From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #146 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, December 22 1998 Volume 02 : Number 146 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Gulf and the pres [Fru-Monique ] Re: Gulf and the Prez [cookie ] Re: Bottom Line - Sold Out? [aadler1@tiger.towson.edu] Re: Fruvous Dreams [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: [The Pres] [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Gulf and the pres [kevin@kevin.research-inc.com ()] Re: Gulf and the pres [Juliette Lexington ] Re: Bottom Line - Sold Out? [memphiseve@aol.com (MemphisEve)] Re: Either/Or (x-files) [jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7)] Re: Gulf and the pres [Chad Schrock ] Re: Immigration (was: Gulf War II) [Chad Schrock ] Re: Gulf and the Prez [Chad Schrock ] Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion [Chad Schrock ] FruCon Tickets!!!! (was: Re: Bottom Line selling out?) [Chad Schrock ] Re: [The Pres] [bodaceah@aol.com (Bodaceah)] Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion [tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)] Re: Holiday Music [Krista ] Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion [tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)] Michy [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Give Peas a chance (was Holiday Music) [Krista ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:07:47 GMT From: Fru-Monique Subject: Re: Gulf and the pres - ---Starfox wrote: > > Fru-Monique wrote: > : impeachment process. Now I'm not a Republican and I'm not saying that > : he ordered the strike to boost his ratings, but it *is* a little more > : than coincidental, don't you think? Is anyone else reminded of "Wag > : the Dog"? > > Whatever. Clinton did NOT strike Iraq to divert attention like in > "Wag the Dog". This action has been building for quite some time. I > mean, if you are going to go with silly Hollywood inspired rationale > for real-world actions, I'd go with the X-Files explanation. That > Saddam is just an American stooge who rattles the sabre anytime we > need a diversion. > > But seriously, I wonder what kind of song the lads would write about > this Gulf action. "We got a call, to write a song, about the > bitchslapping in the Gulf." Okay, mebbe not. :) Yeesh. Sorry. I've never even seen that movie. I just thought it sounded like now. And I DO like the X-Files theory. I just forgot it while I was typing. Going back to moxychat now, Monique _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:18:57 -0800 From: cookie Subject: Re: Gulf and the Prez Arbie Fru wrote: > > This does seem to be the point: How much can you blame a guy for dodging a > question he shouldn't have been asked any way he could. Period. Now if > Monica felt that he had used his position as her boss to get sexual favours > then that is an offence and he'd better not lie. I'm glad you brought up this point! A few years ago, a friend of mine was sexually assaulted by her boss in their office. What had happened was, they went to a local restaurant after work hours so he could buy her dinner and give her her job review. He gave her a glowing review and a substantial raise, then after dinner, they went back to the office so she could pick up her purse and coat. It was at this time that he pushed her against the wall, kissed her, and touched her inappropriately. (He was also married.) She managed to push him away from her and ran out of the office. When she got home, she was so upset, she called me to help her figure out what she should do. She ultimately left her job and sued him for harrassment. After a few very emotional months, they ended up settling out of court. As an additional part of the agreement, no one could discuss the terms of the settlement. My point is: Here is a man who committed a CRIME of sexual assault in the workplace, and he still not only has his job, but has anonymity as well, yet our President is only guilty of lying about a consensual affair, and as a result has been publicly disgraced and may ultimately lose his job. Somehow, it just doesn't seem right to me. Cookie respond to: cookie@2cowherd.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:37:35 GMT From: aadler1@tiger.towson.edu Subject: Re: Bottom Line - Sold Out? For the person who asked about the NY shows - (sorry, my server needs to die, I couldn't get back to find your name...) I just called the Bottom Line, and I am not sure about the other shows, but the 1/1 early show still has tickets left. Unfortunately, one has to go through the arduous task of sending a certified check in the mail for them. (Unless, of course, you live in NY and can get there in person.) I just thought I would start my newsgroup debut by being helpful to someone :) Hello. I'm... - -anna- - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:51:48 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Fruvous Dreams oopsy=+) Go me! Grammar Girl!!!! or should I say grammEr? As for the dreams, Well what can I say? I just like to share. If I need to edit any Ill put in a lil snip, but I cant snip the wacky parts. it shows yuo what Im like!!!! Beware!!! Fruchild *smirk* On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:11:50 GMT Fru-Monique writes: > >> Wack, huh? I supposedly don't use grammer skill while writing down >> dreams. Then again, I don't really use 'em in any other case =+). >Be >> afraid, be very afraid >> >> Fruchild > >Right on, Fruchild! I've always been a little intimidated to post the >whole of some of my dreams. But yours was definitely wonky. >BTW, "grammEr"! That's how I spell it! (Take THAT, Juliette--I'm not >the only one who spells it wrong!) :) > >Monique > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:24:34 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [The Pres] owner-ammf@smoe.org wrote: I read in the paper the other day that our fine federal government ended a program that gave blankets to the homeless. Their reasoning, no more money. So what other programs are we going to have to give up in order that we can have a president who sets a moral standard for the rest of us to follow? jude *************** Jude, this isn't directed at you, but it is inspired by your last comment: I didn't elect Bill Clinton to be my moral leader. I didn't elect him to be the model for my interpersonal relations. I elected him because I felt he could get the job done and in political and international manners would better represent our country. I don't care that he got involved with his intern, and I think she's stupid and quite idiotic for talking about it and letting it escalate into a matter of national focus (she could have stopped it early on, but let it reach a point where the matter flew out of her hands. Personally, I'm not sure if I'd want the world to know I'd gone down on [sorry if that's offensive] anyone, that's my business). As far as that's concerned, the only person Clinton has to answer to is Hillary and Chelsea. They could have addressed the issues of purjoring himself without dragging out all the gory and graphic details across the internet and into Prime Time Television. I also find it frustrating that so many people are declaring what a terrible person he is and has failed as our moral leader and whatever. That's not in his job description!!! He's a government official, responsible for governing the country! I know it's an extreme leap, but I can't help but think of that wonderful phrase "separation of church and state," since when do we turn to our Senator for spiritual guidance. To me, personal morals fall in the same category. I'm sorry if I'm ranting, December has turned to be not the best of months for me and my nerves are raw and I'm getting very irritable. If I've offended, please to forgive. - --Angie Like a stone in a stream, Life smooths all our edges 'til we barely make a ripple anymore --Edwin McCain ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 1998 21:49:46 GMT From: kevin@kevin.research-inc.com () Subject: Re: Gulf and the pres >President; there were two or three people running other than Clinton, >Dole, and Perot. However, since I knew nothing about those >candidates, I couldn't vote for one of them. I never understood that I actually voted for Harry Browne, the libertarian candidate. mainly because I hate partisan bickering. it's like watching two six year old siblings fight. Kevin Way fruvous at overtone dot org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:46:46 GMT From: Juliette Lexington Subject: Re: Gulf and the pres - ---"Jack S. Porcello" wrote: > No, I am not pro Clinton, nor am I anti Clinton. In >fact, I didn't even vote in that election. "Well, >then, you have no right to say anything then, Jack, as > you did not take part in the decision!" you may say. > Well, the reason that I didn't take part in that >circus, or any other election, is that I refuse to >choose between Tweedledum and Tweedledee (or Tweedle-dumber) in such an important thing as this. My >conscience would not allow me to pick a representative >f me when *none of the above* was the only choice for >me. I understand completely what you mean. Of course, I wasn't yet old enough to vote when the '96 election was held. In my American government class at the time, we got to see who was running for President; there were two or three people running other than Clinton, Dole, and Perot. However, since I knew nothing about those candidates, I couldn't vote for one of them. I never understood that "if you don't vote, you have no right to complain." If you don't like who's running in the election, how can you choose "the lesser of the two evils" (so to speak) and feel alright about it? In a way, in the words of George Carlin, those who vote don't have much of a right to complain since they're the ones who elected the person they're complaining about. Then again, people change and people can manipulate others, so even those who elected those people can change their minds. Okay. Enough of my little rant. Hopefully, it made some kind of sense; I've lost the ability to tell what makes sense and what doesn't. :) - -Juliette == "Santa Claus is smoking reefers...." - Squirrel Nut Zippers _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 21 Dec 1998 22:10:37 GMT From: memphiseve@aol.com (MemphisEve) Subject: Re: Bottom Line - Sold Out? >For the person who asked about the NY shows - (sorry, my server needs to die, >I couldn't get back to find your name...) > >I just called the Bottom Line, and I am not sure about the other shows, but >the 1/1 early show still has tickets left. > >Unfortunately, one has to go through the arduous task of sending a certified >check in the mail for them. (Unless, of course, you live in NY and can get >there in person.) > >I just thought I would start my newsgroup debut by being helpful to someone >:) > > Hi Anna, You were helping me out. I accually would rather go to the earlier show - I have a friend who's band is playing later that night. Since I don't live in NY I have "to go through the arduous task of sending a certified check" during the holiday season when everyone and their mother is mailing things. I think I'll call first and see if they will put them on hold. Thanks for your help. And welcome to the newsgroup - I'm new too. Phyllis ------------------------------ Date: 22 Dec 1998 00:55:17 GMT From: jacey7@aol.com (Jacey7) Subject: Re: Either/Or (x-files) >>You know what? I'm never seen the show. I've seen a few bits and pieces and I can't say I was impressed<< >I've seen "The X-Files" a few times, and I'm not overly impressed. < The thing with the show is, the more you see, the better it gets. I only started watching it April, after, like you, seeing bits and pieces here and there over the last 5 seasons and being less than wowed. But when you start getting te "big picture" storylines and seeing how everything fits together, as opposed to just the self-contained, wrapped-up-in-an-hour plots, that it starts to really reel you in. Give it a chance... ;-) ~jen *~~~"Measure your life in love"~~~* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:23:51 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Gulf and the pres Fru-Monique wrote: > But I still am unsure. If I say he should be impeached, bunches > of liberals will jump all over me. I doubt it. Most liberals (real ones) don't care much for Clinton. And, if you think the Prez should be impreached, I'm not going to jump all over you. Especially since he already has. :) Oh, Starfox, I *love* the idea for the new song... "A bitchslap in the Gulf." :) - -- chad at radix dot net http://www.smh.com.au/news/9812/22/features/features3.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:39:35 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Immigration (was: Gulf War II) Trace wrote: > babbled coherently, for once: > >Of course, those 10 years will probably be less interesting than > >the Eisenhower administration. > > Chad, but if the past year has been an example of an interesting > administration, I could go for a little boredom :) No, this past year hasn't been interesting. It's been pathetic. - -- chad at radix dot net Who was in a bad mood, but was just listening to "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor on MoreFM. That is such a cool song. Now, I'm in a good mood. :) Too bad that whenever I hear it, I think of that scene in "Pricilla, Queen of the Desert." (Which is a cool, if sometimes disturbing, movie. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:49:07 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Gulf and the Prez Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > Like, these congressional and special-prosecutorial guys aren't > wearing jackboots and flying in in black helicopters, but they're > just as heavy-handed in their way as the "ATF thugs" the Michigan > Militia and all the other wackos out there think are the problem OH MY GOD[S]!!!!!!!! FRUCONTENT!!!!!! On a Früvous newsgroup. Who'd a thunk it. :) Prez Clinton or Prez Gore? FL Hillary or FL Tipper? paper or plastic? coffee or tea? wood or YWGGTM? YWGTTM or LN? Christmas or Ramadan? Ramadaon or Hannakuh? Hannakuh or Solstice? shampoo or conditioner? - -- chad at radix dot net whoa. what a trip...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:53:16 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > chad said meekly, > > >I wouldn't gush over Chad, but if someone wanted to gush over > >me, I wouldn't complain. :) > > Hey, I'm an equal-opportunity gusher: > > chad: rarely have I had such fun talking dirty with someone I've > only once met. Hey, don't go there. Especially since you're the one with the degenerate mind. Besides, you started it. > Tom: Katrin's made rubbing your fuzzy pate sound *so* appealing, > I may just have to give it a try ... I'll be in line next to hKath. > > Richard: /me swoons at such deft wordplay! > > Chad: ooh, that bass-player vibe, baby, ooh! I like Richard's idea for a band, though. ;) - -- chad at radix dot net ¿Dónde está la muerte? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:00:51 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: FruCon Tickets!!!! (was: Re: Bottom Line selling out?) I don't know anything about the BL shows, but people, IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE FRUCON SHOWS GET YOUR TICKETS EARLY. Call TicketMaster Canada and order the Friday and Saturday tickets now. (Have the Sunday tickets gon on sale yet?) Not later. They will be sold out later. Then you will post desperate messages to the newsgroup, begging for tickets. (While the rest of us taunt you with countdowns. :) Let's not have a repeat of NoHo, shall we? Just a friendly reminder. MemphisEve wrote: > > I am going to be in NYC New Year's Day and want to go to the > 10:30 show. Has it sold out and what do you think the chances > are I'll be able to buy tickets the night of the show? - -- chad at radix dot net The people at TM are nice. Really. The lady I spoke with apparent;y went to high school with some of the guys, and they signed her yearbook. She was quite surprised that I was coming all the way from Maryland. :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:02:27 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Amusing things that I notice at a latter date heather noticed: >Lori wrote (on the 19th, sorry) >>Don't sweat it, 'ti-chou. >It just occurred to me that your nickname for me could be read as >"tissue." HA! I am just utterly baffled and amused that a Scotswoman such as yourself has a French endearment for an address. Me like! Me like very very much! - -- Lori (the little murrmaid) (sorry Juliette and Monique, ladywench was the one who inspired this use of murrmaid. Well, ladywench ... and Mr. Foster :) ) (I've been just dying to ask Juliette what her middle name is though. ;) ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:57:49 GMT From: Krista Subject: Re: Holiday magic cookie wrote: One thing I really enjoy about Christmas is > listening to all the old Nat King Cole Christmas records. > Happy Holidays! Yup, I love a lot of the old Nat King Cole stuff! My favorite Christmas album would have to be my Ella Fitzgerald one. Beautiful, soulful singing. If I could have the voice of any woman from the past or present, I would probably choose Ella's. ---Krista--- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Dec 1998 04:11:58 GMT From: bodaceah@aol.com (Bodaceah) Subject: Re: [The Pres] >Jude, this isn't directed at you, but it is inspired by your last comment: > Well that's good because my comment was extremely sarcastic, of course you couldn't have known that without hearing the inflection in my voice. Which you couldn't The day i look to a politician to show me the moral high road is the day i give up morals all together. jude "Does fuzzy logic tickle?" "Headline: Bear takes over Disneyland in Pooh D'Etat!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:21:16 -0700 From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers) Subject: Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion In article <2fcc17ac.367dcbed@aol.com>, Srm9988n@aol.com (Srm9988n@aol.com) says... > Tom: Katrin's made rubbing your fuzzy pate sound *so* appealing, > I may just have to give it a try ... I'll be in line next to hKath. All righty! I'll be over at nine. ;) - -- Tom Salyers "Now is the Windows of our disk contents IRCnick: Aqualung Made glorious SimEarth by this Sun of Zork." Denver, CO --from _Richard v3.0_ http://www.dimensional.com/~tsalyers/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:17:09 GMT From: Krista Subject: Re: Holiday Music Mulder4213@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/17/98 1:34:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jsmooth69@aol.comblah writes: > > > Now how could anyone forget the Christmas in the Stars album with suck > > wonderful hits as... > > suck as?? *lol* i hope you meant such as.... Oh, he meant *such* as...gee, this whole thread makes a lot more sense to me now... Krista, feeling *really* stupid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:22:49 -0700 From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers) Subject: Re: "Whoa!! Hey!" said Marion In article , katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) says... > r.j.butterworth@mdx.NONASTYSPAM.ac.uk says... > > Okay lads, lets form a band. chad can talk dirty over Chad and me doing a > > funky bass/mandolin backbeat, while Tom, um, Tom offers his head to members > > of the audience. > > Maybe you oughta rephrase that for the sake of clarity...:) They have to buy me dinner first, dammit. I'm cheap and easy, but not *that* cheap. > And for what it's worth, he plays trombone. Used to. I haven't picked one up and tried to play it seriously for a good ten years now. - -- Tom Salyers "Now is the Windows of our disk contents IRCnick: Aqualung Made glorious SimEarth by this Sun of Zork." Denver, CO --from _Richard v3.0_ http://www.dimensional.com/~tsalyers/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:47:52 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Michy Guys, please dont wound me! Im yet a young'un the moxy and have much to learn about my country. Could someone please explain to me the Michigan Militia? And what does it have to do with cows? Fruchild, feeling very uneducated ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 04:47:52 GMT From: Krista Subject: Give Peas a chance (was Holiday Music) > > Duncan wrote: > > > Where can one get these CDs? Arrogan Worms, specifically.... > O.K, I feel compelled to tie this thread in with the "Fruvous moments" thread to create...(dum da dum dum)...an Arrogant Worms moment!! Here in Alberta, there is a Life Management course that I have to take in order to graduate. This, for a lack of a better word, sucks. Why, you ask? An example: we spent last week learning about - brace yourself!! - the four food groups. Yes, you read correctly, the four freakin' food groups. Apparently Alberta Education is not aware of the fact that this is a basic concept covered in elementary and junior high alike. So anyway, to the point (and yes, I *do* have a point). One assignment we were expected to do was create a Pro-vegetable slogan. Our teacher, worried that this task would be too taxing on our brains, put an example of one such slogan on the board. He drew a huge peace sign, and wrote in block letters below it, "GIVE PEAS A CHANCE". Of course, my mind immediately went to the end of the "Live Bait" version of "Carrot Juice is Murder". I don't think I stopped laughing all period. My classmates all sat there like patio furniture, surely thinking, "what the hell is *wrong* with her?". I can't say that I have any kindred spirits in *that* particular class ;-P. Basically there are just a bunch of dormant stoners who look like they haven't laughed in about 4 years. (I have nothing against stoners in general, just *these* particular stoners ;-).) Krista ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #146 ********************************************