From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #31 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, November 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fruvous on the brain [Srm9988n@aol.com] Katonah addendum/King of Spain [Srm9988n@aol.com] Renaming the Katie! (was Let your voice be heard) ["Schwan, Phil" ] Re: First concerts??? [Richard Butterworth ] Re: [Katonah addendum/King of Spain] [Angie Armstrong ] Re: Cross-fanning! [Chad Maloney ] successful tie-in of two threads [epbuckley@my-dejanews.com] Fw: A few Noho pix scanned and online ["Adam Hartfield" ] Re: First concerts??? [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] Re: [Re: Grudge] [Angie Armstrong ] Introduction to Decibal Overload (i.e. first concert) ["Nowik, George" ] Re: [Katonah addendum/King of Spain] [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)] beatle covers? [Amy Schrader ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:52:59 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Fruvous on the brain chad wrote: >>Haha! How true Lori! It is amazing the lads aren't 500lbs by now, >It's all the jumping up and down on stage. I can imagine that >being Human Flubber takes a lot out of you. although there is a buddha belly out there :D And he's the one who claims he can't handle the sweets. >> "who wants a cookie?" >Depends. Is the Cookie Monster naked? Of course he is! But the Count isn't thank goodness. - -- Lori (little Murrmaid) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:58:56 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Katonah addendum/King of Spain chad had to know: >> Ummmm, I realize I didn't mention that Jian *completely* outdid >> himself while introducing the King's *arrival* on stage. >And he said what??? (enquiring and jealous minds want to know!) You'll be sorry.... Go get your trusty thesaurus. Look up "arrive". Let your imagination wander. Imagine Jian's wandering, while his mouth is engaged. I think Ji's used this line before, but not quite so vividly. Any more questions? - -- Lori (little murrmaid) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:56:56 GMT From: "Schwan, Phil" Subject: Renaming the Katie! (was Let your voice be heard) First of all, how do you pronounce your laste name? Are you planning on keeping your middle name? If so, what is it? My wife and I had tons of fun coming up with names for our daughter before settling on Leah Madison Schwan. How about Brianna Renee? - -Phil, digging back into the name book... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:37:24 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: A Distinct Lack of Degrees] You know, someone tried to explain the whole "Degrees of Seperation" concept to me, but left me with a huge headache. I have noticed that the world indeed seems to be getting smaller as I get older and meet more people, and discover how many of them know people I knew or currently know. It gets scary sometimes, but It's kinda cool at the same time. Hmmm, I've met all of the Lads (Dave last fall; Mike, Murray and Jian on the 7th), gotten all of their autographs (Mike, Murray and Jian twice), and have gotten hugs from Murray and Jian once. No pix, as of yet... Jian remembered me but not my name (told him to think "The Rolling Stones")... what degree would that place me in? Oh, I've seen Amy Schrader and Kelly w/the FrüSignal, but haven't actually met them... and I rode in with Taryn and her friends. On a semi-related note, I'd like to ask a favor. I'm not very good at walking up to people and saying, "hi, I'm a fan too! lets socialize" so I was wondering. If anyone from the ng is going to the Clinton show and spots me, please come up and say hi. I already know I'll be wearing blue jeans, black boots, the "I love Canadian Boys" Baby-T, probably will have flannel tied around my waist (it seems to be my general concert-wear), and a leather studded bracelet. I always forget to mention it because well, I don't think about it... but I'm [choose your politically correct term, i lose track] Black American/African American/Black/Woman of Color/blah blah blah what ever. I do seem to be something of a minority in the FrüCrowd, so I might stick out ;^) Dare to be different, right? anyway, i deal much better with people coming up to me...but i'm gonna try and like I said, I'll have food! - --Angie ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:43:06 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: First concerts??? On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:00 GMT, jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) wrote: >On 16 Nov 1998 01:43:41 GMT, bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) wrote: > >> I have been a Beatles fanatic ever since (even met >>Paul McCartney at the supermarket when I was nine and got his autograph on the >>grocery list). > >Lucky!! I've pretty much given up on the remote possibility that I'd >ever meet him. :) (Though if I did...I think I'd pass out or >something. :) ) About 10 years ago, Paul McCartney was honored with a lifetime achievement Grammy, and on the Grammy Award broadcast, Meryl Streep introduced him by telling a story of sneaking out of the house when she was a teenager and going to see the Beatles at Shea stadium, and how excited she was that she was finally going to get to meet her favorite Beatle. After the McCartney retrospective was shown, Paul came on stage and the first thing he did was kiss Meryl, who, on live national television, almost fainted. I don't know how I will react when I finally get to meet Paul, but I take heart that it won't be on national televisioin, and I won't, therefore, be as embarrased as Meryl Streep was. >I feel like I'm cheating on the Beatles or something. >But...but...y'all understand, don't you??? :) I tried to resist >it...for almost an entire year of loving Früvous I still maintained >that the Beatles were my favorite. But I "came out" Halloween weekend >in Northampton to my friends. I admitted the awful truth...that I am >a Frühead to the core and could not be happier. :) From my perspective, there is The Beatles, and there is everyone else. And I am happy to say that Moxy Fruvous is my favorite band of all those bands who are not The Beatles. >(Of course, the most wonderful moment for me was Moxy doing This Boy >in Northampton. I was just full of oodles of joy. But I hated myself >later for liking it better than the Beatles' version. :) ) Of all Beatles songs, I would love to see Moxy Fruvous cover "Run For Your Life" or "For No One" (on which I picture Murray singing lead, for some reason) one day. A number of years ago, I was reluctant to admit that some folks perform better versions of Beatles songs. And I have no problem with that, now. I have even made it into sort of a collection. Currently, the list includes: "Come Together" by Aerosmith, "The Long And Winding Road" by Joe Cocker, and the incomprable version of "Eleanor Rigby" by Ray Charles. Like everything else Ray Charles does, he performs "Eleanor Rigby" as though it were written just for him. - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:31:50 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: Fru and Broadway Ladywench said, > I mentioned the possible irony of The Drinking Song being followed by > Finnegans Wake. The ladywench forgets that this was a musical in three acts (songs?) with Drinking Song followed by The Night Paddy Murphy Died, and *then* Finnegans Wake. What can I say? We were drunk on Frutripping. - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:07:12 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: A distinct lack of degrees ladywench once again can't help getting in trouble: >>Since I have now actually met so many of you, the number of >>degrees that I am seperated by to a whole *lot* of people >>has shrunk exponentially! >Um . . I don't think that is what Lori was referring to . . . Well, that *too*. - -- the little murrmaid (I'll have fries with that!) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1998 07:41:03 -0500 From: Taylor Wray Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff... chock me up to both TPB and MST3K. and anime, too... but only if it's subtitled. (dubbing... ech!) and if you can think up other bits of pop culture that have a TLA i'll probably jump all over that one, too. :) JMTCW, - -t - -- Taylor Wray 334 South Street twray@segosf.hlo.dec.com Shrewsbury, MA 01545 Compaq Computer Corporation (508) 841-3668 MEMBER: Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email http://www.cauce.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:12:15 +0000 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: First concerts??? An ageing NasusT wrote: > Okay, now my age is showing, but my first concert was Cheap Trick (and either > UFO or Blue Oyster Cult opened up). Anyone care to tell me their first concert > was Led Zepplin??? Will Pink Floyd on The Wall tour do? The thing is I can hardly remember a thing about it now. Probably just as well, load of self-pitying, misoginistic nonsense that The Wall is. UFO? Oh dear, almost as ridiculous as Judas Priest... Tinkerty tonk Richard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:27:46 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Re: grudge Lynne wrote: > I think I Will Hold On could be a kind of breakthrough radio hit. I > >don't really listen to the radio, I think IWHO can be absolutely as huge as they want to take it. (Dare i mention the word ....... video? Oooops, I did. VH1?? Now I'm really scaring me!) This song can absolutely be a breakout piece. It's "pop"py enough (aaaack! I used that word about Fruvous!) My formerly Frugin brother- in-law (whose tastes have gone utterly top 40 in the last few years after a requisite teen metalhead period) just LOVED it. It's one of the songs he remembered through the laughter and excitement of his first time. But it's also as far removed from Celine Dion as is imaginable. There is a depth to the vocals, the instrumentation, and the lyrics that separates it from any romantic anguish/resolution song I've heard on commercial radio in about twenty years. (Geez, can anyone tell I love this song?) From what I've heard about grudge from the ladywench, it's got a completely different edge. But can I see them on the same CD? Absolutely. To me they seem like a great one-two punch-counterpunch, showing musical versatility and stupefying thematic range, a Jian song and a Murray song. Sure they belong together. And this is Fruvous we're talking about here, who seem able to put whatever the hell they want on a CD, and have it come out sounding amazing and integrated. Just my unsolicited .02 (or .032). - -- Lori ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:03:41 GMT From: Srm9988n@aol.com Subject: Katonah show (kinda long) Caroline corrected me: >BJ Don't Cry (with an "Ashley Judd's son/save the goddamn Hudson" line >thrown in) ooh, Caroline, you're good. I couldn't quite put that together. Does anyone remember what the Giuliani line really was? - -- Lori (still wearing that slap-happy grin) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:50:37 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: A few Noho pix scanned and online Hi all, I've managed to scan a few Noho pix and put them online. I wish I'd taken lots more pictures of lots more people...bygones. There's always next time. If any of you in the pictures object to them being online, email me and I'll take the offending picture(s) down. - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:58:07 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Katonah addendum/King of Spain] (You'll be sorry....) I am... (Go get your trusty thesaurus. Look up "arrive". Let your imagination wander.) (*hysterical giggling*) um... ahem. didnt' have to wander far... for some strange reason my eyes were drawn to a particular word. heehee ( _Imagine Jian's wandering, while his mouth is engaged._) oooh, i'm just gonna leave that one right alone... but thank you ever so much for putting such evil thoughts in my head ;^} - --Angie, attempt to get her giggling under control ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:41:49 GMT From: Brenda Longstreet Subject: nuits..long just for kicks i put the entire lyrics of nuits into a french/english translator and this is what i got..i think its kinda funny... Far from the guerreset of the cases popularies y' had love in the air the effervescence of a danse.Elle news was naked, I let it make. Silk cloths in distress in the chambre.Nuits décadance without censure. Do you intend to come the cold which quivers, which murmurs? Where passed all to our nights of rêve?Aide me to find them. You said that always suited you me aimer.A hundred per hour one chokes his heart. The Utopias become ambiguous. The horlage soone each hour addicted to drink of the lovers become held. Silk cloths in distress in the chambre.Nuits filled of lost passions. But one morning it embraced it coldly and disappeared. Where passed all to our nights of rêve?Aide me to find them. You said that always suited you me aimer.Sous snow, the end of the horse-gear. Traces of step forever perdues.Mes days are hard, I could of future. It left me only the hands nues.Draps silk given up in the room. Sleepless nights to foam of the no through roads. I seek you everywhere, I dev _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:02:46 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Cross-fanning! "Jack S. Porcello" wrote: > 1st concert: I was *very* young when I saw Louis Armstrong while > the family was on holiday. Also, 1971 at the Highland Park Bowl > was the site of Chuck Mangione's Together concert, with the RPO > and his band. Tony Levin on bass! I was 10. Tony Levin and Louis Armstrong!!! Oh yeah... Funny Tony Levin coincidence story: So, I finally actually saw Peter Mulvey (incredible folk singer - http://www.petermulvey.com - check him out if you get the chance) last Friday in Yellow Springs OH at Antioch College. Now, I had no idea where I was going and had directions from Tracy telling me semi-where to go. So, I got there a little late and was wondering around when I spotted some people unloading a car full of percussion equiptment. One guy, dressed in a white suit coat, looked almost exactly like bass-god[1] Tony Levin. So, I figured I could either wander around aimlessly or follow Tony Levin and see where he leads me. Well, I followed him for awhile until I spotted Tracy and let Tony get away. Later, after I had told Tracy this story, I bought Peter Mulvey's Deep Blue CD (good stuff) and was reading the liner notes. Who plays bass on the CD? None other than Tony Levin. Weird. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:31:43 GMT From: epbuckley@my-dejanews.com Subject: successful tie-in of two threads since we've been on the subjects of (1) the gulf war song, and (2) dreams, here is what i dreamed last night: i painted anti-war slogans in four-foot high letters, in green tempera (sp?) paint, somewhere on the campus of johns hopkins. for those of you thinking that this ties in yet another thread (i.e. fruvous's mention of JHU at the baltimore show), it *would* make sense, but i actually went there, so that's probably why it happened there. i say "somewhere" because it caused a great ruckus on campus and i couldn't understand why. people were out on the street, scrubbing the paint away, but painting the *street* is not really a terrible crime. the reason for the ruckus, i think, is that even though people were cleaning it off the street, i really painted it on the floors of gilman hall, which is the oldest and most historically-significant dinosaur of a building on campus. but hey, it was *poster* paint. i didn't *really* deface the Great Gilman Hall. my boss was one of the people frantically cleaning away what i had written, because while he is something of a peacenik himself, he is even more an Offend- No-one type person. there was more to the dream, but it dealt mostly with my pathological fear of vomiting, so i won't go into it here. peace, ellen (what could i say, i'm only 28 years old....) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:10 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Fw: A few Noho pix scanned and online >:) >What's the addy, adam? > >nate Like, duh. Trying to do too many things at once - work, IRC, talk on phone. http://www.javanet.com/~adamh/noho - --Adam adamh@javanet.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:13:10 GMT From: wahrend@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Let Your Voice Be Heard! Pick a New Name for Kate!!! (was re:fruheads/deadheads . . .) This isn't going to be a long post... but I must say, damn! 90 messages just this night alone... Anyways, I've always been partial to the name Rhiannon. I'd vote for that. "wild" Bill (not creative at all this morning.. ) - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:56:52 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Grudge koogle@my-dejanews.com wrote: > But I haven't heard Grudge. The two descriptions I heard are in conflict. One > said it was the anti IWHO, while the other said it was in the same vein as > Bittersweet. Does anybody else who heard one of the performances of Grudge > (which I tried to typo as 'fridge') have any comment? As far as I know, it has only been performed once, in Buffalo... It sounds to me like it's about a relationship that has lotsa conflicts in it. The narrator seems to be in a very conflict-ful relationship that's caused mostly by the other person. The narrator just concedes in the fighting and takes it and continues to do that, even though the other person just seems to want to fight... The bass part is really great. Sing songy melodic along with the guitar and then sorta walkin' driving while Mur sings. I think the song will get a lot better as they get more confidence in it. It's about where I Will Hold On was the first time I saw it and better than Half as Much when I first saw it, but not as good as Pisco when I first saw it *grin* Those are all technical rating and have nothing to do with which songs I personally like the best... - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1998 15:34:00 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: First concerts??? Rodney wrote: <> Seguing into an interesting thread, I think the Beatles song I'd most like to see Moxy Fruvous cover would be "Two of Us." It's just such a fun song ... someone else mentioned earlier that their parents had taken them to their first concerts and while my mom never took me to a concert, she did take me to see "Hard Day's Night" the week it opened and let me stay to watch the movie three times in a row (I guess she also enjoyed it). My clearest memory of that is sitting in the loge of the Trans Lux 85th Street in NYC (long gone) and crying during the scene where they dance in the disco to "I Wanna Be Your Man" because I wanted to be the girl dancing with Paul (I was only 5, remember). My mom sat through a lot of afternoons of my friend Karen and I acting out Beatles songs for her, most notably the above-mentioned "Two of Us" ... I guess I'm getting some payback now as my daughter (8) and her two best friends have formed their own band and gave me a command performance the other night in the basement ... Dana is the drummer and lead singer and thank God she now has Jian as a role model instead of Karen Carpenter. By the way, the band did two songs for me -- their own rap they wrote and ... King of Spain. Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:31:05 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: Re: [Re: Grudge] I heard Grudge in Bflo, I believe. I don't really remember it though. It didn't grab me like IWHO did the first time I heard it. Then again, I'm a big sap and love "weepy" songs... my fave before IWHO was Horseshoes, and before that was Fly, and before that was Fell in Love Sometimes it takes me a couple of times hearing it before I can get into it or judge it. Maybe they'll perform it in Clinton on Fri and I'll pay a little more attention. I haven't decided about Sad Girl either, and I've heard now I think about 3 times. I absolutely love Pisco Bandito. There's a dance?? I love to dance!! I wanna dance!! *sigh* I'm Früvin' again, gotta go find my walkman. - --Angie ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:19:36 GMT From: "Nowik, George" Subject: Introduction to Decibal Overload (i.e. first concert) hmm. first concert ... i think that would have been Dream Theater in around 1992 or 1993. i've still got that ticket stub somewhere, i should find out. it was the coolest show: progressive rock with no mosh pit and seats at the venue. ahhh bliss. amazing group of musicians. i can count all the concerts i've been to on two hands. not much of a concert goer i guess. at least, i usually stick to shows i know i'll like. for example: going to a bare naked ladies concert and not knowing the vast majority of the music was somewhat of a letdown. (: although, going to the yanni concert a while back and not knowing the music was not a requirement.... it was just plain 100% adrenaline rushing sweetness music. dis not yanni unless you've seen him in concert: it's an experience you'll not likely forget. my work here is finished. -= norg =- > ---------- > From: Amy Schrader[SMTP:schr9271@fredonia.edu] > Subject: First Concerts > > My first concert...would have to be Perfect Thyroid. They're probably > the > BEST ska band I've heard and they put on a free show at my college > (yes my > first concert was not until I could excape my parents) along with > Donna > the Buffalo...but i didn't like them as much (I'm sure, considering my > tastes in music now, I'd like them a whole lot more today). As far as > big > shows go, Indigo Girls played at my school later that year...and then > Fruvous in Rochester that summer...all for free!!!! Ya gotta love > it!!!....too bad i no > longer go to Elmira College...but it was nice while it lasted. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:53:31 -0700 From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers) Subject: Re: [Katonah addendum/King of Spain] In article <19981117145256.20653.qmail@www0e.netaddress.usa.net>, LladyYasmina@netscape.net says... > ( _Imagine Jian's wandering, while his mouth is engaged._) > > oooh, i'm just gonna leave that one right alone... but thank you ever so much > for putting such evil thoughts in my head ;^} I'm at least glad I wasn't the only one who went there. :) k@ So ashamed. Not. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:37:12 GMT From: Angie Armstrong Subject: FruCon Question I have a question regarding Something to bring to FrüCon. some people that I sing with have their own subgroup; and two of their most popular pieces are "King of Spain" and "SpiderMan," (of course, they also do an incredibly entertaining "Wimoweh" and a heart-wrenching "And so it goes," but I digress). I have a CD with them doing both songs, and was wondering if (with their permission) I could/should bring it and if anyone would be interested in hearing someone covering Moxy Früvous? Of course, a couple of them are Fans themselves but I haven't heard any mention of FrüCon from them. Just curious - --Angie again ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1998 17:07:13 GMT From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors) Subject: Re: [Katonah addendum/King of Spain] > ( _Imagine Jian's wandering, while his mouth is engaged._) > > oooh, i'm just gonna leave that one right alone... but thank you ever so much > for putting such evil thoughts in my head ;^} I'm at least glad I wasn't the only one who went there. :) >> Well, if I didn't have a dream to write about in the "I Dream Of Jeannie" thread before I am SURE I will tonight (and will rename it "I Dream of Jiannie"). Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:31:48 GMT From: Amy Schrader Subject: beatle covers?