From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #41 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, November 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Misheard Lyric Revisited [Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: Majors (was Comp Sci) ["amy" ] Re: Fruvous moment ["andi andrzejewski" ] Re: Moxy who? ["Schwan, Phil" ] Re: Frvous Gets Song of the Week [melzie@elsewhere.fragment.com (Melzie)] Re: Moxy who? [Brenda Longstreet ] Re: A Chatty Bunch [puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal)] Re: .....clinton countdown..... [puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal)] Re: First concerts? [koogle@clark.net] Re: First concerts? [Richard Butterworth Bobby McFerrin --> Van Morrison... watch and see! [ted.hering@juno.co] Re: hi [puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal)] Re: Moxy who? [Richard Butterworth ] Re: Fru and Broadway... ["KatieWow" ] Re: .....clinton countdown..... ["KatieWow" ] Re: Misheard Lyric Revisited [Josh Drury ] Re: Moxy who? [Josh Drury ] Re: Moxy who? ["KatieWow" ] RE: Newspaper review of Friday Noho show ["Demetriou, Melanie" ] Re: hi [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: Frvous Gets Song of the Week [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: [Re: Majors (was Comp Sci)] [Srm9988n@aol.com] Re: A Chatty Bunch [Marie.Claude@canada.com] RE: [A Distinct Lack of Degrees] ["Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: Re: Misheard Lyric Revisited BBWMinors wrote: : "Prince and pauper, Junior and Walker" -- you know, as in Junior Walker and the : All-Stars? Figured it was cool oblique musical reference. We still like it : better than Junior and Whopper. Hmmm...feeling stupid now...I've always thought it was Junior and Walker and I have never even heard of that group. Guess I really should read those lyrics more closely - guess Whopper does ryhme with copper better (AND makes more sense to the lyrics). Silly misheard lyrics. For a whole database of 'em (non-Fru related though, but you can add your own!), check out http://www.kissthisguy.com Sara _______ The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat. ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 1998 14:56:51 GMT From: "amy" Subject: Re: Majors (was Comp Sci) I'm pretty sure I fit the "psych-ish" category! (And probably the "psych-o" category as well) BA Psych, MA Clinical Psych, PhD Clinical Psych Comp Sci? What's that? :) - -- amy - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- I'm waitin' at the station with my old friend sublimation you know the Wright boys designed planes . . . musta been a long time . . . between trains --Susan Werner - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- Lynne Fisher wrote in article ... > >>Anyone else here study Comp Sci? > > > I think the "not it's" are more rare... like me *grin* > Who else has a Psych-ish background? > AS Business > BS Elementary Ed > MA Higher Ed. > Computers are my hobby! > -Lynne > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:13:12 GMT From: "andi andrzejewski" Subject: Re: Fruvous moment Jennifer there are also several Tim Horton's in the buffalo area depending on where you are staying - -also java temple is an interesting place to hang out and it's on allen street between Delaware and Main and I've heard mixed reviews about Solid Grounds on Elmwood and Bryant. On 19 Nov 1998 01:59:45 GMT Jennifer Burnett wrote: >I have to share my fruvous moment. I was sitting in the board room at >work and I looked on the wall to see a map of North America with flags >pinned where our venders are located. It reminded me of the Dunkin >donut "map" at the Buffalo show. I laughed to myself and remembered I >was looking all around downtown Buffalo on the Sunday morning after the >show for a donut shop for coffee with a caffine withdrawed passenger >beside me. I couldn't find one so I had to go over the boarder back to >Canada. I went to the first exit from the highway and found a Tim >Hortons on just about every second block. >Can any Buffalo native tell me where I can find a coffee on Sunday >morning? My friend would love you forever. > >Thanks >Jennifer > > Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:17:16 GMT From: "Schwan, Phil" Subject: Re: Moxy who? >>but what do _you_ think is the definitive Moxy Fr³vous song? That's like asking for the definitive Beatles song. At best you could only hope to pick a song that defines a particular TIME PERIOD for them. Each album is quite different from the others. I am just as guilty of comparing them to TMBG/BNL, but not because I really think they sound the same. It gives them a well-known, well-liked springboard to get them interested. If asked this question a few years back, I would definitely say King of Spain. This was the first Moxy song I ever heard, it's the first a lof of my friends heard, and it's usually one of the first (if not THE first) I play for people who don't know them. But after all I've seen them do in the past few years, I find it hard to think of any one song as the definition of what Moxy really is. By their very nature, they escape definition. - -Phil ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:54:34 GMT From: melzie@elsewhere.fragment.com (Melzie) Subject: Re: Frvous Gets Song of the Week In article <72sr9h$6jt$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>, KatieWow wrote: >i don't know if this has been brought up already, but at www.a-cappella.com, >"king of spain" is the song of the week!!! check it out!!! Ya! Just noticed that this morning!!! :) *smooch to ya'll - -Melzie aka limbo lower now.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:43:59 GMT From: Brenda Longstreet Subject: Re: Moxy who? something else that is a problem is that they are so different live compared to a recording. by listening to the cd you only get about 1/3 of what they are all about.....so i guess live noise should help some. i made my latest conquest (my brother and his friend) by taking them to the alfred show....now i am without any moxy for the week cause they borrowed all my cd's!! > That's like asking for the definitive Beatles song. At best you could only hope to pick a song that > defines a particular TIME PERIOD for them. Each album is quite different from the others. I am just > as guilty of comparing them to TMBG/BNL, but not because I really think they sound the same. > It gives them a well-known, well-liked springboard to get them interested. If asked this question a few > years back, I would definitely say King of Spain. This was the first Moxy song I ever heard, it's the first > a lof of my friends heard, and it's usually one of the first (if not THE first) I play for people who don't > know them. But after all I've seen them do in the past few years, I find it hard to think of any one song > as the definition of what Moxy really is. By their very nature, they escape definition. > > -Phil > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:12:48 GMT From: puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal) Subject: Re: A Chatty Bunch >> Lynne Fisher wrote in message ... >> >Is everyone else having trouble keeping up with the number >> >of posts here? >Nah. Well, unless I don't read every night. I have to delete most messages without reading because my server is a long distance call. Being unemployed I can only allow 10 minutes a time to reading. Sigh. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:30:04 GMT From: puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal) Subject: Re: .....clinton countdown..... >Chad Schrock wrote in message <3653AB10.BB71937B@radix.net>... >>KatieWow wrote: >>> >>> i live in baltimore. it's a good 8-10 hours. >>> ~~kate >> >>ugh Hi Chad we met at Baltimore, i'm Mikes friend. It isn't quite that far away (I live here in NY) Baltimore is six hours away. Maybe not much better but..... Hey Mac and I would be glad to provide crash space and food if you can make it up here. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:56:39 GMT From: koogle@clark.net Subject: Re: First concerts? In article <36563aa4.851826896@news.supernews.com>, jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) wrote: > > Um....I went through a period in the 80s of absolutely worshipping Jon > Bon Jovi and getting all those darn teen beat magazines with him in > them. :) That embarrassing enough? :) Heh. I heard some story where Jon Bon Jovi, or however he's spelling his last name now, apologized for his role in promoting 80s hair metal in all it's woman-objectifying glory. I thought that was kinda funny. - --Amanda "It was exactly like baby aspirin, only it was ice cream; and it rocked my world." - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:29:29 +0000 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: First concerts? koogle@clark.net wrote: > Heh. I heard some story where Jon Bon Jovi, or however he's spelling his last > name now, apologized for his role in promoting 80s hair metal in all it's > woman-objectifying glory. That's nice for him. Is he giving all the money back he earnt by it too? No? Tinkerty tonk Richard - ------------------------------------------------------ `I was a rose in April and still a rose in June, I fear that come the winter I shall no longer bloom.' Kate Rusby - ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:19:53 GMT From: ted.hering@juno.com Subject: Re: Beatles covers --> Bobby McFerrin --> Van Morrison... watch and see! In article <3653D854.C53DB21A@abs.net>, David G Garcia wrote: > Angie Armstrong wrote: > > > all quite enjoyable. (I believe it all started with someone wanting to hear > > FOTB played on a Tuba...) > > I believe it was Spike Jones who originated the bit with FOTB on tuba. As I recall, he lasted about 45 seconds > into it before collapsing in laughter. Anyone know the full details? Close! Actually, it was a trombone... not a tuba. "The Jones Laughing Record" was recorded in 1946, and was reissued on the LP "Spike Jones is Murdering the Classics" in 1971. It has appeared on one or two CDs, but might be out of print now. ted.hering - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:24:42 GMT From: puggles@mindspring.com (Kelly MacDougal) Subject: Re: hi Richard Butterworth wrote: >Hello Angel and well done for spotting the slightly confusing nature of some of >the posts on this ng. I feel it my duty to point out that this is, in fact, not >a forum for dicussion of Moxy Fruvous related issues at all, but a huge >government conspiracy. Too too funny. I made my husband come in and read too, we both lost it completely over the hamsters, but then that's an inside joke around our place. So Richard where do you live, I'd love to recruit you into doing some writng for a group of mine. >Oh, and six degrees of seperation is the average temperature of your feet when >you say goodbye to someone you love dearly. Angle, six degrees of separation is the theory that we are all no more than six people away from everyone else on the planet. For instance I have met Martin Sheen, and my cousin is Pat Buttram (he played Mr. Haney on Green Acres). So via me they are only two degrees from you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:25:13 +0000 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: Moxy who? Angie Armstrong wrote: > Here is the typical conversation > from the past week or so: > > [ Conversation that we've all had, I think, except I usually get an extra question thrown in...] > > me: They're a vocal group from Canada. x : Where? > How do _you_ describe Früvous to the unenlightened? As wholly undescribable and uncategorisable. `Like' the Spice Girls, in the same way that getting run over by a fast moving steam train is `like' a sunset over the ocean. Tinkerty tonk Richard - ------------------------------------------------------ `I was a rose in April and still a rose in June, I fear that come the winter I shall no longer bloom.' Kate Rusby - ------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:07:04 GMT From: melzie@elsewhere.fragment.com (Melzie) Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway... In article <3651bfb5.275525845@news3.ibm.net>, Colleen Campbell wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:12:00 -0500, "KatieWow" >wrote: > >Some, if not all, of them have had musical theater training. Don't >quote me on it, but I believe Mike, Murray, and Jian met in their high >school theater department. Jian laughed one time when I said Sondheim >was one of my favorite writers and stared singing "I am not worthy of >your love" from "Assassins". . . *snicker* that might be a bad sign :) Hmm...I grew up as a theatre brat! My complete fave has to be Sweeny Todd!!! For some reason Les Miz has never done much for me. I adore Fantastiks!, Miss Saigon, Aspects, Dames at Sea, Company, Once Upon A Mattress, Little Shop .... and just lots of little old kitchy musicals that are probably too hokey for the normal crowd! :) My beloved brother got me the collection of all Four Forbidden Broadway discs for my last birthday :) Just in a rambly mood and feeling a bit restless! Melzie aka fell asleep to the second disc of Phantom from track 6 on for about 2 1/2 years -- still puts me right out! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:46:26 GMT From: "Glen -Skip- Newell" Subject: Re: Majors (was Comp Sci) Lynne F. quoted- >>>Anyone else here study Comp Sci? >>and then said... >I think the "not it's" are more rare... like me *grin* >Who else has a Psych-ish background? >AS Business >BS Elementary Ed >MA Higher Ed. >Computers are my hobby! >-Lynne As for me; AS Electronic Technology (way too long ago...*l*) AS Philosophy BFA Theatre (Directing/ Managment) ...And the Fruvous content is that the Lads all have similar backgrounds ! tee hee... Skip > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:18:03 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway... >My beloved brother got me the collection of all Four Forbidden Broadway >discs for my last birthday :) i love forbidden broadway!!! "shall we boink . . . " :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:21:03 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: .....clinton countdown..... >Baltimore is six hours away. blech. i stand corrected. i used to live in albany, and i tend to measure all NY distances from there :). ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:12:57 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Misheard Lyric Revisited nafio@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > Kelly wrote: > > > My misheard lyric is from 'Horseshoes'. The first time I heard the > > song was in concert and I would swear they said - > > "Stare straight at the Commandere's Aster" > > There's a Monty Python sketch lurking in there, but I'm just reading the ng > as a bad cure for insomnia so I don't think I'm up to writing one out. Perhaps you're thinking of "No time Toulouse". JD ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:21:31 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Moxy who? Schwan, Phil wrote: > > >>but what do _you_ think is the definitive Moxy Fr³vous song? > > That's like asking for the definitive Beatles song. It's one of their strenghts, I guess, that their popularity or musical prestige can be based largely on one song, or even a few. There's really not even a defifnitive Moxy Fruvous album. Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:32:35 -0500 From: "KatieWow" Subject: Re: Moxy who? >How do _you_ describe Früvous to the unenlightened (without going into a >lengthy dissertation)? If you were to use an example, what would you use as a >representative song? Saturday it happened to be "Bargainville," which she >liked... but what do _you_ think is the definitive Moxy Früvous song? this is so funny. last night my roommate's biology study group came in as i was dubbing "bargainville" for a friend. they were all tapping their feet with confused looks on their faces, and my roommate (as if she had forgotten her manners or something), says, "oh . . . kate, explain your music." (oddly, i think i was reading the group at the time.) i turned around and said, "oh--it's canadian." either they understood or thought they were supposed to, because they all kind of nodded solemnly. i laughed inside knowing that they didn't quite understand :). oh well. maybe someday. ~~kate ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:00:51 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: Newspaper review of Friday Noho show On Wednesday, November 18, 1998 11:51 PM, vika@ibm.net [SMTP:vika@ibm.net] wrote: > MHO -- she's no clone. She's got a style of her own. As much as I > respect Ani. Too bad the reviewer didn't see it that way. Well, heck, Vika - this is the same woman who identified Dave as "the accordion and banjo player" of Moxy Fruvous. She must have been in line for the restrooms during all those tunes when he plays guitar. Melanie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:36:14 GMT From: nafio@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: hi > > On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Richard Butterworth wrote: > > > Hello Angel and well done for spotting the slightly confusing > > > nature of some of the posts on this ng. I feel it my duty to > > > point out that this is, in fact, not a forum for dicussion of > > > Moxy Fruvous related issues at all, but a huge government > > > conspiracy. I have responded to the challenge and quoted Richard at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3227/conspiracy.html If you ever need a laugh it is preserved there in its entirety Fiona - -- "I'm SO a Dave's people if it weren't for Mike..." - -Marie-Claude Nov 16/98 - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:48:32 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: "Fly" apocrypha Srm9988n@aol.com wrote: > But the 2nd verse that's > listed on wood adds something different and deeper to the song, imho, > and as it's been "published" I thought maybe it had been sung, but I've > never heard it. They did the song that way a couple times in the very beginning of its existence. I think the reason why we are allowed to hear new songs is because one of the best ways to refine a song and to get more in touch with it and comfortable with it is to perform it semi-regularly. You get more intimate with it and understand it. That's probably where the verse went away, because it didn't feel correct in the context of the entire song. Good powerful lyrics are only a piece of what can make a song great. Unfortunately for the band, we are around at every step of the way for them and when they just want to throw something out there to see how it goes, we take it and announce something new and it just balloons from there. As for the actual removed verse, reading it again, I like the song better without it. "When you're getting tired of normal" kinda trivializes the relationship that is ending as something that has gone stale over time instead of a relationship that you've worked hard to get somewhere with and decided that you can't possibly get there. The whole verse seems more about rationalizing the end of the relationship instead of glorifying what was had even though it is ending, you know? But the idea in the verse is a good one and probably worthy of another song entirely. It just isn't the same idea as the rest of the song to me and in my opinion, it shows a mature lyrical nature that it was removed. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:16:57 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: hi chad asked: >Where is Mulder when you need him.... :) Ladywench and Mike gave him a kick in the ass for dissing her car, and he's still recovering. :D - --Lori (who's almost recovered her voice) "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming" ------------------------------ Date: 19 Nov 1998 18:20:29 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: Frvous Gets Song of the Week Melzie!!!! How's your car????? Lisa (BBWMinors in the car next to you at Baltimore) ...and to tie into the Beatles thread, it's the one with the license plate reading RUBRSOL (our neighbors think our name is Rubersol so next time we need a pseudonym we are going to use "Moxy Rubersol"). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:28:41 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: [Re: Majors (was Comp Sci)] Angie wrote: >And I _still_ don't know what I want to be when I grow up!!! imnsho, growing up is highly overrated. :) it's one of those tasks i've never bothered to devote much time to. (gee, can anyone here tell?) - -- Lori, feeling puckish. or elfish. or murrmaidish. something ethereal and slightly ditzy. "then a flashback to the dream and angels singing songs" "When I am dreaming, I don't know if I'm truly asleep or if I'm awake And when I get up, I don't know if I'm truly awake, or if I'm still dreaming" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:18:40 GMT From: Marie.Claude@canada.com Subject: Re: A Chatty Bunch Lynne Fisher wrote: > Is everyone else having trouble keeping up with the number of posts here? > *faint* > The guys need to have more an more and more concerts to get us all out > more, then we can assign one reviewer... > -lynne > what can I say, Im tasky I agree. 150+ posts a day?? I can't keep up. Please try to stay relevant... With so many people on the ng now, it's only a reasonable request :) Marie-Claude "I paid for that feeling -- I was glad it came back for free!" - Arlo Guthrie - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:29:36 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: [A Distinct Lack of Degrees] On Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:56 PM, Srm9988n@aol.com [SMTP:Srm9988n@aol.com] wrote: > Somehow it seems to me that you guys will understand that conflict > more than a lot of people who just spout happy platitudes without > thinking of the other side of the equation. It is pretty sad to think of the other side of that relationship; I can't imagine giving up a child. The good news is that you'll be giving something to that woman's child that she could not give it herself. So, in a way, you're giving that woman a gift. (Is that a platitude? Sorry.) > I *don't* think! :) But my grandfather's name *was* Larry.... Okay. Larry for a boy, Clebdon for a girl. (Nobody should be named Boniface!) > It's not. that's the secret keystroke for the umlaut, on the > computer I haven't bought yet.... Yeah, I have a computer like that! > No. But at least now I'm able to sing. :) That pretty flamingo song? :-) Melanie ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #41 *******************************************