From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #124 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Thursday in the Square [nasust@aol.com (NasusT)] Review of 7/17 Burlington, VT show ["Adam Hartfield" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 19 Jul 1998 22:47:51 GMT From: nasust@aol.com (NasusT) Subject: Thursday in the Square Hi, Been meaning to post this info, in case some of the WNYers haven't read or heard it yet. This Thursday (July 23) at the Thursday in the Square series at Lafayette Square in Buffalo, the performers will be Michael Oliver and Go Dog Go! and Great Big Sea! Both bands are very familiar to many of us, so I will be on the lookout for Fruheads! Music starts at 6:00 pm. Susan ********* "I am fuel waiting for fire". - Ani DiFranco ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:17:32 GMT From: "Adam Hartfield" Subject: Review of 7/17 Burlington, VT show WHTMATBVTMFC (What Happened To Me At The Burlington Vermont Moxy Fruvous Concert) Concert date - July 17, 1998. Venue: Club Metronome, Burlington, VT. Waking up by falling out of bed fortunately was not an inauspicious beginning to my day Friday. I hied it up to my aunt and uncle's farm in Plainfield, VT, right quick. I hung out there until 6:30, when my cousin Ginny and I drove through horrible thunderstorms on I-89 to get to Burlington. After circling the block several times, we finally found a place to park, and went into the club at 8. The venue was shaped like a large J, with the bar and lounge area in the semicircle at the bottom of the J and the main performance space along the long part of the J with the stage at the top. The stage was tiny - maybe 15 feet by 10 feet. We were some of the first patrons for the concert that was supposed to start at 9. Armed with gin and tonics, we drank some, and chatted with Tobey, who was busy playing the arcade version of Asteroids. Ginny and I then played a game of pool. By this time it was about 8:40, and the club was still virtually deserted. We sat down, and me being the extrovert that I am, I struck up a conversation with the couple at the next table - - Paul from Enfield, CT, which is just across the border for me, and Andrea Krause, also from CT. We chit-chatted for a while and bemoaned the fact that the opening act wasn't starting. Eventually the opener, Sharon, pronounced like the boatman of the river Styx, came on. She has a very deep voice for a woman, and ably accompanied herself on electric guitar. She was good, but Ginny and I later agreed that she needed a band behind her and that all her songs sounded the same. I took a picture of her performing and will scan it in if it develops OK. She played bluesy my-lover-did-me-wrong/I'm-so- lonely-I-could-cry songs from 10 till 11. In the meantime, Chris O'Malley, Vika Zafrin, Colleen Campbell, and Mary Krause showed up. They had trekked up from Boston at warp factor 9.5. I hadn't met Mary before, so this was especially nice for me. Chris & Moe showed up at some point - I saw them later after the show started. Other than those six people, and me of course, I didn't see many people that I recognized from the newsgroup or IRC. Colleen and I started chatting to a woman standing next to us, who was seeing Frvous live for the first time. She was really nice, and I hope she posts to the ng or comes into IRC. Colleen - did you get her name? I didn't. She said if she posted it'll be from something called ThetSig - a combination of theta and sigma - but when we were talking about it I was so tired that I couldn't pay as much attention as I would've liked. Anyway. Before the show started, as we were directly in front of Jian in the second row, I told her to beware drunk women shoving their way to the front. She looked at me incredulously and laughed it off, but I got the last laugh when it did, in fact, occur. Frvous came out at around 11:15. I was so close to the stage, and the stage was only about 2 feet higher than floor level, that I felt a level of intimacy that I've not felt at other concerts. Plus I'm usually in the corner in front of Murray, so being in the center was a new experience for me. I couldn't look at them all at once, and that took getting used to. Here's the setlist: Extended Sahara. Just keeps getting better and better. Jockey Full Of Bourbon. Great song, but not one of my favorites. BJ Don't Cry. This one makes me dance. Banter - Tony Esposito Sweat. Who? Half As Much. Somebody said something a few weeks ago about the new backing vocals being wonderful, and they are. Horseshoes. Ahhhhhh. I Will Hold On. More good stuff. Pisco Bandito. This song rocks. I adore it. Mistra Know-It-All. This was unexpected but wonderful! Gotta Get A Message To You, unaccompanied version. Great, great, great, but the noise level from the back half of the room was incredibly loud. Seems the majority of the people were drinking and talking. The Nerve! Banter - Human Flesh In A Pipe. I have no idea what they were talking about. Tease - Safety Dance Michigan Militia Johnny Saucep'n No No Raja King Of Spain Green Eggs & Ham (I don't know the difference between the long and short versions so can't comment on which this was) My Baby Loves a Bunch of Authors - another favorite of mine, live or recorded. Get In The Car - I don't care what anyone (Jordan!) says, I love this song, live or recorded. It always makes me want to dance. I might add here that dancing was tough due to the density of the first few rows of audience. So I therefore improvised - I grabbed Ginny's arms (she was right in front of me) and acted like a puppet master. She told me after the show that Murray saw this and was cracking up, but I wasn't watching him at that point. In addtion to close quarters, some very drunk people had by this time shoved their way right next to me, and they kept talking to each other. The second time they tried to pass me I did not move out of the way for them. Damn rude people! Love Potion #9 Medley - I'm not sure what the first thing was, but there was Stayin' Alive, Love Shack, and Who Will Save Your Soul in there as well. I can't read the next one. It may have been a medley component, or a standalone song - I don't remember. Encore 1: Laika. Woo hoo!!!!! Psycho Killer Encore 2: The Drinking Song. The background noise level was SO LOUD on this was. It was the exact opposite of the way I've heard this song at the Iron Horse, where a pin could drop and you'd hear it. Not so this time. Feh. After the show ended, I managed to go introduce myself to Nate De Rose, and that was cool. He's a member of the roB! Johnson/Dave Tobey lookalike club. Heh. Also, I managed to take about 20 pictures, and once I get them back I will scan them in and forward to Chris for inclusion @ FDC. I'm sure there's much I'm forgetting, and if I left you out, please do email me at the address below (not the hotmail one). I look forward to seeing whoever's going to the SONO festival in Connecticut on 8/1. - --Adam adam.hartfield@dev.artioslink.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 02:30:57 GMT From: "Stephen R. Laniel" Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! - --On Sunday, July 19, 1998, 7:06 PM +0000 Bodaceah wrote: > One more point and i will leave you alone. I don't understand how we feel > morality is something that can be legislated. Morality is something that is > constantly evolving. It is no longer considered immoral for a woman to show her > ankles, we no longer cover up the genitals on the statue of "David". That only goes so far. Even though I agree with your point, it is true that certain things remain constant in a certain body of law over time. In the US, it is unlikely that we will ever make murder legal. Probably a stupid example, but the general point is there. Also, in some sense we _need_ to legislate morality. We can't simply say "morals change constantly, so we should never put them into law". In a democracy, laws are supposed to express the public's beliefs; they are the public's morals, in other words. If you don't believe that we should legislate morality, then you essentially undermine the basis of Western law. In the interest of constructing a positivist theory, what would you suggest we use as a replacement for morality in law? Should people be free to do as they please? - --Steve Stephen R. Laniel | "That's because he treats her like dirt. Carnegie Mellon University | Anyone can get a girl that way." laniel@cmu.edu | --Joseph Heller ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #124 ********************************************