From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #54 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, November 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ludlows Recording...anyone? [chattykitty@my-dejanews.com] me again... and again.... and again [Angie Armstrong ] Ludlows [Mademoiselle Monique ] Fruvous moment [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: NYC Shows [caroline ] Re: retracting of previous statement [Josh Drury ] ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ [the.way@mailexcite.com (Alex Ste] RE: ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ ["Nowik, George" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:46:03 GMT From: chattykitty@my-dejanews.com Subject: Ludlows Recording...anyone? Hey guys, This is Chattykitty again, I was just popping up to ask if anyone has a recording, audio or video of the Ludlow's concert in Columbus? I saw a bunch of you with recording equipment, but I have yet to see or hear any of you talkin' trades or purchases. I think the "You Will Go to the Moon" fiasco was priceless! If any of you do, send me an e-mail! Thanks guys, Cahttykitty (or Murraychick) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:24:01 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: me again... and again.... and again Ok, insanity (desperation?) is starting to kick in already. Mostly because I have nothing else to occupy my mind while I'm purging the database. Anyway... Is there anyone from the Buffalo or Rochester area attending the 12/3 Clinton Show at Hamilton College (and returning that night)? The Thursday rehearsal is one I might be able to miss (there's still one more before the holiday concert), and I might be able to get out of work early (maybe even as soon as 3pm). My concern isn't getting there so much as being conscious enough to make the drive back. Please email me if you are considering or have alternatives...thanks. - --Angie, wishing they could find something more productive to do... ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:09:05 GMT From: caroline Subject: Sweet Honey in the Rock >And, I don't know why, but it occurred to me that not only >would Fruheads like Sweet Honey, but their the type of group that some of >the Fruvous guys themselves would appreciate. > >Maybe somebody out there has heard of Sweet Honey and knows what I'm >babbling about? Hope so! amy - yes! the other day i walked into a (feminist) bookstore in NoHo, and they were playing SHitR, so i can vouch for their wonderfulness (which *should* be a word!). as for the guys liking them... who knows what lurks in the minds of fruvous? but since many/most fruheads have a thing for excellent a capella harmonies, they are a group i'd recommend. they're going on my "cds to buy when i have money burning a hole in my pocket" list. ;) speaking of a capella groups: i'm (most likely) going to see the House Jacks tonight. i know virtually nothing about them... anyone heard of them? like them? is it worth the money & hike to town? sorry for the low FruContent! ~Caroline ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "'Love' is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own." -Robert Heinlein, SiaSL "Every death leaves a scar, and every time a child laughs it starts healing." -Elie Wiesel, Gates of the Forest "Trust the people for whom living is a sport!" - MF, "Kids' Song" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:44:10 GMT From: Mademoiselle Monique Subject: Ludlows Okay...I just got on this mailing list today! I'm eager to see how it works. Chattykitty (Murraychick? That's cute. We should all name ourselves - --chick with our favorite Frulad. :P), I taped the Ludlows show, but it was my friend Mark's camera. He's in the process of making a copy for me. It's supposed to have the show from Kentucky which he taped, also. I'm eagerly awaiting it in the mail. - --FruMonique _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:37:13 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Fruvous moment ladywench alleges: >FruCon . . um, yeah. I'll be the one hiding in the shadows. As one who was led by posts like these to believe implicitly that the ladywench was a shy and retiring creature, let me plead with you all... DON'T FALL FOR IT! She will *not* be hiding in the shadows. trust me. hiding is *not* behavior even remotely representative of miladywench's persona. (although earnestly *believing* she's hiding is a whole 'nother story. :) ) It's okay, Jen. Your inadvertently (?????) overt self is far better company than any restrained damsel could be... - -- Lori ******************************* "And when I go to sleep at night I hear someone else's song, sung by some Canadians and thousands sing along. And everyone is dancing but I don't know the words, mystery and chimera and a million flying birds" -- the Nields "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming." - -- Forest for the Trees "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" - -- my favorite angels ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:37:20 GMT From: caroline Subject: Re: NYC Shows >Lynne Fisher wrote: >> hmmm.. I wonder what they think of , somehow getting some of us into >> those NYEve shows by way of their guest lists? This is not a selfish act, & then Chad replied: > >Really, the guest list is for people who are really truly guests of >the band. That's normally not us. i agree with Chad. i *really* don't want to start a fight here, so if i'm totally misunderstanding you, lynne, just say so and i'll shut up. ;) honestly, thought, i don't think the band owes us anything (like letting us into concerts for less than normal ticket price). first off, how many of us are actually FRIENDS with the band - that is, they would recognize us on the street, or we could call them up and go out for coffee? probably not too many. and those who can are probably already on the guest list. also, the guys do this for a living. i'm not sure how the whole gig-payment system works, but i know that their concerts are generally cheaper than other shows (especially those of bands with a fan base as rabid as we are ), and i don't mind paying more for some shows if it means they can keep performing. i'd hate for them to have to seek more lucrative occupations... ;) methinks i have spoken too much. i'm going to duck for cover now (she says as she ducks for cover). ten days 'till Clinton! ~Caroline ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "'Love' is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own." -Robert Heinlein, SiaSL "Every death leaves a scar, and every time a child laughs it starts healing." -Elie Wiesel, Gates of the Forest "Trust the people for whom living is a sport!" - MF, "Kids' Song" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:30:16 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: retracting of previous statement Nowik, George wrote: > > mortal kombat annihilation as the sequel to the first movie. nuff said. > > -= norg =- Seeing the first movie should have clued you into the fact that the second movie could not have been good, even in the unlikely event that it surpassed the original. It's based on a video game, dammit! Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 1998 20:40:35 GMT From: affannat@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato) Subject: Philly Areas Frus going to FruCon? Hey folk; It's Kelly, your friendly neighborhood dirt-poor Penn student. Due to a severe lack of funds, I missed NoHo...I WILL NOT MISS FRUCON. However, I am also not striking out all by my lonesome, so, if any of ye Philly Frus would care to get in touch, I would love to plan with ye... The fact that I'll be turning 19 exactly three weeks before FruCon makes this so much sweeter..... Get in touch folks; Peace, Love, and Tureens; Kelly Silver7 on mirc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:24:27 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Ludlows Recording...anyone? chattykitty@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > Hey guys, This is Chattykitty again, I was just popping up to ask if anyone > has a recording, audio or video of the Ludlow's concert in Columbus? I saw a > bunch of you with recording equipment, but I have yet to see or hear any of > you talkin' trades or purchases. ^^^^^^^^^^ NO! NO! NO! NO! Bad bad bad. No purchasing at all. None. This comes up every so often (is it in the FAQ?). Please please do not offer to purchase tapes. This is very illegal, very wrong, and very hurtful to the band. The band makes its money off of selling its music. They are kind enough to allow us the privelege to tape their shows for our own personal listening enjoyment. They don't do it so we can make money off of them. I don't mean to seem harsh on this. I know most of the time people offer to buy live shows because they don't know any better. Please do not offer money or charge money for tape trades. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:55:18 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: retracting of previous statement] (Seeing the first movie should have clued you into the fact that the second movie could not have been good, even in the unlikely event that it surpassed the original. It's based on a video game, dammit! Josh Drury Winnipeg) Well, it _could_ have been better (speaking of the sequel). As with most fad-inspired sequels, the writers got so caught up in trying to milk it that they killed it. I really liked Mortal Kombat (I own it... ;^) ), and was "Mortally" Disappointed with the sequel (but then again, it might also be because they killed off my favorite character within the first 10 min... *pout*). oops, I wasn't gonna post to this thread. ah well. Few sequels add up to the original. I know there are a couple, but I honestly can't remember :^) (Scream 2 wasn't bad, but nothing compare to the original). Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Star Trek don't count, they're in a league of their own! alright, back to work - --Angie (now whistling Darlington Darling) ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:08:35 GMT From: cos@wbrs.org (Ofer Inbar) Subject: new list for fans of Trina Hamlin The Hollow is a newly created list for fans of Trina Hamlin. I think there are a few of you lurking here on nields-nook, ammf, and ecto. If you want to subscribe, send email to hollow-request@smoe.org with the word "subscribe" as the body of your message (what you put in the subject doesn't matter). You'll get back a confirmation message, and you have to reply to that in order to get added to the list. Talk to you (some of you) there! -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@polyamory.org cos@leftbank.com -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "I'm going down to the hollow, where the trees meet the soul" -- Trina Hamlin, Down to the Hollow ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 1998 22:28:58 GMT From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe) Subject: Re: Favourite Candies (was Smarties) >well, i'm just impressed by the fact that guys from a completely different >country acutally knew where even to think it might be. Yeah, I agree! See, to hazard the guess that DE had the lowest highest point, Jian had to know it was a state. Which is more than I can say about some Americans I have encountered. "Havin' lotsa fun in Wilmington....." ~Joni ~~~~~~~~~~ "Who will you be when you're finally who you are? Well, we'll see, won't we? But there will be more to be by far" Greg Simon/"The Great Out There" ------------------------------ Date: 23 Nov 1998 15:32:19 -0500 From: brian tivol Subject: Mystery Setlist Before the Jess Klein (the opening act) even appeared on stage for the show at the Paradise on October 29th, there was a rogue Fruvous setlist sitting on the stage, facing the audience. It was turned the wrong way for Dave to read conveniently; it was too close to the audience for any band member to see without stepping on our hands; it was too short to actually be the setlist for the show that night; it... it.. it looked like a little gift for people who eagerly eat up this sort of artifact. So I took it. Problem is, after browsing around through the reviews on-line, I still don't know what show this belongs to. Could this be the setlist from the TV appearance on the 22nd? It reads "Saha, BJ, Boss, Michi [crossed out], Hold, Michi, King, GE&H, Potion" and is in what I think is Dave's handwriting. (Definitely not Mike's; I know that much.) If you were at the show from which this setlist hails, let me know; I'm tired of guessing. Actually, since I wasn't at the show, I don't really deserve it and you might-- I'd be happy to mail it to you if you'd like it. - --brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:42:57 -0800 From: the.way@mailexcite.com (Alex Stetson) Subject: ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ They're almost laughable. They were riding the trend of the funny, witty, satiracle, goofy accapella style of the Barenaked Ladies in the early-90's--now the Ladies are huge megastars: while Moxy Fruvous are nobodies: that's because they lack talent. I've watched Moxy Fruvous try different images/musical styles from afar--and it's a lost cause. They'll never get anywhere. Number one, you can start by changing their IDIOTIC name: people don't want esoteric band-names that people can't decipher: they want names they can grasp and identify with. What the fuck is a Moxy Fruvous? Two, the lame hippy hair of that Ghomeshi guy has to go--it's an eysore, it's a distraction, it's the frickin' 90's. He looks like he's living in the past, more specifically %22puberty%22 when growing your hair long was considered cool. He basically looks stupid. Three, it's time to pack your bags in Moxy. You've kicked around for so long, taking a kick at the can several times, to try and impress the mass-public--and you've failed each time. Plain and simple. Moxy Fruvous STINKS. Aside from your pathetic little fan-base--the real public, who might happen to catch you on some obscure Variety Show--laugh at you. Give it up. -**** Posted from Supernews, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****- http://www.supernews.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:34:03 GMT From: "Nowik, George" Subject: RE: ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ oh this is gonna be FUN. *pop knuckles* *slick hair* *inflate false pecks* "rub hands together* > They're almost laughable. They were riding the trend of the funny, > witty, > satiracle, goofy > accapella style of the Barenaked Ladies in the early-90's--now the > Ladies > are huge megastars: > while Moxy Fruvous are nobodies: that's because they lack talent. I've > first of all, i would like to know what you basis for talent is. being able to perform more than one instrument requires talent. being able to sing requires talent. bring able to write lyrics that constitute of though and wit requires talent. ok. so, now that we've completely shot your "they lack talent" argument into the proverbial dust of ages, let's move on. > watched Moxy Fruvous > try different images/musical styles from afar--and it's a lost cause. > They'll never get anywhere. > well, they're getting a lot further than you are. smack talk isn't nearly as fun to listen to as music, but we have so much more fun trashing the smack talk. > Number one, you can start by changing their IDIOTIC name: people don't > want > esoteric band-names > that people can't decipher: they want names they can grasp and > identify > with. What the fuck is a > uh oh, you used the potty mouth word. that's just not polite and it certainly doesn't get anyone to take you any more seriously than they already do. let's get back to the name. you sing the praises of the barenaked ladies being the megamondo superstars they are, yet their name, while being four male creatures who walk the earth, implies that of being that of female persuasion and lacking the fundamental warmth of clothing. so methinks that you just totally lost this one as well. would anyone else like to back me up? oh i can just _see_ the hands raising. i love this group. moving on > Moxy Fruvous? Two, the lame hippy hair of that Ghomeshi guy has to > go--it's > an eysore, it's a > distraction, it's the frickin' 90's. He looks like he's living in the > past, > more specifically %22puberty%22 > ask them. i'm sure they'll be delighted to give you an answer. don't expect it to be the same each time, but it'll be humorous. unless, of course, you have failed to remove the redwood tree that grew up your hindquarters before posting you message, in which case the whole point will be lost on you. also, what a %22? is that some newfangled nine-year-old methodology of emphasizing a word that some of us may not understand? have you been through it yet? do you realize that there are people with different hairstyles than, let's say, yours? have you explored the possibilities of the reverse mowhawk yet? i guarantee you that you will instantly garner the respect that you've always wanted yet failed to achieve up to this point. you poor soul. > when growing your hair long was considered cool. He basically looks > stupid. > but he digs your boyfriend. > Three, it's time to > pack your bags in Moxy. You've kicked around for so long, taking a > kick at > the can several times, > to try and impress the mass-public--and you've failed each time. Plain > and > i would much rather pack my bags in samsonite or tourister, but moxy will be fine. thank you for the offer. actually, they have been entertaining people for a number of years now. since when is a measure of talent based on how popular they are? if talent determined popularity, then we'd be ... umm ... like europe or japan where that stuff counts. here, in the americas, the primary importance is how large your spice rack is, your falsified body parts, and marketing. mass-public entertainment does not create talent. sorry. next argument. > simple. Moxy Fruvous > STINKS. Aside from your pathetic little fan-base--the real public, who > might > happen to catch you > on some obscure Variety Show--laugh at you. Give it up. > stinks. hmm. actually, i never told anyone about this, but they smelled pretty good when i met them. as far as variety shows and such, i believe there have been a number of nationally broadcast television things made available in at least canada, not to mention the national public radio in the united states. hmm. umm, no, you lose that one too. they still sell shows out in certain regions, have a fairly large fan base, and are probably happier than you are. now, would you like to revise your statement perhaps? maybe when you achieve high school status you will be able to provide us with a logical and intellecutal argument as to why you feel that they do not satisfy your need for good entertainment. however, as long as your vocabulary consists of 'stinks', 'nobodies', and 'puberty' (you're probably really proud that you used that word in a sentence), i highly doubt that you will be taken more than slightly seriously. you have minor applause for posting this on a newsgroup dedicated to the moxy fruvous, however. i know i can hear it somewhere in the background. oh, no wait, that's your mother washing your mouth out wish soap. excuse me. -= norg =- for those who would like the brief translation of the above text into normal english: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahhhhahahahahahah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:40:00 -0500 From: stevelev@rogers.wave.ca Subject: MF '92 tape for sale! Hi Fru-fans, I'm auctioning off my '92 "independently produced" tape at eBay. If anyone's interested, here's the location: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=44015030 If you compare the scanned image of my tape with the image at fruvous.com's discography, you'll notice that my tape has no "car" on the insert's flap. Does this have anything to do with the fact that first 1,000 tapes were released, than another 50,000... I wonder... Well, no offense intended, if anyone's looking for this tape than I've done him/her a favour, if not then sorry for taking up your time! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:03:49 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ Ok, not that this is even worth a response.. but, of course I have a few questions.. 1. why are people on this newsgroup? no, no, Ill answer-- becasue they like fruvous? OK Alex... you need to find the "lets complain about bands we dont like,in a nonuseful negative manner" newgroup, there are plenty out there, you'll find one. Your opinion, it's your opinion, I think the majority of us (sorry to speak for you guys) are here because we really like them, and id say don't agree with your perspective. So like I said, I can't believe that there isn't a newsgroup out there better suited for your interests or lack of. >now the Ladies are huge megastars: and the "guys" arent trying to be ladies... >that's because they lack talent. another opinion not shared by most... >They'll never get anywhere. um... because you are the world and make these decisions? <--sarcasm! > people don't want esoteric band-names I am definately a person, and would prefer that you don't speak for me without my consent. > Two, the lame hippy hair of that Ghomeshi guy has to go--it's >an eysore, it's a distraction, it's the frickin' 90's. From this comment I assume that you're obviously not from NYC or never been to Europe.. 'nuff said. >Three, it's time to pack your bags in Moxy. The one thing maybe anyone should listen to. Pack your bags and keep on touring and getting bigger and bigger, and having the best time of your life and lots of fun and happy fans and SMILES! of course smiles! For anyone concerned, IU know that somepeople are just dumb, and some are just angry, I try not to be an angry person... I also know that this was probably a waste, but who knows.. maybe not. - -Lynne, who doesn't need to proclaim her love or detest for anything to be a better person. :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:16:20 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: ~~~~MOXY FRUVOUS ARE PATHETIC--WHY?~~~~ Yes, I have nothing better to do than to reply to someone who posted a ridiculous post with bad formatting. That's right, I overlooked the bad formatting and read this anyway. What is wrong with me. Alex Stetson wrote: > > They're almost laughable. They were riding the trend of the funny, witty, > satiracle, goofy accapella style of the Barenaked Ladies in the > early-90's--now the Ladies are huge megastars: What defines being a "huge megastar"? Making a lot of money for your record label? Driving around in a large bus and packing stadiums, selling out shows in 8 minutes? And what does a band being "huge megastars" have to do with me liking them? Chad: "Hey, the Getaway People are huge megastars! Let's like them this week! Oh yeah! Great music!" > while Moxy Fruvous are nobodies: that's because they lack talent. I've > watched Moxy Fruvous try different images/musical styles from afar--and >it's a lost cause. They'll never get anywhere. Where is anywhere? They are obviously getting places. They got to Fort Smith Arkansas. They got to San Francisco for the first time in a long time and drew a really good crowd. They got into my CD player just now. They get into my head a lot. They've gotten into my wallet for many CDs, many shirts, a hockey jersey... > Number one, you can start by changing their IDIOTIC name: people don't want > esoteric band-names that people can't decipher: they want names they > can grasp and identify with. What the fuck is a Moxy Fruvous? What's in a name? What does a name matter? Does a band have better music when their name is short and catchy so you can say it to all your friends? Maybe it's a bit hard to get over the name at first and get used to it, but if you aren't willing to look past the name of a band, I dunno if you should be a fan of the band. > Two, the lame hippy hair of that Ghomeshi guy has to go--it's > an eysore, it's a distraction, it's the frickin' 90's. He looks like he's > living in the past, more specifically %22puberty%22 > when growing your hair long was considered cool. He basically looks > stupid. Yeah. Damn Ghomeshi. Throw him out of the band for his hair. I don't care that he's a competent drummer, a great songwriter, a great vocalist, a quick thinking, good sense-of-humour hockey lover. We think he's great, but we can't stand his *hair*. Get him out. > Three, it's time to pack your bags in Moxy. You've kicked around for so > long, taking a kick at the can several times, to try and impress the > mass-public--and you've failed each time. I guess there's a time limit that you can work your job? I always thought that if you liked doing something and were able to make a living doing it, you were allowed to keep doing it? Maybe I was wrong. > Plain and simple. Moxy Fruvous STINKS. Aside from your pathetic little > fan-base--the real public, who might happen to catch you > on some obscure Variety Show--laugh at you. Give it up. Man, someone better email Fruvous and tell them to throw in the towels. Alex Stetson thinks they stink. Alex, I like to think that we are "the real public". As long as Moxy Fruvous (or Bole or whatever they want to call themselves) makes enough money to keep themselves alive and enjoy what they do enough to keep doing it, they deserve to keep doing it and hopefully will keep doing it. And as long as they do it (or until I don't have enough money or don't enjoy it) I'll be there too. I'll keep telling my friends and forcing them to listen to Fruvous in my car. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:14:54 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: NYC Shows Before anyone else, gets all mad and stuff... >For what reason? If you want on the guest list because you are underage, >that most likely won't work. The guest list just gets you in without a >ticket, you'll probably still be carded. nope, Im way over age... I was thinking more about the typical college students that might *JUST* be able to afford a roadtrip and overnight stay in NYC >If it's because you can't afford the tickets, I dunno how appropriate Hmm, the word "you" here is bothersome. If you read my original post, it was not that i was looking for handouts, I hope you arent implying that? >Really, the guest list is for people who are really truly guests of >the band. That's normally not us. How could such a wonderful group of men, not fill up a guest list? but they do love their fans... Are you one of "those" people I originally posted about? Speaking for "US" but not being a part of "US"??? What's with the anger and defensiveness? It was purely a suggestion, for the guys to decide on/consider since someone said they do actually tend to read this.. - -Lynne TimesPlease reread:Lynne Fisher wrote: > hmmm.. I wonder what they think of , somehow getting some of us into > those NYEve shows by way of their guest lists? This is not a selfish act, > mind you (ie I am not asking for myself personally, although if it were > offered Id jump farther than..... ), I'm not sure if it's pushy or anything > either, but it isnt my intention. It is just an idea, having no clue > whatsover if they fill their guest list to begin with. ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #54 *******************************************