From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #133 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, December 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)] [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Lues] Re: LA show questions... [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. [gordonlew@aol.com (GordonLew)] Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. [Mulder4213@aol.com] OT: Homeward Bound :) [drea1@my-dejanews.com] Re: Starbucks [Richard Butterworth ] The Onion [Ambush Bug ] Happy Rushmas [Ambush Bug ] Bottom Line on the Bottom Line [Paul Bonphatti ] Re: Sad Today (was:[Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)]]) ["Jason A. Reiser" ] Re: Holiday Music ["KatieWow" ] Re: Gulf War - Part II ["KatieWow" ] Re: Happy Rushmas [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Gulf War - Part II [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Holiday Music [jsmooth69@aol.comblah (JSmooth69)] Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Sal] Re: [Re: Holiday Music] [Angie Armstrong ] Sad Today [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Holiday Music [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)] OT: Your ex-boyfriend's a... [katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide] Re: Gulf War - Part II [Maige ] Gulf War - Part II ["Schwan, Phil" ] Re: [Re: Holiday Music] [jsmooth69@aol.comblah (JSmooth69)] It finally happened!! [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] Re: Gulf War - Part II ["Schwan, Phil" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:34:39 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: [Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)] In article , Eve.Lauria@oberlin.edu says... > Fruchild wondered: > > You aren't alone=+). I have a question...Why did Murray cut his hair? > > Let me just add in my 2 cents...Murry looked beauteous with long hair. > Not that he isn't swell now...maybe he'll grow it. Okay, then I'll put in my 2˘ too - I never saw Murray in person with long hair, but judging by pictures I've seen, I prefer it the way it is now. (Not that any of us has any say on how he chooses to wear it, of course.) :) k@ ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 06:20:29 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: LA show questions... Chad wrote: > >Speaking of a car, for those of you that live in the area, is >this a good idea: > - fly to SAN > - take train from SAN to LA > - take cab from LA to the Roxy > - take 0230 bus from LA back to SAN or wait > until 0610 train > >And, if I do take the train, can I get double-Frumiles for >taking the most forms of transportation in a day? :) As much as I advocate public transit, the train will only get you to downtown LA. It's a long and costly cab ride from there to the Roxy -- and an even longer bus ride if you wanted to even try that. Traffic from San Diego to LA can be pretty hellish, but all things considered, I think a rental car from San Diego will be the most cost-effective and probably the best use of your time. Just be mindful that the 405 Fwy is a parking lot most of the day in both directions. Your San Diego relatives may be able to give you alternate routes. Good luck and safe travels. Doug Levy San Francisco DALevy@NOSPAM.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 07:00:31 GMT From: gordonlew@aol.com (GordonLew) Subject: Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. > >My brain has now rededicated all of its priorities to the best possible >mapping of Moxy Fruvous to the stars of South Park. I just wanted you to >know that it was all your fault. > When you are done with that try Gilligan's Island. I see Mike as the Professor. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:15:56 GMT From: Mulder4213@aol.com Subject: Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. Speaking of Fruvous and South Park... did anyone else catch the parallell between tonight's episode and the Fruvous/Starbucks issue? Is it just me or was that damn odd? It was even Harbucks in the episode, obviously alluding to Starbucks running small coffee shops out of business... dan, dan, the fruvous fan(with no life besides irc and tv, it appears) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:57:18 GMT From: drea1@my-dejanews.com Subject: OT: Homeward Bound :) No, not the song *g* - me :) Tomorrow afternoon I fly back to southern Ontario to spend Christmas with the 'rents, which means no computer access for about two weeks. (/me watches a.m.m-f and #mf dance with joy ;>) So Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, or Happy Holidays (for those who celebrate neither holiday :>) to everyone... To those of you going to NYC for New Year's, have a great time! For those going to Toronto, see you in two weeks *g*! A special thanks and Frühugs to everyone on #mf who listened to me whining and feeling sorry for myself this past weekend - things are getting better guys, thanks for being there :) Drea (a mere 14.5 hrs from departure *dance*) "Everyone's a novelist, and everyone can sing...but no one talks when the tv's on..." - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:20:32 +0000 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: Starbucks Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > Vika asked: > > > Although, *are* there coffee > >growers who treat their workers fairly? I know there was talk about > >some in Massachusetts, but I later heard that that wasn't really true. > >Anyone? > > Equal Exchange. 251 Revere Street, Canton MA 02021 > (781) 830-0303 or www.equalexchange.com Oxfam are noted for their fair trade work over here. Check out... ...which has lots of fair trade links. Mostly European, but I did notice there were some American links in there. Tinkerty tonk Richard (who only started drinking coffee after visiting the States...) - ------------------------------------------------------ `I was a rose in April and still a rose in June, I fear that come the winter I shall no longer bloom.' Kate Rusby - ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 12:15:15 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Holiday Music Favortie Christmas Albums folks? Mine would be: The Chieftains' "Bells of Dublin" The Christmas Revels "Sing We Now of Christmas" "Christmas in he King's Court" (Pan flute and harp) And "Twisted Christmas" with such songs as Oh Come All You Grateful DeadHads, The 12 Pains of Christmas, etc. ladywench FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 12:26:06 GMT From: fruwench@aol.com (FruWench) Subject: Gulf War - Part II I know this is not the place to post this, but it is the only place for me. So my apologies up front. I know at least one person who I'm sure will be thrilled if the US moves troups into Iraq. He is currently a career Army officer stationed in Germany and just WAITING (I would say dying but I'm a bit superstitious - although dying in battle would be his idea of glory) to take his troups into battle. This man was my first boyfriend when I was a freshman in college - young, naieve, impresionable, stupid (me not him). For him I quit ROTC because he disapproved, for him I changed my major, for him I was ready to uproot and follow him from base to base. Fortunately, we broke up. But because of him, I carry a deep rooted sense of support for our troups. Not the war, or the politics - which can sometime cause me great emotional confusion. So before the whole ball of wax starts to melt all over the place . . . here's good wishes to the boys on the front lines. May they come home. ladywench FruSpace - We came, we saw, we slept on the floor . . . "For we can still love the world, who find a famished kitten on the step and know recesses for it from the fury of the street" - Hart Crane "Chaplinesque" ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 13:03:08 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Holiday Music The Bobs' "Too Many Santas," PDQ Bach's Christmas songs ("Good King Kong" and the like), Tuck and Patti's Christmas album (I know it doesn't fit in with the rest) and, of course, Adam Sandler's "Chanukah Song" ... oh, and Alvin and the Chipmunks' Christmas Song. But I also have to admit that every time I hear "I'll Be Home For Christmas" I get serious goosebumps and start to cry. (Sang it as my big "Christmas" solo during my days as a member of a singing waitress/musical theatre troupe and saw my favorite table one night dissolved in tears, only to find out the woman had lost both of her sons in Viet Nam. I switched to "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" the next week and to this day I can't sing the other one without sobbing) Menorah Girl Queen Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:49:48 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: Holiday Music] Just a quick note: on the way back from the 1st holiday party gig on Tues my friend threw in a tape and... OMG it was Sting doing Gabriel's Message *sigh* now I want to buy the tape. this morning I woke up to a kickin' "Carol of the Bells" involving synths and electric guitar (I don't think it was Manheim Steamroller, tho). And, before I left for work, they played a live recording of BNL + Sarah MacLaughlan doing "God Rest Ye Merry/We Three Kings," apparently recorded a couple of years ago. which only makes me want to hear _my_ fave Canadian Lads croonin' Xmas tunes all the more! - --Angie drowning in Outlook ;^) "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 15:00:53 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: The Onion I was reading The Onion yesterday and saw an article that made me think of Fruvous: http://www.theonion.com/onion3420/reclining_options.html Mike - -- "This tattoo won't come off. I thought it was the lick 'em/stick 'em kind. But I couldn't figure out what that machine was for. Or why I was in so much pain." -- Mary Prankseter Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 14:59:22 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: Happy Rushmas With the holiday season coming upon us, I wanted to make sure to be the first to wish everybody a merry Rushmas, which, according to http://rosecity.net/rush/birthday.html is January 12th. (Well, if Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ, wouldn't Rushmas, celebrate the birth of Rush?) Happy holidays! Mike - -- "This tattoo won't come off. I thought it was the lick 'em/stick 'em kind. But I couldn't figure out what that machine was for. Or why I was in so much pain." -- Mary Prankseter Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:16:57 -0500 From: Paul Bonphatti Subject: Bottom Line on the Bottom Line Anybody know what to expect at the Bottom Line? With six shows of fruvous, how different is the set list between shows? What about between the two shows on the same day? I'm trying to decide how much I can spend on it, and I want to get my Fruvous fill. Thanks - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 07:02:10 -0800 From: "Jason A. Reiser" Subject: Re: Sad Today (was:[Re: fruvous dreams (yet again)]]) In article , drea1@my-dejanews.com says... > [...] > Btw, does anyone know the name of the instrument Jian was playing during >that song? (That thing that looked like a keyboard) I think someone mentioned >it before but can't for the life of me remember what they said it >was..*shrug* I believe it was a melodica. - - Jason jreiser@ecoutez.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:26:12 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Holiday Music are you people totally forgetting about John Denver and the Muppets?!?!?!?! ~~kate christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat . . . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:28:44 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Gulf War - Part II taht doesn't compare to the republican sentiment aired on the nightly news last night--"let's turn it into a parking lot." interestingly, heres's an e-mail mother jones magazine got from howard zinn, author of "people's history of the united states" and professor of history at boston university. From the MoJones Wire internet mailing list: [Immediately after President Clinton announced the bombing of Iraq today, we called Boston University historian HOWARD ZINN and asked for his take. After a few minutes, he e-mailed this forceful accusation:] President Clinton has just told another lie, this time not about the relatively trivial matter of his sexual activities, but about matters of life and death. In explaining his decision to bomb Baghdad, he said that other nations besides Iraq have weapons of mass destruction, but Iraq alone has used them. He could only say this to a population deprived of history. The United States has supplied Turkey, Israel, and Indonesia with such weapons and they have used them against civilian populations. But the nation most guilty is our own. No nation in the world possesses greater weapons of mass destruction than we do, and none has used them more often, or with greater loss of civilian life. In Hiroshima hundreds of thousands died, in Korea and Vietnam millions died as a result of our use of such weapons. Our economic sanctions are also weapons of mass destruction, having resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Saddam Hussein may well have weapons of mass destruction, he may indeed be inclined to use them, but only the United States is actually using them, and at this very moment, people are dying in Iraq as a result. However evil Saddam Hussein is, whatever potential danger he may represent, he is not, as the president said tonight (telling another lie) a "clear and present danger" to the peace of the world. We are. And, as the president said, if there is a clear and present danger we must act against it. It is a time for protest. We are living in times of madness, when men in suits and ties, and yes, a woman secretary of state, can solemnly defend the use, in the present, of indiscriminate violence-they do not know what they are bombing!-against a tyrant who may use violence, in the future. The phrase "clear and present danger" has therefore lost its meaning. The phrase "weapons of mass destruction" too has lost its meaning when a nation which possesses more such weapons, and has used them more often, than any other, uses those words to justify the killing of civilians "to send a message." We who are offended by this should send our own message to our demented leaders. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:14:21 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Happy Rushmas Ambush Bug delighted us with: >With the holiday season coming upon us, I wanted to make sure to be the >first to wish everybody a merry Rushmas, which, according to >http://rosecity.net/rush/birthday.html is January 12th. And, of course, Rush Hashana for the Jews! *grin* Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net "The wonderful thing about Shakespeare is that when it's done well, it makes people feel smarter than they are. As opposed to dumber than they are. There is really no in-between." - Spencer Golub ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:29:56 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Gulf War - Part II "KatieWow" delighted us with: >taht doesn't compare to the republican sentiment aired on the nightly news >last night--"let's turn it into a parking lot." >However evil Saddam Hussein is, whatever potential danger he may >represent, he is not, as the president said tonight (telling another >lie) a "clear and present danger" to the peace of the world. We are. >And, as the president said, if there is a clear and present danger we >must act against it. It is a time for protest. Well, I'm not one to argue with Howard Zinn; but, as far as I heard on NPR (granted, they too are American media and thus not to be taken as absolute truth), life is going on [practically] as normal in Baghdad. I believe the figure I heard on civilian casualties is five - yes, five is a lot on one hand, but on the other this signals to me that the American missiles were *not* aimed at civilians. They were aimed (again, as the media tells us) at what are supposedly weapons storage sites. (The ethics of bombing someone else's weapons while we've got a LOT more of them isn't something I want to get into - I'm terribly uninformed to be making any kind of judgment there.) - -v Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net "The wonderful thing about Shakespeare is that when it's done well, it makes people feel smarter than they are. As opposed to dumber than they are. There is really no in-between." - Spencer Golub ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 18:18:21 GMT From: jsmooth69@aol.comblah (JSmooth69) Subject: Re: Holiday Music Now how could anyone forget the Christmas in the Stars album with suck wonderful hits as "What can you get a Wookiee for christmas (When he already owns a comb?)" and "Merry, Merry Christmas" What better way to celebrate christmas than with R2D2, C-3PO and a Wookiee. Jason "Spaceballs the Flame thrower!!!! The kids love this one." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:07:58 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: Moxy Chanukkah song. In article <19981217020031.19346.00000553@ng10.aol.com>, gordonlew@aol.com says... > When you are done with that try Gilligan's Island. I see Mike as the Professor. Aieee! You have no idea what kinds of associations you just made in my brain, since I've seen an X-rated parody of that show... k@ Will.Not.Go.There. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:21:06 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: Holiday Music] " album with suck [<-- *snort* was that just a typo? hahaha] wonderful hits as "What can you get a Wookiee for christmas" - -a gift certificate for Vidal Sasson ;^} - --Angie "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:20:16 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Sad Today Amanda votes: >>Drea (who is asking Santa for Bittersweet to be performed at FrüCon *hint* >Love Set Fire is higher on my list, but I could get behind Bittersweet %110. I'll vote for both of the above, and add Bed and Breakfast. Maybe they could do: a Mike-song set, a Murray-song set, a Jian-song set, and a Dave-song set. Okay, okay, only 3 sets and 4 lads, I know, but then there's the Con itself.... plenty of time for rarities when you think about it. :) - -- Lori, who needs to wrap gifts, not type. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:12:49 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: Holiday Music In article <75bbnd$c7v$1@winter.news.rcn.net>, kleahy@loyola.edu says... > are you people totally forgetting about John Denver and the Muppets?!?!?!?! > ~~kate > christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat . . . My sisters and I must have driven our parents batty insisting that that tape be played repeatedly on all those long holiday road trips. k@ "PIGGY pudding?" "No, no, FIGGY pudding. Made from figs!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:23:31 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: OT: Your ex-boyfriend's a... In article <19981217072606.16720.00000440@ng125.aol.com>, fruwench@aol.com says... > He is currently a career Army officer stationed in Germany... > This man was my first boyfriend when I was a freshman in college - young, > naieve, impresionable, stupid (me not him). For him I quit ROTC because he > disapproved... Um, so it was fine and dandy for *him* to go through ROTC or some other college-level military training to become an officer, but unacceptable for *you*? Congratulations on getting rid of him. k@ has been with her share of that type too ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:33:22 GMT From: Maige Subject: Re: Gulf War - Part II Vika Zafrin wrote: > Well, I'm not one to argue with Howard Zinn; but, as far as I heard on > NPR (granted, they too are American media and thus not to be taken as > absolute truth), life is going on [practically] as normal in Baghdad. What I've seen on CNN Live this afternoon confirms that "business as usual" is going on in Baghdad. However, to me, what is going on in and around that city is terrifying! Could you imagine being constantly surrounded by the sounds of explosions and aircraft and missiles? I only watched the footage for about 15 minutes and I felt sick to my stomach. And yet, I could see that traffic was still flowing; busses running and cars moving at what seemed at a normal pace. What strong ppl they must be to not allow their fear to run their lives...because I know that they must be afraid. As for only 5 civilians being killed. Well, for a "military action" I suppose that is a low number; But I watched bombs going off so close to the city...if not actually in city limits...and I can't imagine that there weren't ppl that were killed...civilians. During one of the press conferences it was noted that possibly one of the targets was Saddam's sister's home. I wonder how many bombs she had hiding in her basement? And would she be considered a civilian?...or part of the "clear and present danger"? Has anyone here seen "Wag the Dog"? Doesn't this situation kinda ring a bell there? Perhaps I am just way too uninformed...I have a tendency to lose track of what is going on in the world periodically when engrossed in my own affairs. Am I nieve? Is it possible that our president would start a war to take the pressure off of him in the media? And during the same press conference, it was also noted that the military had been prepared for a conflict to occur this December...what does that mean? How did they know? How do they orchestrate that kind of thing so precisely? I never heard a "time limit" given to Saddam for complying with the inspections of arms. Was there something I missed? - Maige - -- ************************************************* "Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... Blood -screaming- inside you to work it's will." "Lover's Walk" -- Spike BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER 11/24/1998AD ************************************************* ICQ Fru-fans List: http://www.bigfoot.com/~fruvous Contact me at: Fruvous@bigfoot.com ICQ# 8662607 kats@mail.microserve.net LadyMaige@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:12:46 GMT From: "Schwan, Phil" Subject: Gulf War - Part II Well, this one will probably get me flamed severely, but I've never been one to keep my opinion to myself... I apologize in advance to anyone I offend. Remember...these are my opinions based on what I know: I'll start by saying that I value human life, and that I truly feel for the citizens of Iraq. I am fully in support, however, of the decision made by my government yesterday. Why, you say? Glad you asked! This has been long overdue. Saddam Hussein is a master manipulator and a cunning political strategist. He has played games time and again, making and breaking numerous promises. He claims to be fighting for the Iraqi people, yet he continues to build palaces and rebuild his armed forces in secret while the sewage systems are still in shambles from the Gulf War and his people are starving. The sanctions were designed specifically to allow the Iraqi people to survive, but to hinder gov't spending on WMD and other aggressive means. Saddam's actions may have been debatable in the past, but this was a crystal clear sign of his deceit. He was told explicitly and in no uncertain terms what he was to do and what would happen if he didn't...and he agreed unconditionally. As seen by the results of the bombing, we are not aiming at civilians, we are continuing to cripple his military might and his to produce WMD. Any history professor who speaks of the atomic bomb as a creation by America to dominate the world should consider another line of work. No serious consideration was even given to the notion of atomic weapons until Einstein and several other scientists told FDR of just how close Germany was getting to developing their own. Those bombings ended the biggest war in history. Sanctions as a WMD? As I stated, they were designed to allow the Iraqi people to survive...they were meant to cripple the government into compliance. It is SADDAM who causes these people to suffer. Have you not heard of what happens when diplomats visit Iraq? Children are pulled out of school, given Iraqi flags, and line up along the streets to show support for Hussein. Visiting a classroom (on Iraqi Nat'l TV), he asked one little boy if he knew who he was. "Yes, you're the person on the TV my daddy spits at every time he sees." The boy and his family were found dead in their homes the next day. Needless to say, the tape never made it on air. I wish wholeheartedly for the suffering of the Iraqi citizens to stop and I believe that will never happen as long as Saddam is in power. So, that is why I support the measures my government is taking. They are long overdue and we've given him more than a fair chance. If anyone would like to debate this with me in private (email, etc.), I'd be more than happy to. Wrong or right, I love a good argument!!!:) Phil, in support of his President (despite his poor personal choices) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Dec 1998 19:53:40 GMT From: jsmooth69@aol.comblah (JSmooth69) Subject: Re: [Re: Holiday Music] " album with suck [<-- *snort* was that just a typo? hahaha]>> yeah, it was just a typo...my brain wasn't really working this morning. Jason "Say goodbye to your two best friends, and I don't mean your pals in the Winniebago." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:10:56 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: It finally happened!! I must must must share!! I had my very first random Früvous moment today! (A few months ago I was bemoaning my lack of such.) I went down to lunch at work with a friend, wearing my budgie jersey, and as we were getting on the elevator to go back up, a man exiting the elevator exlaims, "Moxy Früvous, Oh my god!" I just looked at him with this shocked expression and he walked around the corner and was gone. It took me several seconds to realize it couldn't be just a case of some silly man reading my shirt and calling it out, since the shirt has only Früvous on it...no Moxy. There's actually someone in my building who knows them! Of course I have no clue who he is...if I had gotten out of shock sooner I'd have run out of the elevator and followed him to say hi, but alas, I'll never know! (There are a ton of people in that darn building.) I went back to my desk and I was frantically gushing about my experience with this huge grin on my face. My friends were quite happy for me. (Or at least they were humouring me...I'm not going to quibble when it's for my benefit. :) ) I couldn't stop smiling the rest of the afternoon. Totally salvaged a horrendously bad day. Ok, I've shared....you can all nod your heads, say "that's nice dear," and shoo me away now. :) Andrea K. (not feeling alone in the cold barren city of Hartford anymore) "I was your fountain of youth and you were my mountain of truth. But, you have drunk me dry and I'm afraid of heights." - The Nields ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:10:24 GMT From: "Schwan, Phil" Subject: Re: Gulf War - Part II Maige wrote: > Has anyone here seen "Wag the Dog"? Doesn't this situation kinda ring >a bell there? Perhaps I am just way too uninformed...I have a tendency >to lose track of what is going on in the world periodically when >engrossed in my own affairs. Am I nieve? Is it possible that our >president would start a war to take the pressure off of him in the >media? This seems to be the Flavor-of-the-Month Conspiracy Theory. I'm not saying that it's not remotely possible. However, I seriously doubt that the President AND his entire panel of Security Advisors (including Republican William Cohen) would risk American lives to postpone an inevitable trial. I DO however find it quite possible that Saddam Hussein used the current situation to his advantage, not because he thought we would be too weak and preoccupied to strike, but because he knew Clinton's reaction would be viewed with ENORMOUS skepticism due to the timing. > And during the same press conference, it was also noted that the >military had been prepared for a conflict to occur this December...what >does that mean? How did they know? How do they orchestrate that kind >of thing so precisely? I never heard a "time limit" given to Saddam for >complying with the inspections of arms. Was there something I missed? They were already on alert from the fiasco 6 weeks ago. Everyone knew Saddam would play this game, but we had to give him one last chance to give more legitimacy to the job we should have done a long time ago. - -Phil, loving political debates:) ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #133 ********************************************