From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #124 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, December 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Happy Chanukah! [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: jist wondering [Juliette Lexington ] Re: Bottom Line shows [Krista ] Re: Holiday Magic [drea1@my-dejanews.com] Re: jist wondering [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Fruvous dream [Juliette Lexington ] Re: Indie Tape ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re:Re:groupies v. confectioners [Juliette Lexington ] Re: FruGifts for Fruvous? [Krista ] Re: Indie Tape ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Bottom Line shows ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: FruGifts for Fruvous? [nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (] Re: Indie Tape [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Indie Tape [Mulder4213@aol.com] Re: Indie Tape [Mulder4213@aol.com] Re:Indie tape [Mulder4213@aol.com] Re: Need to sell Something????? Try Auctioning it!! [kpfruhead@aol.com (K] Re: Need to sell Something????? Try Auctioning it!! [shazalinrea@juno.com] Heloise & Abelard [was My turn for Zero-Frutent posts - I need help!!!]] [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Bottom Line shows [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:23:11 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Happy Chanukah! On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:06:55 -0600 Chewbacca >At any rate, thank you and Merry Christmas to you Christian types. >We'll catch up with you at New Years. > >Arabel > spanx =+) Fruchild ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:11:07 GMT From: Juliette Lexington Subject: Re: jist wondering Ummm...I'm guessing you meant Virginian Fruheads, Fruchild. I guess I count as one of those, since I'm going to college in Virginia; however, I'm home (in Ohio) right now. Virgin Fruhead? Hmm...I'm not even going to go into that. :) - - Juliette == "...it's a hell of a responsibility to be yourself. It's much easier to be somebody else or nobody at all." - Sylvia Plath "The truth will set you free, but, first, it will piss you off." - Gloria Steinem _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:59:38 GMT From: Krista Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows Colleen Campbell wrote: > Hear, hear!! Beautifully said :-)! I bought "50 Eggs" last Saturday, and I haven't taken it out of my CD player yet. Fantastic stuff! ---Krista--- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:47:49 GMT From: drea1@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Holiday Magic *Gabriel's Message*. "The > angel Gabriel from Heaven came, his wings of drifted snow his eyes of > flame..." They could do some great stuff with it cause of the harmonies, > mostly a cappella with maybe a drum (they could get the guy from Great > Big Sea to play a bodhran or something). Gorgeous. Does anyone know the > song I'm talking about? I do, though the only version I've heard is Sting's version from 4(?) years ago. This would definitely be gorgeous a cappella, though I can't imagine a bodhran in there *shrug* I had another idea as well, though it's not really a carol..Can anyone else imagine the guys doing the Hallelujah Chorus? Maybe I'm just weird *g* Drea 2 more days till I'm back in Southern Ontario, 16 till NYE in Toronto!! *bounce* - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:54:41 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: jist wondering I WAS talking territory. Really? What college? If you say William and Mary I will Scream and drive to your dorm this very second (well maybe not =+)). Fruchild On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:11:07 GMT Juliette Lexington writes: > Ummm...I'm guessing you meant Virginian Fruheads, Fruchild. I >guess I count as one of those, since I'm going to college in >Virginia; >however, I'm home (in Ohio) right now. > Virgin Fruhead? Hmm...I'm not even going to go into that. :) > >- Juliette > > >== >"...it's a hell of a responsibility to be yourself. > It's much easier to be somebody else or nobody at all." > - Sylvia Plath > >"The truth will set you free, > but, first, it will piss you off." - Gloria Steinem > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:04:44 GMT From: Juliette Lexington Subject: Fruvous dream Well, Monique thought I should go ahead and post this wonky dream I had of Fruvous Saturday night. It started out pretty cool, but then (like most of my dreams) turned weird (why would I run from Fruvous?). Seau...it's a bucket. Here you go: I'm at this outdoors Fruvous concert and am standing near the stage. Mike and Murray are onstage, and they both take off their shirts; Murray's skin is this really dark peach colour, he has muscles and he has no chest hair. Then, Jian comes up to me and tells me something, but I don't understand him. Then, Murray, still shirtless, comes over to me and says that they (Fruvous) want me to do something during/for their new song. They all go onstage and start the new song. This woman starts chasing me; I run out this gate to the fence surrounding the concert area and end up back near the stage. The song ends, and the audience doesn't like the new song/where they had me be chased. For some reason, I get upset and run out of there; the Fruguys run after me. I start running up this road on a hill, but I don't get anywhere. Then, I will these big and beautiful black wings to appear (and they do), and I fly into the air. However, I still don't get anywhere and end up landing back on the ground; the Fruguys then "catch" me. Then, I woke up. Well, I hope you enjoyed that. Happy Winter Solstice/Chanukkah/Christmas/Kwanzaa to all!!! Frulove and happiness, Juliette p.s. Matt: Yes, I did see that episode of 'Dr. Katz;' it was hilarious! p.p.s. Kate: if you ever need help with Latin, let me know. I absolutely adore my Latin class. == "Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? (Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?)" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:02:28 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Indie Tape Colleen Campbell wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:32:53 GMT, vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) wrote: > >Show me an artist who really makes such a request, then we'll talk. > >:) > > Cat Stevens. (Can't remember what he changed his name to.) Le > Significante Othyr and I were talking about this last night, how the > artist wished he could take back everything he said, after he > converted to Islam. He doesn't license reissues of his work; the only > stuff out there is what is already owned by the record company. Would > you buy his work now--or listen to it--knowing that the artist himself > is opposed to your doing so? Does it show more respect for the artist > to value his output or his current viewpoint? Odd situation. Oh wow. Great example cee! I am in awe. I hadn't even thought of him! > If Fruvous seriously asked me to erase my indie tape--well, ouch. If > they were offended by their work at the time, morally opposed to it in > some way (they regreted the "blow me" reference in the background that > everyone else seems to be able to hear that I can't, fer example), > then I would probably think about it a long time and regretfully > dispose of the work. If they were morally offended by it, but you were not you would dispose of it? That should then mean that you WOULD trash all your Cat Stevens records since hs is now morally opposed to his previous position. Frankly I don't see why you would follow such a request from people who do not share your moral viewpoint. I mean if the frufour became Extreme Evangelical Christians, and repudiated all their work as demonspawn would you feel compelled to destroy your copies? I know I wouldn't. I would have to share their moral position to even consider such an act, and even then I would not do it, because I have a nearly religious reverence for media. I don't believe any creative work should ever be destroyed. Knowledge lost is lives wasted. All works should be preserved for posterity. Who knows when some thought or idea or expression that someone once found objectionable will prove useful. And if you do not preserve the truly obscene for study how can you avoid future repetitions of catastrophe. (I'm thinking of works like Mein Kampf and Triumph of The Will.) These are important works that people should see, distasteful as they may be. Besides, just because I purchase the work of an artist, does that mean must spend the rest of my life monitoring his or her opinion of the work? I feel that if I buy a work of art it is MINE dagnabit! I don't need anyone's permission to hang it on my wall or put it in my CD player. This is the deal that I believe an artist makes when they sell their work. If you cannot bare to lose control of your work (or of a copy of it in the case of mass produced art) then you should not sell your work at all. > I suppose I should have read the rest of the responses to this thread > before contributing, but I got so excited about being home and having > enough time to read and respond, period, that I just jumped in. (Just > to make you happy, chad. :) Nah, you are right on target here. Don't hesitate! A.J. - -- Epitaph on a dead blues singer's gravestone: "I didn't wake up this morning . . ." _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:14:54 GMT From: Juliette Lexington Subject: Re:Re:groupies v. confectioners > > >On the other hand... remember the dress that got >signed at the end of the '96 tour? The little black >dress I was wearing that I had *everyone* sign, >band and fellow followers alike? I wore it to a dance >last night...that one's always fun to explain... Heh...reminds me of when I had the Fruguys (lol...I can't believe I typed "Fruguts" at first!) sign the Fruvous definition T-shirt I bought at the King of Prussia concert (last summer; my second concert, the first one being the Fruvous concert at the Birchmere in Virginia that same summer). When I later wore the shirt, I noticed that Jian's signature was in a very *interesting* place (just below the Fruvous logo). I have fun explaining that one, especially since Jian wrote "Thank you" along with his signature. :D - --- Juliette _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:18:18 GMT From: Krista Subject: Re: FruGifts for Fruvous? Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > Fruheads in Ottawa, the Mennonite Church there (off Main Street) > has a two-week TTV sale each winter -- it may be over now, but you > could call and check it out! that's where I first heard of this organization. Oh, yeah, good ol' OMC :-). I used to go to that church before I moved out West! I have happy childhood memories of sitting in the church basement, stringing price tags onto the Christmas ornaments and singing carols with the other volunteers. Wow, the world *is* small, after all :-)! Lori, how did you first hear of our Christmas sales? Did you have a friend in the congregation who invited you? We might know some of the same people... ---Krista--- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:35:22 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Indie Tape kevin@mail.research-inc.com wrote: > > >>No used book > >>stores? No used record stores? > > > >Both are good for the average not-rich consumer, but ultimately do > >hurt the artists, yes. > I do however agree that if the cd is in print, then buying it from a used > cd store hurts the artist. Really? How? They've been paid. The existence of used record stores does not seem to have dried up the market for new cds. Where is the harm? The notion that an artist is hurt by the sale of used cds seems to me to be as absurd as the notion that General Motors is hurt by the sale of used cars. Should they get a percentage of each of their cars that is resold? After all they did go through the work of creating the design from scratch. Those designs are copyrighted, and many of the mechanisms in the car are patented. Shouldn't they be entitled to a portion of the proceeds of that car since the car is the fruit of their labor? I'd say no. A.J. - -- Epitaph on a dead blues singer's gravestone: "I didn't wake up this morning . . ." _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:21:24 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows Colleen Campbell wrote: > Be ready to be offended, challenged, startled, moved, bewildered, > enlightened, and/or amused to no end. Enjoy. To summarize what cee said using the patented D. Blando distillation system: DanBern gud. Me sleep now. :) > (Okay, so I can gush forever about him. Quite frankly, he's the > single most talented male songwriter I know of. Altogether, Fruvous > have him beat out; but by himself, he has more raw talent there than > *anyone.* And he really is a puppy dog, underneath that stage > persona.) Colleen, we MUST do a Dan Bern show together some! I don't know anyone around here who likes him that much but me! > ceecee, blissing especially because she gotted to give 'im > massage--and better yet, her new plaything, myofascial release work; > beware, all ye around me, lest you become guinea pigs. . . /me jumps up and down wildly waving his arms Oh me me me! Pick me! I'll be a guinea pig! Me! A.J. - -- Epitaph on a dead blues singer's gravestone: "I didn't wake up this morning . . ." _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:07:51 GMT From: nicole.the.wonder.nerd.is@ana.ng.at.tmbg.org (Nicole the Wonder Nerd) Subject: Re: FruGifts for Fruvous? On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:45:00 GMT, someone looking suspiciously like Srm9988n@aol.com whispered these words: >Krista-Dawn graced us with: > >> TTV (formally Global Village Crafts) is a >> non-profit organization that sells crafts, instruments, etc., made by >> people in 3rd world countries and then - here's the good part - gives >> the craftmaker a fair wage for his/her work. >TTV in its many guises is one of my favorite places in the world. In >addition to my shameless plug on this thread -- and why should I be ashamed >of such a good cause anyway? -- there's a link on my page to the TTV >website, which currently has no merch pix but complete store listings > -- about 120 across the US and Canada. Find one near you and check >it out! It's a wonderful way to beat the capitalistic, profit-oriented >holiday merchandising schtick and make a happy holiday for your near and dear >with truly unique gifts, as well as truly demonstrating care, concern, and >constructive help for those far less fortunate than us North Americans. Hey everyone Let me preface this with a blanket "I wuv you all, and I don't usually like playing devil's advocate". Fair trade is a wonderful cause. We have two fair trade shops along the lines of 10K Villages here in Davis (De Colores Trading Co. and Tibet/Nepal, everyone in Davis (anyone??) check 'em out), and I got a significant fraction of my Christmas gifts there this year. So I checked out the TTV website Lori pointed to, and I was doing fine until I got to: >Ten Thousand Villages respects the religious teachings of people of other >religions when those teachings mirror Christian teachings. and similar statements. To what extent are these guys a non-profit artists' co-operative, and to what extent are they latter-day economic missionaries ("We'll buy your products if you're Christian")? I don't doubt that they're genuinely concerned about helping artisans earn a living wage, but why attach the Christianity strings? Forgive me if I misinterpreted the page, but I *would* like to know--I am not a Christian, and I have serious qualms about supporting an organization that professes not to respect religions other than Christianity. - --nicole twn - -- "It's up to you now if you sink or swim--just keep the faith that your ship will come in!"--Great Big Sea Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn Reply-to address is modified to escape the spammers... sorry for the inconvenience. spam trap: postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost root@localhost ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:10:34 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Indie Tape As to the Christian thing, I'm not sure how likely that would be (the outcome not the action). What I mean is I would want to reflect on how far I've come and know what I am capable of when not focused on Christ. Anyway, changing lifestyle does not allow you to deny your past. I know this wasn't your point but I thought I just make you aware from a Christian aspect =+) Fruchild >If they were morally offended by it, but you were not you would >dispose of >it? That should then mean that you WOULD trash all your Cat Stevens >records >since hs is now morally opposed to his previous position. Frankly I >don't >see why you would follow such a request from people who do not share >your >moral viewpoint. I mean if the frufour became Extreme Evangelical >Christians, and repudiated all their work as demonspawn would you >feel >compelled to destroy your copies? I know I wouldn't. I would have >to >share their moral position to even consider such an act, and even then >I >would not do it, because I have a nearly religious reverence for >media. > >I don't believe any creative work should ever be destroyed. Knowledge >lost >is lives wasted. All works should be preserved for posterity. Who >knows >when some thought or idea or expression that someone once found >objectionable will prove useful. And if you do not preserve the >truly >obscene for study how can you avoid future repetitions of catastrophe. > >(I'm thinking of works like Mein Kampf and Triumph of The Will.) >These are >important works that people should see, distasteful as they may be. > >Besides, just because I purchase the work of an artist, does that mean >must >spend the rest of my life monitoring his or her opinion of the work? >I >feel that if I buy a work of art it is MINE dagnabit! I don't need >anyone's permission to hang it on my wall or put it in my CD player. >This >is the deal that I believe an artist makes when they sell their work. >If >you cannot bare to lose control of your work (or of a copy of it in >the >case of mass produced art) then you should not sell your work at all. > > > >> I suppose I should have read the rest of the responses to this >thread >> before contributing, but I got so excited about being home and >having >> enough time to read and respond, period, that I just jumped in. >(Just >> to make you happy, chad. :) > >Nah, you are right on target here. Don't hesitate! > >A.J. >-- >Epitaph on a dead blues singer's gravestone: >"I didn't wake up this morning . . ." > _____ _ > / ____(_) >| | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ >| | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ >| |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | > \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:48:31 GMT From: Mulder4213@aol.com Subject: Re: Indie Tape Again, I'd have to agree with AJ. I mean, it's not as if these artists are going to go bankrupt from the loss of a few cd sales. I mean, if and artist sells, say, 5,000 cds at the standard $17-$18 apiece, that's still a lot of dough! They got the $ for the original sale of the cd, so all's well there. Personally, I wouldn't have half of my music collection (or my book collection, for that matter) if it weren't for used music/bookstores. capitalist dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:40:17 GMT From: Mulder4213@aol.com Subject: Re: Indie Tape In a message dated 12/14/98 7:04:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, vika@ibm.net writes: > Selling it is fine. Selling it for much more than its original value, > WHEN/IF the artist is still alive, is something I would never do. I > me mine. Not talking about anybody but me. YOU can do whatever you > want with the hideous painting. > > (Kudos to whoever got the musical reference in that paragraph.) :) I got it! Great song, from my fave Beatles album. dan, dan, the beatles man ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:02:48 GMT From: Mulder4213@aol.com Subject: Re:Indie tape AJ sez: > I have a question for you? If the band started going around saying "You > know the indie tape is shit. We weren't any good back then. We'd prefer > to be known by our current talents, so everyone please erase your indie > tapes" What would you do? Bare in mind that we are not talking about a > bootleg that the band generously allowed you to record, we are talking > about a commercially released tape that you purchased legitimately and paid > MONEY for, A tape that you OWN. > > Everybody, straw poll, what would you do in the above situation? I for one > would keep MY tape. I don't see that the bands wishes would come into that > situation. Personally, I have to agree with the viewpoint that art is a commodity. I look at it this way: if the artist were to have complete control over where his or her art is sold, not only would there be no used bookstores and such, there'd be no bookstores, period. There's no conceivable way that an author can keep track of where very single copy of his or her book went. And what about television? That would make video tapes out of the question. VCRs would be, too, since taping off of tv would be wrong. There's just too much in our society that hinges on the capitalistic view of art as a commodity to support a belief that art should go only where the artist wishes it. And if I had a copy of Indie, and the lads asked everyone to erase their copies, I would in no way, shape, or form comply with their wishes in this matter. It would have been something that I myself purchased, and thus it would be mine to do with as I saw fit. That's my two bits. dan--watcher of the skies ------------------------------ Date: 15 Dec 1998 02:07:37 GMT From: kpfruhead@aol.com (KPFruhead) Subject: Re: Need to sell Something????? Try Auctioning it!! Oh dear... what interesting timing for this particular header... /me runs and hides in a corner :) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:05:46 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Need to sell Something????? Try Auctioning it!! tehe Fruchild On 15 Dec 1998 02:07:37 GMT kpfruhead@aol.com (KPFruhead) writes: >Oh dear... what interesting timing for this particular header... > >/me runs and hides in a corner :) > >Ken > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:48:44 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Heloise & Abelard [was My turn for Zero-Frutent posts - I need help!!!]] nicole, thank you so much for pointing me in the right direction. Using the names Heloise and Abelard I checked the Internet Movie Database (Frü reference, in the "about the band" page of FDC IMDb is who lists Dave's acting history). The name of the story that matches the description and lead characters is: (Plot Summary for Stealing Heaven (1988) Abelard, a respected philosopher and teacher in 12th-century Paris, is hired to tutor the intelligent and beautiful Heloise. They soon fall in love, but must hide their affection because Abelard is sworn to celibacy.) *directly copied from IMDb. I was mistaken, the actress that played Heloise was Kim Thomson, not Uma Thurman (hey, it's been like... an age since I've seen it!). Derek de Lint plays Abelard, and Denholm Elliott plays Fulbert. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't D. Elliott the one who played the scatterbrained curator in the Indiana Jones movies... and was the butler in Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd? Thanks again for the help nicole! I'm running to Blockbuster this weekend to see if they have it, and if its as good as I remember it. - --Angie, a years long curiosity now answered. PS: Stealing heaven is credited as a Yugoslavian film! "Everyone should be scared of the Bald Man." - Dave Matheson, 12/3 ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:36:04 GMT From: Juliette Lexington Subject: Re: Fruvous dream > With their shirts still off?=+) > > > Fruchild If only I could remember, Fruchild!!! :) - -Juliette _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 03:11:59 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: Bottom Line shows On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:39:18 GMT, ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell) wrote: > >ceecee, blissing especially because she gotted to give 'im >massage--and better yet, her new plaything, myofascial release work; >beware, all ye around me, lest you become guinea pigs. . . A sad Andrea-life observation. I process claims for this all the time...it's just weird to see it here. :) Andrea K. "I was your fountain of youth and you were my mountain of truth. But, you have drunk me dry and I'm afraid of heights." - The Nields ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #124 ********************************************