From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #154 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Sunday, December 27 1998 Volume 02 : Number 154 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: speaking of fru-gifts... ["^kat^" ] Re: Gifts (one at a time, thank you) [Mulder4213@aol.com] Re: speaking of fru-gifts... ["Aye, who's asking whom?" ] Re: When,s Rushmas? [Ambush Bug ] Re: LA show (directions etc.) [Chad Schrock ] Re: LA show (directions etc.) [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] new album? ["Balloon" ] Re: 12 Days of Christmas (not a fru-spoof) [email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (] Re: um? um? um? hello? *sproing* [email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole Car] Attention, Cookie... [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers] Rushmas [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)] A very Frvous Christmas [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) ["P. Gruneberg" ] Re: Amusing things that I notice at a latter date: ["ellen p. buckley" ] Re: new album? [koogle@clark.net] Ottawa to Frucon? [Rachel Barreca ] Re: Pollstar Question [koogle@clark.net] Re: speaking of fru-gifts... [jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn)] December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) [petit_chou@juno.com] OT: TONIGHT!!! (Sunday) RHPS in LA, anyone? [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 00:34:18 -0500 From: "^kat^" Subject: Re: speaking of fru-gifts... >Count me in. We usually open our gifts at midnight on Christmas eve, >although we didn't when I was young and believed in Santa :) At that >time we only opened one on the eve. I'm not really sure why we follow >that tradition now, but you're not alone. **and** >>My family (my dad's side of it at any rate) does the same. *grin* hey, glad to hear i'm not the only one with that tradition. my mother tells me i never really believed in santa, tho' i do remember finding an extra gift or two in years gone by on christmas morn from the jolly elf himself. [wrapped in the sunday comics & my father's handwriting. hmm...] about four years ago we tried opening them all on christmas morning... and it was just too weird. we, too, open them one at a time--but then again, there's only myself & my parents & grandmother [read: no over-anxious youngsters]. i tend to think that most of the joy comes from watching the happiness on the face of the recipient of your gift, and if there's a package-opening frenzy, you miss out on that little pleasure. i'm feeling just a bit sentimental right now: i just watched _it's a wonderful life_ for the first time on tv. *sniff* every time a bell rings... ^kat^ "at the final moment i cried-- i always cry at endings" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 06:13:09 GMT From: Mulder4213@aol.com Subject: Re: Gifts (one at a time, thank you) In a message dated 12/26/98 12:03:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, petit_chou@juno.com writes: > Adam said something like: > >We also do something I've never seen any other family do. We open > >gifts one at a time, with the youngest person in the room starting... > > We also open one at a time. Always. NEVER at the same time. I spent a > Christmas Eve with a friend and her family opens then (not on the 25th). > I got to watch her fam open prezzies. It was this crazy mad frenzy (not > unlike that fish who freaked when it listened to "Message" that someone > just wrote about). People were throwing presents all over the place and > paper was flying and people were shrieking and it was all very freaky. > It was all done in about ten minutes. In my house, we open on the 25th > and we open one at a time. It's a long and involved process. My brother > has taken to numbering his presents so he knows the order in which to > distribute them. It's kinda funny. But anyway, I'm with ya on the one > at a time thing, Adam. > > Heather Moore Hey, we do it one at a time as well! I'm the youngest, so I usually end up handing them out. I grab one randomly and give it to that person, who then opens it. I then find one from someone who hasn't opened one yet. I usually end up going last. But that's the way we do it around here, only slightly different than the passing the buck thing that was the original post here. So yeah, you're not alone. dan would rather catch a live recording ircnick spookydan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 01:30:46 -0500 From: "Aye, who's asking whom?" Subject: Re: speaking of fru-gifts... >[traditionally, our family opens presents Christmas eve, though i rarely encounter any others who follow the same practice. Yup! When I was a kid, we'd open presents at dad's mom's on Xmas eve, as that's when we'd have the Massive Splaying of Seafood. Baked calamari, octopus, baccala (a fish soaked in bleach and water that's changed every day for five days)... >*shrug* there's less magic on christmas morning, i believe...]. Not so! I'd get my main presents the next morning, and a leftover batch at the other grandma's. Yes, my childhood was good... >i've decided my literary quest for '99 will be to read works by all the >authors mentioned in the song. anyone know of particularly engaging titles >by Burroughs or Lessing [or any others, for that matter]? Okay, here we go. Actual answers: * William S. Burroughs-- Naked Lunch; Junky; Place of Dead Roads (published in 1983. A later book, it shows his maturity and it's more relaxed). * Bell Hooks-- Ain't I a Woman: Black Women and Feminism; Killing Rage: Ending Racism. * Pierre Berton-- The Klondike Fever; the "Battles of the War of 1812" series; lots of other books about Canadian history. * Mario Puzo-- Godfather; Fools Die. * W. P. Kinsella: Shoeless Joe (yeah, the Field of Dreams book). * Robertson Davies: Fifth Business; the Manticore; that other book in the Deptford Trilogy. There are lots of others. Should you like to find out more, try one of the traditional, famous, and very commercial booksellers online. One of them has a name based on a tribe of female warriors (The WACS! That's right!). - -wacs on, whacks off, gets yelled at for being a pervy, Dante ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 15:51:14 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: Re: Pollstar Question Remember when koogle@clark.net said: : Me too, but in time for the DC show. :) Speaking of which, if you haven't done : so already, go to http://www.pollstar.com and sign up for their tour date : notification service. You select what artists you want, and it sends you mail : when those artists has new tour dates. Quick question: I hate getting lots of junk e-mail. Will pollstar send me just the tours I asked for or will I get newsletters, updates, and -- ugh -- ads as well? Thanks! Merry Boxing Day! Mike - -- "This tattoo won't come off. I thought it was the lick 'em/stick 'em kind. But I couldn't figure out what that machine was for. Or why I was in so much pain." -- Mary Prankseter Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 15:56:58 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: Re: When,s Rushmas? Remember when DALevy said: : Umm, I don't mean to get political here, but if we CELEBRATE Rushmas, doesn't : that suggest we're endorsing his commentary and viewpoint? Something tells me : that kind of misses the point of the Fruvous song, among other things. Dunno, I think Rushmas should be celebrated as a holiday in which we are all more tolerent towards our fellow peoples. I think that the spirit of Rushmas should be one of forgiveness and friendship and a celebration of diversity. 'course I think that about Christmas, too... Heck, I wouldn't mind if every day was like that. Regardless, you can celebrate a holiday in your own way without giving heed to the original spirit, if you want. I've been to a number of Christmas parties this year, including one Thursday night, and have traded a number of gifts. But I'm Jewish. I'm celebrating a chance to be with friends and have a happy time of the year. I'm not celebrating the birth of anyone (except my niece, but her birthday isn't until Monday, although we're celebrating that in about an hour with yummy dim sum, but I digress). Mike - -- "This tattoo won't come off. I thought it was the lick 'em/stick 'em kind. But I couldn't figure out what that machine was for. Or why I was in so much pain." -- Mary Prankseter Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:32:01 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: LA show (directions etc.) DALevy wrote: > > It was fun to arrive in LA yesterday and find an ad for the Ok, I have a quick question Doug... If you live in SF, when are you ever there? :) > Roxy announcing: "Straight out of CANADA Eh! Moxy Fruvus" > on Jan. 7. OK, so they spelled it wrong. But at least the > guys are coming out here. - -snip of great directions- - -- chad at radix dot net I don't nag. I mention the hell out of things. --me. sort of. :) ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 19:14:09 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: LA show (directions etc.) Chad wrote: Ok, I have a quick question Doug... If you live in SF, when are you ever there? :) Well, er, hardly ever, it seems. Though I was there in September when the Fru-lads played there. And this week I was only in three different cities and one of them was SF (Seattle and LA being the other two). So I'm getting better! Heck, I have only two cities on my itinerary for next week. It is holiday time, after all. Cheers. Doug ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 19:33:08 GMT From: "Balloon" Subject: new album? Has anyone heard anything about a new Fru Album? I know that they are touring now...but do they have any plans to record another album soon? hope someone knows, thanks. Eric "Action" Jackson HellHotel@tmbg.org ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 20:00:27 GMT From: email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole Carlson) Subject: Re: 12 Days of Christmas (not a fru-spoof) On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:39:01 GMT, petit_chou@juno.com wrote: >Does NO ONE observe the twelve days of Christmas anymore? Does NO ONE >know that they come AFTER Christmas and lead up to Epiphany? Does NO ONE >celebrate Christmas *all through* Christmastide? I do; my family's French. My mother bakes her galette des rois, and we all eat it. Yum. - --nicole twn hopin' to get the feve this year... next year... whatever. P.S. I won't be making the LA show--my finances possibly permit either that, or Frucon, but not both. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 20:00:31 GMT From: email.me@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole Carlson) Subject: Re: um? um? um? hello? *sproing* On Fri, 25 Dec 1998 03:14:17 GMT, "P. Gruneberg" wrote: >TTTHHHHPPPPFFFTTTT!!! :) I think all December babies will agree with me >- it's not so much the getting one gift for two occasions (which sucks a >bit, especially when people are downright rude about it. Like I chose to >be born 6 days before Christmas...) but the fact that people tend to >forget about your birthday amongst all the Christmas plans. Perhaps >that's just the bitterness of my inner child who could never have >birthday parties 'cause it was over the holidays. I'm with ya. I'm a December baby, too (it was the 8th; I turned 21), and, oddly enough, so is my sister. What really drives *us* nuts is when we get a birthday/Christmas present for both of us. Four gifts in one, hurrah. But we used to have these great birthday parties where we and our friends decorated gingerbread houses. Ahh, the memories. - --nicole twn she of the sketchy Internet connection ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:32:32 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Attention, Cookie... ...Or anyone else in the LA area. Apologies once again for posting this publicly, but I don't have your e-mail address. It looks as if my plans for seeing the LA show may be coming together, and so now I'm looking at options for transportation and lodging. A kind- hearted fellow fan with a car and some floor space would sure help save on expenses...or if nothing else, I could use some recommendations for the cheapest way to get around there. It'll be me and, I hope, at least one other person coming in from Denver on the bus (and I have no idea where the Greyhound station is in relation to the Roxy!). Please respond to this message by e-mail. Thanks a lot in advance! k@ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:25:10 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Rushmas In article <76310a$krc$2@callisto.clark.net>, buggy@shell.clark.not says... > I think Rushmas should be celebrated as a holiday in which we are all more > tolerent towards our fellow peoples. I think that the spirit of Rushmas > should be one of forgiveness and friendship and a celebration of > diversity. I think that's an excellent idea, Bug. Maybe we should start our own little holiday tradition around 1/12. I try to remember also that that includes being tolerant of people like my ex-boyfriend - such a big Limbaugh fan that when his VCR broke down, he actually put his video tape on top of the TV so that he could look at the case (I am not making this up). > Regardless, you can celebrate a holiday in your own way without giving > heed to the original spirit, if you want. I've been to a number of > Christmas parties this year, including one Thursday night, and have traded > a number of gifts. But I'm Jewish. Yeah, I agree - someone recently asked me if I celebrated Christmas, and I replied that I celebrate a generic secular winter holiday that usually happens to fall around 12/25 'cause it's convenient for most of the people I know. Regardless of the individual purpose for celebrating, I feel it's important to have some sort of regular traditions to mark events and the passage of time. If those traditions can be shared by large numbers of people, so much the better. The December/January holiday season has been a time of several untimely deaths among my family and friends, and so amid all the gift-exchanging frenzy I often find myself feeling like it's Samhain - a time to remember those who have passed on and to look forward to new beginnings. It works out, 'cause I usually don't feel that way around the end of October when I'm "supposed" to, but it fits right in a couple months later when everyone is wishing "Happy New Year." k@ Just making it up as I go along ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 21:31:52 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: A very Frvous Christmas In a true Christmas moment, yestrday while listening to NEW out of NYC, I heard a radio ad for the Bottom Line, including the früvous shows. Consider this is a post from someone who had never heard the words "moxy früvous" uttered out loud by anyone but herself (ok, we're not counting the stuff on the CDs ;-), or people she is trying to get to listen to them(and then usualy pronounced wrong...). So to actually have the name broadcast over the radio airwaves was mighty darn exciting. Plus I snagged You Will Go to the Moon and Wood from the relatives (who for some reason tend to refer to them as "moxy pervous" which is rather disturbing...) I feel like a real fan now ;-) Wow-- this and snow on the ground. What a holiday ;-) ~jen *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:23:21 GMT From: "P. Gruneberg" Subject: Re: 12 days of Christmas (not a Fru-spoof) You're supposed to take Christmas lights down!!!??? :) Oh sure, the indoor ones, but you ever tried climing up on a roof in Toronto in January? Brrrr.... :) Veronica Trace wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Dec 1998 04:12:31 GMT, Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > > > > >We undeck the tree on or after Jan. 6, NEVER before. I also try not > >to put the wise guys at the manger before then (at least on those of > >my nativities that have a)movable pieces and b) wise guys.) I got this > >tradition from my highly Catholic godfather. > > > >We also keep our holiday lights on every night until at least the 6th. > > > > Gee, I've got you all beat. We sometimes don't get our lights down > until Feb. I think our record went into March, but we got quite a few > snowstorms that year :) We really spread that holiday joy around, and > around, and around and.... > > -- > Trace > gemini@p3.net > > "I'm not clever enough to be unintelligible." > -Jane Austen, "Northanger Abbey" > > "It would have to be the most inglorious death of all, > 'The Bathroom Accident.'" > -Murray Foster, on the preferred manner of death for > Fruvous publicity. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:21:26 GMT From: "P. Gruneberg" Subject: Re: speaking of fru-gifts... My family gets the dual tradition, too. We visit my dad's mom Christmas Eve, have the traditional German Christmas there (when I was young, we'd go for a walk and look for Santa, who always magically made it to my Oma's house while we were gone...) Then we open gifts from immediate family on Christmas morning, then to my mom's family for dinner that night. Nor do we have a free for all with the gifts. Well, we did when my sisters and I were little. We were known as the "Rip-and-Tear Sisters". Now each person collects the gifts they are giving from under the tree, hands them out, we open... oooh and ahhh... show off gifts... then on to the next giver. And yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, read the Deptford Trilogy!!! Davies was required reading for the Canadian authors section of my OAC (the 5th year of Ontario high school) english class, and I fell in love with "Fifth Business". I had to run out and buy the rest of the trilogy. I've just started "The Stone Diaries" by Carol Shields. (Canadian author, but not in the song.) I figure and book that won the Governor General's Award and the Pulitzer Prize has to be worth reading. Very good so far. :) Happy Boxing Day, all!! :) Veronica ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:02:02 +0000 From: "ellen p. buckley" Subject: Re: Amusing things that I notice at a latter date: Chad Schrock wrote: > I'm really sure that my name is chad. I even have the letter > signed by a judge of the Anne Arundel County Circuit Court to > prove it. :) eh, those things prove nothing. my officially signed birth certificate, on record in union county, NJ, says i was born february 14, 1070. peace, ellen (the crusades were cool, but man! that battle of hastings was rough...) ************************************************************ "sometimes the songs that we hear ellen p. buckley are just songs of our own..." ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:06:55 +0000 From: "ellen p. buckley" Subject: Re: speaking of fru-gifts... ^kat^ wrote: > i've decided my literary quest for '99 will be to read works by all the > authors mentioned in the song. anyone know of particularly engaging titles > by Burroughs or Lessing [or any others, for that matter]? thanks and happy > christmas/hanukkah/etc... William S. Burroughs wrote The Naked Lunch, which i confess to never having read, mainly because i saw the movie and it was creepy-weird enough to scare me off reading the book. ;) peace, ellen (we open christmas eve, too, but only since my generation of the family started having kids. the kids open christmas day; the adults Xmas eve after the kids have gone to bed. that way, xmas day is all about the kids.) ************************************************************ "sometimes the songs that we hear ellen p. buckley are just songs of our own..." ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 23:52:42 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Re: new album? In article <763dlk$1b9$0@206.231.153.89>, "Balloon" wrote: > Has anyone heard anything about a new Fru Album? I know that they are > touring now...but do they have any plans to record another album soon? hope > someone knows, thanks. Fruvous should be headed back into the studio in March, which, as remarked at the recent show in Pointe-Claire, PQ, is spring in Toronto, but still winter in Montreal. Naturally nobody has any idea what will turn up on the new album, but they've been working on a lot of new songs in the past month or so. So, if everything we've heard is true, by summer '99 we should have a new Fruvous album. - --Amanda, just capsulizing word on the street - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 26 Dec 1998 23:57:14 GMT From: Rachel Barreca Subject: Ottawa to Frucon? Thought I'd check in and see if anyone is going to the Frucon from the Ottawa area, and whether they would have any room in a car to take one more person? (I am more than willing to share gas costs.) Email me privately, if you are willing. Thanks so much - -- Rachel the moxy woman, CCC, MOXIML "Scully and Mulder - brave, beautiful and good." -review of TRIANGLE 6X03- =========================================================================== Senior Resident, Carleton University Current Affairs Director @ CKDJ 96.9 FM, Ottawa's New Music [http://ckdj.comnet.ca] V.P. of the S.P.C.D.D. (TM) **OUR MOTTO: DEFEND, ENLIGHTEN & PROTECT** [http://www.geocities.com/~spcdd] [2600 members strong & still growing!] =========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 00:04:56 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Re: Pollstar Question In article <7630li$krc$1@callisto.clark.net>, Ambush Bug wrote: > : go to http://www.pollstar.com and sign up for their tour date > : notification service. You select what artists you want, and it sends you > : mail when those artists have new tour dates. > > Quick question: I hate getting lots of junk e-mail. Will pollstar send > me just the tours I asked for or will I get newsletters, updates, and -- > ugh -- ads as well? I don't know, I just signed up for it myself, and the only thing I rec'd from them is a confirmation of my sign-up. There should be information about other mailings on the registration form on their web site. - --Amanda - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 27 Dec 1998 04:24:28 GMT From: jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) Subject: Re: speaking of fru-gifts... > William S. Burroughs wrote The Naked Lunch, which i confess to never having read, > mainly because i saw the movie and it was creepy-weird enough to scare me off > reading the book. ;) I feel your pain -- I can't even think about Arabic typewriters without cringing. ;) (I saw it in a Canadian media class. My prof described it in three words: "Strange Canadian movie.") - - jenn ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:00:30 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: December Babies (was um...hello...*sproing*) Nicole wrote: >I'm with ya. I'm a December baby, too (it was the 8th; I turned 21), >and, oddly enough, so is my sister. What really drives *us* nuts is >when we get a birthday/Christmas present for both of us. Four gifts >in one, hurrah. I, too, am a December Baby. Born on the 12th of the month (I love that - 12/12!). For the first time ever, this year I got a combo birthday/Christmas gift from my best friend (it was an amazing Union Jack messenger bag). That was so weird. All my life, everyone's been pretty cool about not stiffing me in the gift arena (I sound so so greedy, don't I?). Anyway, I digress. Point is, I'm a December kid who usually makes out okay 'round the holidays (no lewd jokes, damnit!). Heather Moore ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 04:35:56 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: OT: TONIGHT!!! (Sunday) RHPS in LA, anyone? Since Beth Miles (Beth From LA, for all you FruCon I attendees) and I are getting together for the Rocky Horror Picture Show tonight in Santa Monica, I've decided that what the hell, may as well post. Maybe some other fruhead will join. Where: Nuart Theatre, Santa Monica, Los Angeles When: TONIGHT!! Sunday 12/26. Show starts at midnight. What to bring: Last I knew, they were allowing nothing that looks remotely like a gun... don't know what else they allow. Directions: From I-495, take the Santa Monica (Rte. 2) exit. Going south on 495, take a right off of the exit; going north, take a left. The Nuart will be on the same block as the freeway, on your left, right beside a Subway sandwich shop. It has a marquee. Take a left at the first light and then a left into a parking lot in which, undoubtedly, there will be several freakish-looking people in black clothing hanging out. I won't be one of them. :) The only black clothing I'll be wearing is my FruCon I t-shirt. I'm 5'5" and have long brown hair which will in all likelihood be tied back in a ponytail. Come say hi and have fun! - -Vika Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net "The wonderful thing about Shakespeare is that when it's done well, it makes people feel smarter than they are. As opposed to dumber than they are. There is really no in-between." - Spencer Golub ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #154 ********************************************