From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #255 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 255 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: How Do I Get Moxy Videos? ["Steve Nordmeyer" ] Re: I'm new too!!! [ctyner@my-dejanews.com (Adam Tyner)] Re: another bnl/fruvous thing on another ng [Chad Maloney ] Re: New Album Excitement - My Poor Moxy Fruvous: please read [Mindy J Mun] Re: another bnl/fruvous thing on another ng [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (] Re: Yemen [elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James)] Re: Frucon puzzles! [Amanda Wilson ] Re: For your consideration: Grateful Fruvous [Anna! ] Re: Moxy license plate [elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James)] Re: Venue Size [Michael Kosloski ] Re: There's a FruCon death flu? [Michael Kosloski ] Re: C'mon Y'all, Let's Talk Fruvous...a couple of probing questions [elro] Re:New Album (Spec: When She Talks) [Donna ] Re: unsubscribe [comicman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:37:54 -0500 From: "Steve Nordmeyer" Subject: Re: How Do I Get Moxy Videos? >I am feeling pouty and all, so: WAAAAH! Everybody gots snow but >me! *sniff* > >Actually we had about half an inch this morning. Like THAT's any fun. > >I just think this is so not fair. And I do miss living in Ottawa. >(There. CanCon, if not actual Frucontent.) > >--- Lori, whining. > Where do you live? I could box some up with some dry ice and see if it makes it to you safely. FedEx can get it there overnight... I could take a 7 inch chunk out of the center of the yard and mail it. :-) Snowy (sorry) Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 19:34:10 GMT From: ctyner@my-dejanews.com (Adam Tyner) Subject: Re: I'm new too!!! On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:25:13 -0500, Chad Maloney wrote: >I'm sure someone here would be more than happy to scan them if >you can send copies to them. I don't have that ability, but hopefully >someone else who is reading this will step forward. My scanner is at the disposal of any fru-heads who need it. :-) Just drop me an e-mail. - -Adam - -- /=---------------- http://www.he-man.org/ctyner/ ----------------=\ http://www.crystal-night.com/~ctyner/tuscadero.html http://www.awod.com/gallery/rwav/ctyner/ He-Man, Tuscadero, "Weird Al", Yoo-hoo, Killer Tomatoes, & more! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 14:45:55 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: another bnl/fruvous thing on another ng LimeZinger wrote: > especially since... y'know, FDC is GOOD.. ;) but.. wasn't FDC up long before > bnl.org? surely someone must know. i swear that it was, but i don't wanna post > incorrect info in a rebuttal. ;) maybe someone here knows and can straighten > that out? 7/15/97 was when Chris's A Fruvous Fan(atic) page started officially as FDC and at that time, it looked more or less like it does now. The opening pic has changed and information has been added, but mostly it's always been in the incredibly well laid out and easy to use form it is now. I dunno when bnl.org came around. But FDC was around as Chris's page for a while before it became FDC. I'd ask Chris though for more info... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:35:25 -0500 From: "Steve Nordmeyer" Subject: Re: unsubscribe Steve Nordmeyer wrote in message <7c64b4$fa5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>... > >jamn wrote in message <36E68951.CBDFC94@fast.net>... >>unsubscribe me >>going away for 2 weeks and my server will freak leaving that much mail >>on it > > >Someone's going to be in for an unpleasant surprise... > > Apparently, since jamn decided to flame me, I should point out here that this was not meant as "nasty", "unhelpful", or as coming from an "egotistical asshole". It was just posted assuming that jamn was already gone and wasn't going to be receiving anymore messages, and thus would not benefit from a detailed explanation about how sending a post subjected "unsubscribe" doesn't unsubscribe you from a newsgroup as it might a list service. So, for anyone who might want to know, you need to check your list service (if you use one) to find out the exact address to unsubscribe - it is usually the list service management address, and you say 'unsubscribe name-of-list'. As for newsgroups, you find the place in your newsreader software where you marked the list for subscribing, and find out how you undo that. Different for each software. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Sorry I pissed jamn off so bad. Sure hope his/her next couple weeks go better than I have apparently started them. Misunderstood Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:44:19 GMT From: Mindy J Munson Subject: Re: New Album Excitement - My Poor Moxy Fruvous: please read >Maybe it's just that I don't think the song is intentionally one >dimensional *grin* Ok, well I understand that better, the fact that you dont think that it was intended to be >> not unfair at all. Everyone *must* have opinions our the world >would >> suck. I think Chad is right in that it is good to help out the band >by >> giving your feelings, but unlike Chad, I believe we give our >feelings and >> have no right to say that a song "sucks" b/c it may mean something >to >> others. > >Whoa! I don't recall any of my posts saying simply something sucks. >Nothing "sucks" and I try damn hard to give good explanations of my >opinions whenever I'm in a discussion about this stuff. If that >isn't coming through, maybe I'm doing something wrong here. Ok, I wish I didn't delete it but soemwhere in post history something sucked. If I mistook the meaning, I appologize >> ok, I think he was saying that this is there job, as it has been from the >> beginning. They are so happy that we enjoy what they do and that it >has >> brought us together, but they do want they do and write what they >write >> for themselves just as much,if not more, for themselves. Don't get >me >> wrong, Its wonderful to tell them what works and what doesn't for >us >> personaly, but don't tear 'em down. They leave there home and >families >> and give themselves to us nightly and we can enjoy it or not > >Mindy, hon, I don't know anyone here in this discussion who is trying >to >tear anyone down. When Josh says he doesn't like When She Talks, he >isn't >saying "Damn, Jian sucks. What the hell is trying to do?" He's saying >that the song doesn't appeal to him. When I critcize a song, I'm >just saying that in my opinion, something is missing or misfiring >to me. I'm no expert on anything at all. I'm the same as you. I >go to shows and I buy albums and I get friends to listen. > > - Chad At the end of that post I clearly stated that it was niether your post or the other one that provoked this. There are things disturbing my fruvous bubble that you now not of and I just want ppl to be careful of how they word things, and to think it through first. *bow* Sorry if you took offense dear knight, this was not directed to you fruchild, " I AM the band" Murray 2/6/99 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:28:00 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: another bnl/fruvous thing on another ng >well, now--don't get hung up on aesthetics. bnl.org provides rather >extensive information about the band and an incredibly intricate tape >trading section personally, i find the bnl site to be a headache trying to follow, and fdc to have more content and fan reviews/pics etc. sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org ~ icq:26873712 http://members.aol.com/limezinger/ "when you are naughty, you are punished." - dave foley ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:18:23 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: Yemen Srm9988n (srm9988n@aol.com.LoriM) wrote: : Anna! the puzzled asked: : >I've always been really confused by some of these... : >For instance, what does "OBX" represent? I've always wondered what the "OBX" stood for as well...I've seen it on a number of cars around DC (as well as "F", "D", "GB", etc). These stickers are NOT required anymore, apparently. I guess it just makes it slightly more easy to identify where a car is from at a glance, that's my guess. As for British plates, I've seen yellow ones and white ones, I'm not sure why they're different colors. - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:18:47 GMT From: Amanda Wilson Subject: Re: Frucon puzzles! In article <36E55245.55FA9022@earth.goddard.edu>, Nate DeRose wrote: > Hey! > > After diligently placing my puzzle piece into the puzzle it was marked > for, I lost my bag..... so on my way out, I grabbed an abandoned bag > that was laying in the corner instead. > > Imagine my surprise when I looked in it this morning and found another > puzzle piece!!!! > > So! > Whoever got the #1 puzzle, drop me an email with your address, and I'll > send you out this piece ASAP! > If I'm not mistken, that would be the Mike Ford puzzle. I won it, but gave it to Laurie Addenbrooke because it was missing a piece and I didn't feel like keeping it around. (I'm on a bit of an anti-stuff kick lately.) Hope this helps. - --Amanda - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:19:44 GMT From: Anna! Subject: Re: For your consideration: Grateful Fruvous In article <7c6j4c$9hq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, Ellen wrote: > after months of exhaustive research (hey, all that dancing can be tiring), i > have uncovered a line of evidence that suggests that the members of Moxy > Fruvous are, in fact, closet Deadheads. a careful examination of their > touring habits corroborates this theory. consider the following > similarities: Hmmm. Closet Deadheads...in a phenomenon sweeping the nation...oh nevermind, it's an old joke already ;) > having studied the data extensively, i have concluded that there is a strong > possibility that Moxy Fruvous is actually a jamband and i now beseech them: > embrace your inner hippie. *go* with it, man. *be* the music. Yay! Hippies are cool! > your complimentary pairs of birkenstocks are in the mail. if you want to be > true to your inner selves, put them on. i think you'll find you like wearing > sandals in march. I don't wear a coat in Toronto in February...who need shoes in Maryland in March anyway!? No, actually, I really love the Dead. My parents used to follow them (which is cool, because they understand why I travel to see Fruvous...) and I grew up listening to their records (records, even!). Uncle John's Band was one of the first songs I learned to play on guitar... Coincidentally, we were eating in the dining hall the other day, where they occaisionally play the classic rock station, and a Dead song came on, so of course I started singing. My friend asked if it was "another one of your hippie bands...like Moxy Fruvous?" Maybe my reputation is getting out... So I don't find it at all strange that there are so many underlying similarities between them and Fruvous. I think its pretty cool actually. I would like to see Fruvous cover Dead tunes. Everybody needs a little jam... - -anna- http://elements.dreamhost.com "I smoke what I'm given..." -Mike Ford, 2.21.99 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:47:48 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: another bnl/fruvous thing on another ng i agree--it's a little confusing. interesting concept, though. ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 19:28:46 -0500 From: Michael Kosloski Subject: Re: FRUVOUS OPENING FOR BNL??? RED DWARF ROCKS!! Have you seen the gazpacho soup episode? THE BEST ever. Koz ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:46:27 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: If Only and new album > >It's one thing to say you don't care for the song..... I can live with >that..... >But to compare it to garbage like that Titanic song?!?!?! >Jeeeeeeeesus!!! I meant title-wise. "I will hold on"- anyone else see it? No? Oh. I'll shut up now. ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:49:05 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: If Only and new album >How can you even say that I will hold on makes you think of Titanic? It's >like blasphemy! To compare Fruvous to Celine Dion! Gross! > >Leah > I would never think of that... If you hadn't brought it to my attention. MF: good canadians CD:bad canadian This is to be read to the tune of SMOASP's 5 american, 6 canadian. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:00:56 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: There's a FruCon death flu? hmm . . . i'd have to say i'm a combo of those things :). ask wendy and rodney about my early morning habits--sleeping three hours and then getting up to work out and go to mass during frücon. someday this is all going to catch up with me, i swear :). also--i had no idea about this "inside-jiggling" thing. that actually sounds pretty cool to me . . . :) ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:56:22 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: Moxy license plate : YYZ Toronto, ON (Lester B. Pearson International Airport), Canada But why was YYZ chosen for this airport? Is this some veiled reference to Canadian band, Rush's song YYZ or just a coincidence? - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 17:32:42 -0500 From: Michael Kosloski Subject: Re: Venue Size The biggest I've seen was probably ~350 and mostly standing room. The smallest, sans in-store, a lot smaller--probably the worst=the Galaxy in St. Louis. Playing the wrong direction in a long, narrow room with pillars in the way. Oi! In trying to get the band: just don't try when they are talking recording stuff. Our such plans got put on hold indefinitely as the only date we had in common was this month...bands don't like to do shows while they're in the studio. It was something we checked out a few months ago, so, no, we hadn't already heard about the upcoming album. ;) Later, Koz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 22:53:54 -0500 From: Michael Kosloski Subject: Re: There's a FruCon death flu? Actually, I like to think that we're much worse than "the morning people", especially because some of us actually combine the two and get up hours too early just to do it. I may have a confession: while I got rid of something akin to the FruCon Death Flu (tm) a week before attending, I suppose it is possible that I carried it into the midst while there. I did come away fairly congested (death for runners), though, so maybe not. Apologetically to all involved, Koz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:53:48 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: All these on-topic posts are beginning to worry me . . . . . . so here's a good off-topic one :). did anyone happen to catch dave matthews on "politically incorrect" last night? it was the second time i'd seen him on the show, and i have to say that i was really impressed by him. both times i'd seen him the topic was drug regulation, and both times he managed to outshine the other panel members (one of whom was everyone's favorite two-faced new jersey cheerleader christine todd whitman). okay, so this is kind of on-topic. considering that jian has appeared on politically themed show in the past, has anyone ever written to "politically incorrect" suggesting him as a guest? i think he'd be a welcome presence on the show; but perhaps früvous needs to become a little more visible before it happens. i guess it can't hurt to suggest, though. anyone have any thoughts? ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 22:01:43 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: When She Talks (was Re: New Album Excitement (was Re: If Only (Re: the many configurations of one partic >you brought up something interesting chad. when i first heard "sad girl" i >didn't like it at all, but when i first heard "when she talks" i loved it. >now i'm realizing that they're very similar lyrically and musically. i >think both songs have a long way to go, but that they could both be very >effective. >~~kate I've only heard "When She Talks" once, so I might not be completely on-target with this response, but, whattheck.....I loved "Sad Girl" for the same reason Mindy played it for her class, it describes _so_ many of the girls in my high school. Therefore, i don't see how WST and SG are similiar lyrically. I mean, I never thought of SG as a song in the romantic vein, whereas I thought that of WST. SG, to me, seems like a social commentary. That is my interpratation though. Also, to dip a little into Chad and AJ's comparison of Wood and YWGTTM....I would have to agree with Chad. Although I love Wood, the first few times I heard it, I didn't get it, and sometimes still don't. This is not to say that songs have to make sense to Joni (registered trademark) to be musically mature or whatever. I just found that YWGTTM, and the many styles (well *I* hear many styles) it incorporates was a good step. Maybe I am biased because YWGTTM is the first cd I heard and my favorite (if I _had_ to choose one.) And, as a closing, I would like to point out this is Joni on her new screenname, as she has determined the former one projected a teenybopper bordering on stalker image, which wasn't completely true to her personality. She thanks Deb and Lizzie for helping her create a new one. (why do I keep talking in third person?) ~Joni "The First Annual Do What You Feel Festival will start tomorrow, whenever you feel like getting there. This will be a welcome change from the usual Do As We Say Festival" kent brockman ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 22:29:53 GMT From: michykith@aol.com (Michykith) Subject: Re: power point and frvous I had to do a Power Point presentation a few months ago. I did it for the local theatre where I am on the youth board of directors (Yay Wilminton Drama League!!) Te very day after I did it, I thought of how cool a Fruvous presentation would have been, and all the stuff I could have put on it. I coulda kicked myself! ~joni "The First Annual Do What You Feel Festival will start tomorrow, whenever you feel like getting there. This will be a welcome change from the usual Do As We Say Festival" kent brockman ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 21:39:11 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: If Only and new album Nah, we're not really all that productive!! :) As evidenced by the fact that my mom has four brothers and sisters, and up until the other week, she was the only one with kids. So my two sisters and I grew up as the only three nieces/grandkids on both sides (Dad's an only child). So now my mom's brothers and sisters are straing to catch up. Actually, it's just her brothers. Besides, this newest baby isn't exactly a surprise. Every other word out of my aunt's mouth for the last three years has been "baby". And yes, being gravity defiant would indeed be a very sneaky lifestyle for good ol' Pisco! :) :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 22:05:30 GMT From: elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) Subject: Re: C'mon Y'all, Let's Talk Fruvous...a couple of probing questions : Huh. I guess Down From Above, cause I love it and I'm interested in what : prompted it. Wouldn't it be great if VH1 got Moxy Fruvous to do a : Storytellers session? *sigh* T'would be bliss. Or how about a Pop-Up Video of a Fruvous song? I wonder what factoids they'd display? Perhaps something like "Fans of the band are known as Fruheads, many tour hundreds of miles to see them." Or "Fruvous used to busk on Queen St. in Toronto in their younger days." Or something of the like. - -Matt - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt James Voice: (301) 231-9898 x. 121 TYC Associates email: mjames@tyc.com Rockville, MD alternate: mattj@charm.net http://www.tyc.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:20:30 GMT From: Donna Subject: Re:New Album (Spec: When She Talks) OK, I have to defend "When She Talks" just once. :) AJ (Cicero) writes: > But When She Talks? I'm sorry. I must be missing >something. Yes, I think people might be. I think that there's a subtlety going on here, that because we don't have liner notes, and most of us have only heard this song as well as the new songs a few times at most (except for those tapin' people... and even you may have different lyrics on different tapes) we haven't been able to analyze completely. But what i personally think is going on with "When She Talks" is a little more complex than it sounds like... so, the first line: "When she talks, I listen" and I hear hundreds of you thinking "Well, duh!" But it's not necessarily a *given* that people are actually *Listening* when someone talks... we may not even *hear* them... we first learned this trick when dealing with our mothers telling us to clean our rooms... Personally, it's a huge compliment, if I'm paying 100% attention to what someone is saying. They people who really mean something to me are the people who I really LISTEN to, who I really hear, instead of just taking in their comments--in one ear and out the other. Basically, I think it's a song about someone special to someone-- they're responding differently than they do to the average joe. (no offense, joe) :) That's why I *LIKE* "When She Talks" --I want someone to listen to me. :) ciao! donna %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "ahthOOn SSyng!" I said. "That's farewell." "It sounds evil." "It is," I answered, and we parted. --Gail Levine "Ella Enchanted" %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:18:32 GMT From: comicman Subject: Re: unsubscribe it is not totally that you pissed me off ....more that you did not look more carefully at my post and see that I also included the correct way to remove my self from the list as well as post it to the list serv............ next time pay attention instead of going off half cocked and posting a nasty response with I know better then you attitude.............. again if you do not have nice things to say do not say them J. Steve Nordmeyer wrote: > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 3/10/99, at 3:28 PM, jamn wrote: > > >btw did ya ever think that I might wanna let people that I talk to why I > am > >gone...... > > I was making no comments about whether or not you should let people know > that or why you were going to be gone. Makes sense to me. > > >and unless the commands to unsubscribe are wrong I am pretty sure i wont > be > >suprised > > I was just indicating that posting a message to a newsgroup titled > "unsubscribe" doesn't unsubscribe you from the newsgroup, although alot of > people think it does. The fact that you got the response indicates that. > I am posting another reponose there with further information. But, I don't > want to assume that you don't already know, so ignore the next few lines if > you want. > > Steve > > Message being posted: > > Apparently, since jamn decided to flame me, I should point out here that > this was not meant as "nasty", "unhelpful", or as coming from an > "egotistical asshole". It was just posted assuming that jamn was already > gone and wasn't going to be receiving anymore messages, and thus would not > benefit from a detailed explanation about how sending a post subjected > "unsubscribe" doesn't unsubscribe you from a newsgroup as it might a list > service. > > So, for anyone who might want to know, you need to check your list service > (if you use one) to find out the exact address to unsubscribe - it is > usually the list service management address, and you say 'unsubscribe > name-of-list'. > > As for newsgroups, you find the place in your newsreader software where you > marked the list for subscribing, and find out how you undo that. Different > for each software. > > Sorry I can't be more helpful. > Sorry I pissed jamn off so bad. Sure hope his/her next couple weeks go > better than I have apparently started them. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #255 ********************************************