, I could *swear* I had a file of those I'd thought about putting on the page.. only it's missing. Back to DejaNews I guess. Don't worry the recent ones were too funny to pass up. Anyone else want to share Frudegreens while I dig up the October ones? Fiona War9 Vaq Research Girl: http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/jdvachon/ Quoting Frühead: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3227/ Pretender-l Ratings Messenger: http://www.nbc.com/pretender I like being outed by Fruvous. They're so nonjudgmental. *snort* - Lori ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:49:47 GMT From: "A.T. Schrader" Subject: Re: Fru-Year's Reading > Okay, so in January, several of us said that we > would be reading one book > by every one of the author's mentioned in MBLABOA. > I'm wondering if > anyone has followed through so far, and what those > who have followed > through have read. I began with Robertson Davies > and got kind of hooked, > so I'm just starting to move on to others. : ) wellllll...i haven't read any of them yet, but about a month ago there was a HUGE used book sale on campus where all the books were .50 or $5 for a bag (before anyone throws the book at me [1] for shopping at a used book place where the authors don't get any of the profit, please understand...i am but a very broke college kid with a large weakness for good, cheap books...i can't help it!) anywho, i picked up the Depthford Tril by Robertson Davies and "Love in the Time of Colora (sic)" and one other by Marquez of which the title escapes me at the moment but it did look interesting. I did actually try to read the former by him, but got side tracked with required stuff for my classes (on a side note, i highly recommend "Kim" by Rudyard Kipling...had to read it for Asian Lit class...loved it!) All these books (and more) are all on my summer reading list....which will begin shortly WHEEEEEE!!!!! Amy the book worm [1] yes, bad pun, i know....but look at it this way, it is a fruvous reference!!!! === "It's not easy to run when you carry a load let the questions be done and FOLLOW THE ROAD" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 15:04:26 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: Clifton Park review.... Lasher103 (lasher103@aol.com) wrote: : I thought the show was great too, but the people back by the bar were ticking : me off with their constant talking thoughout the show. I mean really, why spend : 10-12 bucks to sit at a bar and talk all night when you can to the same thing : at T.G.I.Fridays for free?
That's the second post about this show now without so much as a single song or improv played to wet our appetites. Stop tormenting us so! :) j! - -- "Raquetball after getting whacked in the eye without glasses.. It's like drinking after you've already thrown up." --Kevin Connolly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:42:02 GMT From: firedancer Subject: Re: TCAT Jordan I. K. McClure wrote: It's supposedly about a bandit > fish, but all the lyrics seem to refer to food, like noodles or apple > strudel or Antonio Banderas (who any heterosexual woman will tell you > is a gorgeous hunk of meat). *ew ew ew ew ew* speaking on my own behalf, antonio banderas is *gross* and, yes, i am heterosexual and, yes, i am a woman... peas and such, kristen firedancer@postmark.net ================================================== "there are two kinds of music: the good kind and the other kind..." ~duke ellington ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:35:47 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) >Just a personal note. I'm five foot ten, I do dream >about guys talled than me, but who do I end up going >out with? Guys that generally come to my sholder. And who DON'T spend the >evening talking to my breats, >even when they are at eye leval with them. Hmmmmmm it makes me wonder if all the girl out there that like tall guys...unconciuosly like them because they are less likely to be staring at our breasts. I mean not to say that a tall mad isn't going to look at my chest, but is he's not right across from him maybe it is less likely. **Jiel** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:30:37 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Humanism Hmm...I apologize. I don't really know enough about humanism to be able to talk about it. I certainly didn't mean to identify myself with the religious right. I've read a few copies of _The Humanist_ which is an excellent publication, and I did read their mission statement, but that was a while ago and I just remember being disappointed because it seemed to be somewhat atheistic (I don't mean that in its negative sense, just in the sense that it wasn't about God or divinity or anything like that). I had wanted to call myself a humanist but I didn't want to identify with a group that seemed to eschew the existence of the spiritual. That's all I meant with that remark. On the other hand, I know enough about the term "feminist" to be able to fit it to myself. So I guess what I'm saying is that I need to learn more about humanism. But jeez, that's daunting if it takes me as long as it did before I felt comfortable applying the label "feminist" to myself. But PLEASE PLEASE do not identify me with the religious right...I'm just a post-Christian with a little knowledge of a lot of things, and not enough knowledge of most things. Frankly, I'd never heard of their attack on humanism. But I guess they'd attack anything if it seems at all liberal, God forbid radical. Eve AJ wrote: > > Amen Lori. I get really tired of the Religious Right going on and on about those > godless Secular Humanists . > Humanism has nothing to do with Atheism. It is about people not God. I think the > Religious Right attacks us because we make so much sense. That frightens them > because of their agenda to limit and control humanity in the name of their supposed > "Morality". They talk about Humanism as if it is some kind of evil movement when in > fact it is the ultimate in respect and understanding. To attack us thus is a truly > UN-Christian thing to do, and it always leaves me wondering who in the equation is > truly evil. > > A.J. > > -- > See Maria Louise in all her... erm... Glory? > Visit MariaWeb at http://members.aol.com/marilou99/ > _____ _ > / ____(_) > | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ > | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ > | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | > \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 > ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 16:57:16 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: TCAT Kristen wrote: >*ew ew ew ew ew* >speaking on my own behalf, antonio banderas is *gross* > >and, yes, i am heterosexual > >and, yes, i am a woman... We seem to be on to something here then. Heterosexual men seem to think Antonio is someone all heterosexual women find irresistible. Heterosexual women know better. The gender gaps strikes again. Explains a helluva lot about Hollyweird, doesn't it? - -- Lori, pondering the pointless yet again. ************ When you've played out As The World Turns You don't need soaps to clean your mind ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:30:33 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: TCAT In article <7gto96$6na$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>, "KatieWow" wrote: > i'd like to state for the record that as a heterosexual female, i find > antonio banderas irrepressibly skeevy. > ~~kate /me wants to second that, but can't possibly think of any adjectives that would top 'irrepressibly skeevy' :) - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:33:12 EDT From: Leah Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) > On a related note I'd like to deeply offend feminists by pointing out that > appearance pressure is not a gender politics issue. > Not feminist, not masculinist, humanist, > Richard > Richard, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but the sentiments that you expressed ARE feminist. Feminism isn't about women vs. men, or we hate men. Feminism is about analyzing the way that society treats both men and women (and anyone else who doesn't choose either of these labels). It's about saying that everyone, regardless of gender, sexuality, race, age, ability, religion, etc. should be free to express their essence in any way that makes them happy. We need to create a word where things like appearance (for all genders) are not enforced in the sometimes viscious way that they are now. At least, this is the feminism I subscribe to! Leah - Just my three cents ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:47:28 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) /me hates being quasi-short. - -Paul Mischler Jill Hufnagel wrote: > Hmmmmmm it makes me wonder if all the girl out there that like tall > guys...unconciuosly like them because they are less likely to be staring at > our breasts. I mean not to say that a tall mad isn't going to look at my > chest, but is he's not right across from him maybe it is less likely. > **Jiel** > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 16:50:22 GMT From: joshw@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Josh Woodward) Subject: Re: The Ubiquitous Pisco Katrin (katrin@dimensional.com) wrote: : > So does anyone know where I could get an MP3 of it and satiate my : > fish-lovin mind? : The one that I have is from Josh Woodward's site, which can be found at : http://129.1.224.108/mp3/fruvous/. I'm pretty sure it's from the NKU : show, 10/17/98. Just a note to everyone -- I've just taken this down for a couple reasons. First, this isn't or never has been a public site, and is mainly an archive I use in cases when someone requests something. It's running on my personal server, and now that the URL is publically posted (as the site instructed not to do), the load on it is off the charts. Secondly, as I am graduating soon, the computer this site is contained on is vanishing. E-mail me if you would like a Pisco MP3 and I'll see what I can do, though. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Josh Woodward, CheEsy Fru. joshw@BGNET.bgsu.edu Web Site and Tape List: http://www.dc-adnet.com/joshw/ ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 17:04:17 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: Humanism Eve wrote: >Hmm...I apologize. I don't really know enough about humanism to be able >to talk about it. I certainly didn't mean to identify myself with the >religious right. oh, sorry Eve, I didn't mean in any way to identify you with Those People. That was a sloppy sentence on my part, saying I objected to what you said when in fact I didn't object to your position at all, just quibbled with your definition of humanism. AJ gave a really really good one, as he usually does. But I've read enough of Eve's posts to know she's not a Falwellian wacko. Really. :) - -- Lori, who occasionally posts without rereading her own words carefully enough. ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 17:30:22 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: Hairy Legs and All Oh dear. Here I sit, listening to a tape of the 2/20 show and responding to various posts, and what do I hear? 1) Jian, before Psycho Killer, says what sounds like: "... thanks to Lee's Palace, Greg Morris, and the whole staff here, who are the coolest people and deserve big tits ..." (Okay, I *know* that's not what he said, but it *does* sound like it.) 2) Mike, in Dancing Queen medley: "plucked her eyebrows on the way, shaved her legs, now here's a " - -- Lori, laughing so hard her tummy hurts ... ******************************* Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: 7 May 1999 17:41:51 GMT From: jimcclur@ews.uiuc.edu (Jordan I. K. McClure) Subject: Re: TCAT Srm9988n (srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM) wrote: : Kristen wrote: : : >*ew ew ew ew ew* : >speaking on my own behalf, antonio banderas is *gross* : : We seem to be on to something here then. Heterosexual men seem to think : Antonio is someone all heterosexual women find irresistible. Heterosexual : women know better. Yes I know I was never expecting such and outlash! Apparantly my perceptions of reality are just wrong. Next you'll be telling me that Matt Damon isn't a hottie... jordan - -- "I'm just very selective about what I accept as reality." -Calvin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:17:02 GMT From: Courtney_Malley@mgind.com Subject: Matt Damon Jordan Wrote: Apparantly my perceptions of reality are just wrong. Next you'll be telling me that Matt Damon isn't a hottie... jordan Well, *I* won't be telling you that............ I think Matt Damon is adorable..........he's just not more adorable then David :-) Courtney Somethingblack.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:59:54 -0400 From: Victorria Johnson Subject: Re: Hoboken Show (Maxwells) is not 18+ Psycho Mike will be in Hello FruWench-- If you can afford the time to travel, I would say COME to Hoboken because depending on weather, depending on no shows, you may actually get in at the door. It's a common occurance at clubs--especially since you're not dealing with reserved seating. Best, Victorria FruWench wrote: > Ummmm . . .FYI. Ticket Master is sold out and Maxwells only had about 20 > tickets left at lunch on Thursday. Figures. Fruvous comes within 3 hours of > me and I can't go because I missed the ticket window. > > ladywench > *trying not to cry* > > FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . > > "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and > know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:10:09 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) In article <19990507162849.71207.qmail@hotmail.com>, "Jill Hufnagel" wrote: > Hmmmmmm it makes me wonder if all the girl out there that like tall > guys...unconciuosly like them because they are less likely to be staring at > our breasts. I mean not to say that a tall mad isn't going to look at my > chest, but is he's not right across from him maybe it is less likely. I don't know, but for me it's not just guys. I have a lot of trouble acting normal with people who are shorter than me - they make me uncomfortable and awkward. Thank god I'm only 5'3" tall! But I don't think it's a boob thing... I don't really care if someone looks at my breasts, whether they're looking down or straight ahead while they do it. hKath - -- "A handful of Jergen's doesn't count as experience." - Goats - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 18:20:22 GMT From: Marie-Claude Subject: Re: Sad Girl (was breast size, and damn did I hate that header :P) > But being a man and not being able to wear a dress is about > gender and power. It comes in part from the heterosexism of our society > (a man wearing a dress must be gay, which is of course bad), and also in > part from plain sexism (he's a man, the dominant gender; why associate > himself with the subordinate gender) and I'm sure other factors which I'm > not going to ennumerate. I go to a very small cégep and we have this guy, great dude, who wears skirts and puts on nail polish all the time. No one ever questioned his apparence. Perhaps it is because most people here are artists and artists tend to be open-minded. Or maybe it's because of the "Québecois" mentality. I was watching the news yesterday and they were talking about how Québec will be passing this law that will give gay couples the same rights as heterosexual couples for many things. They were saying how that kind of legislation showed Québec's "open-mindedness and equity". Pardon me, but *snort*. Right. Bite me already. Québec is not particularly open-minded, and that's been proven to me personally many times. Excuse my English. I've been writing and talking in French all day :) ~MC - -- "Are there daisies in YOUR footsteps?" - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 19:53:15 GMT From: Jacey7@aol.com Subject: Re: TCAT >>Next you'll be telling me that Matt Damon isn't a hottie...<< *Well*, since you asked- not really. "Kinda cute" is more fitting. ~jen (who perceptions on these things should not be the standard against which men's attractiveness is judged, as she's been told she has weird taste... ;-) - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."-- Rent - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #385 ********************************************