From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #196 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, February 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 196 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: FruCon 2 IRC [jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn)] A thing from MSNBC -- Check it if you want [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: concert photos [limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger)] Re: Help a new wanna-be-fan out... [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Way to go Murray [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Way to go, Murray [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Re: The Rebirth of Fr-Monique (nothing serious, just fond memories of FrCon) [Fru-Monique ] Re: Dickenson... [Eve Lauria ] Re: Dickenson... ["KatieWow" ] Re: The Rebirth of Fru-Monique (nothing serious, just fond memories of FruCon) [starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (S] Re: Help a new wanna-be-fan out... ["KatieWow" ] Re: way to go jeffy [wahrend@my-dejanews.com] Re: February 19 review [starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Sta] Da List... [starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox)] Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Hello_news_group/Fr=FCvous_regression=3F?= [Eve La] Green Eggs and Spam [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: Way to go, Murray [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Re: Dickenson... [jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)] Re: Way to go Jane [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)] Re: February 19 review [starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Sta] Re: way to go jeffy [hKath ] Re: February 19 review [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salye] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 25 Feb 1999 08:06:17 GMT From: jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) Subject: Re: FruCon 2 IRC > Four hours?! Wow... try living without power for nine days in the middle > of a Canadian January... > Thank you so very much, Ice Storm '98 unnh. no thanks. The worst I've had to deal with was three days without power in a Seattle January, which just means cold and damp weather -- I ended up with bronchitis, of course, but what else is new.... I have to say, though, it was an... um, interesting experience that first day when the wind picked up, the power went out, the wind got worse, the trees came down, and everyone at IHS was quarantined in their classrooms for no less than five hours. Thank you so very much, Inauguration Day Storm '93. .... y'know, after _that_ omen, we really should have seen the Clinton debacle coming. :) - - jenn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:13:43 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: A thing from MSNBC -- Check it if you want Hey Kids. Everyone who knows me knows that I am ADAMANTLY against any and all forwards containing "warnings" about "computer viruses." But, well, my dad found this and I had him send it to me. It's off of MSNBC if you want to check it out to see if it's valid (we also looked at miningco.com to make sure). Anyway, my interest was piqued by the part about "spamming the newsgroup." This makes Heathers wary! So, read only if you wanna. Whatever you do, please accept my humblest apologies for posting a forward to this ng (an act from which I try to restrain myself). I only do it with The Collective's best interest in mind, and hope that I may be forgiven if I have committed a grievous error in someone's eyes. Thank you and good night. Heather Moore Note from HAM: If you get tagged with this sucker, disinstall instructions are available at http://www.msnbc.com/news/235662.asp. By Bob Sullivan MSNBC Feb. 11 — The Happy99.exe worm has spread very quickly around North America, particularly Silicon Valley, according to Dan Tanaka of Data Fellows Inc. “I now receive 20 or 30 copies of it every day,” he told MSNBC. The worm was apparently released on Usenet, and since last month there have been nearly 4,500 posts about it, many from users trying to find out how to disinfect their machines. Each time a user initiates e-mail or newsgroup activity, by either receiving or sending e-mail or posting to a newsgroup, Happy99 spams the newsgroup or e-mail recipient with copies of itself. HAPPY99.EXE STARTED MAKING its way around the Internet about Jan. 20, sending hundreds of copies of itself via e-mail attachments and newsgroup postings. According to Helsinki, Finland, data security firm Data Fellows Inc., the worm does not attempt to destroy files on infected machines, but it sends e-mails and newsgroup postings without the victim’s knowledge and could cause network slowdowns or even crash corporate e-mail servers. The worm, so designated because it can replicate on its own, arrives as an e-mail or newsgroup attachment and infects only users who run the attachment. Once they do, all victims see is a window with a fireworks display. But behind the scenes, the worm alters the host computer’s winsock32.dll file, the computer’s doorway to the Internet. Then, each time a user initiates e-mail or newsgroup activity, by either receiving or sending e-mail or posting to a newsgroup, Happy99 spams the newsgroup or e-mail recipient with copies of itself. Any type of activity on port 25 or 119 will trigger spam activity, according to Takata, senior software support engineer of Data Fellows. It also keeps a list of the spammed e-mail addresses and newsgroups in a separate file called LISTE.SKA. Because the original version of wsock32.dll is preserved in backup form as WSOCK32.SKA, newsgroup posters say they've been able to restore their machines without much difficulty. Data Fellows has a patch that recognizes the worm. It poses no risk to data, but can be more than a nuisance to network administrators. “If you have 100 PCs and everyone is checking e-mail at 9 a.m. and this thing starts flying around, absolutely it can slow down a network,” Takata said. “It can crash your e-mail server. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.” Because the e-mail header contains “MOUT-MOUT Hybrid (c) Spanska 1999.” Takata speculated that the Happy99 author also wrote a series of viruses known as the spanska viruses (click here for a description). Those were first reported in September 1997 and randomly displayed political messages, such as, “Remember those who died for Madrid.” MSNBC © 1999 ======= ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 09:28:32 GMT From: limezinger@aol.commmmmmmmm (LimeZinger) Subject: Re: concert photos >Ok, I'm gonna plan ahead for my next frushow. I would like to be able to >take some pictures, but not have them come out completely black. I'm going >to bive up on the automatic camera and figure out how to use my dads old >manual camera...could anyone who is a regular concert photo taker tell me >what you use, techniques, etc.....thanks i'm probably of NO help , but ... i just got my recent rolls of film back, and if you'd like to take a peek at flash vs. no flash... flash: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Subway/1978/sloan/021999/s21928.jpg no flash: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Subway/1978/sloan/021999/s21915.jpg sarah :) linnellgirl@tmbg.org ~ icq:26873712 http://members.aol.com/limezinger/ "are you an internet kid?" - chris murphy to me ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 13:00:44 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Help a new wanna-be-fan out... Okay ... sorry ... I know it was before the picture of the girl from the strip club! And I can't remember exactly what it was but KatieWow had a great rejoinder from our spot two deep Stage Mike-Jian-almost Dave. I thought it actually was "constructive profanity." Is that possible that's what it morphed into? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:46:10 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Way to go Murray Tom Salyers wrote: > > Oh, wasn't he *adorable*? Kevin Fox, right? I am just a sucker for a guy > > in geek glasses. :) > > k@ > > married someone with 20/15 vision > > Good thing I have other........attributes. Heh heh mm heh. Oh you *certainly* do sweetheart. And boy is Kat soooo jealous of me. - -- Lori, who loves causing trouble. (hint: chad has similarly wonderful attributes. :> ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 13:48:18 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Way to go, Murray On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:47:48 GMT, Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: >Actually I enjoyed Sarah's sets MORE than Susan's, although Susan >was quite enjoyable too. I really thought that trance-groove thing Sarah >has going is wonderful; her backup singer on Friday had an amazing >voice; and the cello was really cool (not to mention its player looked >ALARMINGLY like Kevin Bacon and was named Kevin to boot). Not wishing to take sides, I resist comparatives. I loved Sarah's and Susan's sets both. Though Susan did seem to connect with the audience more. Regarding the chellist, not only did he have those amazing geeky-cool glasses, but I have never before seen anyone have such an intimate relationship with a (musical) instrument in public. It was wild. - --Rodney, (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:42:31 GMT From: Fru-Monique Subject: Re: The Rebirth of Fr-Monique (nothing serious, just fond memories of FrCon) Bellaa-laa-occhio said: > I made sure I mentioned you first and you put me last. Thanks hon. Hey! I just saved best for last! :P Ya know, it's like the Top 20. (Have you printed it out and hung it up yet?) > >I don't even recall not liking Monarch and crew. > Insult my dogs once you're home and I can't leave you at a rest area. Good > girl! Ptttbbbptthh. :P :p :P > "..follow the glove.." > -Eugene, The Earl of Wexner Ahhh! LOL. What's Wexner, tho? The very silly Smoothy Früz == "Boy, you give great shirt." --Lori at the 2/21 concert _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:12:30 -0500 From: Nate DeRose Subject: Re: concert photos LimeZinger wrote: > i'm probably of NO help , but ... i just got my recent rolls of film back, > and if you'd like to take a peek at flash vs. no flash... > > flash: > http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Subway/1978/sloan/021999/s21928.jpg > > no flash: > http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Subway/1978/sloan/021999/s21915.jpg Yep.. that was my experience from these shows too, VERY red... (I didn't use a flash, though, so I can't compare) ;) They were really obsessed with the red lights this weekend! Unfortunately, to the detriment of my pictures... very few of which came out........ (Well, they all came OUT, just not WELL....) nate (who is lamenting the fact that he took 7 rolls of film which all have the same problem) An expensive learning experience. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:29:09 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: Dickenson... Dickinson consciously wrote her poetry in that meter...it's an old folksong meter. The best tune I ever found to sing it to was the theme song from Gilligan's island. It works, I tell you. Eve > > Okay. Those of you who've been on a while remember that post about all > of Emily Dickenson's poetry being in the same meter as "The Battle Hymn > of the Republic"? (If you don't, try it. Almost all of her poetry can > be sung to the tune. It's eerie.) Well, that has made me crack up > NUMEROUS times in my poetry class (much to my teacher's dismay). Anyway, > I was humming quietly to myself today and I noticed that "Whistling in > the Dark" by TMBG can be sung to BHotR as well -- at least the verses > can...it got really hard come the chorus. Anyway, just wanted to share > my weirdness. > > Heather Moore (who consequently has noticed that "The Ants Go Marching > One By One Hurrah" is also in the same meter) > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:41:14 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Dickenson... something stranger: try singing "amazing grace" to the tune of the gilligan's island theme song and vice versa. that's one of those things only kids with 13 years of catholic school (and running) are actually screwed up enough to figure out. :) ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 15:43:05 GMT From: starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox) Subject: Re: The Rebirth of Fru-Monique (nothing serious, just fond memories of FruCon) Fru-Monique wrote: : Andy (Tim!): Ooh. I love massages. Not as much as some of the people : who have received them in the past, I take it...thanks for keeping me : amused whilst Stage Dave. *chuckles* You're welcome. :) After this last weekend, I guess I'm almost the understudy to ceecee in terms of massages. I've never given so many in such a short period of time. :) Starfox "Too bad I'm not as cute as ceecee too. ;)" - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "Love, is a many splintered thing." - "Ribbons" The Sisters of Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:36:05 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Help a new wanna-be-fan out... i'm pretty sure it was something about constructive profanity as well. my comment was about the fact that written across the naked woman in the ad were the words "no cover." somehow, jian managed to miss that comment (being screamed at the top of my lungs), but heard my regular voiced comment to linda about not having class until 10:00 the following day. selective hearing, what :)? ~~kate - -- kate leahy kleahy@loyola.edu everybody loves a happy ending but we don't even try we go straight past pretending to the part where everyone loves to cry - --elvis costello ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:52:11 GMT From: wahrend@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: way to go jeffy > Woohoo! The return of Jeff Goldblum on am-mf! > I'm likin the glasses/fluffy hair from ID4. Awww yeah. ID4 - another wonderful Jeff Goldblum film. "we'll just give it a virus!" Ha ha ha! I'm curious: how many good movies has Jeff Goldblum been a part of? The only one I can think of is Jurassic Park and that is because they needed a quirky nerdy type (need I bring up holy man, or the dozen other nameless films that I find in the bargain bins). "wild" Bill (still tired after all of these days) - -- Meet James Endsor, Belgium's fameous painter, dig him and shake his hand, appreciate the man. - TMBG, James Endsor - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 15:34:00 GMT From: starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox) Subject: Re: February 19 review Trace wrote: : Well, there are definitely stalker-esqe moments in the song, but it is : not wholly negative. What Jian articulates perfectly in the song, but : hasn't explained fully in his prefaces, is that the content of the : song is the kind of thing every woman would *love* to hear from the : man she loves, but would cringe to hear from the guy she's tryng to : break off with. It can be taken two ways, depending on the perceived : attitude of the person the song is directed to. Stalker, or dedicated : best friend and lover...it can work either way in my opinion. I still : think of it as a positive song, whatever Jian says, but I can : certainly see what he means.... I also think that it's a warning of sorts of being careful about loosing yourself too much in another person. The danger of loving somone so much that you sacrifice your own desires and wishes, to an unhealthy extent. I love this song because it has alot of meaning and is very open. you can take it as a pure love song, or as a more cynical one. - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "Love, is a many splintered thing." - "Ribbons" The Sisters of Mercy ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 16:00:55 GMT From: starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox) Subject: Da List... Da Official, By-No-Means-All-Encompassing-List O' People I Would Like To Thank. Rose: Thank you SOO much for the crash space! 10 Fruheads in such a close proximity has got to violate some kinda Natural Law. :) Mike Wood (not of comic strip fame): You da man! Goofy, but you da man. :) hKath/Ingrid: The only person I've slept with (get your minds out of the gutter) more on Frutrips is Bill. "Wild Bill" (and bro): You guys Rock! it was good to see yah again. George: You are the zaniest guy I've met in a while. Glad to have finally done so. ceecee: Always a pleasure. Even being out of commission, you're still the greatest. Ner. :) Sara (no h): Thanks for the great massages and the many many hugs! Josh: Dig the goatee dude! It's wicked. April: Stick around more next time! You're cool! Chrissy: Alright damnit, when we doing the DNA test? Rachel: You're fun! Even if you couldn't remember my name. :) Misty: My vote for Best Dressed. One word: Wow. :) Traci: OhmigodIamSOgladIfinallymetyou! :) You have a standing offer for a massage at any time. :) Stephanie: Ha! I know your name now! :) Lacey: I'm glad you got into the venue! We need to get you rowdy! :) Caitlin: We're old, aren't we? February b-days RULE. :) Jen (and the rest of the people in the backseat of my car): Don't you wish everyone used Dial? :) Kevin: wonder who's lap is more comfy, eh? :) Everyone else I've missesd here: Thanks for being apart of the greatest weekend in a while. :) Starfox "Till next time..." - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "Love, is a many splintered thing." - "Ribbons" The Sisters of Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:45:57 GMT From: Eve Lauria Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Hello_news_group/Fr=FCvous_regression=3F?= I believe I will take this opportunity to share with you-all the song Leah and Jess and I were singing about Dave all weekend. It goes to the tune of "Hava Negila:" Have a tequila Have two tequila Have three tequila They're pretty small! Wow, that has such a nice symmetry! Crazy weekend. One of the craziest moments was in the car ride back at 4am, when Leah was exceptionally punchy on diet pepsi and decided that the world was comprised of Jian. Well, Jians actually. Everyone is Jian with a number but for some reason the rest of the band isn't 2,3, and 4 but something like 4,6, and 9. I have no idea. She amended it later in an email I might post if I figure out how to post things on the ng without actually responding to someone else. Eve Lauria > > Oh yes. I made a trek from Nashville to DC and Philadelphia for my > 30th birthday weekend so I could spend it with Früvous. It was an > amazing birthday. When I returned and my friends asked me how it > went, I invariably responded, "It was dreamy," and feigned a swoon. > I behaved like I came from the pages of a teen romance novel and I > knew it. > There was something wonderfully cathartic about celebrating my > 30th by regressing back to behavior associated with folks > half my age--skipping class, hanging out with people I barely knew, > screaming for a great band, having my picture taken with all of the > bandmembers, having them sing Happy Birthday to me, and sleeping > on someone's floor. I hope I can always hang on to the ability to do > this. It seems that Früvous fans never lose this ability, eh?...I think > that Früvous has a wonderful ability to bring out the kid in all of us. > > Mollie > mollie@frumail.org > (Let me also clarify that I'm using "regression" in strictly a clinical > sense...I don't mean to imply in any way that behaving in a "younger" > fashion than you are in years is in any way inferior or backwards.) > > ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 16:17:11 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Green Eggs and Spam The Clinton (Iowa) LumberKings, a Class A minor league ballclub, will be having a "Green Eggs and Spam" night at the park sometime this summer and I've suggested to the PR guy that he check out FDC to see if there's a way they can tie in GE&H. I've directed him to the website so we'll see what happens ... hey, maybe Fruvous could do the anthem that night and then I'd have an excuse to road trip!. Oh well, just a thought. Plotting QL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 16:08:48 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Way to go, Murray On Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:38:07 GMT, nafio@my-dejanews.com wrote: >Brent is a very cool person and he knows way too much about Toronto. It was >so cute to see him after the show, beaming like mad and announcing "Jian >called me a f*cker!!!" (I guess it wasn't enough of a deterrent, Ji. >Especially since I hear somebody tried to start up the "Way to go Murray" >thing on Sunday night again) > >Fiona Warning: Off topic, old-fart story ahead. Please skip this story now. As some of you already know, I am a Marx Brothers fan. One of the many characteristic traits of Groucho was is amazing ability to rapid-fire insult anyone and anything at any moment. Just mention a person or a topic to him, and he would cut it up like nothing else. This skill was developed and honed when the brothers performed in Vaudeville venues, where the audience could get pretty harsh at times. This is one of the things that Groucho became famous for, and later in life, it came back to haunt him. When he would go on talk shows, or on his own game show, "You Bet Your Life", he would insult people and it would have the exact opposite of the desired effect. Someone would get insulted, and they would turn to their friends and say "Did you see that! Groucho insuled me!" all happy and excited and hoping for more. So it seems that Jian and Groucho Marx have at least that trait in common: it is an honour to get insulted by either one of them. Jian: you can insult me anytime! - --Rodney, (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 17:01:56 GMT From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe) Subject: Re: Dickenson... I tried the Dickenson stuff to "Gilligan's Island" in english a couple months ago, and cracked up the people in my row. But, i determined something interesting yesterday when trying to study for a history exam with a TMBG song in my head. Mrs. Bartolozzi's notes on the Reconstruction period fit perfectly to the tune of "Particle Man" ~mitch ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "We wanna go to Paradise, everyone there says it's so nice, everyone there has their own TV with their own episode of Biography, everyone there has 25 lovers and each of them dreams only of me......." the nields ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:11:31 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: Way to go Jane In article <7b2tb2$aun$6@knot.queensu.ca>, 6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca says... > Katrin, did those pictures I took of you and Jian turn out? Well, the Jian part turned out (even though he was blinking in one), but I look exactly like the total dork that I suspected I did. Maybe I can replace myself with Bernie or something. k@ ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 1999 17:25:32 GMT From: starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net (Starfox) Subject: Re: February 19 review Katrin Luessenheide Salyers wrote: : Okay, but what does it mean when both members of a couple think the song : is great, but one sees it in the "stalker" light while the other insists : it's a sweet pure love song? It means you were meant for one another. Hail Bob! :) Starfox "What about Bob?" - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "Love, is a many splintered thing." - "Ribbons" The Sisters of Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 17:10:14 GMT From: hKath Subject: Re: way to go jeffy In article <7b3rj6$j2$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > I'm curious: how many good movies has Jeff Goldblum been a part of? The only > one I can think of is Jurassic Park and that is because they needed a quirky > nerdy type (need I bring up holy man, or the dozen other nameless films that > I find in the bargain bins). Depends how you define 'good'. I always thought Earth Girls Are Easy with Geena Davis, Jim Carrey, Damon Wayans and Jeff Goldblum was pretty 'good'. But I also think you might find it in the bargain bin. - --hKath, whose .sig is feeling pretty pertinent Representative Blond and Little Insurance Firm *insert random Topon Das quote here* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:17:14 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: February 19 review In article <7b3qh8$1sa$1@fnord.nationwide.net>, starfox@Bacon.Eggs.And.NOSPAM.nationwide.net says... > Trace wrote: > : Stalker, or dedicated > : best friend and lover...it can work either way in my opinion. I still > : think of it as a positive song, whatever Jian says, but I can > : certainly see what he means.... > I also think that it's a warning of sorts of being careful about loosing > yourself too much in another person. The danger of loving somone so > much that you sacrifice your own desires and wishes, to an unhealthy > extent. I love this song because it has alot of meaning and is very > open. you can take it as a pure love song, or as a more cynical one. Okay, but what does it mean when both members of a couple think the song is great, but one sees it in the "stalker" light while the other insists it's a sweet pure love song? k@ not saying which is which ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #196 ********************************************