From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #587 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Saturday, September 12 1998 Volume 01 : Number 587 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Songs never heard wish list ["A.J. LoCicero" ] Re: Songs never heard wish list [Summer Young ] Re: Chadadian Cuisine? [Chad Schrock ] **ITINERARY** [Moxy Fruvous ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 17:15:34 GMT From: "A.J. LoCicero" Subject: Re: Songs never heard wish list Summer Young wrote: > > A.J. LoCicero wrote: > > > The appropriately named Summer Young wrote: > > Why, may I ask, is this name appropriate for me (not that I can change, and > I won't even when I can) ? Oh, it just struck me as funny Some-are-young get it? (This being connected to the subject of my post.) No offense was intended. > You are correct. I was not around when the song was "a nation-wide anthem". I > was recommended the movie by a friend who is now in his late 20's. I, however, > have only seen and heard the song once (a couple years ago), which is why (as I > mentioned in my other post relating to this) I never should've opened my big > mouth before having my facts straight. Thank you as well for letting me know > why I tasted foot. :) I certainly didn't mean to belabor (or even belabour)a point about your misunderstanding. When I posted my original remark, I had seen no other corrections posted. The point about the age thing, is that you think of Alice's Restaurant as a song from a movie (because that is your experience of it) as opposed to a song made into a movie (which is what it in fact was). > > > Anyone who doesn't know Alice's Restaurant by heart BTW, should go to the > > nearest library or Record store and obtain a copy to listen to and learn. > > It is without a doubt one of the most important songs written in the 20th > > century. > > > > I am, in fact, going to try to get to the video store this weekend. The local > vidoe store has better stuff than all those big chains. The movie is cool (by all means go rent it again), but that is not what "Alice's Restaurant" is about. (Go buy The album if you just want to hear the song.) Practically everyone in the country used to know that song, because it was probably the most artful and articulate protest to come out of the Viet Nam War. As time has gone on, younger generations have had less reason to know about the song, and sometimes even when they do, they fail to understand all of the context in which it was originally sung and the multiple textures and meanings that it evokes. (Can you tell that I REALLY like this song?) :) That you were coming at it as a song from a movie, and that you got confused at the frushow, because you'd only seen the movie once a long time ago, struck me as supremely funny. I've known that song practically by heart since I was 7 years old, I only saw the movie a few years ago, and I've only seen it once too. To me your saying that you didn't remember the song very well because you'd only seen the movie once was almost like a non-sequitur. It made me laugh, and that generated the Summer Young comment. > (Anyone ever seen "The > Rutles"? That some good stuff!!) Of course! It aired for the first time as a television special when I was in like 7th or 8th grade. And I immediately went out and bought the record. It was all the rage among my friends (Who were all intense Beatle fans.) I actually preferred The Rutles to the Beatles for a while and used to get into arguments of the "who's better" variety. I was absolutely tickled when I realized that Rikki Fattar (or however he spells it) who plays Stig O'Hara was the same Rikki Fattar who was with the Beach Boys (another favorite of mine at the time) during much of the Seventies. Ok so I'm weird. A.J. - -- One of life's tragedies: Given her parentage, Canada could have had American know-how, French culture, and British government. Instead she wound up with British know-how, French Government, and American culture. _____ _ / ____(_) | | _ ___ ___ _ __ ___ | | | |/ __/ _ \ '__/ _ \ | |____| | (_| __/ | | (_) | \_____|_|\___\___|_| \___/ @wwnet.com ICQ#: 13117113 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:13:26 -0400 From: Summer Young Subject: Re: Songs never heard wish list A.J. LoCicero wrote: > The appropriately named Summer Young wrote: Why, may I ask, is this name appropriate for me (not that I can change, and I won't even when I can) ? > > Well, what happened was this: It was August 7 at Mel Lastman Square in > > Toronto. The guys were about to do "Pisco Bandito". Jian was having some > > problem with the guitar, and Murray started to introduce the song. He > > was playing some chords and talking kinda slow. Dave says something to > > the effect of "Geez, I thought you were about to do 'Alice's > > Restaurant'". At that point, Murray busts into "Alice's Restaurant", in > > which a search for a pork tenderloin is mentioned several times. That > > last post about it was just to say that it was actually "Alice's > > Restaurant", a song from the 70's by Arlow Guthrie which I would LOVE to > > hear again. I just felt I should clarify that since everyone seemed to > > be calling it "Pork Tenderloin". I apologize for confusing you. I tend > > to do that to people. > > Um Summer, in which Mel Lastman Square in which Toronto did you see them do > Alice's Restaurant? :) > > I'm afraid you've misinterpreted their patter. What Murray and Dave broke > into that evening was part of the song The Search for the Dangerous Pork > Tenderloin which, ledgend has it, they wrote as part of a cooking show that > they did. Dave's remark about Alice's Restaurant was due to the fact that > Murray was talking and noodling a la Arlo Guthrie. Not that he in fact > sang any of that song, which he did not. I can only attribute your > mistaking "Pork Tenderloin" for "Alice" to the fact that you are almost > certainly not old enough to remember Alice's Restaurant when it was a > nationwide anthem for the Anti-Draft movement (I was only about 5 myself). > The two songs are NOTHING alike. > You are correct. I was not around when the song was "a nation-wide anthem". I was recommended the movie by a friend who is now in his late 20's. I, however, have only seen and heard the song once (a couple years ago), which is why (as I mentioned in my other post relating to this) I never should've opened my big mouth before having my facts straight. Thank you as well for letting me know why I tasted foot. :) > Anyone who doesn't know Alice's Restaurant by heart BTW, should go to the > nearest library or Record store and obtain a copy to listen to and learn. > It is without a doubt one of the most important songs written in the 20th > century. > I am, in fact, going to try to get to the video store this weekend. The local vidoe store has better stuff than all those big chains. (Anyone ever seen "The Rutles"? That some good stuff!!) > Prof. A.J. ->Summer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:43:22 -0400 From: Chad Schrock Subject: Re: Chadadian Cuisine? Richard Butterworth wrote: > Chad Schrock wrote: > > Chad Maloney wrote: > > > > > Viva La Vegetarien[2]! > > > > * chad looks in his refridgerator. > > > > * chad looks at this post again. > > > > Are you sure you're not me??!?! > > I fear this is getting all very worrying. Are you two sure you > want to meet up? Sure! It's the only way to prove that we aren't the same person. > I think you may cancel each other out if you get too close. It's the whole ying and yang of existence. In a purely existential way, of course. (huh?) > Either that or combine together to form a Double Chad. A > sort of CChhaadd. Is that anything like a double-stuff Oreo? > Or possibly form a super dense Chad, whose gravitational > pull is so strong that once a (hypothetical) space ship > passes your Chad horizon then it can never escape. That would be interesting... I wonder what else we could attract? > Or you'll maybe collapse in on yourselves and form a point > in space with no area but infinite Chadness -- a Chadularity. More like a peculuraity. :) > Did someone say the signal to noise ratio was dropping off on > this ng? Well there's some more noise for you. :) Naaah. Every ng needs one of these threads. :) > Chad chad > Richard I'm flattered, really, but, I can barely sing. I could never be a Pip. - -- chad@ radix.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 18:50:36 -0500 From: Moxy Fruvous Subject: **ITINERARY** Hi everyone! Here's a great big itinerary! Wed Sept 16 Winnipeg, MB West End Cultural Ctr Thur Sept 17 Saskatoon, SK Louis Pub, U of Sask Fri Sept 18 Calgary, AB Dalhousie Community Ctr Sat Sept 19 Calgary, AB Braeside Community Ctr Mon Sept 21 Edmonton, AB Sidetrack Cafe Tues Sept 22 Salmon Arm, BC Salmar Theatre Thur Sept 24 Vancouver, BC Richards on Richards Fri Sept 25 Victoria, BC Legends Sat Sept 26 Seattle, WA Central Saloon Tues Sept 29 San Francisco,CA Slim's Fri Oct 2 Denver, CO Swallow Hill Sat Oct 3 Carbondale, CO Colorado Rocky Mtn School Sun Oct 4 Boulder, CO Fox Theatre Tues Oct 6 Urbana, IL Canopy Club Thur Oct 8 Minneapolis, MN The Quest Fri Oct 9 Madison, WI Club Tavern Sat Oct 10 Chicago, IL Martyr's Mon Oct 12 St Louis, MO Borders - Balwin, MO Thur Oct 15 Columbus, OH Ludlow's Fri Oct 16 Bloomington, IN Second Story Sat Oct 17 Highland Hhts,KY Greaves Concert Hall (Cincinnati area) Sun Oct 18 Lafayette, IN Lafayette Brewing Co. Wed Oct 28 Burlington, VT Club Metronome Thur Oct 29 Boston, MA Paradise Fri Oct 30 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Sat Oct 31 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Wed Nov 4 Cleveland, OH Case Western Reserve U Thur Nov 5 Rochester, NY Harro East Fri Nov 6 Buffalo, NY The Tralf - all ages Sat Nov 7 Buffalo, NY The Tralf - 21 + Mon Nov 9 Baltimore, MD The Vault Tues Nov 10 New York, NY Irving Plaza - special guests to the Violent Femmes Wed Nov 11 New York, NY Irving Plaza - second show with the Violent Femmes tentative Fri Nov 13 Alfred, NY Alfred University Sat Nov 14 Katonah, NY Clearwater Coffee House Tues Dec 1 Ithaca, NY The Haunt Thur Dec 3 Clinton, NY Hamilton College Fri Dec 4 Clinton, NY Kirkland Arts Ctr Sat Dec 5 Montreal, QC Clyde's Fri Jan 29 Windsor, ON Mackenzie Hall Thur Feb 18 Toronto, ON The Rivoli Fri Feb 19 Toronto, ON The Rivoli Sat Feb 20 Toronto, ON The Rivoli Sun Feb 21 Toronto, ON The Rivoli - 5th Annual Pro-Choice Benefit Please call if you have any questions. Jude ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Judith Coombe, Management Assistant Moxy Fruvous 416-368-5599 moxy@passport.ca www.fruvous.com ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #587 ********************************************