From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #265 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, March 13 1999 Volume 03 : Number 265 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Lit Mag Copyright Issues [Mindy J Munson ] Independence Day [Carol Krupka ] Re: New Album Name ["Zainab" ] Re: Copyright? ["Arbie Fru" ] Re: New Album Name ["Arbie Fru" ] Re: EMR lyrics ["Arbie Fru" ] Re: Lit Mag Copyright Issues [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: jon stewart and the daily show.... [dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe)] Re: All these on-topic posts are beginning to worry me . . . [dmandeluxe@] Re: Rufus Wainwright in Baltimore . . . [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (Lime] Re: If Only and new album [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger)] Re: Nat Gertler (was New Album Name) [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZin] Re: Rufus Wainwright in Baltimore . . . [whozoominwho@my-dejanews.com] Re: New Album Name [BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson)] pagina en espaol ["prodigi" ] Re: New Album Name [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)] Re: jon stewart and the daily show.... [jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69)] Re: New Album Name ["Ken Ream" ] Re: New Album Name [tmbgirl@juno.com] Re: New Album Name [michykith@aol.com (Michykith)] Re: Moxy and the BNL!!! [jennifer@mail.durham.net (Jennifer Burnett)] Re: Banjo Buzz [Rachael Rosenthal ] Re: New Album Name ["KatieWow" ] Re: New Album Name [TREVOR WHITE ] Re: New Album Name ["Jason A. Reiser" ] Re: New Album Name [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992)] Re: New Album Name [gorbitron@aol.com (Gorbitron)] Re: Banjo Buzz [nafio@my-dejanews.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 05:20:41 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: Lit Mag Copyright Issues OH we at Jamestown High are an angst ridden ppl! I *am* planning on submitting my story of how the faery (Shazalin Rea) got its wings. We will see what happens. fruchild, " I AM the band" Murray 2/6/99 On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 03:14:41 GMT nicole.twn.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) writes: >On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:29:06 -0500, someone who looked like >"KatieWow" > whispered: >>reason i've decided against working on school publications ever >again. my >>junior year there was a huge trend of fantasy stories--_every_ >submission we >>got was about dwarves and gnomes and wizards, which i like fine if >it's done >>right (like, tolkein quality)--but it was terrible. we put a >moratorium on >>elves my senior year (they seemed to be the fantastical sentient >being of >>choice :). > >My senior year in high school, the Lit Mag staff had finally had >enough and declared two simple rules: >1. No teen angst. >2. No drippy love poetry. > >Interestingly, I don't remember much fantasy getting published. I >used to be an editor of my college's lit mag, and I *really* don't >remember any fantasy--the people were into minimalist sketches of >real >life that year. >Maybe it was just your school... ;) > >--nicole twn >who dimly recalls publishing a couple of her own oddball poems in the >high school Lit Mag... >and who, to make this on topic, does not remember dealing with >copyrighted material in a Lit Mag, either as an editor, a reader, or >a >contributor > >*** >"If you decided to sell your happiness, for how much would you sell >it?"--Moxy Fruvous >Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn >Reply-to address is INCORRECT! Think of it as an intelligence test. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:04:00 -0600 From: Carol Krupka Subject: Independence Day Ooo...I do like this song! Wow...it's so cool:) I was typing my paper just now and had to stop...I just got this big chill down my spine... Okay...I'm fine now Well, not really. But wow:) cool, man ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:32:37 GMT From: "Zainab" Subject: Re: New Album Name "We are Hippies and Geeks" gets my vote. Zainab ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:20:52 -0800 From: "Arbie Fru" Subject: Re: Copyright? Hey Mindy, Define profit. Selling your masterpiece for a couple of bucks to cover costs is not generally considered a for profit venture. I still think you should ask but I don't think you'll have any trouble, as you are helping to spread the word (properly credited of course) Free publicity, why would they refuse? - -- Arbie "Brassman" on irc "Reply to" address altered to discourage spammers, sorry for the inconvenience. *new e-mail* afru@direct.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mindy J Munson wrote in message <19990312.150944.-3949567.1.SHAZALINREA@juno.com>... >Thank you Chad and A.J. I think I will call/write Jude. I would feel >quite rude saaying on the ng "Hey Moxy, can I do this?" As for what AJ >wrote, yeah thats where I think the problem comes in. Our Lit mag is >like 2 or 3 dollars so it does get profit.... but I guess I will find out >if thats ok! Thanx again! > >fruchild, >" I AM the band" Murray 2/6/99 > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:53:43 -0800 From: "Arbie Fru" Subject: Re: New Album Name Zainab wrote in message <01be6d2a$28634140$02689cd1@labbox1>... >"We are Hippies and Geeks" gets my vote. > >Zainab Ok. Borrow and modify. How about: "Songs for Hippies and Geeks" - -- Arbie "Brassman" on irc "Reply to" address altered to discourage spammers, sorry for the inconvenience. afru@nospamdirect.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:45:29 -0800 From: "Arbie Fru" Subject: Re: EMR lyrics Coincidentally, I heard another version of EMR yesterday on CBC1. This one by Bob Dylan (from an album that started with a P.., Portraits or Partriots I think). I noticed he played with some of the lyrics too although now I can't remember what he did well enough to quote. - -- Arbie "Brassman" on irc "Reply to" address altered to discourage spammers, sorry for the inconvenience. afru@nospamdirect.ca - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loren Becker wrote in message <36E979B9.201F74E8@gwu.edu>... >I had to go back and check this one out because I haven't heard the Lightfoot >version in a while. Here are the original Lightfoot lyrics, according to >Matthew of http://www.mmlc.nwu.edu/~mfifer/lightfoot/index.html > >It seems that PP&M (I'd guess it was Peter who sang it but I'm not always so >good at that stuff) took their usual liberties with the lyrics to the song and >Fruvous, so far, have not. >snipped to preserve bandwidth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:29:11 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Lit Mag Copyright Issues nicole twn mentioned these restrictions for Lit Mag submissions: >1. No teen angst. >2. No drippy love poetry. Funny you should mention that. I think all school lit mags try to shy away from that stuff. At my school, when talking to the English classes, we even explicitly mentioned it. Of course, what makes up the bulk of the submissions? You guessed it: "Sorrow" (a poem written this very minute by Heather Moore in the style of the crappy submissions we received at BHS) I held his hand like he held my heart. I don't know how we will live apart. The rain falls down like tears on my face. I feel so alone, lost in an empty place. Without him I live all the days of my life but the sadness can end with one slash of this knife. Okay, I just kicked that off the cuff there as an example of the horrid stuff we'd get (PLEASE do not think that I write like that seriously). Why the hell do all amateur high school poets have this unceasing urge to rhyme? Hmmm? I mean, good rhyme is one thing (case in point: Yeats, Auden...). Ninth-grade-"love"-rhyming is another entirely. I must say, though, that I'm in this poetry class at my community college and the people in my high school creative writing class were FAR more talented as a whole and had a better grasp of overall "goodness." These folks are consumed with using profanity for shock value and really worn out cliches and stuff (not to mention sing-songy rhythms and TERRIBLE rhymes). It's painful. It's really hard to tell someone that his or her work is not useable. People (especially young people -- and don't get all freaky on me here, I AM young people) often associate their own self worth with their writing, and one criticism is like saying, "I would rather be Charles Manson's cell mate than spend two minutes listening to you." Anyway, I'm just loving all this discussion. My days on the Lit Mag staff are some of my fondest high school memories. *sigh* Those were the days. Heather Moore (who is all too young to be saying "those were the days") ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 11:24:25 GMT From: dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe) Subject: Re: jon stewart and the daily show.... Well sorry, y'all, but I think the intelligence of the show has skyrocketed since Kilborn's depature. Stewart had a rough couple of weeks, but he has settled in beautifully. Sure Kilborn could read a teleprompter real well, but he usually didn't have clue as to what he was talking about. And with Winstead's departure a year ago, I'm glad to se a real brain at the helm once again. Kilborn premieres, btw, on the completely revamped Late Late Show on CBS at the end of March. Mikey D. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 11:06:20 GMT From: dmandeluxe@aol.com (Dmandeluxe) Subject: Re: All these on-topic posts are beginning to worry me . . . << Jian was very good in it, and I think it's a great idea! To be honest, though - they tend to go with big names. It doesn't matter how intelligent someone might be, it only seems to matter how much "in the spotlight" they are. >> If the new album makes a splash, then his chances of getting on go from -0- to maybe 50%. Moxy's "publicist","agent", or "manager" probably has to be seeking the appearance out, unless someone on the "PI" staff happens to be aware of Jian. But just about everyone that show has something out there to promote, though the intro is the only direct promotion for their book/ record/calendar/ what-have-you. and yes, producers of shows like PI pull their hair out trying to book guests that will clash & create lively discussion. Otherwise it would be real boring debate. Mikey D. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 11:55:51 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: Rufus Wainwright in Baltimore . . . > i'm interested in going, but i'm not gonna unless i know >i'll get to hang with some people i know :). go go go! rufus is fantabulous. sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org ~ icq:26873712 httpcolonslashslashmembersdotaoldotcomslashlimezinger "the fiction and in fact, the facts that you create have made the great debate, so embrace the ones you hate" --thrush hermit ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 12:36:39 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: If Only and new album >MF: good canadians >CD:bad canadian > >This is to be read to the tune of SMOASP's 5 american, 6 canadian. LOL! sarah (wow, what a bad post. i'm sorry ;)) linnellgirl@tmbg.org ~ icq:26873712 httpcolonslashslashmembersdotaoldotcomslashlimezinger "the fiction and in fact, the facts that you create have made the great debate, so embrace the ones you hate" --thrush hermit ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 12:44:47 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: Nat Gertler (was New Album Name) >OHHH! That reminds me. I was watching "Win Ben Stein's Money" about >a week ago, and guess who was a contestant. None other than Nat >Gertler himself. LOL! i saw that quite a while back! :) sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org ~ icq:26873712 httpcolonslashslashmembersdotaoldotcomslashlimezinger "the fiction and in fact, the facts that you create have made the great debate, so embrace the ones you hate" --thrush hermit ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:45:41 GMT From: whozoominwho@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Rufus Wainwright in Baltimore . . . In article <7cbeob$213$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, "KatieWow" wrote: > hey baltimoreans :). rufus wainwright will be playing at fletcher's in > fells on tuesday. i'm interested in going, but i'm not gonna unless i know > i'll get to hang with some people i know :). I've got tickets to see Rufus Wainwright, but not in that town. Oh, well. I just wanted to ask: do you know what his live act is like? Thanks, Ed ********************************** Singer/Songwriter Laura Nyro http://www.LauraNyro.net a fan-based website run by musician Glen Stegner ********************************** - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 13:53:29 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: New Album Name Phink in philly. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:22:42 +0100 From: "prodigi" Subject: pagina en espaol http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/2599/tanya/moffatts.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:48:25 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) Subject: Re: New Album Name In article , afru@nospam.direct.ca says... > Zainab wrote > >"We are Hippies and Geeks" > Ok. Borrow and modify. How about: > "Songs for Hippies and Geeks" Yep, I'll vote for that one! Unless of course they wanna call it "Gigantbox." ;) k@ kidding ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 18:24:00 GMT From: jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69) Subject: Re: jon stewart and the daily show.... <> intelligence maybe, but it didn't get any funnier. i think it just became almost totally unwatchable. Most of the good correspondants are gone. the new ones pretty much suck (except for Colbert and Littleford). and the interviews are boring. Ahh well. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:50:39 -0500 From: "Ken Ream" Subject: Re: New Album Name Zainab wrote in message <01be6d2a$28634140$02689cd1@labbox1>... >"We are Hippies and Geeks" gets my vote. > >Zainab > > Here's a couple of names MF have jokingly(?) threatened to name their next CD: Request-O-Matic (from the webcast from Chicago) Banjo (from their last Pittsburgh show) - I'd like this one only if the cd was completely devoid of any banjo. Anyone else recall any names they jokingly mentioned at shows? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:39:01 GMT From: tmbgirl@juno.com Subject: Re: New Album Name waitaminute... you mean it's not gonna be called "JOrdaN" and my picutre *isn't* gonna be on the liner notes cover? well damn. seriously tho... i'm groovin with "matt's life savings" *grin* or better yet "moxy fruvous." i love it when bands release a self-titled album *after* the release of other albums. And sure, one might say that that's the indie tapes name but honestly... we all know that's it's the indie tape. right? hey denver frucrew... (sorry i lost the address to that mailing list)... you guys planning a shindig anytime in the near future? take it easy, JOrdaN http://www2.netcom.com/~arnot/joda/bootlegs.html :::JUNE 1st: RED ROCKS 7pm:::: are you psyched? On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 23:16:53 GMT Duncan writes: >Hey there > >OK, this may seem dumb, but I was wondering of what a few good names >for the new album would be. The name could be also the name of one of >the songs, such as... > >Independance Day (a good name, if they're staying with Bottom Line) >Half As Much (I don't know why it'd be good, but it sounds like a name >an album > would have) >OR, there could be some other name that has nothing to do with any of >the songs, such as... > >Flesherton (seems like the word of the day, doesn't it?... maybe they >could get > the keys to the city this time) >Post-Noise (OK.... this sounds pretty dumb) > >OK!!! I CONFESS! I didn't spend much time on these, but I was >wondering what other ideas people could come up with? Maybe the >Frülads could have a contest for this, like they did for the album >Wood? > >I dunno.... I don't post very often, and it obviously shows.... But >post your ideas for a name! > > >Adam "Scream" Duncan >AdamDuncan@Canada.com > >Pickering, Ontario > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 19:19:26 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: New Album Name I've mentioned this before, and only people from the Delaware show would get this...but I still dig the idea of...."People of the Shuttle" ; ) ~joni *~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~* "The First Annual Do What You Feel Festival will start tomorrow, whenever you feel like getting there. This will be a welcome change from the usual Do As We Say Festival" kent brockman ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 19:28:30 GMT From: jennifer@mail.durham.net (Jennifer Burnett) Subject: Re: Moxy and the BNL!!! Actually I did see Moxy Fruvous and Barenaked Ladies share a stage. The day: July 1, 1995, oh my gawd, almost four years ago... The place: Friendship Music festival, Fort Erie, Ontario. Bands who performed that day included, The Reostatics, Jann Arden, Moxy Fruvous, the Waltons, Billy Bragg and the Barenaked Ladies, I apologize for the bands I may have missed. One of the most memoriable festivals. Jennifer Burnett Oshawa, Ontario The city that "moto-vates" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:39:37 -0500 From: Rachael Rosenthal Subject: Re: Banjo Buzz how about a new accordian... that one appears to have seen better days....LOL not to put it down or anything but..... Rachael, who will now wait patiently for the Dave's accordian fan club to come and tar and feather her. Josh Drury wrote: > A.J. LoCicero wrote: > > > > > Hey! Why don't we each chip in 4 cents (CDN) but this time instead of buying Dave > > Tequila, we'll get him a new pickup for the banjo! > > Ooooh! This is the biggest tax increase EVER! > > Josh Drury > Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:54:02 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: New Album Name lol. they _could_ always pull a peter gabriel. ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:09:31 GMT From: TREVOR WHITE Subject: Re: New Album Name Duncan wrote: > OK!!! I CONFESS! I didn't spend much time on these, but I was wondering what other ideas people could come up with? Maybe the Frülads could have a contest for this, like they did for the album Wood? > > I dunno.... I don't post very often, and it obviously shows.... But post your ideas for a name! How 'bout "Mountain Dew at Towson U"? KIDDING!! Let's see: "Songs in a Fruvous Key" "Loco Joke-o" "Murray Sings Soprano" "Mike Just Shaved" "Jian Quits Caffeine Completely" "Dave Opts for Contacts" ...um, let's see what else I can come up with if anyone's still reading this post... "Loveable Left" (And I'm a Republican vet, myself...I disagree with Fruvous politically, but their music still cooks, and isn't that all that counts?) "They Really ARE Giants" "Dead to Rights" "We Need Sleep" "Trevor White Can't Think of a Good Album Name" Doesn't that say it all? Ciao, babies, Trevor (Mountain Dew Fru from Towson U; Republican vet who doesn't wear a flag on his arm but still loves Fruvous even after hearing "Your New Boyfriend." Go figure.) ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 12:33:43 -0800 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: New Album Name In article <8syG2.385$a13.240795@news.sgi.net>, "Ken says... >Anyone else recall any names they jokingly mentioned at shows? lets not forget... "Effort to Pander" and "Album of Lies" - - Jason jreiser@ecoutez.com ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 21:28:03 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: New Album Name >Let's see: > >"Songs in a Fruvous Key" Or you could go with xfiles and the simpsons, and have "Songs in the Key of Früvous" :-) hey...I like it! Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "It's fun to steal, but the day you change your ways you'll find out she's exactly the same"~Mono Puff ------------------------------ Date: 13 Mar 1999 21:48:13 GMT From: gorbitron@aol.com (Gorbitron) Subject: Re: New Album Name >Or you could go with xfiles and the simpsons, and have "Songs in the Key of >Früvous" :-) hey...I like it! >Aleigh >Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom > That would really be going with "Songs in the Key of Life" the classic Stevie Wonder album these albums titles were satirizing. Gordon "You sit there and ask me to tell you the story so far. This is the story so far . . . " - Fish ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:10:25 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Banjo Buzz Rachael wrote: > how about a new accordian... that one appears to have seen better days....LOL > not to put it down or anything but..... Ok now I feel old. I distinctly remember this note from Chris Traugott in early 1997: "Yes, the red accordion, replete with duct tape, is gone, replaced by a shiny, new, white on with all sorts of new buttons and gizmos on it. Not knowing the first thing about accordions I can't say what is different about the two." It's only been 2 years, is Dave really that hard on the poor instrument? Fiona (who doesn't really pay attention to the condition of the instruments, apart from the glaringly obvious) Harold: "I find this very hard to believe." Red Green: "That's because you're listenin'." Red Green Show - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #265 ********************************************