From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #74 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Wednesday, December 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Attn: Danya Manning fans [Krista ] Re: More Important Stuff (i.e. Hockey) ["KatieWow" ] Belief is not necessarily by some book . . . (but this post could qualify as one--LONG) ["KatieWow" ] Re:Feeling Old [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Feeling old [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: inquisitions [vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin)] Re:coupla things [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Re: Feeling old [Lynne Fisher ] Re: Feeling Old [michael@janus.oit.umass.edu (Michael Kieras)] Hockey [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] New Fru : D [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Ithaca live concert tape? [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] Friday Clinton show tix needed [brief] ["Novac" ] re: a coupla things [Srm9988n@aol.com] RE: Feeling old [aditufru@my-dejanews.com] Re: Inquisitions [McCown ] Re: non-French-speaking-but-Spanish-speaking-non-Christian Fruheads [lesy] Re: Fruvous en Espanol??? [Chad Schrock ] A Real Spanish Inquisition (was Re: inquisitions [Chad Schrock ] Re: Feeling Old [Chad Schrock ] RE:Feeling Old [shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:28:31 GMT From: Krista Subject: Attn: Danya Manning fans For those who are interested: This Saturday at 4:00 on DNTO (CBC Radio 1) they are playing Danya Manning recorded live in Ottawa (I forget when). You can go to www.cbc.ca for more info on this. I just thought some of you might like to know... ---Krista--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 18:09:45 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: More Important Stuff (i.e. Hockey) YAY YAY!!! most excellent use of hockey analogy!!! as a looooong-time flyers/maple leafs fan (god, remember that old flyers front line?), i get very upset when listening to the band bust on philly--but then again, as a fan of both of those teams, i'm certainly fodder for abuse myself :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 18:01:23 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Belief is not necessarily by some book . . . (but this post could qualify as one--LONG) Well, I wasn't going to get into this thread as I find religion to be one of the most important and intimate parts of my life, and not (please, no offense to _anyone_--you guys are the best) not something I'd normally discuss in a forum like a newsgroup, but with the way this thread has been going, I thought I'd add my insight. I'm only nineteen, but I'm currently in my 13th year of Catholic (and first year of Jesuit) education. While most of the peers I've encountered in those years traditionally hated Catholic eduation, I loved it (and continue to love it). I am Roman Catholic, and all three Catholic schools I have been in have been loving, supportive communities that fostered my growth academically, personally, and spiritually. Believe it or not, I've never felt as though I were being bullied by anyone's beliefs; the only pressuring I feel I have ever encountered has been associated more with an urging to be a good person and live the best life possible rather than to adhere to some Catholic standard. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that though I am Catholic and embrace my Catholic identity, I don't find that that is necessarily where I draw faith from, though it is where I find support for my beliefs. It was in my Catholic high school that I was introduced to Buddhism, mysticism, Sufism, and the Kabballah, four religious traditions I have come to draw enormous inspiration and comfort from. These are certainly not traditional Catholic means of spiritual development, but I was encouraged by religious and lay people alike to actively pursue and embrace these as a means of developing my own views and beliefs and faith. My favorite teacher ever was a religious brother who taught me Hebrew and Christian Scripture (the Bible) in such a way that I looked to it less as a manual telling me what I should be doing with my life coupled with a bunch of stories about people who didn't follow the rules and the guy who came and set them all straight, and more as a true connection between God and myself and the story of a people who embraced God and remained true to their faith despite horrendous consequences. It's a shame that people are scared away from the Bible by those who twist it's words to give weight to their own warped decisions and arguments. Read correctly, it is _extremely_ powerful and can be a very useful personal tool. So what do I consider myself? Well, I shy from calling myself Christian, not because I reject it. Christian means "Christ-like," and to me that doesn't suggest something that I _am_ as much as something that I'm aiming for. In other words, I'm looking forward to the day when I feel comfortable calling myself a Christian. In my Jesuit school, emphasis is taken away from the ritual practices of Catholicism (mass, sacraments, etc) and placed upon more practical demonstations of faith like service and ethics. This is just the kind of faith action that I have always embraced and gotten more out of than any mass I have ever attended. I also study Zen and the Christian Mystics, and the Kabballah and some Sufism, all traditions focused more on contemplation than anything else. I've found that a combination of the Jesuit community I live in and personal contemplation have provided me with a fantastic medium for spiritual development. What I'm trying to say is that I don't think that any book or priest or tablet handed down with a bolt of lightning on a mountain _really_ tells anyone what they believe. Their heart does. Religious people and books and laws are methods of helping someone attain the best life possible--they aren't authorities which give absolute commands. In fact, some people can get along perfectly fine spiritually without _any_ of them. It's just a matter of developing a personal faith commitment and figuring out what fosters it. For some, this is organized religion; for others (like me) organization is just a part of it. Sorry I couldn't be more brief, but I did have to contribute :). Back into my hobbit hole now . . . :). ~~Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:46:57 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: Ithaca live concert tape? >The guys didn't want anyone taping at the Ithaca show....... >I was going to be, but at the last minute, they decided that they'd be much >more comfortable playing all their new songs if they weren't under the added >pressure of being taped. damn damn damn..... :) they better dis NYC again for me then!!!!! (like that's a problem heeheehee!) - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:56:18 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re:Feeling Old When I was 13 (was it that long ago?) I watched both 30-something and my so-called life. To my knowledge these have both been canceled. This topic was just a big ol' tease!!! =+) Mindy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:57:36 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Feeling old Guys,please don't feel old!!! First of all, you are yet young (this coming from a sixteen year old). Secondly, you brind expirience and wisdom to the group and we need you. Being diverse is what gives us different opinions and we get to see issues from the other side. Trust me, you are very appriciated!!!! And by the by guys (completely off topic) I feel so sad =.+(. I only speak German... and not very well at that!!! Hugs and Kisses Mindy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:54:37 GMT From: vika@ibm.net (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: inquisitions Josh Drury delighted us with: >> >Fruvous content: Isabel Allende was the daughter of Salvador Allende, >> >The democratically elected socialist leader who was ousted in a coup >> >and replaced by Pinochet, mentioned in Fruvous's "The Kids' Song". And speaking of which... Yes, I know I'm going off-topic, but this *is* vaguely Fruvous-related, and is an issue I personally am beginning to acquire a strong interest in. What do you guys thinking of the British government considering granting Pinochet immunity from being extradited and/or persecuted on the grounds of his having allegedly commited genocide? And - a question to those who know more than I - what *is* the relationship between The UK and Chile? Why does the British government have a say in this at all? Or is this a UN thing? Or what? Thoughts? Vika Zafrin vika@ibm.net Vika_Zafrin@Brown.edu "Lover holds you when others go, covers you with another soul, stands behind you when you stand alone and you don't explain..." -Patty Larkin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:57:42 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re:coupla things On Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:44:43 GMT Angie Armstrong writes: >re: andi's comments: > > (hi folks, >I've been following this thread and I really don't understand why >religion has >anything to do with this newsgroup or fruvous music in general if the >Christians have a problem with other peoplle's religions-tough it's >neither >thier right nor responiblity to police the ng or the fanbase for >acceptable >forms of worship. the group that i go to concerts with includes >muslims,pagans >,christians,jews,shaolin and even a few atheists no one cares! if you >feel the need to convert people by means other than your example >please don't >do it here i'm all for free discussion but no one should be made to >they are >not welcome on this ng (or anywhere else,for that matter!) because >they have a >different view of God - just my two cents folks- andi) > It is because of me that this started and Im sorry if it offended you, but who was trying to convert someone? The only thing I read about converstion is that people shouldnt be in your face about it....Just a Q Mindy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 23:40:21 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: Feeling old >>There were a lot of college students there and >>watching them and listening to them, I tell you I feel posotively >>ancient and I'm only 31. >>So tell me do any of you other older fans ever feel that way? Hmm.. FEELING old? To me age is a number, I am older than most of my friends, associates even older than my boss. I mostly try to act my shoe size, makes life a bit more fun. Besides I spend all of my days dealing with college students, that helps keep a person young, except of course when the entering "new students" birthdates are 79 and 80, and I remember those times clearly. It's kinda like the silly mixed(used to be album) CD music collections that come on TV. That was a transitional point, for me, when I recognized most of the songs.... I remember when my mom used to get all excited about the "oldies", now -like- the 80's are almost oldies!! Anyway, the point of the capitolized "feelings" is... do what you can to not feel old, try not to make it an issue, keep going to **fruvous** concerts and playing with kids and at playgrounds, do handstands, cartwheels, splits (ouch!)... Enjoy every minute, don't waste it on some silly "feeling". ( i kinda thought, if I were "feeling" sad, what would I do... fortunately most of us have the ability to manipulate our feelings! woohoo!!! If my pep talk hasn't worked just keep repeating to yourself "Im not old, "I'm not old!" until you believe it) - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: 2 Dec 1998 18:24:54 -0500 From: michael@janus.oit.umass.edu (Michael Kieras) Subject: Re: Feeling Old Kelly MacDougal (puggles@mindspring.com) wrote: : There are times when I feel ever so old. Last night at Ithaca was : defintely one of them. There were a lot of college students there and : watching them and listening to them, I tell you I feel posotively : ancient and I'm only 31. When the Lads played Cheek to Cheek my : husband and I were singing along but I couldn't help but wonder if we : were the only two in the room who knew who Freerick Austerlitz was (he : once danced to the song you know) and knew the words. One young lady : next to us said she knew the words sot that helped a little. So tell : me do any of you other older fans ever feel that way? It kind of varies. I'm 33, which I don't exactly consider old, but a lot of the shows have a younger crowd, and I feel a little old then. On the other hand, at the two Iron Horse shows this past Halloween, there seemed to be a wider variety in ages, and the crowd as a whole seemed a bit older than usual. That might have just been my perception. My age doesn't make me feel out of place at the concerts. I tend to be a little more reserved than most, which makes me feel a little out of place there, sometimes, but age hasn't been an issue. BTW, I have no idea who Freerick Austerlitz is. - -- Michael Kieras ------------------------------------------------- michael@oit.umass.edu http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~michael/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:22:48 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Hockey Okay, I dont watch/do ANY sports regularly so I wouldnt know teams or anything, but I must say...Hockey is the best!!! It is about the only sport that I can do, and I believe I do it well. I got one of my nick names in fifth grade cause of it. I got a lil too into the face off and broke the hockey stick. From then on my gym teacher called me steriods. tehe =+) Mindy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:22:26 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: New Fru : D Welcome Jess! Wow, those Smithies preach the Gospel with fervor and success, don't they?? Congrats on your first convert, and glad to have you on this fine ng. - -- Lori ******************************* "And when I go to sleep at night I hear someone else's song, sung by some Canadians and thousands sing along. And everyone is dancing but I don't know the words, mystery and chimera and a million flying birds" -- the Nields "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming." - -- Forest for the Trees "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" Visit Lori's strange and wonderful world! http://members.aol.com/srm9988n/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:34:58 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: Re: Ithaca live concert tape? >>The guys didn't want anyone taping at the Ithaca show....... >>I was going to be, but at the last minute, they decided that they'd >be much >>more comfortable playing all their new songs if they weren't under >the added >>pressure of being taped. > *sigh* and none of my well personal friends went due to classes! I will never hear this NY jam or the first time these songs were given birth to. Well I hope thos of you who went loved it!!! By the by, that Thanxgiving thingie; its long and I find it boring (maybe cause I wrote it) If you guys still want it Ill write it in bits. Trus me youll appriciate this decision. Another by the by, you guys should check out Dar Williams. Very talented female singer!!! Much Love Mindy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:25:51 -0500 From: "Novac" Subject: Friday Clinton show tix needed [brief] Needed: 1 Ticket to Friday show @ Clinton Willing to pay: Ticket cost, plus a couple bucks more [American!] Contact: Novac, scottj@coxsyracuse.com before 5pm Friday (along with info on where/how to obtain the ticket) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 01:07:20 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: re: a coupla things Angie summed it up nicely after Eve kicked in about twenty very useful cents worth: >I'm sorry if this thread (and my perpetuation of it) offended you, I've been >in an odd babbly mood today and perhaps took it too far. But Andi had a point, especially being new to the ng (at least I haven't seen her posting before -- welcome Andi!) Lots of people really are obnoxious, competitive, and holier-than-thou about their religious affiliation, and all that pomposity can pollute a discussion. She was afraid it was happening here, is all. I just kicked into this thread because... (because I never met a thread I didn't like, some of you must think) ...no, that's not it, because I was relieved at an open, nonjudgmental discussion. We were all able to come out with our personal beliefs, and that was cool, and I think we all said or implied that we *weren't* being judgmental or evangelistic about it. I really think the mantra of this group is: "What makes a person so poisonous righteous That he'd think less of anyone who just disagreed?" I know it's mine. And Mindy, I'm glad things are working out better for you with your Mom. Maybe if you show her this whole thread she'll understand. - -- Lori "That's me in the corner That's me in the spotlight Losin' my religion..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 01:32:53 GMT From: aditufru@my-dejanews.com Subject: RE: Feeling old Ok, this coming from one of the "younger crowd" I guess. I really think that part of the Fruvous magic is that there are no "age restrictions". I think it's wonderful that their music is so powerful that it brings people of all ages, genders, race, religions....etc...together for, if nothing else, then the common love of music. There are so many "mainsteam" bands today that are directed toward a certain group...whether it be "teeny-bobbers" or whatever...but not until i started going to fru shows did I see such a diverstiy in age....which i great!!! I think back to Harro East. I was there and so was my lil' brother with my dad, who saw a guy about his age from our old neighborhood. Standing next to me were two ladies who looked like they could have been my grandmothers, having the time of their lives. If anything, I feel like the "youngin" with the group of people i tend to hang out with at shows. To bring this home, IMHO I don't think people should feel "old" at a show. To like the same music as someone 1/2 your age or twice your age is something to be proud of. It means that the age barriar that so many people have put up (parents liking Sanatra while the kiddies gush over the Backstreet Boys) is breaking down and unting people together through music. ok, enough babbling. If you read this to the end without a question mark popping up above your head....congrats my 2 cents Amy "Alright. Who Fruvoused the cat?" ~Mike Ford - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 01:37:41 GMT From: McCown Subject: Re: Inquisitions Hi everybody! Can I add my two cents here concerning religion? I was raised Episcopalian (but don't go to church--I used to), I've been going to Catholic school for five years, so my background is primarily Christian, but growing up on my house, I've been exposed to a lot of religions because my dad goes through phases of being interested in stuff. But like a whole bunch of people said, I'm sort of trying to find beliefs that fit who I am, and I'm not necessarily going to find this in organized religion. Pretty much all religions have things to say that I believe and agree with. Essentially, they all say that love is the answer, and that is the main thing that I think is important. And I totally agreed with what Angie said about religion being found everywhere and in your experiences, not just in a building. I go to the King of Prussia concerts in the summer every week (Fruvous played there this summer, but I guess most of you were there...), and I can just remember a few evenings, lying there on an absolutely gorgeous day, looking up at a beautiful blue sky, listening to music I love, surrounded by some of the nicest people in the world (everyone who goes to those things seems to be nice). It's just this feeling that you can't really describe, but I'd say that's my idea of religion. I don't think that, personally, I'm going to find religion by going to mass or something like that, but I might find it by meeting people (like you guys) and listening to them, by reading...everything, by listening to music that makes me feel something (which not all music does...if it doesn't make me feel something, I don't listen to it), and by appreciating and paying attention to the world around me. I think it's so cool that we are discussing this, because I think you all have really great ideas, and I'm very sorry if I am rambling, but I sort of got into it. I just wanted to share this quote from Jeff Buckley that I found a while ago, but I think it has to do with this topic, and since this is a music ng, it's pretty relevant: "I don't have any allegiance to an organized religion; I have an allegiance to the gifts that I find for myself in those religions... I'd rather be non-denominational, except for music. I prefer to learn everything through music. If you want divinity, the music in every human being and their love for music is pretty much it. It's the big indication of their spirituality and their ability to love and make love, or feel pain or joy, and really manifest it, really be real." Okay, I'm stopping now. I promise. love Lizzie ------------------------------ Date: 03 Dec 1998 02:26:38 GMT From: lesystemed@aol.com (LeSystemeD) Subject: Re: non-French-speaking-but-Spanish-speaking-non-Christian Fruheads In article <6a3245e7.36659687@aol.com>, Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: >And to Angie and Eve and Kelly and all other agnostic, animist, Muslim, >Jewish, Wiccan, Hindu, Rasta, or nonspecified Fruids -- When I first was seeing the woman who is now my wife, she remarked that she was probably a druid, because druids worshipped trees and from trees they make books. I think I had no chance after that. Yours in non-sequitur, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:18:55 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Fruvous en Espanol??? caroline wrote: > and a valiant try it was. you can translate frulyrics for us > anytime. ;) > it's better than my rusty attempt at conjugation above. i know > it's probably horrible, but i can certainly use practice if > anyone would like to *try* to speak to me. :) UGH!!! Bad memories from high school here! Anyway, before I was confirmed into the Church of Frü[1], I went to Germany last September. I picked up a wee-bit of German. However, I found myself translating what I wanted to say from English into Spanish. Of course, the Germans and Austrians spoke English better than I speak Spanish. :) [1] - That's all the Frücontent you're going to get in this post. - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:10:10 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: A Real Spanish Inquisition (was Re: inquisitions sort of. Vika Zafrin wrote: > Yes, I know I'm going off-topic, but this *is* vaguely > Fruvous-related, and is an issue I personally am beginning to > acquire a strong interest in. > > What do you guys thinking of the British government considering > granting Pinochet immunity from being extradited and/or persecuted > on the grounds of his having allegedly commited genocide? Pinochet is a "Sentaor for Life" in Chile, which, apparently, means that he has some sort of diplomatic immunity. At least in Chile. Several Spanish judges have been investigating Pinochet for murdering Spanish citizens during his reign. The judges issued an arrest warrant/extradition request and then dropped it on the British gov't. The London Metropolitian Police served Pinochet with the warrant and arrested him in a London hospital. Read below for what happened after that. The British are, more or less, just caught in the middle of a fight between the Spanish and Chileans. > And - a question to those who know more than I - what *is* > the relationship between The UK and Chile? About the same as our realtionship with Chile. (Of course the British didn't actively support the Pinochet regeme and all that. Pay very close attention to the Spanish case if he is extradited to Spain. A whole bunch of *very* embarrassing inconvenient facts about US involvement will most likely be introduced as evidence by the Spainards.) > Why does the British government have a say in this at all? > Or is this a UN thing? Or what? Pinochet was in the UK for surgury on his back. The Spanish gov't served an extradition request on the British gov't while he was in the UK. This would be roughly the same as the Mexicans arresting Newt Gingrich (while he was in Mexico) for something he did to Canadians while he was in office. Pinochet said that he had diplomatic immunity. The Spanish disagreed. The case has been winding its way through the British legal system, until last week when the Law Court[1] (part of the House of Lords and pretty much like our Supreme Court) ruled that Pinochet did not have immunity and he could be extradited to Spain. However, the British Home Secretary has the final say. He has until sometime next week, I believe, to decide. Yesterday, Pinochet was "politely asked to leave" the hospital that he had been staying in. (aka: thrown out) He is now staying at an exclusive estate in Surry. (In the South of England.) He is actually under house arrest. He can not leave the UK until this whole mess is straightened out. [1] - Help me out here, Richard... > Thoughts? It is a ton more interesting and actually about something legitamate, as compared to the festering pox that is going on DC right now. - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 22:00:08 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Ithaca Set List Kelly MacDougal wrote: > If you ever knew (could have been If only you knew, I had > trouble hearing this one) Does anyone else get the feeling that this will be on the next album? (Especially after reading Dan's review....) 8>< ---- snip snip----- 8>< > ----------------------------- > O Canada !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll say it again, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 21:58:21 -0500 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Feeling Old Adam Hartfield wrote: > > I do feel ancient at times. I was singing along to "Cheek to > Cheek" at Noho, and was pleasantly surprised that the college- It's such a wonderful song. Who wouldn't know it? :) > aged woman behind me was singing along too. I'd love to hear > Moxy do the whole Gershwin and Porter songbooks. That would be so cool. > But I feel the oldest when I'm in #moxyfruvous and people are > talking about studying, working on papers, etc. Not that that's > a bad thing, mind you - it's just sometimes a culture shock. I finished up with that in May. Well, until I go to grad skool. > --Adam > adamh@javanet.com > 27 on the outside, 63 on the inside That makes you 90 in the middle, right? - -- chad at radix dot net I pay attention. I only pretend to care. --me ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 03:12:51 GMT From: shazalinrea@juno.com (Mindy J Munson) Subject: RE:Feeling Old YAH!!! Someone on here went to Harro East too! It is so true bout the age diversit;esp. at that concert. I went with one of my brothers and my parents (in their 50s). I also met up with my best friend there (I used to live in Rochester) and she was there with her teenage stepbrother, her 8 yr old half brother, and her mom and stepdad (late 30s). By the by, her step dad was the wack with the light saber. Mindy (or should I say Fruchild[it is one of my screen names]) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #74 *******************************************