From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #253 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, March 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Time Warp - a.m.m-f History [nafio@my-dejanews.com] excuse my ignorance... [ag147@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Deseree Wiebe)] Re: Banjo. [Ellen ] Okay, I'm putting my two cents in [Aryn - Marietta Eaton ] Re: New Album Excitement (was Re: If Only (Re: the many configurations [C] A question for ya all? ["Jill Hufnagel" ] re: Moxy and the BNL!!! ["Jill Hufnagel" ] Re: Banjo. [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992)] Re: Great Big Sea in Philadelphia! [aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992)] Re: Okay, I'm putting my two cents in [Chad Maloney ] Re: New Album Excitement (was Re: If Only (Re: the many configurations ["] Re: New Album Excitement [Chad Maloney ] Re: Great Big Sea in Philadelphia! [jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:12:24 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Time Warp - a.m.m-f History This is another of those ideas born on #moxyfruvous. I think I'll blame it on Drea, cause she's convenient. *g* Actually no, she brought up the idea of sending Father O (Chris O'Malley) reviews of shows she'd seen in 1994 and 1996, which lead to a discussion of pre-Früvous Fanatic's Page (FDC's previous incarnation) reviews on a.m.m-f. That in turn lead to A.J.'s suggestion which was this - reposting old Früvous reviews and a.m.m-f threads for educational purposes. Or possibly just because it's fun. So, approximately once a week, if no one objects too strenuously, we'll blow the dust off another old post and present it for your amusement. Then we had to deal with Deja News. It claims it has all Usenet archives back to March 1995. Unfortunately, we couldn't find anything on a.m.m-f or alt.fan.moxy.fruvous before January 1 1996. So instead, today's blast from the past is a review off of rec.music.a-cappella, by a guy who still posts here occasionally. He's known to some of you as "Paul from Da Vinci's Notebook". Enjoy - Fiona & A.J. - --------------------------------- Subject: Moxy Fruvous: A good time was had by all From: Paul Andrew Sabourin Date: 1995/06/20 Newsgroups: rec.music.a-cappella This isn't really a detailed concert review; just a strong recommendation to run, don't walk, to see Moxy Fruvous if their current tour comes anywhere reasonably near your area. They appeared at the Birchmere in Alexandria, VA this past Sunday, and put on a great show. I've seen them 4 times now, and have never been disappointed. For those who don't know, Moxy Fruvous is a quartet from Canada (The Official CASA 51st State) that, though not a cappella, place a strong emphasis on vocal harmony, have a hell of a lot of energy, and are just plain good. They use pretty spare instrumentation (snage drum, guitar, bass, accordion, occasional percussion), and do perform some a cappella tunes (so any purists out there won't be completely satisfied). I don't know that I'd call them folk, though their sond tends toward the acoustic, and many songs are of a leftward political bent; more sort of an acoustic rock/folk/semi-pop/ vocal group. Hell, that doesn't do it, either. Anyone help me out here? They're just good, damnit! They played a healthy mix of songs from "Bargainville" ("Stuck in the 90s," "King of Spain," "Spiderman," "River Valley," among others), as well as a number of tunes from their upcoming album (due in about a week in Canada, later in the states), several of which they have played for a while ("Fly" comes to mind), others that were written for the album (sorry, I didn't catch any titles except for one called "The Present Tense Tureen," or some such). They also played some concert favorites they haven't put on an album yet ("The Greatest Man in America," an "ode" to Rush Limbaugh; "Ash Hash," which I don't think they put on their new album; "Jockey Full of Bourbon," a Tom Waits cover that they segued into their own tune, "Darlington Darling;" and their "Dancing Queen/Walk on the Wild Side/Angel of Harlem" medley). Conspicuously absent was their notorious rap version of "Green Eggs and Ham;" it was requested, but they said that they don't do it anymore, as they're really sick of it (been performing it for 4-5 years now). They said they even had a ritual burning of the costumes. Actually, while the song *is* fun, it had been getting progressively sloppier and less enthusiastic each time I saw it, and I didn't really miss it. They've added a few more instruments (keyboard, banjo, a bass drum), and everyone seems to switch around on their instruments more than they used to. They were also unprepared for the enthusiasm of the crowd, which called them back for 2 encores. They weren't sure what to sing, so they took a couple requests. Thanks to a number of native Canadians in the crowd who were apparently longtime fans, they did an a cappella tune called "Cross Border Shopping," about shopping in Buffalo, which was quite funny. They also did "Gulf War Song," apparrently quite a rarity in concerts. (At least in DC concerts) Well, this went on far longer than I intended it to; one less cup of coffee in the morning for me. I guarantee that you'll enjoy the show if you go (and I am not one to issue guarantees). Paul "Long-winded Boy" Sabourin In Current Heavy Rotation: "Eraserhead," Bruce McCullough, from "Shame-Faced Man" "Daves I Know," from same "Sex Machine (Pt. 1)," James Brown, from "20 All-Time Greatest Hits" compilation Harold: "I find this very hard to believe." Red Green: "That's because you're listenin'." Red Green Show - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 16:10:30 GMT From: ag147@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Deseree Wiebe) Subject: excuse my ignorance... Well, I was one of the original fans, way back when Green Eggs and Ham was available on cassette...I have every album, and don't have many opportunities to see Fruvous, because I'm a student, and they've only been in my province twice in the last 3 years or so. Anyways, *when* is the new album supposed to be out? Thanks Deseree (ag147@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:40:59 GMT From: Ellen Subject: Re: Banjo. In article <36E5E1EA.5FB0AACC@radix.net>, chad schrock wrote: > SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!! > > This is the most snow we've had here for THREE years. shyeah, i'm so glad i listened to the weather reports, which called for an inch or so of flurries. i went to work wearing plain ol shoes and had nothing to clean my car off with (hey i *used* to have a scraper, i just.. ummm... misplaced it during those 6 years in NC). talk about totally unprepared. at least the admin people let us go home early. =) peace, ellen ********************************************************************* The future's here, we are it, we are on our own... ********************************************************************* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:02:50 GMT From: Aryn - Marietta Eaton Subject: Okay, I'm putting my two cents in To continue the introductions, Hi! I'm Aryn, I recently stumbled across this little conclave and am enjoying it imensly. Although I am now spending way to much time on line. Here's my thoughts. I have to speak in defense of non fan types going to concerts. In the last year I have been twice hauled to concerts of goups I had never heard of. It went something like this, I answer the phone, my friend Kendra says, I have tickets to see U2 in october and were're going, or Moxy Fruvous is going to be in Minneapolis in June and we're going. My responce is along the lines of "That would be a band right?" I get hauled off 160 miles and dicover a couple bands that I now do not know how I lived without. Just a dicalimer, in no way am I an advocate of the, shreekie, jumping, hyper type fan, they drive me nuts! Second topic, Fruvous, on the Radio! The staions at both Universities here play them a lot! Not that I ever hear them, but both my parents now recignise them and tell me all the time, "they were playing Moxy Fruvous on the radio this afternoon." Anyway, just thought I'd join all the fun. Aryn == Aryn - Marietta Eaton Alayna MacMullen Reluctant pirate of the black ship Inverness, Chatilaine, shire of Innersea, Self professed U2, Moxy Fruvous and Star Wars fanatic Don't meddle with dragons, cuz, like, you're cruchy and taste good with ketchup. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:04:58 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: New Album Excitement - My Poor Moxy Fruvous: please read Mindy J Munson wrote: > Now as for WST, I > have heard the one-dimensional argument. Am I the only one who listens > to a sng to listen to a song? I mean without searching for one great > meaning. But the song isn't written to get you to do that. Get in the Car is written like that. The song makes you just listen to it and not worry about it. Much pop is like that. Johny Vegas is my best example of that (http://www.johnyvegas.com - new Album march 16th called Forest Hill Drive and I think Moxy Fruvous sings on a track called Grandma's Silverware. They are also touring to support the album). I love Johny Vegas. I can put JV in at work and let it repeat all day and not get sick of it because it is extremely well done pop (and the drummer if really incredible). I don't listen to the words on most of the songs much even if I sing along. Ballads don't do that. Unless you try hard, a ballad gets listened to because not enough is happening to stop you from listening. > I think it is great they > they have songs of all dimensions so that everyone can relate to the new > album in some way. My brother is very much in love with the... um... > witch that dumped him, and this song invoked feelings in him.... Thats > the point of music, is it not? Maybe it's just that I don't think the song is intentionally one dimensional *grin* > not unfair at all. Everyone *must* have opinions our the world would > suck. I think Chad is right in that it is good to help out the band by > giving your feelings, but unlike Chad, I believe we give our feelings and > have no right to say that a song "sucks" b/c it may mean something to > others. Whoa! I don't recall any of my posts saying simply something sucks. Nothing "sucks" and I try damn hard to give good explanations of my opinions whenever I'm in a discussion about this stuff. If that isn't coming through, maybe I'm doing something wrong here. > ok, I he was saying that this is there job, as it has been from the > beginning. They are so happy that we enjoy what they do and that it has > brought us together, but they do want they do and write what they write > for themselves just as much,if not more, for themselves. Don't get me > wrong, Its wonderful to tell them what works and what doesn't for us > personaly, but don't tear 'em down. They leave there home and families > and give themselves to us nightly and we can enjoy it or not Mindy, hon, I don't know anyone here in this discussion who is trying to tear anyone down. When Josh says he doesn't like When She Talks, he isn't saying "Damn, Jian sucks. What the hell is trying to do?" He's saying that the song doesn't appeal to him. When I critcize a song, I'm just saying that in my opinion, something is missing or misfiring to me. I'm no expert on anything at all. I'm the same as you. I go to shows and I buy albums and I get friends to listen. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:25:13 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: I'm new too!!! Jill Hufnagel wrote: > > Well hey all, Hi. Hufnagel. That's pretty cool *grin* > OK I'm pretty new to this whole internet/Email thing so bare with me. I > joined a bit ago and then because of the fact that I don't have amodem > for my computer at home I am forced to use the ones at my school. Now I > sure there are some of you out there that understand how it is using > school eqippedment. Ah, but http://www.fruovus has all the wonderful morsels of Fruknowledge whether you are using school equiptment, home equiptment, or you have a friend who prints stuff out for you because. FDC is just that cool. > So I finally caught up with the whole news group thing and hope I can > keep up in the future. I can see how it gets addicting. It's even worse when there is actually good content to read. Normally I can catch up on overnight posts on a.m.m-f in about 30 minutes. Well, I'm at 2 hours now and I still have 16 posts to go and 4 replies to write. But that's the price we pay for content, I guess *grin* > Well alittle about my self if anyone cares. > I attend the Art Institute of Pittsburgh, although I am originally from > Buffalo. I am a photography major, and if you were and the saterday > night show at frucon you might have noticed me. I was the one being > shunned for haveing a tripod there. But the photos turned out great for > the most part hopefully I can find a way to show you all. I'm sure someone here would be more than happy to scan them if you can send copies to them. I don't have that ability, but hopefully someone else who is reading this will step forward. I'm sure you could also send copies to Chris O'Malley, the benevolent keeper of all things Fruvous at FDC. That will also get them on the webpage so that we can all check them out. You can contact Chris at webmaster@fruvous.com and he'll walk you through what you need to do. > Remember I'm > just learning things. I was unable to attend anything else because of > lack of money or time. I know that is probably no excuse, but if I'm > ever going to get out of debt I need to watch things. Oh well ALL understand that one. Lack of mney and time is the best excuse I can think of really, well other than severe personal injury or other such horridness. But I'm glad you make it out to the convention and I hope you enjoyed it! > Well I guess I'll start with that!!! and see how I am excepted...I hope > well. As long as none of you are the ones that hate me for being a > photographer. Oh, and some day I plan to Photograph for Moxy...it's > been a dream of mine since...since well early on!!! Hey, if we still like Nate, who likes American Smarties better than Canadian ones, we'll still like photographers. Your useful because you create show memories for everyone. I guess that makes Nate useful too, though *grin* Welcome to alt.music.moxy-fruvous!!! Make sure you post when you have something to say and don't let the fact that we are all crazy loons deter you in the slightest. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:46:51 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: New Album Excitement (was Re: If Only (Re: the many configurations "A.J. LoCicero" wrote: > I guess I'm not sure I understand the concept of musical depth. Complex > instrumentation would seem to indicate musical depth in most cases--to me. But of > course, I'm not a musician. How do you define musical depth? To me, musical depth is not just complex instrumentation. Sometimes it is totally not complex instrumentation. What musical depth is to me is when all the instruments work together to point you at the meaning of the song. It may not be obviously done, it could be accidental. But it happens. Elvis Costello is my best example of musical depth and I guess to me some of the newer Frusongs are approaching Elvis quality to me. The instrumentation of a Costello song usually leads you straight back to the vocals. It's sing songy and even cheesy when the lyrics are telling a story. To me, songs like My Poor Generation, I Will Hold On, Independence Day, and Half As Much are much more complete songs. Independence Day, where there is a break in the song, doesn't break out into a large instrumental highlight for example. Instead, it sorta wanders introspectively encouraging you to do the same thing in the context of the lyrics. That's really cool and shows a maturity to me to not say "Look, open section, let's show them we are competent musicians by laying down some stuff" and instead leave it alone and let it go. I guess to me, this measure of musical depth is almost objective. I mean, it's subjective in that each person decides what helps point to the meaning of the song because the meaning of the song is often subjective. But, I can't think of a good 'but' here. So, I guess when I say Wood's instrumentation doesn't always add musical depth, that means that to me, sometime the guitar is playing a slick riff because it can play a slick riff and not in order to lead you somewhere. Horseshoes is my best example of that that comes to mind (I don't have Wood at hand really give it a listen). Horseshoes musically is a "Let's Play" song. I would guess that a lot of people couldn't tell you what the lyrics to Horseshoes mean. They can surely sing along, but feeling the song as a whole not so much. They use "Look straight at the coming disaster" as a base for the meaning and fumble something out, but using the whole song to lead to the meaning would be a harder task. That's what I mean when I say musical depth. Note that a Costello song where it's a piano and couple horns and a singer can be musically deep if they utilize each instrument correctly and don't leave gaping holes that you fall through while listening to the song. A small combo can be musically deep when they know each other intimately enough that what they pieces together. > > Wood showed maturity musically because it was a conscious departure and showed > > confidence in what they were doing. It was also more mature because the > > instrumentation grew up from the basic sounds of Bargainville to a fully > > stocked instrumentation in Wood. But still some of the musical skills in > > Wood weren't as polished as they are now. > > Ok granted. I agree with all of that. Polish is a function of time. Of course they > are more polished now. And that's completely true, AJ. But it's drastic to me. I can be listening to a song live that hasn't even gone through the microscope that is the recording proces and it just sounds more complete to me. Even songs like Independence Day which isn't exactly a straightforward song stylistically sounds like it could be on the radio because it sounds full enough and mature enough to be there. That's the feeling I get when I hear some of the new stuff live and that is what is exciting me so much. As bad as it sounds, sometimes it seems to me like our young boys are growing up. To me they aren't selling out because what I've come to know as them are in these songs. But they are a large step ahead of where they were to me. > I guess I can see how you can argue that moon added to wood. I've just never really > thought of it that way. For me, Moon was another direction. One step back towards > Bargainville, turn left, and then straight on 'till morning. It felt different, so I > never thought of it as additive. The variety of the music on moon to me was kind of > more a correction of the one-sidedness of wood. As you say, it does effectively show > the various sides of the band. As for Sahara, I don't know if I'd agree that it > surpasses anything on wood, but it certainly ranks with the strongest wood material. To me, "the one-sidedness of wood" is on of it's strongest points. It's telling you a consistent story the whole way through. I have no idea what the actual motivation was, but to me, it should be something like: "Okay, so now we are huge megastars because of bongos and acapella music. But that isn't what makes us tick. Let's work on our complete package now" Out popped Wood, which stretched their songwriting skills a lot more than Bargainville did. Then they wanted to go further. They had gotten past the need to write obviously about stuff inside them, and so they moved into writing about stuff that interests them, including still whats inside them. That's where Moon came from. It's not a logical step from anywhere I guess, but to me it is still building on Wood. I don't see Moon as being a corrective Wood, but more an expansion to say "Hey look what we learned to do!" > About half of Moon is eclectic, but there IS a musical style that predominates on > the album: 60's pop. GITC, Medicine Show, YNB, Lazlo, and Boo Time. These songs > (along with the cover art) are stylistically linked and they give a tone to the > album. That is a tone that the rest of the songs "go against." That is what I mean > by match or not match. I agree that that diversity is a good thing. It does an > excellent job of showing off the various sides of fruvous I'm not a pop guru by any means and I know much less about the Beatles than I'd like to, but to me each of those songs maybe based in pop, but past that it's anything goes. Get in the Car is bubble-gum pop, happy to the point of hiding the lyrics which are vague enough to hide themselves. Boo Time on Moon is a driving oddball pop. Of those listen, Lazlo is the most straight ahead pop to me and it does it really well. YNB is kinda straight ahead pop, but isn't executed as well. > I agree. I was going on to talk about the direction I see them moving in now. Let's > face it, all the new songs (except Pisco) are pretty serious. Even if they are > couched in a "fun" style. Very much so. If not serious, just heavier. Wood flashbacks anybody? > > First, Earthquakes I don't know much about. I missed Windsor and Ann Arbor > > but saw it at Lee's and was unimpressed. I could tell what they were trying > > to do a little bit, but they didn't do it at all. They know that they > > didn't do it at all too, so I'm sure work will go into the song to make > > it something they are proud of, you know? That's the problem with > > experimenting live with new songs. Sometimes it just doesn't work. > > Right, but it often a good way (the only way?) to tell if something works or not. > I'm not criticizing the band for trying it a new way, I'm just saying that I didn't > think the new way worked and that I thought the old way did. I'm sure they'll be > working on that more. I'm more than not criticizing the band for trying it. And I really appreciate the fact that they tried it in front of us! That's showing a lot of faith in us really and that makes me smile. > > So I guess I'm not agreeing with you AJ, but you have picked the > > weakest of the new songs out to me. > > Oh you aren't disagreeing. You just like some of the new stuff better than I do, I > think. Right *grin* > > But AJ, I do think the direction they are going shows musical maturity. > > My Poor Generation, Independence Day, and I Will Hold On are probably > > the best examples to me. Dave is really really at the best he's > > ever done in my opinion, assuming the Dave songs I think are Dave > > songs are actually Dave songs. > > Hmmmm. I wonder why I still find myself balking at that last thought? I think it > could be because although I agree that some of the songs show musical maturity, > perhaps I don't sense that "maturity" is the direction they are going in. > > Perhaps we are just arguing semantics here. I don't know! I think that's it. I'm just using your post as a jumping off point for discussion. I'm not arguing with you at all. As far as maturity goes, yeah, I think it is just semantics. I probably don't mean strict maturity when I say it. Mostly when I say maturity I just when I listen to a song now versus a song then, I can see where they've come from. > Maybe it is just the paint fumes? Mmmm... paint fumes. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:36:52 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: A question for ya all? I know since I wasn't at the actual convention part of the whole Frucon weekend that I probably don't deserve to know what all of you are talking about with all this Puzzle piece stuff. However, if some kind soul would like to let me in I would be quite appreciative!!! Thankies-Jiel Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:33:17 GMT From: "Jill Hufnagel" Subject: re: Moxy and the BNL!!! Well the question that I have about this is that I don't see Moxy playing at any place as large as like an arena. Isn't that usually where the BNL play. Not that Moxy couldn't play one of those someday or even now, but I hope they never do. I mean I would still go it would just change the mood. It wouldn't be as intimate!!! I like the small venue as the setting. Plus you know what big arenas mean...NO CAMERAS!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, now that would suck in my book. The new fru, Jiel Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 17:22:21 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: Banjo. >SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!SNOW!! > >This is the most snow we've had here for THREE years. > >I'm happy. ;) I mentioned that to Veronica, and she laughed at me. Stupid Canadians with all of their snow But I went outside with a ruler last night and counted 8 inches! In D.C. that's unheard of! Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "It's fun to steal, but the day you change your ways you'll find out she's exactly the same"~Mono Puff ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 17:33:40 GMT From: aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) Subject: Re: Great Big Sea in Philadelphia! >Friday March 26 Great Big Sea is supposed to be playing at the >Khyber Pass with Willie Porter and the Pushstars. Ooh! Can I put in a good word for Willie Porter?? I saw him some months ago opening for Eddie From Ohio at the Birchmere...he's the most incredible guitarist I've ever seen. Just one guy with a guitar, but he does some amazing stuff...also he'll just make up songs on the spot with ideas the audience gives him!! Go see him! Aleigh Check it out! Check it totally out!! --> http://i.am/not_your_broom "It's fun to steal, but the day you change your ways you'll find out she's exactly the same"~Mono Puff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:13:52 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Okay, I'm putting my two cents in Aryn - Marietta Eaton wrote: > > To continue the introductions, Hi! I'm Aryn, I recently stumbled > across this little conclave and am enjoying it imensly. Although I am > now spending way to much time on line. Aryn. I knew an Aryn before. Always thought that's a really neat-O name. Hi! Welome to alt.music.moxy-fruvous and I'm glad you are enjoying it immensely. We enjoy it when other people enjoy it immensely. > Second topic, Fruvous, on the Radio! The staions at both Universities > here play them a lot! Not that I ever hear them, but both my parents > now recignise them and tell me all the time, "they were playing Moxy > Fruvous on the radio this afternoon." Wow. Cool. That's really great. What Universities are they? Do you know if they have RealAudio feeds? And if you haven't stumbled across http://www.fruvous.com yet, do it, do it now. It's one of the most useful things in any of our lives. It's almost like Chris O'Malley, keeper of FDC, has a tin can with a wire going to another tin can for Jude at Moxy Fruvous Headquarters. Or they may use email or something. Welcome, Aryn! Enjoy your stay! - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:43:41 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: excuse my ignorance... Deseree Wiebe wrote: > > Well, I was one of the original fans, way back when Green Eggs and Ham > was available on cassette...I have every album, and don't have many > opportunities to see Fruvous, because I'm a student, and they've only > been in my province twice in the last 3 years or so. Anyways, *when* is > the new album supposed to be out? Hi Deseree. At the Fruhead Convention held in Toronto over the weekend of Feb 20th, they had a Q&A session with Jack Ross and Kevin from BLRC, Fruvous' record label in the states. In that session, I think Kevin said the album would be released in July of this year. The Frulads are in the studio right now. They are recording for the first 2 weeks of March, taking some time off, then mixing down for a couple weeks. I think Jack Ross said they'll have like 10 days off or something and then hit the touring road. It sounded like they were gonna hit more Canadian places they haven't played in awhile to support the new album, so hopefully you'll get to see them soon! Hope that helps a bit. I don't know any hard information or why it takes so long to release the album or any tour dates. Keep a look out at http://www.fruvous.com for official information about tours and the album as it becomes available! - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 17:50:59 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: New Album Excitement (was Re: If Only (Re: the many configurations Chad Maloney wrote: > I'm not a pop guru by any means and I know much less about the Beatles > than I'd like to, but to me each of those songs maybe based in pop, > but past that it's anything goes. I'd actually call them anti-pop. They have a perfect 60's pop sound, but the lyrics are anything but pop. > Get in the Car is bubble-gum pop, happy > to the point of hiding the lyrics which are vague enough to hide themselves. No it isn't! It is a very clever commentary on insecure men with small penises and what they do to try and compensate. The lyrics aren't vague at all--They are wonderful satire. And as for happy, frankly something sinister lurks behind that happy. > Lazlo is > the most straight ahead pop to me and it does it really well. Yes, but even Lazlo has it's quirkyness. Frankly it is a pretty weird song couched in a very familiar sound. > YNB is kinda > straight ahead pop, but isn't executed as well. Musically YNB sinks to the level of the Ramones, which is just what it needs to do to get its point across. It is a wonderful joke! (And BTW it is my favorite song on Moon) I guess my point is that nothing on moon is actually any kind of pop. It just SOUNDS like it. A.J. - -- "I still have to disinfect the doorknobs" --Lisa _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:16:50 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: New Album Excitement Josh Woodward wrote: > and most likely others we haven't heard. Yes, they'd all fit on a > single CD (trust me *wink*), but it takes up almost the entire 74 > minutes. Most bands wouldn't release such a CD. I'm predicting that > various tracks will get left behind, and they will end up releasing > CD single EPs for the radio-ready songs with the bonus tracks being > the unreleased songs. Or maybe they'll ditch everything they've played > and record an album of Yanni covers! Or a kids' album! Or a 74-minute > "drug sequence" jam! Also, the longer the CD gets, the more expensive making the CD is. With Live Noise, it was just the mixdown process, but with a studio album they have to perfect enough music to make them happy and perfecting nearly 74 minutes of music is hard to do. Though I put my vote in for a 74-minute "drug sequence" jam. "The new Moxy Fruvous album 'Ludes' will be available in stores soon. It included one 74-minute long track which documents in fine detail what was in the medicine cabinet at the studio where they recorded. Band member Mike Ford states 'We almost called the album Medicine Cabinet, but we felt that was a little too obvious. We wanted the contents of the cabinet to be larger than the cabinet itself and I think we accomplished that with our highly experimental Drug Sequence jam.' Jian Ghomeshi, leader of Moxy Fruvous, says 'Yeah, we know it sounds a whole lot like Lowest-Highest Point. We're sorry. But we hope this improv is more factually correct than that one [off Live Noise]. Each little bottle in the cabinet had more information on it than that damned Trivial Pursuit card.' 'Ludes' is released by the Bottom Line Record Co and distributed by BMG. This reviewer has no idea who VelVel is but they probably get some credit as well." - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 10 Mar 1999 18:13:49 GMT From: jsmooth69@aol.com (JSmooth69) Subject: Re: Great Big Sea in Philadelphia! <> Let me second that. I saw him when he opened for Tori Amos a few years ago. He was awesome. His CD "Dog Eared Dream" is a darn good one. Jason "You know boys, sometimes I just look up into the stars in the sky and I wonder, I wonder, wonder who, who wrote the book of love." - Gary Larson, The Far Side ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #253 ********************************************