From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #103 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, February 1 1999 Volume 03 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- FruCon II [Thomas Fazzio ] It's That Time of the Month Again [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: Dinner in DC, Feb 5 [koogle@clark.net] Last chance to vote! [Paul Mischler ] Rest in Peace [koogle@clark.net] New Waiting for Bob storyline [Doug Sheppard ] Arrogant Worms article [nafio@my-dejanews.com] Re: talent show [fruwench@aol.com (FruWench)] Re: Dinner in DC, Feb 5 [melzie@elsewhere.fragment.com (Melzie)] Re: Kids Books and a tough situation [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] falcon ridge camping info? [epbuckley@my-dejanews.com] Re: Falcon Ridge Info [Marie.Claude@canada.com] Re: Weird Action Figures/dan bern(s) [richardbutterworth@my-dejanews.com] Re: Fru-Articles: Dayton loves the lads! (II of II) [jrstoat@aol.com (JRS] Re: talent show ["KatieWow" ] Re: Fruvous Confirmed for Falcon Ridge '99!!! [Chad Maloney ] Re: David Sedaris [VJohnson ] Re: Weird Action Figures/dan bern(s) [Chad Maloney ] Re: Neil Gaiman's Nevermore [ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry)] rest in peace [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 05:13:03 GMT From: Thomas Fazzio Subject: FruCon II OHMYGOD!!! Crap! I need help... I tried ordering tickets online to the Saturday night concert, but it said SOLD OUT!!! Can anyone help me on this? I really need 4 tickets badly, I can't read the newsgroup so please e-mail me at fazziote@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu if you can help. Thanks all! later, tom. Thomas Fazzio Computer Science '01 Clarkson University fazziote@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 05:40:49 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: It's That Time of the Month Again Ok now that I've guaranteed all the males are looking elsewhere.. the quote page has been updated again. Please check for errors or omissions. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3227/ Enjoy Fiona "I'm SO a Dave's people if it weren't for Mike..." - -Marie-Claude Nov 16/98 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 05:51:00 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Re: Dinner in DC, Feb 5 In article <19990131131710.09539.00002607@ng-cg1.aol.com>, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: > Hey all ... (Plus my husband, King Wayne, works near the Red Sea and says it's a > really long walk to 930 from there and since it's kinda chilly and the > neighborhood isn't the greatest, I'll pass). Yeah, I wouldn't consider the Red Sea walking distance from the 9:30 club, particularly after dark and if you're from out of town. Also, Adams Morgan (the neighborhood where the Red Sea is) isn't really Metro-accessible. However, it has a *lot* of restaurants. If you're going, let me reiterate, take cabs or a car. The Red Sea is a really good Ethiopian place, and it's worth the hassle if getting to and fro. Better safe than sorry. :) - --Amanda - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:03:19 -0500 From: Paul Mischler Subject: Last chance to vote! Okay everybody, it's your last chance to vote for Moxy Fruvous at CDNow.com... We've been a bit asleep, and fruvous has slipped a touch from it's number 7 spot down to number 9. (Now, for those of you that like the Love Potion #9 Medley, that may be just fine, but for me, 7 is heaven.) So, if you haven't voted yet, take a stop by cdnow.com. Click on the right side on the "Browse, Vote & Win" link. Then, click on the left side on the link labeled "Cast your ballot". Then, you can put in your favorite artist, Moxy Fruvous, and you can aslo put in your Worst Artist choice. Some nominations up to this point have been: Madonna, Hanson, Marilyn Manson, among others. So, Voting closes at: 10:59 AM ET on February 1st! That's TODAY! (Well, later. I don't really count today being tomorrow since I haven't slept yet. And, speaking of sleep, I think I'm going to go do that right now.) So, have a magi-fruvically delicious day. - -Paul Mischler Unoffical Registrar of Voters ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 06:25:06 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Rest in Peace I had some sad news a few days ago; the person who first uttered the phrase "Moxy Fruvous" to me died last Thursday, by her own hand. She could be a difficult person to be a friend to, but it was well worth the effort; she and I shared a love of literature and often recommended books to each other. About two years ago she told me I ought to hear a song from "this band from up here." (She lived in Victoria, BC), that mentioned a lot of writers. She quoted some of it to me. It turned out to be Authors. I remembered the name of the band in the back of my head, but I never actually sought out the song until it found me. I knew somebody had told me about them, but I couldn't think of who. She hadn't been online much since last summer, and a couple of months ago I began to think that I ought to drop her a line, for a reason I couldn't put my finger on. After I read the news of her death, I remembered that I was going to write and tell her she'd been right about Fruvous, probably more than she imagined; that I had seen them play live many times now, and had found a few moments of transcendent bliss in doing so. I listened to Wood that night. It helped some. Telling a couple of people in my life how much they mean to me helped even more. Thanks, Jenn C.; and may you rest in peace. - --Amanda - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 01:23:53 -0600 From: Doug Sheppard Subject: New Waiting for Bob storyline Waiting for Bob starts a new storyline this week: Sean and Jane go on a road trip to see a band. It's not just a road trip, it's a -- but wait, why ruin the surprise? :-) Waiting for Bob - http://www.waitingforbob.com/ - No Godot, either. (Written by people you'll see at FruCon, so it's on-topic. Nyah.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:50:25 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Arrogant Worms article Yes this is on-topic.. the Worms mention Früvous a few times. Besides I know some of the gang who went to Windsor were at the Worms show in Toronto last night. http://www.canoe.ca/JamColumnSlotek/jan25_comedy.html Fiona "I'm SO a Dave's people if it weren't for Mike..." - -Marie-Claude Nov 16/98 - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 1999 11:53:45 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Re: talent show >Ok, I need your help. My friend and I signed up for the talent show, but we WHAT talent show? (Did I miss something again?) ladywench FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:04:14 GMT From: melzie@elsewhere.fragment.com (Melzie) Subject: Re: Dinner in DC, Feb 5 In article <793fc2$6hg$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, wrote: >In article <19990131131710.09539.00002607@ng-cg1.aol.com>, > bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: >Yeah, I wouldn't consider the Red Sea walking distance from the 9:30 club, >particularly after dark and if you're from out of town. Yah! I second that one! I go to Adam's Morgan for 3 things...MESKEREM!!!!! (and the tej they serve :) ) Ben and Jerry's and the Marshal Keys jazz band on Wednesday nights...otherwise...the lack of metro accessability, overabundance of random drunk drivers packed tightly together searching out impossible to find parking, and the lack of safety I feel wandering at night... well....keeps me away the rest of the time. Hmmmm....I live on the border of DC -- s'pose I could offer up my l'il house as a gathering point. I'll certainly offer any crash space anyone needs. Tired drivers are worse than drunk drivers :) Oh..sorry to surface so random and sleepy but take what you can get :) *smoooch! Melz aka slightly tired and barely congealed cheesecake :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:29:42 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Kids Books and a tough situation Wow. This is a tough situation. Only you and your wife can decide when your daughter is old enough to deal with death, even in abstract. Learning about the death of someone close, even fictional, is particularly tricky at an age, such as three and a half, where the child has difficulty distinguishing between 'real' and 'pretend' characters. I don't know when you are going to finish Charlotte's Web, but at the right time, it is one of the ideal books to use to bring up death. The book does not end with Charlotte's death, it ends with Charlotte's progeny living. The book is a perfect example of growth, learning, change, and the cycle of life. It starts in the spring when everything is blooming, and it ends again with everything anew. All the animals go through this repeated cycle, where Fern is shown growing up and changing. When the book is explored, even in part, as a study in the way nature works in cycles, the impact of the death of Charlotte is lessened. In the meantime, perhaps your daughter is ready for Stuart Little, which has a happy ending. On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:13:30 GMT, hakmusic@juno.com wrote: > >The tough situation is that we felt that our daughter, now 3 1/2, was ready >to handle bigger books without pictures, so we are reading her Charlottes >Web. She absoluetly loves it. She enjoys each nights reading segment and >talks about it all the time. Wilbur and Charlotte have become important parts >of her world. Both my wife and I forgot, however, that Charlotte dies in the >end. While my daughter knows that plants die, and understands that when we >eat chicken it is the same as the animals that she sees in stories, but she >doesn't have any understanding that people, or animals that she gets attached >to die. When we first realized it, we were going to read her the end and use >it to broach the subject, but we've now decided that it is too much, because >she has gotten so attached to Charlotte, so now we are going to have >Charlotte go off to rest. - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:11:25 GMT From: epbuckley@my-dejanews.com Subject: falcon ridge camping info? hi y'all *sproing* this is unprecedented; it's before 9AM on a monday and i'm bouncing... having just visited the FRFF site and checked out some of the info. it didn't answer all of my questions though (yes, i'm an impatient little bugger); maybe those of you who have been before can? bear with me, i only have about 85 questions. it looks like the site is not exactly primitive camping (showers, etc, onsite); what is the setup? are there porta-johns, where do you park, does the camp space ever fill up? do they allow camp stoves? fires? how early do you need to get there in order to get a good (flat) spot? does anyone remember (ball park) how much weekend tix with camping will cost? how close are things like grocery stores, or is it better to stock up on things like food before you get there (assume i can't afford to eat festival food all weekend)? is there any climbing nearby??? ok, i don't expect anyone here to be able to answer that one. ;) and finally, who besides me is already allocating vacation days? ;) *sproing* peace, ellen (looks like my tent is getting *lots* of use this summer =) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:22:16 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: Falcon Ridge Info >On the Mainstage so far > >we have Greg Brown, Ani D, Vance G, Cry Cry Cry, Cheryl Wheeler, Karen Savoca, > >Susan Werner, Stacey Earle & the Jewels, Wild Asparagus, Peter Ecklund with > >Strings Attached, Moxy Fruvous, Ferron, Tony Trischka Band, Peter Mulvey, > >Mustard's Retreat, Eddie from Ohio and The Nields plus 2 special guests, > >Vanida Gail formerly of June Rich and also Cliff Eberhardt. Forget Murray, *I'm* the puddle. Here I am, sitting and starting to seriously think that there IS a god. Marie-Claude, waving at all the people she's gonna see again there. "Yeah, we talk funny." -- Murray (6/22/98) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 14:37:37 GMT From: richardbutterworth@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Weird Action Figures/dan bern(s) One of an infinite number of Chads wrote: > [1] That's the same as humourous I think, Richard > In which language exactly? Not English. Not the even proper, correctly spelt English which we use over here[1]. No, humorous is fine thanks, having two ou's in one word would be completely insane. Look at Loughborough; everyone who has ever lived there is unutterably mad[2]. Says so on my medical history report. Tinkerty tonk Richard [1] Seeing as there's at least three of us from the UK reading this I now feel confident enough in our numbers to start an anti-American-stop-knackering-our- language flame. [2] An attempt to flush out a lurker. That means *you* Jon! - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 1999 15:17:54 GMT From: jrstoat@aol.com (JRStoat) Subject: Re: Fru-Articles: Dayton loves the lads! (II of II) >>> if anyone from out of town (or anyone unfamiliar w/ the area) is interested in a pic of a map of that area, i've got one scanned & would be glad to send it your way. just ask. :) <<< Hi. Yes, please, I'd love a map. I'll be coming up from Cincy. Thanks, Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 10:17:31 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: talent show _the_ talent show. you remember--every year, your school had "the talent show." that's its name, no matter what school it is. it's an american institution, an inexorable part of the academic experience--the talent show. you sign up for the talent show, you dance/play the piano/sing in the talent show, years later you blush at videos of the talent show. it's the talent show--what more need be said :). ~~kate, who's shi*t and "eph" (phonetic :) keys don't seem to be working right now, and who is really starting to get aggravated by that . . . grrr . . . - -- **************************************************************************** Kate Leahy kleahy@loyola.edu **************************************************************************** nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight gotta kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight - --bruce cockburn, "lovers in a dangerous time" and so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches. - --douglas adams, "hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy" we're splitting into two camps--mike, i'm with you. - --jian ghomeshi, bottom line, 1/1 *************************************************************************** FruWench wrote in message <19990201065345.00905.00002164@ng-fd1.aol.com>... >>Ok, I need your help. My friend and I signed up for the talent show, but we > >WHAT talent show? (Did I miss something again?) > >ladywench > > >FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . > >"For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and >know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:55:53 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Fruvous Confirmed for Falcon Ridge '99!!! Scott Perschke wrote: > > The following was written to the Dar Williams list by Anne Saunders, > the musical director for the Falcon Ridge Folk Festival: Pardon me, but one place with: Greg Brown, Moxy Fruvous, Peter Mulvey, Eddie from Ohio and The Nields ... is just going to blow my mind apart!!!! I mean, I'd go a good distance for any one of those bands (EFO in Indianapolis on Saturday was really great - Nields are gonna be here on Feb 5th too!) but all of them!! Wow! Plus a lot of those other names are incredible as well! Wow wow wow! Reading this post made for a better Monday! Thanks for the info, Scott. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:02:28 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: falcon ridge camping info? epbuckley@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > hi y'all *sproing* > > this is unprecedented; it's before 9AM on a monday and i'm bouncing... having > just visited the FRFF site and checked out some of the info. it didn't > answer all of my questions though (yes, i'm an impatient little bugger); > maybe those of you who have been before can? bear with me, i only have about > 85 questions. Hokay, Let's see... > > it looks like the site is not exactly primitive camping (showers, etc, > onsite); what is the setup? No, not primitive camping. Camping isn't really the point of the experience there, it is more of a means to an end (ie. lodging). There are lots of portajohns and some trailers with restroom/shower facilities which are brought in. Water is available in the form of large tanker trucks which are positioned at various places around the festival. As I recall there are basically 2 areas to camp in. (And yes they do fill up.) There is a large camping area on the periphery of the farm where you can just drive in, park, and camp right there. This area has the advantage of having flat ground and water/facilities nearby. You also get to have your car at hand. The downside is that it is a bit farther from the stages. The other camping area is up on top of the hill, above the stage areas. This is where many of the fruheads camped in '97. It is not, however where I camped, so my knowledge of it is more sketchy. The obvious thing about the hill area, is that you cannot drive there, so you have to park and carry all your stuff uphill. I also believe that the facilities up there are more scarce, so I think you may have to come down to find showers, water, or portajohns. (Anyone who stayed up there want to correct/elaborate?) The advantages of the hill would be the view, access to the stages, and a sense of superiority over the sheep camping down by their cars. Oh, and it seems to me that Fruvous made some jokes about the hill people, so you get that too. :) > do they allow camp stoves? fires? Camp stoves yes. Fires, no. > how early do > you need to get there in order to get a good (flat) spot? The majority of the spots are pretty flat (although low--drainage--that is another advantage of the hill spots), but I'd have to tell you to get there as early as possible. The one other thing I would say about the camping is this: The spots are all in open fields. There are no trees. The sun can really get to be hot out there. You need lots of sunscreen. Also I noticed a lot of people put up canopies to make their own shade (and shelter from the rain they've had every single year). I found this to be a brilliant idea. I wouldn't camp there again without a canopy. > does anyone remember (ball park) how much weekend tix with camping will cost? Don't remember. It was kind of expensive sounding at first, ($80 maybe) but not really that bad when you consider that you were getting camping and 3 days of music. > How close are things like grocery stores, or is it better to stock up on things like > food before you get there (assume i can't afford to eat festival food all > weekend)? It would be a bit of a drive to a store. Not killer, but I'd advise buying lots of ice and all the food you will need in advance. I don't think you are gonna want to be going off to the store. > is there any climbing nearby??? ok, i don't expect anyone here to > be able to answer that one. ;) Well there are mountains... - -- "Life is so much simpler without sauce." - -- Lisa _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:03:18 -0500 From: VJohnson Subject: Re: David Sedaris Funny funny man, David Sedaris! And his sister, Amy, is a riot actress as well. I had the good fortune of seeing David's play "Santaland Diaries" a few years ago and just about peed my pants. My friend Brian absconded with my copy of "Naked" last year and I can't seem to get it back. Oh well. :-) Best, Victorria petit_chou@juno.com wrote: > Cameron Ross asked: > >As anyone read "Naked" by David Sedaris? or anything else he's > >written? > > Heather said: > >...Haven't read Naked, but it's next to buy. I've heard good things. > > Heather says again: > Okay, so I just got back from the library and I got "Naked." I'm gonna > take an hour or so to indulge myself in it (instead of taking a nap, > which is sometimes risky, cause I get really crabby without my midday nap > -- I'm either really old or really young, I swear). I'll let you know. > Cameron, it'd better be good. (/me shakes finger faux-menacingly) > > Heather Moore (PS Lizzie -- I was reading the SantaLand Diaries to my > friend while she was driving and she had to pull over cause she was > laughing so hard she couldn't see properly. They should put a warning on > that book: "Do not read/listen to while driving, working with chemicals, > or operating heavy machinery.") > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:19:45 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Weird Action Figures/dan bern(s) richardbutterworth@my-dejanews.com wrote: > Look at Loughborough; everyone > who has ever lived there is unutterably mad[2]. Says so on my medical history > report. *beep be-beep beep beep beep* This just in. Using high-powered telescopy, agents in the United States have secured a medical report from their Top Secret spy satellite system nicknamed Zoom. The commander in charge of Zoom had this to say: "We wanted to prove we could do something at least semi-useful so we could keep getting our insanely huge bugdet filled. We talked to some uppity-ups from the government and they requested some medical history report for this British guy we'd never heard of. We asked if he was some sort of foreign spy or terrorist, but the uppity-up merely mumbled that he really needed to hit the book store because his purchase list has topped a page." The commander then ended with "You wouldn't know where to get some Arrid XX Gel Active Fresh scent? Oh, nevermind." Using a high strength industrial lens like those used in the Hubbell telescope and some very thick glasses, the satellite picked up an unknown medical report which was inadvertantly left atop a filing cabinet over the weekend. Certain pieces of the report have been declassified and can be included here: [classified] [classified] Look at [classified] Loughborough [classified] everyone who has ever lived there is [classified] [classified] unutterably mad. [classified] [classified] Son of God [classified] [classified] married [classified] Liz Taylor [classified] [classified] Stand in Pope [classified] [classified] Send money soon, mum! [classified] [classified] From preliminary research and guesstimation from this first use of the satellite system, it is thought that the government can know everything about everyone that has ever occurred. When asked about this, the Project Zoom leader said "Our photocopying expenditures are enormous, but we can usually piece together the important bits of Playboy each month a full three weeks before it hits the newsstands!" *end report* Keeping the masses informed... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 1999 17:40:25 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Grover Yeah, I had a similar experince while in Sick Kids in Toronto as a really small child. My dad bought me a Kermit doll to make me feel better while I was in the hospital. I still have it here at university. While my sister was in Sick Kids last year I tried to convince him to buy me the giant Kermit doll they had in the gift shop, but he wouldn't go for it. Something about "being an adult, there's no way I'm buying you a $90 stuffed Kermit." Some people! :) :) Veronica - -- *************************************************************************** "Never look at the trombones, | Veronica Gruneberg it only encourages them." | Dept. of Biology - Richard Strauss | Queen's University | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 18:20:20 GMT From: ross_hendry@bigfoot.com (Ross Hendry) Subject: Re: Neil Gaiman's Nevermore On 31 Jan 1999 03:33:21 GMT, aleigh992@aol.comBROCCOLI (ALeigh992) wrote: >>>_neverwhere_ by neil gaiman. >> >>Now... am I the only person who immediatly thought TV Show after finishing >>that book?? Because if there ever was a book more suited to becoming a TV >>show, it's that > >:-) > Now I may have missed the point here not having seen the original post but it was originally a BBC tv program. However, before you all go out and try to track it down, from what I remember it was pretty bad. It was shot on video and lit for film and believe me, you will notice. It looks like a childrens program and the effects, if I remember correctly, were pretty ropey. The beast thing (long time since I read the book) looks like someone through a rug over the family dog! Stick to the book, better pictures. Ross It's the Galaxies Greatest Comic, Now check out it's web site! http://freespace.virgin.net/g.hendry/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:39:58 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: rest in peace I was going to reply to Amanda's previous post, but I accidentally deleted it before I had the chance. I suppose it's just as well that I start fresh and just share my own thoughts about our friend. As with so many of the people I feel closest to these days, I never met Jennifer in person. I never even saw a photo of her, so the only idea of what she looked like is an imaginary (and certainly inaccurate) picture in my mind. We were friends. At one time we had a major falling-out, which contributed to my temporarily leaving the group we both belonged to. We eventually made amends (for which I'm now more grateful than ever), but I soon drifted away from that crowd, and I hadn't heard from or about her in many months. The news brought a lot of us back together who had gone our separate ways. We agreed that it was a shame that it required a tragedy to make that happen, but that's the way things often are. One of my first thoughts - which I dared not say that night - was that it had been only a matter of time before something like this occurred within our circle; the only question was who it would be. Jennifer had been on my list of likely candidates, I suppose, but nowhere near the top. I'll never mention whose names I'd have thought before hers, but I have been doing a lot of thinking about those people lately. I suppose I have her to thank indirectly for my being in this group now - she's the one who first turned Amanda on to Moxy Früvous, and Amanda is one of the people who passed the favor on to me. Our "old" online community has a large contingent in Toronto, and many of us are planning to meet (some for the first time) at one of the shows at Lee's. Whatever differences we've all had in the past, it's sure to be one hell of a reunion. Earlier in the day before we received the news about Jennifer, I'd been going through some old e-mail. I ran across part of a conversation I'd had with Amanda, about seeing one's dreams again and regaining hope that seemed to be lost. I had written then that sometimes things in life really do get better, and occasionally they even stay that way. On a sentimental impulse, I'd forwarded that message to her again, just as a reminder of how much has gone on in all our lives within the past year or so. This weekend I stopped by the home of a friend with whom I'd had some disagreements. I wanted to try to patch things up with her, but she wasn't there. I left her a note saying that life is too short to hold a grudge. I wrote a letter to my family. I took two people off my /ignore list on IRC. I hope I never forget that it's not worth waiting to do things like this; the time to do them is always now. And I wonder how much longer this song is going to be stuck in my head. Peace, Jenn, wherever you are. k@ "...no place left to go, no place left to go..." ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V3 #103 ********************************************