From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #9 Reply-To: ammf@fruvous.com Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, November 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Good people [Josh Drury ] Re: Video killed the King of Spain? [duncan@interlog.com (Duncan)] Re: SPEAKING OF OPINIONS [Lynne Fisher ] Re: rainbow connection! [Lynne Fisher ] Re: Fruvous Etiquette [Chad Maloney ] Re: Mike's fruweekend review (Rochester + Buffalo) [kdsinthhal@aol.comato] Preach it Rev. Kermit! (was Speaking of opinions) [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: Mike's fruweekend review (Rochester + Buffalo) [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: rainbow connection! [katiewow@my-dejanews.com] Re: Videa killed the King of Spain? [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.que] Re: FruHead X-Philes [petit_chou@juno.com] Re: Tragically Hip? [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca>] Re: Wilmington review (long) [Alan Sigman ] Re: rainbow connection! [jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn)] Re: rainbow connection! [katiewow@my-dejanews.com] Laura Love Lyrics [cos@polyamory.org (Ofer Inbar)] Re: Fruvous Etiquette [jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause)] Re: Tell us: Delaware (11.11 review and narrative) [epbuckley@my-dejanews] hitchhiker's guide to frvous [katiewow@my-dejanews.com] Irving Plaza [bbowen8@my-dejanews.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:33:34 -0600 From: Josh Drury Subject: Re: Good people Richard Butterworth wrote: > > Josh Drury wrote: > > > wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > > > Blanket statements like "most people are dumb", are pretty easy to dismiss. > > > > But most people *are* dumb, it doesn't take a scientific study to tell > > you this, if you normally pay attention to those around you when you're > > in public. > > Sigh. No. Any scientific study will tell you most people are average. > No, I didn't mean it as a relative statement, which would by definition give the answer that the average intelligence level of the population is the population's average intelligence level. I meant it as an absolute: Most people are dumb, judging by the fact that they do dumb things, make dumb remarks, post dumb messages (yes, I am aware of the irony), watch dumb shows, etc. Who among us can say they have done nothing dumb in the past 24 hours? Exactly. In fact, I'll amend my previous statement: ALL people are dumb, just to varying extents. Fair enough? Josh Drury Winnipeg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:15:29 -0400 From: duncan@interlog.com (Duncan) Subject: Re: Video killed the King of Spain? > MM already made a Spotlight on Fruvous in 1995. The videos for KoS, Authors, > Stuck in the 90's, Fell in Love and Down From Above, plus snippets of > interviews in between (the regular Spotlight format). There wouldn't be much > to add now aside from more interviews, Fly, and Get in the Car (not that I > would mind). My personal favourite FruSpotlight moment is the Tall New > Buildings video. I have that song popping in my head every now and then :) Do you guys think it would be possible to get this program on Much if we all start asking for it at the same time? Will they think its a new wave? My friend from Houston spent a couple of weeks here in Toronto with his Aunt. I think he spent most of his time watching Much. Anyway, I decided that I should bring hi to the Mel Lastman Square concert, which he enjoyed. That night he told me that he had saw them in concert on Much just a few weeks before. Does anyone know anything about this? Adam Duncan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:48:31 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: SPEAKING OF OPINIONS Kermie!!!! Rainbow Connection! One of my favorite artists of all time! I just taped this song off of TV (uh oh, shhh, don't tell) Cheers to, um, "Novac" Hmm, Fruvous does green eggs & ham.. think they should try this one too? - -Lynne >Why are there so many songs about rainbows >And what's on the other side? >Rainbows are visions, but only illusions, >And rainbows have nothing to hide. >So we've been told and some choose to believe it >I know they're wrong, wait and see. >Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection, >The lovers, the dreamers and me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:05:58 GMT From: Lynne Fisher Subject: Re: rainbow connection! >What I find interesting, though, is the amazingly high number of us in >the Fr¸-fan crowd that are Muppet/Henson aficionados. To me it "only >makes sense" in that both Fr¸vous and the Muppets are cool, cute, smart >etc...but there's gotta be more to it than that. I wonder what the exact >connection is. (It also occurs to me that Muppet-appreciation level could >be a useful factor in predicting the conversion success rate of >prospective new fans.) I personally relate to Kermit in a few ways. Such a wonderful, nice little frog, just trying to do his best, good intentioned and sometimes getting trampled or thrown into the air (gone w/ the Schwinn) or dissed by the pig. I think we can relate to the realness of Kermie's personality as we can to the realness of Fruvous... and the care they show to us, their fans. They are just so nice! :) - -Lynne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:04:52 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Fruvous Etiquette Angie Armstrong wrote: > I'm 5'6," and rather conscious of my height so I don't want to block anyone, > but in the meantime I'm behind someone 2x as wide as me or with big hair or > something like that (and the people who don't dance... how can you _not_ dance > at a Fruvous concert??). The last time a friend and I encountered that and > asked if the very tall person could shift a few feet, his response was less > than comforting... to say the least. Here's my take on this. Note that I'm 6'6" and I like to stand near the stage as much as the next guy. This is how I go about doing and not feeling completely horrible. I get there early. I get there before the opening act. I usually get there when doors open. I go straight to the spot where I want to see the show from and I stand there. I stand there and watch the opener. I stand there and watch Cal setup. I stand there and watch all the annoying people who arrive right before Fruvous and act like they deserve a front row spot. When someone who just got there bullies their way up near my and tries to get by, I don't enjoy that at all. When someone comes and stands behind me and then starts complaining loudly, I'll turn a deaf ear because I've already been standing there for 2 hours and if that wasn't enough warning that I'm tall and I'm gonna be standing right here, I don't know what it. Here's my hint. Get there at a reasonable time. Don't expect people to allow you to waltz up to the stage during the opening note of Sahara. Also, be friendly and meet new people. I know I meet a lot of people because they get to the show and end up behind this huge hulking mass that is me and start up polite conversation. We talk for awhile and I get to know them and they get to know me and then they ask politely if they could possibly squeeze ahead of me to see and sometimes I let them and other times I explain that I got here really early and I don't mean to see like an ogre out to ruin everyone's fun. > Secondly, sometimes I get the feeling that the first few feet around the stage > are a "club members only" kind of area... not in a rude way or anything, just > that I feel like I would be intruding in a sacred area or something. What > sort of initiation would I have to go through to learn the password ? ;^) > I've been told to just elbow my way up and make room for myself, but that > isn't really me... I'm not that aggressive. Don't elbow your way up to anything. I know I frown upon people that do that because they aren't respecting anyone else. People that are up front are usually upfront because they got there early and have been waiting patiently to see the show from the spot they are in. If it seems like they all know each other, it is because they've been standing around talking to each other for 2 hours waiting for the show. The best way to get in there is to be nice and talk with people. Frufans are generally good people and nice to meet and willing to talk. Anyways, that's my take on the whole crowd etiquette thing. If you've been stuck behind me at a show, you'll probably disagree with me. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 1998 21:27:44 GMT From: kdsinthhal@aol.comatose (KdsInThHal) Subject: Re: Mike's fruweekend review (Rochester + Buffalo) >It pains me to no end that I missed a Fruvous cover of Train in Vain. heh, this topic caused me to pull out london calling again. good stuff. :) sarah linnellgirl@tmbg.org http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/ "i'm a suuuperstar in a superstar machine!" -- david cross (singing), mr. show "You gonna fall asleep with your glasses on? Are you really that punk rock?" -- a sloan fan-fic ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:30:21 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Preach it Rev. Kermit! (was Speaking of opinions) You are so cute! ; ) Heather Moore On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:23:05 -0500 "Novac" writes: >Let's take a break from all this loud, all-caps stuff and reflect on >these >lyrics, shall we? ...song song song... >Laa, da daa dee da daa daa, >La laa la la laa dee daa doo... > >Have a great day, fellow fruheads. >--Novac ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:29:57 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: Mike's fruweekend review (Rochester + Buffalo) It pains me to no end that I missed a Fruvous cover of Train in Vain. *sigh* Heather Moore On 12 Nov 1998 14:57:28 GMT kdsinthhal@aol.comatose (KdsInThHal) writes: >>that song from NoHo with the "stand by me" >>chorus... by the Clash? > >"train in vain." ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:00:24 GMT From: katiewow@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: rainbow connection! i have never considered a correlation between my muppets and moxy obsessions . . . but now i can't listen to any moxy song without thinking of the muppets. see what you people do to me ?!?!?!?! :) ~~kate - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 1998 18:47:22 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Videa killed the King of Spain? I'd like to voice my incredible bitterness at Much More Music. When I saw the ads for it, I thought WOW! A musci station that plays something worth listening to/watching. WRONG! There are only so many times that one person can watch Leonard Cohen's "Closing Time" before losing the one thread of sanity to which they were still clinging. Although, kudos to them for playing BNL's cover of "Lovers in a Dangerous Time" occasionally. (The CD of which I just found - dance of joy) So now I have MuchMusic, Much More Music, and MusiquePlus, and with all of that I've seen "Stuck in the 90's" ONCE!!!!!! Grrrrrr..... :) Veronica - -- ***************************************************************************** And in the end | Veronica Gruneberg The love you take | Dept. of Biology Is equal to the love | Queen's University You make... | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:30:19 GMT From: petit_chou@juno.com Subject: Re: FruHead X-Philes >On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:45:37 -0500, "^kat^" >wrote: >>>> Out of the clear blue, how many Früheads are X-Philes? That would be me. My whole family has been watching the show since episode one. We are proud of that. We stuck with our baby, and here it is - a great big todler that can kick full-grown-show "90210"'s fat arse! Woo hoo! Looking forward to an improvement in the writing/directing, though. That season opener...eh. Love the kid though. I miss the old episodes that were all based on some old horror film (The Thing = the early season Antarctica episode with the pilot named Bear, etc.). It's all government conspiracy schtuff now...sigh. Gimme a good old fashioned Eugene Toombs anyday. (I could not walk down my hallway that night for fear of a man creeping out of my air ducts.) Heather Moore ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 1998 18:40:53 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: Tragically Hip? Ahhhh, the Hip. As someone mentioned, they hail from wonderful (rainy, windy, cold etc., etc.) Kingston Ontario. In fact some of their earlier gigs were performed right here at Queen's University! If memory serves, more than one of them is a graduate of the university. So now we can claim to be the birthplace of the Tragically Hip and of the Arrogant Worms. Interesting combination. And they still live here... in fact, I believe it's Johnny Faye who is the next door neighbour of one of my best friends. As for albums, I love them all, but if you want the very best of the Hip stuff, I'd pick up Fully Completely, the live album. If it only had Wheat Kings it would be perfect... Fruvous connection - The Hip no longer play Kingston (been there, done that). Fruvous also aviods Kingston, much to my dismay. (There, I've done it!) :) Veronica -- ***************************************************************************** And in the end | Veronica Gruneberg The love you take | Dept. of Biology Is equal to the love | Queen's University You make... | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:16:28 GMT From: Alan Sigman Subject: Re: Wilmington review (long) Wow, what a great show in Wilmington!! If that's how the services are all the time at the Unitarian Church, sign me up! Lori has already done a wonderful job telling all about it, so I'll just add a few things... On Thu, 11/12/98, Srm9988n@aol.com (Lori) wrote: >Trace showed up and admired my Flyers jersey while I admired hers; introduced >me to Jim (also Flyer-attired) and we started looking for Alan. Eventually >all four of us staked out the Mur-corner and sat chatting until John >Flynn came onstage. Hey, fellow Flyers fans- thanks for saving me a seat up front! We can't all be there when the doors open. > >After a short intermission, on came the Lads. And they were really >pumped. Jian caught sight of us and just shook his head He really was annoyed by the jerseys, wasn't he? Though he did introduce Dave's accordian solo in Darlington Darling: "special guest on accordian tonight, former Flyers follicly-challenged defenseman Ed Van Impe!" It's true, in addition to Ed's lack of talent, he was also quite lacking in hair. This was back in the days when players didn't wear helmets. Anyway, I was amused, esp. since I had posted a while back how impressed I was that they had mentioned Ed Van Impe a few years back at the Phila Folk Festival. > I Love My Boss off-mic and offstage, with Jian prancing from pew >to pew and the other three lounging against the side wall of the church, >Mike at one point seated in a windowsill reading prayer book. Mike looked like he was trying to climb up onto the windowsill for his verse, but when it came time to sing, he hadn't quite made it all the way up yet, so he just lied across the windowsill and sang the first part, then sat up and improvised a line, something like: "people say that I am clinging, but really my shirt is stuck in the window". Then when Jian paused at the end: "I love my....", Mike picked up a prayer book during the pause and made like he was reading. >At this point they decided that the people in the balcony looked "cute" >sitting up there, as if they were on a space shuttle or something, leading >into an observation that we ought to send John Glenn up again in another >thirty years, just to see how 110-year-olds fare in space. They started by saying that they had heard that John Glenn was opening that night, only to discover it was really John Flynn. They carried the age joke even farther, suggesting that they should send John Glenn's remains into space after he died to see how his remains would fare in space. >Sad Girl, with Dave on the piano -- I like this song better each time I hear >it. Then Boo Time (have a lot of fun in Wilmington -- Delawarian/Upper >Merion) Dave did a little improv when he first sat down at the piano. He was trying to do What a Wonderful World, but sang "what a wonderful life" instead. Also, during the whole wolves-sheep improv, Dave played the theme from Peter & the Wolf on the piano. He also stayed at the piano for Boo Time, instead of using the mini-keyboard. Among the Boo Time rhymes were the first time I had ever heard "Unitarian" rhymed with "rastafarian". Probably the first time "rastafarian" was ever uttered in that building. Speaking of drug references, the guys said they were going to trek to the "lowest highest point" later that night and do LSD, then changed their minds and decided to do mushrooms, more organic. And speaking of "lowest highest point" references, Mike sang a little improv at the piano (maybe during Ob-la-di Ob-la-da? I don't think he sang any of the real lyrics, it was all improvised lyrics) about it being the lowest highest point of his life, the night he threw up in his best friend's kitchen sink. > King of Spain/long GE&H, with Mike playing a good chunk >of O-bla-di O-bla-da and getting the audience to sing along. It wasn't actually the "long" GE&H, just the usual post-KoS arrangement, but the "not the Beatles!" break was extra long. When Mike went to the piano and did Ob-la-di Ob-la-da, Dave took his mike over for him. Then when Jian tried to lead back into GE&H: "so you don't like green eggs and ham?", Dave realized he didn't have his Mike, so there was a pause as he went to the piano (which was on the floor in front of the stage, er, altar) to retrieve his mike. Other Dave lines: "now I vacuum the steps at skydome" and as he pointed in our direction: "now the Flyers call me up to drive the zamboni. Ladies and gentlemen, I introduce to you Bobby Clarke and His Dentists!" > >Then a long improv about "moments" that involved negotiations between >Murray, the neutral agent for Dave, and Jian, the neutral agent for Mike, >because Dave and Mike don't speak to each other but Mur and Jian >get along. Mike wanted Dave to move a foot or two to the left, and Dave >wanted Mike to sing the Rainbow Connection, which somehow morphed >into How Much is that Doggy in the Window in the Murray/Jian >negotiations. (If you followed the logic of that improv, or even of that >sentence, you're good.) Yes, hard to recap that bit, but it was hilarious! They all played their mock roles so convincingly and obviously had a good time with it. Organ Grinder was a surprise for me, and made quite a good set closer. CONGRATULATIONS to Trace for winning the Fruvous jersey!! If it couldn't have been me, I'm glad it was someone I knew (well, I only knew Trace for a couple of hours at that point, but still...) Of course Jian commented he was glad she won because now she would have to take off her Flyers jersey to try on the Fruvous jersey. And Trace, thanks for the wonderful cookies! And thanks to whoever made those deadly chocolate cheescake brownies. And it was nice meeting a few of you from the newsgroup, even chad the Caps fan. One final thought on the Jian vs. The Flyers thing...as much as I love Fruvous, my love affair with that hockey team from Philadelphia goes back a lot farther. I've been going to games since I was 10 years old. So it annoyed me a bit to hear Jian dissing the Flyers, esp. being in the Greater Philadelphia Area. What gives this young Canadian smart aleck the right to come into our territory and put down our local beloved team? But upon reflecting on this, I've decided that while I'm not happy he dislikes my favorite team so much, I'm glad he expresses how he really feels about it, rather than acting like some plastic rock star who says the same lines in every city just to get cheap applause: "It's great to play in , our favorite city in America! And how 'bout those , we're all big fans!" I'll take honesty over that shtick. -Alan ------------------------------ Date: 12 Nov 1998 21:44:19 GMT From: jenncyn@aol.com (JennCyn) Subject: Re: rainbow connection! > Case in point: The members of this > newsgroup and channel are the *only* > bunch of people I've met who don't > respond with bewilderment when I tell > them my cat's name is Fizzgig. lol.... I would say the same, if you weren't the second person I've met (virtually, anyway; the other one I know in person) who has a cat named Fizzgig. ;) Of course, I'm sure Erin would love Fruvous too. - - j, muttering "must convert... must convert" under her breath ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:48:23 GMT From: katiewow@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: rainbow connection! i think it's barney, grover, and kermit. "is barney naked? is nothing sacred?" ~~kate - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:54:49 GMT From: cos@polyamory.org (Ofer Inbar) Subject: Laura Love Lyrics This coincidence has struck me before, but never while I was at a computer, so I haven't ever posted about it. The Laura Love song "Ah Ha Me A Riddle I Day", on the album Helvetica Bold, has these lines: I wrote a little song didn't make much sense You couldn't tell the past from the present tense I made a little record cost immense goodnight ladies and the gents Coincidence? Anyone know? -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@polyamory.org cos@leftbank.com -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- info@wbrs.org http://www.wbrs.org/ "Oh, I forgot, I made a bracelet out of a spoon as well." -- Brynn , 26 March 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:31:26 GMT From: jkpolk@ntplx.net (Andrea Krause) Subject: Re: Fruvous Etiquette On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:37:33 GMT, Angie Armstrong wrote: >here are my dilemmas: >I'm 5'6," and rather conscious of my height so I don't want to block anyone, >but in the meantime I'm behind someone 2x as wide as me or with big hair or >something like that (and the people who don't dance... how can you _not_ dance >at a Fruvous concert??). The last time a friend and I encountered that and >asked if the very tall person could shift a few feet, his response was less >than comforting... to say the least. > >--Angie > This isn't so much a direct response as me just talking about something this made me think about. It just seems to me that at almost every show I go to my happiness gets marred by random people who decide to worm up through the crowd and stand right in front of me. (and almost always, they're taller than I am!) I have no problem with being behind a tall person if that's how it was when everyone got there...that's my decision...made my bed, lie in it, etc. But it makes me so angry when all the time I spend waiting and standing and whining (of course. :) ) is pretty much negated by random acts of rudeness. (Most often it's the intoxicated people who barely know who the acts are.) I very rarely get angry but those incidents get me fuming. ;) AH well, sorry about that. Just me unloading my gripes. Feel my pain! :) (And no, Angie this wasn't directed at you or anything...I'm not mean, really! Your comments about tall people just made me think of it.) Andrea therapy over. Andrea K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:44:08 GMT From: epbuckley@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: Tell us: Delaware (11.11 review and narrative) In article <72f6tb$7ub$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, koogle@clark.net wrote: > As we sat down at the Golden Castle, which I kept wanting to call "Golden > Griddle" over pancakes on the way out of town, Ellen labeled the 11-11 show in > Wilmington's First Unitarian Church "More Talk, Less Rock." Way to go, Ellen. > That sums it up perfectly. thankew. ;) you could have easily gotten away without crediting me for that comment, since until i read this, i couldn't remember what it was i'd said that was so funny. > Drive from Columbia to Wilmington was uneventful except for a little traffic, i am beginning to feel like my little green subaru should just have "on our way to see fruvous" painted on the side of it. but hey, if there's a show within reasonable driving distance, the Car of Slack is ready and willing. > Later in the > show, Jian's assumption that his name was John Glenn led to some great banter > about how he'd just come back from space, and maybe he'd go back to space > when he was 110. you forgot the barry gibb comment. ;) > the crowd. Murray's shirt tonight was a near-spectacular shade of canteloupe, > but its solidness had it midlining on the Murr-o-meter. 5.5. y'know, i was thinking about this, and i have to disagree. i think it rates a 7 for the color alone. it was one of those colors that creeps insidiously into your brain and has you asking yourself, "what do you *call* that color?" and it's a color that i confess to never having seen a person wear, before murray. i also think that we're going to have a hard time scoring on the basis of fabric if we don't get to inspect the shirts a little closer in the future. > Another passage had Murray and Jian doing a riff off Dave's Peter and the > Wolf piano line. They had divided the audience into wolves, sheep and "eeks". i embraced my inner sheep last night. it was liberating. > I think you had to be there. i think that pretty much sums up the entire moxy fruvous experience. > As we pulled into the driveway back in Maryland, we noticed that the moon was > big and yellow, curved into a contented grin of bliss followed. Lots of stars > out, soft cool breeze that smelled of leaves and > grass. see, now, this is why i don't write reviews. i think i described it as a lemon wedge. thanks for the lovely review. the real reason that i don't write reviews is that i'd never remember all these details. that's why i *read* the reviews. ;) peace, ellen - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:32:22 GMT From: katiewow@my-dejanews.com Subject: hitchhiker's guide to frvous in my internet searchings, i ran across "project galactic guide" which offered the following entry for the word "fruvous" (this one is sans umlat [sp?--the two dots ;)]): Project Galactic Guide is a collaborative Internet attempt at creating an electronic reference meant to guide and misguide its readers in matters of life, death, and finding a parking space anywhere in the Universe. Fruvous War, Peace, And Small Dogs (Unreal) By Peter E. Janes , pejanes@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca Dated: 19930925 It is a well-known fact that most intergalactic conflicts are caused by misunderstandings. Many of them would have been easily prevented simply by understanding the nuances of language. In fact, the Babel fish, while making interspecies communication possible, has been named as a catalyst in over 83.792% of wars in the history of the Guide. (Interestingly, a large number of the rest have to do with differing opinions of whether the next century begins January 1, 2000, January 1, 2001, or October 23, 2071.) In the interests of peace, then, the Guide provides a short example of multiple interpretations of the word "Fruvous." Fruvous (froo'ves) appears to have originated on the planet Earth, although its etymology is shrouded in some controversy. One faction devoutly believes that it is a magical monk-baked pastry loaf that was served to evil burgermeisters in the Middle Ages. Other word historians say that Fruvous was a high-stakes Mesopotamian board game, the rules of which have faded into obscurity. The author personally accepts the theory that "Fruvous" is the sound produced when yogurt dollops are dropped in searing liquid. Other connotations include the slightly corrupted "fru-vest," which, as the name suggests, is an article of clothing; a mysterious light similar to St. Elmo's Fire; and a species of small dog with a bird's beak and a reddish coat. The potential for conflict may not be immediately obvious from the above paragraphs. This should be rectified in the following paragraph. The origin of the word Fruvous has recently come into further question with the discovery of evidence confirming the existence of legendary environmental crusader Marion Fruvous. The convictions of Ms. Fruvous were so great that her name has become synonymous with "unflappable." In honour of this historical figure, Fruvous, while being an adjective, is placed after the noun which it describes. For example, a super-unshakable but ultra-cool person might be referred to as a "hoopy Fruvous." It is understandable if, at this point, the hitchhiker who has been following closely still cannot visualize a violent confrontation over the use of Fruvous. While the preceding paragraph was originally designed to clarify the problem, it has succeeded only in elaborating on the unknown origins of the word. Immediately following that explanation is a short tirade (which is currently being read) that will end shortly. Next is the problem. Fruvous can also be used to mean "multi-legged and aural." The alert hitchhiker can quickly see the difficulties when using Fruvous in conversation. With someone unfamiliar with the previous interpretations, a hitchhiker could be seen to be insulting a native's physical manifestation, when a compliment is the intended meaning. This sort of unintentional provocation is exactly what we're talking about. (It should be noted that while "Fruvous" itself has not been known to cause any major conflicts, minor disputes, or even hurt feelings to date, all use is at your own risk. The Guide assumes no liability or responsibility for death, dismemberment, or Revenue Canada audits resulting from the use of "Fruvous.") - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:04:30 GMT From: bbowen8@my-dejanews.com Subject: Irving Plaza Wow! What else can you say about these guys? I've seen quite a few shows over the years and I, nor my friend Mike, could not remember seeing an opening band receive the screaming requests for an encore they gave Fruvous. I was still a little confused about why Moxy was opening for the Violent Femmes and not the other way around. I can only remember the Femmes first album and maybe two songs from 1986. But apparently they've released 8 albums in the last twelve years or so, so they get top billing. Anyway, they combined to easily sell out a nice-sized venue. It looked to me like the crowd was about a 40-60 split. A lot of people there had never seen Moxy before (as evidenced by the usual poll Jian takes). But they won them over. I heard some people behind me saying, "Hey, I like these guys." I got to hear a few new songs I hadn't heard on this tour and I got to talk to Jian and Mike afterwards. Their show itself was pretty hyper-paced with not a whole lot of banter, but it's always funny to watch them incite the crowd by calling them hippies and geeks and throwing around Femme references even Femme-heads may not have picked up on. Mike (Ford) at one point asked if there was any truth to the rumour that they considered changing their name to the "Militant Femmes?" Dave played a great King of Spain and avoided bad puns during the evening as far as I could tell. Jian was unusually humble, probably because they felt outnumbered, but there were plenty of Fru-heads and Fru-jerseys and Fru-buttons and Jason Reiser's microphone to clearly establish a presence. It's always amazing to me with the number of fans they have, the details they remember about you when they see you (I know I'm not the only one). I haven't seen them play since May, and I don't think I've talked to Mike in nearly a year, but he remembered where he last saw me, he remembered dropping my name in BJ Don't Cry that day and he remembered a Fruvous candle my brother made for him three years ago. And they're always like that! A couple of years ago, the guys were asking their fans what we would like to see or what they could do for us. I think that's how the whole Fru-Con thing started. Jian found me after a show and started to ask me that same question, but we were interrupted and I never got to answer. The fact that he was standing there asking me that question was all that any fan could ask for. I don't need Fru-Con, or prizes for travelling to shows (though I would have loved bowling and dancing with Dave). Just a simple, "Hi Bill. How've you been?" And they give me that every single time. Bill Bowen Sahara (non-extended) Half As Much BJ You Will Go To The Moon Minnie the Moocher: "Lyrics 30 minutes before the show or your money back!" (I had no idea Chelsea was a lesbian hooker?!) Get In The Car I Will Hold On King Of Spain Green Eggs and Ham (short) Michigan Militia Johnny Saucep'n Love Potion #9 Medley- Encore: Drinking Song - -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V2 #9 ******************************************