From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #326 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, April 12 1999 Volume 03 : Number 326 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Rochester Recap... or... C-C-C-Cobalt! [Angie Armstrong ] =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Re=3A_The_Fr=FCvous_Dance_=28Hampster_Dance=2C_?= =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?watch_out!_=3A=29_=29?= [Caitl] Re: Coping With Senility [Clare Dunathan ] Re: Hoboken?? Life is GOOD! ["KatieWow" ] Re: Coping With Senility [nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wo] Re: it's all good (finally!) ["KatieWow" ] Re: King of Spain [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: it's all good (finally!) [Anna! ] Re: Hoboken?? Life is GOOD! [Anna! ] RIT Show... [Paul Mischler ] Re: King of Spain [srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:47:44 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Rochester Recap... or... C-C-C-Cobalt! This is a review... this is long... apologies in advance Can I just tell you, I had a f@cking amazing time last night??? I'm sorry for all of you that had to miss the show, but I have a feeling this year's tour is going to be an amazing one!!! My Bliss begins as I'm trucking up rte. 390 from Binghamton, I left at 4:20 and arrive in Henrietta (Rochester "suburb" where RIT is) at 6:34... hee hee. It was miserable and gloomy when I left Binghamton... a rain that wasn't heavy enough to hinder, but not light enough to ignore. As soon as I got off of rte. 17 and onto rte. 390, the rain subsided. As I passed Dansville and started climbing out of the valley (about 50mi or so out), I saw Clear Skies to the North. Between the clear skies and listening to "Live Noise" on the way... well, I glance down and notice I'm doing about 95mph!! So, I back off to about 70, start a-singin' and anticipating the concert... and dammit, I'm back to 95!!! hee hee. So, I pull into the parking lot behind the Ice Rink... backing into my spot. No sooner had I turned off the ignition and reached over to pop the seatbelt... but I turn around to see Dave and Cal walking past. And then, they stop... Dave looks into the car, and waves at me!!! So, I go to hop out and say hi, and forget my door's locked... and slam my shoulder into the door (*Ally McBeal moment again*). So, I hop out, he laughs at me, and I give him a hug. Now I'm already bouncy and flyin'. I head out to find my tickets (Amy left them in her mail folder for me) and I'm RUNNING across campus!!! I don't run! ever! unless I'm chased and I usually just look for a hiding place or turn to fight ;^} I'm not even out of breath when I get back to the gym! Anyway, I see my friend Cory standing in line, and go to talk to him, I look over and see Fiona, Amy Schrader shows up with her brother, and Paul... then another group of my friends arrive... like an army, led by my friend Julie (hee hee). I see all sorts of familiar faces from FruCon and past shows... I meet my friend Cam's friend Dani (sp?), who turns out I was standing right behind at Hamilton College for an autograph from Murray! Throughout the night it was cool to see so many people I knew that were FrüFans to some degree! And a few virgins who have now had the same reaction: MUST HAVE MORE... MUST FRU NOW!!! hee hee. The Show: My set list is incomplete and by no stretch of the imagination in any kind of order... I don't remember much of the banter, and I'm sure I'm leaving things out... but here's some of what I remember (well, a girl has to keep _some_ secrets): New Songs- Too Careful, If You Only Knew (?, I know I've heard it, I think that's what it's called), Sad Girl, I Will Hold On, and I think there was one more but I can't remember. Classics- Jockey, New Boyfriend, Boss, YWGTTM, BJ, River Valley, Authors, Get In the Car, Michy, Love Potion Medley, Horseshoes, Drinking Song Banter/Improv- 1) by far, the most hysterical yet... the Cobalt Rap. It started because they were talking about RIT being a technical school, and somehow led into this rap about programming. Some of the lines I caught were; Murray= "It's not Fortran, It's not Basic, It's not Java... It's Cobalt" Dave= (after Jian starts singing 'Do wa diddy diddy Dum diddy do') "There she was just a-walking down the street... etc. She walked up to my door with a Commodore 64" "I got a Message from Melissa" Jian= "You're De-bugging... You're De-bugging" I wish I could remember more... I was laughing so hard I nearly hyperventilated and my throat started burning. Everytime they thought they'd end it, someone had something else... they were havin' a ball with this one! This was early into their set, too! And, they kept coming back to it throughout the night. 2) Early in the set they were talking about Bowie music, did a few riffs from a couple of songs, then decided to move on ;^) 3) During IWHO (I think, I know it was a slow song, people were waving lighters and such...) someone started laughing and pointed up at the bleachers... someone was waving a light saber!!! So, towards the end of the set they comment on it, and the guy waves the lightsaber again... and they tell him to come up on stage... Jian suggests that he needs some arrival music... Dave starts playing the Stars Wars theme on the electric guitar. Jian plays a marching drum beat to accompany. It turns out this same gentleman was responsible for the Moon during YWGGTM at the Harro East in Nov... Jian said that he should be praised & lauded (not his words, but that's what he implied) by the Rochester crowd... Dave, I think, said it was the high point in the show... and someone started in with C-C-C-Cobalt! So after he returns to his seat... they all jam on the star wars theme again, Jian plays with the beat and goes from Jazzy to a March and then back to Jazzy... and finally Dave just waves him off in a big CUT gesture! 4) The show was interpreted (Sign Language, if you don't know what I mean) by a woman named Sarah, which Jian thought was very cool. Murray said something towards the end of the night, some large word starting with S, wanting to see what sign she would use. She simply spelled it out. Mike says to him that in some countries what he just did would be called, cool... and then said that in some countries the punishment for that would be this- and he walks sternly towards him... the audience is ooooo-ing and tsk tsking Murray, and Mike takes his hand and slaps it. We died! There's more... and there were tons of folks there that can elaborate or fill in gaps, so I'll stop the show info and go to post-show and weirdnesses... Post Show: It's cool, but a kinda scary in a way... I'm standing waiting to talk to Jian, he turns to me and says, "Hey Ang, how's it goin?" and opens his arms for a hug :^D Am I such the junky now that they know me by face AND name? He, Murray, and Dave commented on seeing me during the show... which was cool. When I went to say hi to Murray, he turned, said hi and hugged me... hee hee... I love hugs, I really love Fru Hugs, and I really really love Fru hugs initiated by Fru's themselves. I had to ask him, What's with the plain white T-shirt, are you feeling ok?" and put a hand to his forehead. He laughed, I told him I thought it was adorable because he was wearing sneakers and rolled up jeans... he looked like a little kid, and I thought he was all ready to do the Kid's song. He said all he was missing was the backwards hat. We talked for a few minutes and I went up to where Mike was "holding court" on the bleachers Dave was surrounded by a crowd, spotted me and waved with a big grin... when I turned to say something to Dani and then turn back... he was gone!!! Sheesh!!! so, he re-emerges (I'm guessin' he was gettin' a refill...) and I get tired of waiting for a break in the conversation so I go over and talk to Dave. I go to say hi, and says "Hi Angie!" and gives me a hug hee hee... signs my 'b' liner, and we chat for a few short minutes. He's got peach fuzz on his head, I have this thing about buzz-cut heads and before I could stop myself, I played with his fuzz... he didn't seem to mind. Finally, I had to interrupt Mike, surrounded by the guys from SNMNMNM talking about distortion and Pencilinas. I apologized and asked if he'd just sign my liner... he said, "Oh,I'm sorry! I didn't mean to keep you waiting like that." I told him it was ok, he seemed really into the conversation and I didnt' want to barge in, and comment that that was really polite of me... *smirk* While he was talking with the guys, they had commented on the troubles of WBER (Jian had made an announcement during the show, a plug for the campus station WITR [which he first goofed and called it WIRT] and then made a huge plug for WITR, saying that if anyone would help them to please do, as they are one of the few stations in the "Entire Continent" that gives Fruvous good Air play). There was a suggestion of a benefit concert for WBER. Now, before anyone goes berzerk... disclaimer: "Something overheard by members of two bands shootin' the shit... this is no announcement of such an event!!!! However, both Jian and Mike made comments last night about seeing if Fruvous could do something to help... I'm keeping MY ears and eyes open... how 'bout you? Weirdnesses: 1) During the opening act, the Pushstarts (I didn't comment on them at the beginning because i couldn't hear a lot of what they were saying. They did have a baby accordion... and a Trombone...and the guitarist who played the afore-mentioned instruments was wearing a canteloupe orange shirt... we figured Murray loaned it to him, hee hee): they played a slow song, and people were waving "virtual lighters" while they sang. so me and my crowd were joking about the light sources we were holding. I said, I have a match... would hold it up, say ouch and shake my hand... light another, burn my hand, light another... which got us all giggling. Then someone says something else, and they say, "its your turn" to me... so I think a second and say... I have a lightsaber, and make some stupid sound effect to turn it on and wave it around... so during IWHO, what do we see but the lightsaber and this guy off next to us with matches!!!! That was a little freaky! 2) Before the opening act, we were standing around restless, and Julie was bored and starting singing Fru songs. we sang some of River Valley and BJ, and Johnny Saucep'n a few times... she wanted to sing the Drinking song but I talked her out of it. Honestly, I felt a little weird singing there songs like that... but it didn't bother her. So, both songs were in the set (they didn't do Saucep'n tho... *pout* ) the new album is due around July... I forgot to be nosy and ask about the title, and they (at least, it was Jian who said it) are VERY excited about this new album. Thank you for reading so far... I hope I was able to convey at least some of the awesome time that was had by myself...I can't wait for Syracuse! BTW, if anyone recorded (audio or audio-visual) PLEEEEEEEAAASSSSE contact me... I must have a copy, somehow!!! I'll hold the hope that we won't part and I'll hold off death so I can live with you - Moxy Früvous ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:12:34 -0700 From: Mike Bobbick Subject: Re: The Frvous Dance (Hampster Dance, watch out! :) ) Hehehe, this is the funniest thing I've seen since the Hampster Dance. ;) Truly, you guys are a pair of geniuses. Mike mikeman4@ix.netcom.com Andrea Krause wrote: > > I know a lot of you have heard of/seen the Hampster Dance and > other sites like it. Well, they've inspired us to create The Früvous > Dance. It's mildly frightening, I must warn you. :) Paul did most of > the work, I just nitpicked and cajoled. Follow the link below and > click the Früvous Dance icon. I sincerely hope no one experiences > permanent psychological scarring. :) > > (Works best on 800x600, works even better on high speed lines.) > > www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk > > (Yes, I know it's in my sig, but I'm repetitive. :) ) > > Andrea > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 > > Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:25:15 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: The Frvous Dance (Hampster Dance, watch out! :) ) On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:45:24 -0700, Caitlin wrote: > >Oh. My. God. > >And here I've been trying to convince everyone that we're far saner than >those deadhead people.... I just fell over giggling. > >Andrea, may I steal a couple of the animations for my final? Please? This >is too entertaining! > > ____ > \ /__ Caitlin Xantha Hazen > \/ / caitlin@wayward-volvo.org > \/ http://www.wayward-volvo.org/xanthe/ > Xanthe on IRC > Sure, feel free. :) Oh and there's no hope in believing we're sane....just roll with it. :) Glad the page was enjoyed. :) :) Andrea - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes, and The Hampster Dance: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:34:01 -0400 From: Nancy Wood Subject: Rochester Show Angie and Erich did a great job summarizing the show. I'll just add that I have to agree, it was a *fantastic* show - even on the Früvous scale of great shows. The lads had a great time and it was evident throughout. Very high energy and side splitting banter. The Cobal piece started with them saying something about the college being "technical", and a student yelled out, "yeah, but the computer labs don't work" or something similar. The irony was just too much and that spawned the whole ongoing CcccccCobal thing... I brought a friend from Columbus who has been in town and had never heard Früvous before last night. He bought 3 CDs and a T-shirt. He was mentioning the banter after the show and I said something about the improv being one of the most amazing things about a Früvous show when he looked at me in complete amazement and said, "You mean they didn't plan that at all? That was completely off the cuff?". The moment of conversion - we've all seen it at one point or another yet it reamains so satisfying! Nancy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:45:24 -0700 From: Caitlin Subject: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Re=3A_The_Fr=FCvous_Dance_=28Hampster_Dance=2C_?= =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?watch_out!_=3A=29_=29?= Oh. My. God. And here I've been trying to convince everyone that we're far saner than those deadhead people.... I just fell over giggling. Andrea, may I steal a couple of the animations for my final? Please? This is too entertaining! ____ \ /__ Caitlin Xantha Hazen \/ / caitlin@wayward-volvo.org \/ http://www.wayward-volvo.org/xanthe/ Xanthe on IRC On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Andrea Krause wrote: > I know a lot of you have heard of/seen the Hampster Dance and > other sites like it. Well, they've inspired us to create The Früvous > Dance. It's mildly frightening, I must warn you. :) Paul did most of > the work, I just nitpicked and cajoled. Follow the link below and > click the Früvous Dance icon. I sincerely hope no one experiences > permanent psychological scarring. :) > > (Works best on 800x600, works even better on high speed lines.) > > www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk > > (Yes, I know it's in my sig, but I'm repetitive. :) ) > > Andrea > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Moxy Früvous is a trust exercise." - Mike Ford 1/1/99 > > Pumpkins, Cookies, Tapes: http://www.ntplx.net/~jkpolk > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:01:55 -0400 From: Clare Dunathan Subject: Re: Coping With Senility jen wrote: i come to here to dejanews and come to the fruvous list, all i get > is old stuff, altho apparently people have seen the newer stuff i write in. this would be parsque (sp?) DejaNews is broken and stinks. I have an account too, and it doesn't work either. once I can get netscape installed on my system, maybe I can post more. of course, i post too much already. you people are probably way sick of me. btw, I was wondering, should i try to convince my auntie to drive me and Mustard Girl (for those of you who don't know, don't ask) to the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival in NY? How many will be there and how many think it's a good idea to drive from DC (no, i don't live in DC, my aunt does) to Hillsdale New York? and how many people might we (if i could convince my aunt you're not raving psychopaths or anything) be able to crash with. a fine answer to that last question is zero. FruKid -stranded somewhere out in left field- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:09:15 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Hoboken?? Life is GOOD! hey! i'd like to personally stick up for new jersey. those of you who have met me can confirm that: a) my hair is almost always spray-less, straight, and close to my head b) while i do drive a stick, i know almost _nothing_ about cars (save for my new heightened knowledge of volkswagen lease prices) c) i do not speak like joe pesci d) i've never used the phrase "friggin' a" in my life (in seriousness at any rate) e) the parkway is at least an hour away, i can't see the turnpike from my house, and actually don't even know what exit i am. thank you ;). ~~kate - -- evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:01:00 GMT From: nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: Coping With Senility On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:01:55 -0400, someone who looked like Clare Dunathan whispered: > btw, I was wondering, should i try to convince my auntie to drive me >and Mustard Girl (for those of you who don't know, don't ask) to the >Falcon Ridge Folk Festival in NY? How many will be there and how many >think it's a good idea to drive from DC (no, i don't live in DC, my aunt >does) to Hillsdale New York? and how many people might we (if i could >convince my aunt you're not raving psychopaths or anything) be able to >crash with. a fine answer to that last question is zero. > FruKid -stranded somewhere out in left field- Attending Falcon Ridge! What a most excellent idea! *I*'m going [1], and I have to fly out from California. Two friends of mine are currently planning on *driving* there, believe it or not. Comparatively speaking, your aunt has it easy. As for crashing, why not camp? As for raving-psycopath Fruheads--I had exactly the same qualms as you before my first Fruhead experience. I realize that information from an online Fruhead about online Fruheads will be perceived by your elders as being of dubious value, but, if it helps: we're NOT lunatics, raving psycopaths, or axe murderers. Oddballs, perhaps. But friendly oddballs. :) Hope to see you there! - --nicole the wonder nerd [1] Ticket #33. I don't know what's more disturbing: that I'm loony enough to get a ticket this early, or that 32 people got tickets before me. *** "The three great virtues of a programmer: laziness, impatience, and hubris."--Larry Wall Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:12:45 -0400 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: it's all good (finally!) anna-- how are you getting to utica?!?!?! perhaps kate could scam a ride . . . :) ~~kate - -- evil is just special with a criminal record. - --doug, 3.26.99 everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight on past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 1999 00:48:29 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: King of Spain >>Was King of Spain ever featured in a movie or anything like that? My sister insists she had heard the song before the first time I had her listen to it, but she can't remember where...<< Ok, I don't know the answer to this, but the same thing happened to me. The first time I listened to Live Noise, I hit that song and was just like "I *know* this." But I have no clue from where. ~jen (glad she's not the only one ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Do you know that you are very strong?"-- Grover "Measure your life in love."--Rent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:21:19 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: it's all good (finally!) In article <7erdph$668$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>, "KatieWow" wrote: > anna-- > how are you getting to utica?!?!?! > perhaps kate could scam a ride . . . :) > ~~kate Ah, perhaps Kate could :) I'm driving the breakdown mobile (not to strike fear in your heart or anything!) There is almost surely space for you, if you want to come. Goody :) Just throw some email this way! - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:37:43 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: Hoboken?? Life is GOOD! "KatieWow" wrote: > hey! i'd like to personally stick up for new jersey. those of you who have > met me can confirm that: > > a) my hair is almost always spray-less, straight, and close to my head this is true. i like Kate's hair. This coming from someone with the exact opposite kind of hair. Short(ish) and curly. > b) while i do drive a stick, i know almost _nothing_ about cars (save for > my new heightened knowledge of volkswagen lease prices) Yay Volkswagon! And Kate also saved Rodney from certain exhaustion on the way home from Toronto due to her stick driving knowledge, so it can't be too bad :) > c) i do not speak like joe pesci No, this is also true. > d) i've never used the phrase "friggin' a" in my life (in seriousness at > any rate) Okay, I can't vouch for this one. But I can't quite imagine that even if you said "friggin' a" in seriousness, you could be taken seriously anyway :) > e) the parkway is at least an hour away, i can't see the turnpike from my > house, and actually don't even know what exit i am. Still can't vouch. But I have a dislike for the turnpike, so I'm glad that you don't live near it. Ha! Take that beltway! and on that note, - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:52:26 -0400 From: Paul Mischler Subject: RIT Show... I have to agree. The Two reviews up fully summarize most of what I want to say about the concert other than: It was really neat getting to meet massive numbers of fruheads for the first time. Misch and mosch DO exist, and we are TWO SEPARATE PEOPLE! (Contrary to the belief of #MoxyFruvous ;-) I have pictures to prove this ;-) Bad news about the pictures. Somehow, my flash bulb died on the camera. I'm going to have to dig up my warranty and get the flash replaced. As a result, many of the photos from after the concert came out _really_ bad. My camera didn't like taking pictures during the show. Many came out _very_ blurry. (In other words, you can't understand what you were looking at.) One came out with a quasi double faced murray. It's not too great, but I have to try. So, I will be sending a _few_ pictures over to Chris O. sometime in the next week or so. They need a lot of touching up... It was real cool meeting you all, and I look forward to future shows with all of you!!! - -Paul Mischler ------------------------------ Date: 12 Apr 1999 04:00:14 GMT From: srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM (Srm9988n) Subject: Re: King of Spain There was a question: >Was King of Spain ever featured in a movie or anything like that? My sister >insists she had heard the song before the first time I had her listen to it, >but she can't remember where...<< and jen said: >Ok, I don't know the answer to this, but the same thing happened to me. The >first time I listened to Live Noise, I hit that song and was just like "I >*know* this." But I have no clue from where. Okay, Lori, the voluble font of useless info, recalls vaguely some posts about other groups covering KOS both on albums and at shows - -- groups like, say, yeP! or DVN or somebody. Can anyone out there with more knowledge confirm this? - -- Lori, who is still wondering exactly how it is she heard Entropy on what she thought was Kid's Corner long before b was released in the US. Maybe I actually heard it on Canadian radio and just forgot the source. Which would hardly be the first time she was all confused ... ******************************* Visit Lori's *newly-redecorated* strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #326 ********************************************