From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #131 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Oswego [Kitana Ananda ] Re: greetings from Alberta! ["MTKeener" ] Re: warning stickers? ["MTKeener" ] Re: greetings from Alberta! ["MTKeener" ] Re: greetings from Alberta! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] Re: Review of 7/17 Burlington, VT show [seqiro@mail2.nai.net (Paul D. Bea] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:52:07 GMT From: Kitana Ananda Subject: Re: Oswego In article <1998072012575800.IAA08838@ladder01.news.aol.com>, stussy666@aol.com (STUSSY666) wrote: > Can somebody help me out here with some details on the free show at the Oswego > Harborfest? My comp is a pretty lackluster little guy and I'm having troubles > reading the Harborfest web page so if anyone could give me a preformance > time(for Fruvous) and band line up(openers etc.) I would be forever in your > debt. Moxy will be on at 6:30 and 8pm, two sets which are separated by a short break, on Friday July 24th. The show takes place on the River Stage at W. Linear Park... I don't really know where you're coming from, so I can't offer directions, but its on the Oswego River between W. 1st and 3rd or something like that. I hope that helps a *little*.:) Kitana :) - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:40:34 -0400 From: "MTKeener" Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! Matt James wrote... <> >I have a simple rule for buying products: get whatever is the cheapest! >Well, ok, that is not 100% true, but close to it. I don't really care >whether I have coke or pepsi, whatever is on sale. Toothpaste? Colgate >one month, Tom's of Maine the next, Crest the next, whatever is on sale. >Often, the only product I'll get consistently is something like Safeway's >Apple Juice which is *always* the cheapest or Lucerne milk which is >the *only* one available. >So what's that make me? A price hoar? ;) (*chuckle* I can't resist) I buy the cheapest TWO-ply TP. I buy Coke, never Pepsi. No Coke? Mountain Dew. Toothpaste - Metadent, I'm hooked...who cares if it costs three times as much as Crest. Generic cigarettes? Never. Generic OJ? Always. Cynical? Absolutely. Matt (...a little dab'll do ya) - -- anti-spam: "x" appended to reply address ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:50:02 -0400 From: "MTKeener" Subject: Re: warning stickers? <>... I always thought that if a CD had a >> Warning Sticker they were on every CD sold in the country. >> Does anyone know? > >I'm not entirely sure, Matt. But I *DO* know that in the Borders Bookstore >that Fruvous was at, they did *NOT* have warning stickers. However, last >night, in Tower Records (Upper Merion, PA - just outside of Philly), they did >indeed have warning stickers. And a SLEW of Fruvous cds despite a misspelled >label for their section. > Funny thing is, I went to Border's to pick up LN (granted, the day it went on sale) and they didn't have it even tho' the boys were doing an in-store at that location three weeks later...I went next door and got it at (groan) Media Play. No sticker. Note the post from BLR: they were a little late with the sticker. Me? I peel 'em off the cellophane and adhere them to my pool cue case, I've got dozens...they look nice right next to the "I Voted Today" stickers that I've saved from the last 12 elections. Matt (who doesn't care for those cactus stickers...) anti-spam: "x" appended to reply address ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:28:00 -0400 From: "MTKeener" Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! >....without offending >their parents enough to make them say no to the purchase. remember, their parents aren't watching... > >Cigarettes don't count. The cigarette companies play dirty pool. They're >just out to get people addicted and they don't care about the rest of it. >They know that the warning on their packages don't mean a hill of beans to a >13 year old who thinks it's cool to smoke. Bastards. Same bastards that got me hooked so long ago. But don't think that Nike and Taco Bell aren't using the same methods. It's cool to eat empty calories and get fat and develop heart disease and buy overpriced shoes made by exploited children in third world countries (nooooo, not another thread ==== ---< ). I think the bottom line (NPI) here is that we're all wondering, without any concrete answers, is how far DO/SHOULD we go to protect our children who are bombarded with commercialism that they just aren't ready for? Then, when we don't have an answer, who should we point our fingers at? If I really needed (or deserved) that Nobel in philosophy I'd give it a shot but I'm stumped. Matt (long hair long nose....) anti-spam: "x" appended to reply address ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jul 1998 01:30:39 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! >"Stephen R. Laniel" wrote: > >wrote: > I don't understand how we >feel >> morality is something that can be legislated. Morality is something >that is >> constantly evolving. >That only goes so far. Even though I agree with your point, it is true >that certain things remain constant in a certain body of law over time. >In the US, it is unlikely that we will ever make murder legal. Probably a >stupid example, but the general point is there. > i don't understand the connection between the government instituting laws to protect people from bodily harm, which is an objective thing, to legislation about "morality", which is clearly subjective. >Also, in some sense we _need_ to legislate morality. We can't simply say >"morals change constantly, so we should never put them into law". In a >democracy, laws are supposed to express the public's beliefs; they are the >public's morals, in other words. If you don't believe that we should >legislate morality, then you essentially undermine the basis of Western >law. > perhaps the basis of western law needs a bit of undermining, if it is comprised of a small unrepresentative representative (how's that for an oxymoron??) body that wishes to preach personal morality, while providing little to no example of this morality. >In the interest of constructing a positivist theory, what would you >suggest we use as a replacement for morality in law? Should people be >free to do as they please? > the first step is to make our government truly representative of all americans. it's a sad fact that many walks of american life have no representation in the legislature, and therefore, your definition of democracy is not applicable. until there is equal reprentation for all races, financial classes, and religions, as well as both genders, then we are not living in a true democracy, and therefore anyone (elected or not) who tries to impress his or her definition of morality on the masses is perverting an already corrupt system. - -nora ( feeling cynical) ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:51:17 GMT From: seqiro@mail2.nai.net (Paul D. Beasi) Subject: Re: Review of 7/17 Burlington, VT show On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:17:32 GMT, "Adam Hartfield" >Eventually the opener, Sharon, pronounced like the boatman of the >river Styx, came on. She has a very deep voice for a woman, and ably >accompanied herself on electric guitar. She was good, but Ginny and I >later agreed that she needed a band behind her and that all her songs >sounded the same. Wow, I said the exact same thing to Andrea. The guitar riffs for each song were virtually identical. I did like her voice though. >Green Eggs & Ham (I don't know the difference between the long and >short versions so can't comment on which this was) Once you've heard both, they're pretty easy to tell apart. Colleen's response answers most of it, but I'll just add that when I heard heard the long version, it was a little more slower paced and didn't have the Murray bass parts. Both versions are great! >Get In The Car - I don't care what anyone (Jordan!) says, I love this >song, live or recorded. Yes and yes! >Love Potion #9 Medley - I'm not sure what the first thing was, but >there was Stayin' Alive, Love Shack, and Who Will Save Your Soul in >there as well. The first thing was Ohio by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. >I'm sure there's much I'm forgetting, and if I left you out, please do >email me at the address below (not the hotmail one). I look forward to >seeing whoever's going to the SONO festival in Connecticut on 8/1. Andrea and I will be there! Paul - ----------------------------------------- Paul Beasi seqiro@ct2.nai.net http://w3.nai.net/~seqiro The spotlight guys got Iggy! -TMBG, Lupos Heartbreak Hotel 10/25/97 - ----------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #131 ********************************************