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alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, November 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 017



                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
  Tom Lehrer too?   (was Re: FruHead X-Philes)  [Chad Schrock <chad@radix.ne]
  Re: rainbow connection]                       [jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)]
  Re: rainbow connection]                       [jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)]
  Re: Fruvous Etiquette               [Lynne Fisher <lfisher@bgnet.bgsu.edu>]
  Re: Has anyone ever noticed?                [Chad Schrock <chad@radix.net>]
  Re: rainbow connection]            ["Bell-occhio" <nthrbns@netpluscom.com>]
  Re: Tell us: Delaware (11.11 review and narrative)  [sirilyan@my-dejanews.]
  Re: Wilmington review (shrinking!)                  [drea1@my-dejanews.com]
  Re: Talk about Gulf War Moments . . .         [bodaceah@aol.com (Bodaceah)]
  Wilmington Minutiae                        [Jeff Michael <xmrhyde@ibm.net>]
  Re: [re: good people]                         [jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)]
  Re: Bizarre media stuff...                    [jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)]
  Re: Bizarre media stuff...         [Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>]
  Re: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #14  [Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.quee]
  Re: Some serious butt-kissing      [Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>]
  Re: Bizarre media stuff...               [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)]
  Hidden track?????                           [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)]
  Re: Hidden track?????                      [jerry smith <jmsmith@epix.net>]
  Re: Bizarre media stuff...          [ksucy@eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada)]
  Off-topic: Reviews of the Nields' Play and Mousse  ["Adam Hartfield" <adam]
  Re: Hidden track?????                       [bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)]
  Alfred show on Nov. 13                     [jerry smith <jmsmith@epix.net>]
  Re: Bizarre media stuff...                            [petit_chou@juno.com]
  Re: [re: good people]                            [katiewow@my-dejanews.com]
  Re: Off-topic: Reviews of the Nields' Play and Mousse  [katrin@dimensional]

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:11:04 -0500
From: Chad Schrock <chad@radix.net>
Subject: Tom Lehrer too?   (was Re: FruHead X-Philes)

Wrenn wrote:

Organization:  National Audobon Society - Tom Lehrer Chapter -
               Charter Member


poisoning pigeons in the park, huh?

- --
chad at radix dot net	

"Just remember, the cubicle is a coffin with e-mail."
	--Mike Ford, Moxy Fruvous

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 05:22:06 GMT
From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)
Subject: Re: rainbow connection]

>>AUGH!  I am, like, Queen Obsession when it comes to the Princess Bride! 

>As for me, I actually bought it twice

I bought it twice too!  In my case, I bought it, read it loved it, lost it,
bought it again.  I still haven't found my original copy.

~J (also used to be in love with Cary Elwes)
~~~~~~~~~~
"Who will you be when you're finally who you are?  Well, we'll see, won't we? 
But there will be more to be by far"  Greg Simon/"The Great Out There"

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 05:22:06 GMT
From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)
Subject: Re: rainbow connection]

>>AUGH!  I am, like, Queen Obsession when it comes to the Princess Bride! 

>As for me, I actually bought it twice

I bought it twice too!  In my case, I bought it, read it loved it, lost it,
bought it again.  I still haven't found my original copy.

~J (also used to be in love with Cary Elwes)
~~~~~~~~~~
"Who will you be when you're finally who you are?  Well, we'll see, won't we? 
But there will be more to be by far"  Greg Simon/"The Great Out There"

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 05:15:56 GMT
From: Lynne Fisher <lfisher@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Fruvous Etiquette

I already started a lil something, I havent looked at Frucon2.html, tho.  I
was thinking more of who is planning on attending, how people are getting
htere, where they are staying... etc..
It is still a project in the works, but feedback and suggestions, even info
is encouraged.
http://www.zeal.net/~lynne


>The FruCon2 Web Page is on FDC and already has a preregistration email
>addie. Check out http://www.fruvous.com/frucon2.html for some beginnings
>of the Con planning. I'm sure whenever things get decided info will pop
>up there for all to see.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:08:17 -0500
From: Chad Schrock <chad@radix.net>
Subject: Re: Has anyone ever noticed?

Srm9988n@aol.com wrote:

> I think he commented that he felt very safe there.  And as the
> Dave-agent I think he woulda asked if he wanted to.
>
> Besides, he didn't have to look at Bobby Clarke and his dentists.  :)

That's right!

He got to look at the (much more stylish and better 
looking[1]) DC Fruheads.  :)



[1] - in the same sense that members of DNRC are much better
      looking than the average.   :P

- --
chad at radix dot net	

"Just remember, the cubicle is a coffin with e-mail."
	--Mike Ford, Moxy Fruvous

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 07:28:11 GMT
From: "Bell-occhio" <nthrbns@netpluscom.com>
Subject: Re: rainbow connection]

>
>uh-oh. it's an obsession war.  i was princess buttercup for halloween for
>three years straight.  i wrote a letter to the publisher requesting the


I had a dog named Westley,a black dog (naturally!), registered with the AKC
as "Dread Pirate
Roberts". I loved finding people I didn't have to explain that to...



inconceivably, Lace

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              "and the silence here is written/it’s the holiest you’ve ever
seen
  these two just bookends/to the spaces in between" Eddie From Ohio
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 07:57:29 GMT
From: sirilyan@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Tell us: Delaware (11.11 review and narrative)

In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.981113125606.1385A-100000@alpha.bgsu.edu>,
  Sheryl Stoller <sheryls@bgnet.bgsu.edu> wrote:
> the Car of Slack? is this where we worship bob, and listen to the Hour of
> Slack?
>
> /me always wanted a shirt that says "Moxy Fruvous must have SLACK!" and a
> pic of cal with a pipe in his mouth :)

The next folk festival I go to, I want to know dozens of people who all want
to be around me so I can make a Dobbshead on a stick to be our landmark, and
then on the last night of the festival we can KILL HIM.

8661, baby.  8661.

- -D., who can prove his middle name is "Bob".

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:43:08 GMT
From: drea1@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: Wilmington review (shrinking!)

 So, Murray, if you're reading this:
> yes, we know you're "the quiet one," but we still love seeing you when
> you do come out and mingle!

  From personal experience, it's always the "quiet ones" you have to watch
out for *lol* Having been on the 'receiving end' (I suppose you could call
it) of Murray's evil sense of humour, he's definitely someone who proves the
rule! Example: at the Thunder Bay show in November of last year, I ended
being both a spectator (of Murray vs Cal (or was it Marcus?)) and a player
(with Murray as the spectator) of the video racing game in the bar. After the
show I went to talk to the guys (for the first time)...and the first thing
out of Murray's mouth was "So, did your driving improve?" with an *evil* grin
on his face. He just *looks* innocent *lol*! (Which reminds me...Murray, you
and I have some unfinished video game business from Saskatoon..I want that
rematch! ;>)

  Drea

"I said, 'Hey, flirt with this, I am a certified hardcore *bitch*'" - Jess
Klein


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Date: 14 Nov 1998 13:39:14 GMT
From: bodaceah@aol.com (Bodaceah)
Subject: Re: Talk about Gulf War Moments . . .

>and say a prayer or have a meditation--whatever it is your
>prefer; think about the men who are travelling to Iraq as we speak, think
>about our legislators,

Me i'll be praying for the innocent men women and children of Iraq  who will
once again, though hopefully not, be caught in the crossfire of stupid boys
playing with war toys.

       jude

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:50:53 -0500
From: Jeff Michael <xmrhyde@ibm.net>
Subject: Wilmington Minutiae

Forgot to point out: did anybody else catch Mike's "I can su-per size
that" reference to TMBG's I Can Hear You, from Factory Showroom?

I asked Mike about my prized camera-in-The-Drinking-Song trivia...and he
knew nothing about it!  Never heard it, could hardly believe it.  I
wanted to tell him how many seconds in it is (1:31, I think), or play it
right then and there for him if I could have, but I started to feel a
little Mark-David-Chapman-esque, so I let it go.

- --
Jeff Michael

"Information gladly given, but safety requires avoiding unnecessary
conversation."--Official notice on MUNI's Judah line, San Francisco

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 14:29:49 GMT
From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)
Subject: Re: [re: good people]

>"You can't not be on a boat." 
>"I've frequently not been on boats."
>"Nono, what you've been is not on boats." -- Rosencrantz and Guldenstern

I just had to say how much I love R&G.

"What a shambles!  We're just not getting anywhere, not even England.  I don't
believe in it anyway."
"In what?"
"England."
"Just a conspiracy of cartographers you mean?"

yay!
~Joni
~~~~~~~~~~
"Who will you be when you're finally who you are?  Well, we'll see, won't we? 
But there will be more to be by far"  Greg Simon/"The Great Out There"

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 14:40:42 GMT
From: jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe)
Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff...

>:Oh yeah, how about the MST3K contingent?

I'm afraid I'm not a Bab5 or much of a Red Dwarf fan (my früfriend Mara is
though.)  But, I do_love_  MST3K.  I miss it being on TV, but  survive off old
tapes of it.

~J
~~~~~~~~~~
"Who will you be when you're finally who you are?  Well, we'll see, won't we? 
But there will be more to be by far"  Greg Simon/"The Great Out There"

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 14:30:29 GMT
From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff...

JennCyn <jenncyn@aol.com> wrote:
: How about Red Dwarf fans?  There must be some in this crowd.  :)

Yeah for Red Dwarf!  And Fruvous, and Muppets and Princess Bride, 
and Quantum Leap.  And don't forget Doctor Who.... :)

Sara
_______

The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat.

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 14:36:37 GMT
From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #14

McCown <mccown@op.net> wrote:
: Oooooh!!! Me me me!!! I used to have a t-shirt and everything (but I
: outgrew it and I think it got thrown out :().  My parents and I were
: discussing the other day that Fruvous ought to cover "Tongue Tied" from
: the episode "Parallel Universe."  (I knew I could find Fru-content)

Would you believe...that I (and 2 VERY good friends) once
did an air-band to Tongue Tied - we memorized all the "moves".
Wow - I'm glad someone recorded that moment of videotape! :)

Sara
_______

The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat.

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 14:34:49 GMT
From: Revell Sara E <4ser4@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: Some serious butt-kissing

krista-dawn@home.com wrote:
: Unfortunately, I've felt quite uncomfertable posting here in the past,
: because I sometimes get the impression that everyone else knows each
: other personally, and then there's me. (Not that I've ever felt
: *unwelcome* here, please don't take it that way.) Out of curiousity: is
: there anyone here who hasn't personally met any fellow ng-ers?

Yep, I've been lurking/semi-posting here for 2 years, and 
I only know one person in real life on the NG!  So, don't
feel left out - if you love Fruvous, then you are always welcome!

Sara
_______

The secret of life: breathe in, breathe out, repeat.

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:28:19 GMT
From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)
Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff...

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 02:21:32 GMT, drea1@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>
>> How about Red Dwarf fans?  There must be some in this crowd.  :)
>
>  Red Dwarf!!!! :) I got introduced to that show my first year of university
>(live in a res with a bunch of electrical engineering students and you get
>introduced to lots of things *lol*!) Cat's my favourite character: "I'm gonna
>eat you little fishy!"
>   Actually, while we're on the topic of British SF shows, how many people are
>Dr. Who fans, and which is your favourite Doctor? (Mine's Tom Baker)
>
>  Drea
>
>"I said, 'Hey, flirt with this, I am a certified hardcore *bitch*'" - Jess
>Klein
>
>"Thunder Bay in *November*? <wince>" - Cal (10/31/98)
>
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When I was young my father and I were huge Dr. Who fans.  I miss it
terribly.  They don't show it anymore around here that I know of.
Haven't for years.  I wish I could afford to buy all the videotapes
out there. 

My favorite was also Tom Baker.  Oh, now I'm all nostalgic for Dr.
Who...


Andrea K.

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 15:33:05 GMT
From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)
Subject: Hidden track?????

Okay, slightly new (and I'm sure it will be brief) thread here, hoping someone
can help me out ... 

Bought a Dan Bern CD yesterday (50 Eggs) so I could be somewhat familiar with
his music when I see him at The Bottom Line (after first listen I like it but
he's no Fruvous) and noticed that while the CD only lists 12 songs, there's a
13th at the end ... which, coincidentally, I liked the best of all the tracks.

Anyway, here's the question ... I seem to recall vaguely hearing or reading
about a hidden track on one of the Fruvous CDs and am wondering
where/what/etc.? Was this just a Fruvous dream (in which case I could add it to
that other thread)? Can I get info, directions, clues a la a Treasure Hunt?

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment here. 

Lisa

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:58:00 -0500
From: jerry smith <jmsmith@epix.net>
Subject: Re: Hidden track?????

Hey, organ grinder!  At the end of Sad today, Wood album.  6:24 into track 11.


Tom Smith

BBWMinors wrote:

> Okay, slightly new (and I'm sure it will be brief) thread here, hoping someone
> can help me out ...
>
> Bought a Dan Bern CD yesterday (50 Eggs) so I could be somewhat familiar with
> his music when I see him at The Bottom Line (after first listen I like it but
> he's no Fruvous) and noticed that while the CD only lists 12 songs, there's a
> 13th at the end ... which, coincidentally, I liked the best of all the tracks.
>
> Anyway, here's the question ... I seem to recall vaguely hearing or reading
> about a hidden track on one of the Fruvous CDs and am wondering
> where/what/etc.? Was this just a Fruvous dream (in which case I could add it to
> that other thread)? Can I get info, directions, clues a la a Treasure Hunt?
>
> Thanks in advance for any enlightenment here.
>
> Lisa

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:08:57 -0500
From: ksucy@eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada)
Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff...

In article <Pine.GSO.3.95q.981113130624.14872A-100000@iquest7>, Dagonet
<brightriver@iquest.net> wrote:

> OK. We have the X-Filers (which I'm not). We have the Muppet aficionados
> (which I am). We have the Dark Crystal fans (which I am, but I need a
> copy; it's been a while since I saw it).

I've seen quite a few Terry Pratchett fans at shows:  every time I bring a
Pratchett book, it seems, someone comments on it.  There was the Lilac
Festival, as well, where I was the first person in line and Andi A. was
second...we both took our stage Dave positions, sat down, dug out our
books, and opened up our copies of Good Omens, by Gaiman and Pratchett.  In
case you were wondering, no, this wasn't planned.  Of course, it's a really
really really good book. :D

I know Doug noticed my copy of Wyrd Sisters at NoHo.  Any other
PTerry/Fruvous crossover fans that I haven't met?

I'm still looking for the anime/Fruvous crossover fans.  THOSE are the
folks I've gotta meet.

- -kimberly/shil/kris's mom

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:06:49 GMT
From: "Adam Hartfield" <adamh@javanet.com>
Subject: Off-topic: Reviews of the Nields' Play and Mousse

OK, I know this is off-topic, but I know a lot of us Frufans are fans of the
Nields, too. Plus, the review of Play mentions both the Muppets *and* Patsy
Cline!  And the reviewer owns three stuffed platypi! I just had to post it;
I couldn't help myself.

From http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0196.html#entry1. Copied without
permission, unfortunately. Copyright © 1998, glenn mcdonald.

- --Adam
adamh@javanet.com
===========================

The Nields: Play


Having had an extra year to think about it, while the 1997 Guardian reissue
of 1996's Gotta Get Over Greta impeded the Nields' recorded, if not
commercial, progress, I've managed to isolate the four aspects of their
character that intrigue me most, just in time for their third album, Play,
to reinforce these exact four impressions with a dizzying precision.

First, the Nields are one of the few folk groups I actually like better as a
rock band. In the universe of genre cross-overs, this is usually one I
resent, Patty Griffin's electrified Flaming Red being the most recent
demonstration. (Clannad's shiny synth-pop album Sirius and Maria McKee's
bracing Life Is Sweet are the only two counter-examples I can think of
quickly.) The Nields, however, manage to construe rock as a natural
extension of their enthusiasm for performing, it seems to me, not a product
of any conscious affectation or calculated market ploy. The clattering drums
and buzzing guitar of "Georgia O" sound like a family sing-along derailed by
a fit of Halloween-candy sugar-high hyperactivity. "Snowman" leaps from
Suzanne Vega-like restraint to its howling chorus as if realizing that even
the quietest, smallest forms of desperation can make you completely crazy if
you focus on them. Dave Chalfant's fuzzy bass runs and David Nields' choppy
rhythm guitar on "The Art of the Gun" are like arena rock blasted at the
rec-room wallpaper, and the cacophonous two-minute instrumental reprise,
"Nugehtfotra" (read it backwards), is a pure lighters-aloft jam. "Friday at
the Circle K" is giddy pop halfway to the B-52s. Katryna's megaphone vocals
on "Train" squawk arrestingly, but have all the menace of your
eight-year-old daughter calling you to an imaginary tea-party. Jittery drums
and frenzied bass shore up the otherwise plaintive "Jennifer Falling Down".
The fractured "Tomorrowland" whips from Pixies-ish thrash to hopscotch-rhyme
twitch to a surging stair-step-chord howl. Flaming Red saddens me because it
sounds like Patty trading her most irreplaceable talent for a bunch of easy
skills out of which less gifted people are already making uninspiring
careers. The Nields, conversely, sounds more like themselves, to me, the
louder they get.
Second, and I think this is a big part of the reason that the Nields'
version of rock refuses to collapse into any of the existing, seductive
clichés for me, their music retains a sense of childhood playfulness that
most rock groups usually beat out of their style with the frightened
assiduousness that previous generations reserved for lynchings. When Nerissa
and Katryna sing, I hear, and I think they hear, too, echoes of the joke
songs they memorized when they were six, running through the rock songs they
thought up in their twenties. They're in the radio reverence of "Georgia O",
the goofy strip-mall fantasies of "Friday at the Circle K", the lurching
mock-rap of "Check It Out" and the nonsense chants and sprinting rhymes of
"Tomorrowland". There is a continuum between "Free to Be" and "Freebird",
however obdurately most male bands try to deny it. The Nields' version of
rock is how Pearl Jam might have turned out if they'd grown up as Muppets,
and I certainly don't have a glut of other records that sound like that.

Third, Katryna and Nerissa's voices blend in a way that I'm not sure "blend"
is really the right word for. Although I think they're capable of soothing,
conventional harmonies, they must not like them, as their duets on these
songs almost always find one (sometimes both) of them delegated to a part
that is either hair-raisingly shrill, or so violently vibratoed that it's
hard to tell where the center of the pitch range is supposed to be any more.
Katryna performs the verses of "Georgia O" in a clipped, impish chirp, and
the flailing choruses sound like an owl and a sheep rehearsing for a punk
musical of some of Aesop's more judgmental fables. The hushed verses of
"Snowman" sound more than a little like Aimee Mann, but Nerissa wails her
half of the choruses like she's auditioning for Heart. The oblique harmonies
on "Last Kisses" are heir to the Story and the Indigo Girls, and the
bleating, luckless refrains of "Nebraska" sound like Patsy Cline fighting
through either a nervous breakdown, or anthrax. "Tomorrowland" skips from
one vocal personality to another like a three-minute pantomime survey of
Dickens. If you hate the Nields, the sisters' voices will probably be why.
Somebody encouraged them, when they were very young, and they've long since
stopped being self-conscious about how they sound. I find that the more
abrasively they sing, the more I enjoy it, but I should note that I still
fondly remember a bowl of chili I had, when I was ten, that was so spicy it
made my nose bleed.

And fourth, also in keeping with the atypical familial flavor of the Nields
music, Nerissa's lyrics (they're usually hers, occasionally her husband
David's) are laced with a persistent empathy that people who didn't grow up
inventing stories and wishing they were in them sometimes never master.
"Georgia O" is a anxious mixture of sexual tension, artistic distance and
personality-cult yearning. "I don't care about your lover. / I won't make
her go away.", promises the narrator of "In the Hush Before the Heartbreak",
trying to find any way around the inevitable. "I'm a snowman, / Cold is all
I understand", goes Nerissa's wail in "Snowman", and the strain in her voice
seems to me like her frantic realization of how isolated she's allowed
herself to become. Most of "Last Kisses" could be the reverse camera angle
on Del Amitri's "Driving With the Brakes On", or 'til tuesday's "Coming Up
Close", or any of the dozen other fading-relationship songs set in cars, but
this one's chorus is a moment of complete emotional collapse, although I
can't quite tell whether "These are my last kisses" is resignation or
resolution. "Nebraska" compresses two whole lives of abandoned dreams and
retracted horizons into a single sigh of geography, and a stranger who
either sees beauty in the singer's face, or death, or maybe both. "I've been
twirling around in circles to see which was my better half", explains
"Jennifer Falling Down", which is perhaps more self-awareness than the
narrator has earned, but a good theory for why obsessive self-analysis
doesn't always lead anywhere. And although much of this sounds sad, the
gleam in the Nields' eye gives itself away in the middle of "Tomorrowland",
where Katryna spins out of "Everyone's got twenty-five lovers", in a
description of paradise, into an ebullient "And each of them dreams only of
me!" Even telling sad stories can be fun. And perhaps, one step further,
even living through sad stories can be joyful.




The Nields: 'Mousse


Play is the new Nields album you can buy in stores, but if you go to their
shows, or their web site, you can also buy 'Mousse (a dubious contraction of
"pamplemousse", itself a dubious spelling of the name of an oversized
grapefruit, whose significance eludes me), their other 1998 album, this one
an eighteen-track collection of demos and out-takes spanning the band's
four-year history. "Julia (Not Julia)" and "Blind", the two earliest
inclusions, sound embryonic to me at best, with hints of the band's sound,
but little of their essential playfulness. By the next group, though, the
slinky "Waco Lake", the wistful "39 Orange Street" and the snarling
"Kamikaze" are all showing signs of mischief, and the spare, sinister
"Dictator" stretches out into an expansive rock sprawl. "I Hate MCI" is a
pure joke-song.

As the chronology slides past Gotta Get Over Greta, the songs start sounding
much more like sketches and experiments for Play to me. "Cool in the
Backseat" is bouncy, but can't quite find its harmonic frequency. The bluesy
"Monster" is too dark and unsettling for the album, although I'm guessing
the chorus could have been reworked to brighten it. "Stainless Steel" sounds
like a cross between Lisa Germano and Tanya Donelly, which also isn't the
mood of Play, but is a fine, quiet mood of its own. "Living It Up in the
Garden" and "Giving Them Back to Susan" are relatively straightforward folk
songs, with bits in both that remind me of Joni Mitchell. "I'll Meet You in
the Sky" is like the bass line from the Pretenders' "Time the Avenger" given
a second life as a sing-along.
The highlights of this set, though, for me, are the first, middle and final
songs. 'Mousse opens with "Daddy's Little Girl", a simultaneously poignant
and sly coming-out anthem that could easily have fit in on Play, musically,
although possibly it would have biased the album's theme too much. The
middle song is a charming live rendition of the mock-blues number
"Einstein's Daughter", one of the three songs added to the Guardian version
of Gotta Get Over Greta. And the final track is the one that could
single-handedly justify the collection, for me. A miniature concert unto
itself, complete with two-bar solos and a fly-by medley of "Smoke on the
Water" and "Tequilla", "Superhero Soup" is a children's song (starring
Nicholas Ridiculous and Michael Motorcycle) for which a Saturday
morning TV-series ought to be created just so this can be its theme.

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Date: 14 Nov 1998 16:10:10 GMT
From: bbwminors@aol.com (BBWMinors)
Subject: Re: Hidden track?????

Thank you so much!!!!! Okay, stupid me, I just thought that was part of Sad
Today. (A strange part, but then again, this IS Moxy). 

Lisa

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:21:47 -0500
From: jerry smith <jmsmith@epix.net>
Subject: Alfred show on Nov. 13

Being my first show, I have nothing to compare it to, other than the
CDs.  It rocked, to say the least.  The 10 people that I lugged along
are at least marginally Fruheads, now.  The only down side to this
performance was that there were some unruly college students giving the
fruboys a slight amount of problems, but the lads put the offenders in
their place.  The opening band, in my opinion, was just bad.
The crowd seemed pretty geared to the band, some of whom had seen
Fruvous in concert prior to last night.  The inter-song banter of the
band was outrageous.  "The canadian military is fighting this year 2000
bug with a plan called "Operation Abacus"."  Also they did a bit about
nasa sending human remains into space to observe the effects of a 0-g
environment.  (George Burns, and Thomas Jefferson were chosen for this
fatefull journey.)


Tom Smith

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:33:26 GMT
From: petit_chou@juno.com
Subject: Re: Bizarre media stuff...

I'm by no means a "hardcore" ANIME fan, but I've seen my share, and was
into it well before Fruvous (sorry).  Does anyone remember how we used to
get poorly dubbed anime on Saturday mornings?  Star
Blazers...Voltron...those were the good ol' days.

Heather Moore

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 09:08:57 -0500 ksucy@eznet.net (Shilfiell Nels Rada)
writes:

>I'm still looking for the anime/Fruvous crossover fans.  THOSE are the
>folks I've gotta meet.
>
>-kimberly/shil/kris's mom
>

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:52:11 GMT
From: katiewow@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Re: [re: good people]

In article <19981114092949.16764.00000416@ng-fb1.aol.com>,
  jianbabe@aol.com (JianBabe) wrote:
> >"You can't not be on a boat."
> >"I've frequently not been on boats."
> >"Nono, what you've been is not on boats." -- Rosencrantz and Guldenstern
>
> I just had to say how much I love R&G.
>
> "What a shambles!  We're just not getting anywhere, not even England.  I don't
> believe in it anyway."
> "In what?"
> "England."
> "Just a conspiracy of cartographers you mean?"
>
> yay!

"well, it wouldn't be quite like living in a box.  you wouldn't know you were
in the box." :Þ

> ~Joni
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> "Who will you be when you're finally who you are?  Well, we'll see, won't we?
> But there will be more to be by far"  Greg Simon/"The Great Out There"
>
>

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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:07:42 -0700
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin Luessenheide Salyers)
Subject: Re: Off-topic: Reviews of the Nields' Play and Mousse

In article <007901be0fe8$238f3650$ae01030a@brunnhilde.artioslink.com>, 
adamh@javanet.com says...

(I'll leave this in for all the legal mumbo-jumbo reasons...)
> From http://www.furia.com/twas/twas0196.html#entry1. Copied without
> permission, unfortunately. Copyright © 1998, glenn mcdonald.

> Katryna's megaphone vocals
> on "Train" squawk arrestingly, but have all the menace of your
> eight-year-old daughter calling you to an imaginary tea-party. 

I think I mentioned to Dave C. that Katryna onstage *is* the 
reincarnation of Gilda Radner's "Judy Miller". (I meant it as a 
compliment.)

> Most of "Last Kisses" could be the reverse camera angle
> on Del Amitri's "Driving With the Brakes On", or 'til tuesday's "Coming Up
> Close"

Wow, I'd never thought of that, and yes, he's exactly right, and even 
makes references to music I *know*!

I've been listening to "Play" a lot lately (it's the only Nields CD I 
have) and it's really been growing on me like a fungus. "Georgia O" is my 
current power song (you go, girl) and nothing's more fun than to screech 
along with "Snowman" at the top of my lungs when no one else is home. And 
one of these days soon, "Innertube" has to go on a mix tape to send to my 
sisters, just to fill *their* heads with memories of Susie and Martha and 
our other friends and all those weekends at the lake.

> I should note that I still
> fondly remember a bowl of chili I had, when I was ten, that was so spicy it
> made my nose bleed.

There's your Frü-content...? :)

k@
Oh, I'll just shut up and listen to the darn thing now.

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