From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #89 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, July 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Talking Heads, and repeated band seeings (was Re: nyc!!) [Chad Malone] Re: greetings from Alberta!/FIREFIREFIRE! [blinerecs@aol.com (BLineRecs)] Re: greetings from Alberta! [dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926)] Re: Talking Heads, and repeated band seeings (was Re: nyc!!) [Geenius at ] Re: Marion Fruvous [Chad Maloney ] Re: branching out in musical tastes... [dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin)] Re: greetings from Alberta! [Starfox ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:29:43 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Talking Heads, and repeated band seeings (was Re: nyc!!) fraud wrote: > music at party-type atmospheres. Actually i would love it if moxy copied the > style of the talking heads concert featured in that video with the > developmental show-perhaps starting out with only say jian and a bongo for > hte first song and adding people each song after that--but if you havent > seen the vidoe you are missing out, its great. Oh well theres my input into > the moxy/talking heads discussion. Actually, they've been pseudo-doing that a little for a while. The extended Sahara intro starts with Jian on the Dum-bek, brings Mur in on the bass, then Mike and Dave come in. Dave and Mike go through wood blocks, the bongos, the midi-keyboard (which has a key taped down which started the whole thing =), electric guitar, shakers, and maybe other miscellaneous items of Fruvousness. Jian moves from dum-bek to his kit midway through and goes through a couple different styles before Mur hits a big slide and it all falls right into Sahara's lap. All it really needs is some Hammond organ and it would be really tasty. What's the other David Byrne movie? With John Goodman in it. Is that Stop Making Sense? I don't think it is. Anyone know what I'm talking about or am I just crazy (or both)? - Chad PS Man, my simple sig with a couple tabs, a "-" and a capital "C" now looks complicated compared to the other Chad's *grin* ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 1998 15:33:40 GMT From: blinerecs@aol.com (BLineRecs) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta!/FIREFIREFIRE! I think this was Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. writing a Supreme Court decision (I think it was a case regarding someone who distributed pamphlets advocating resistance to the draft around WWI). If not he, then maybe Brandeis, who was on the court at the same time.... Kevin, BLRC >Somebody Very Famous and Very Clever (whose name I've forgotten so he/she >couldn't >be all that Very Famous) proposed the argument that freedom of expression is >fine, >but freedom to express yourself by shouting `Fire!' in a crowded theatre when >there isn't one? Its an unanswerable question... ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 1998 16:31:46 GMT From: dot0926@aol.com (Dot0926) Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! Richard Butterworth wrote: >I may be misreading Nora here, but it sounds like an absolutist position on >freedom of expression that's being taken. There is a balance to be drawn here >between freedom and security quite simply, i disagree. i don't believe that a falsefied system of security via censorship is worth sacrificing freedom. i would rather live with the so called evils of society, and learn how to deal with them myself, then be "protected" from them ,and live in a state of blissful ignorence. ...>a government must assert some sort of ethics. ah yes, but then the big question arises... whose ethics? if you take a room of a hundered people and ask then to define ethics, im sure that you would get a hundered different answers. > To >draw a very crude analogy I firmly believe that I have a responsibility to >not go >out and punch people randomly in the face. In return for my assuming that >responsibility I expect other members of my society to believe the same. >However >as I don't live in utopia I recognise that the government has a role in >enforcing >the responsibility of its citizens not to randomly punch each other in the >face, >by laws, etc. why is it that people always insist on relying on the exuse of "we don't live in a utopia"? why do people resign themselves to the status quo? if people keep believing that because we don't live in a utopia, and are resigned to "human nature" ( which i dont believe exists) , then no one will ever even attempt to change things. we can recognize that we are not living in an ideal world, yet dwelling on it inhibits positive revolution. why should we say that the government has the right to take away our freedom because we are living in a corrupt world, rather we should say, lets make this world into a utopia so these so called securities will not be needed. let each person learn that they have the responsibility to not " randomly punch" people, rather than have a government force it upon them. >The sad irony/paradox about the advisory stickers is that the sort of parents >who >do actually take notice of the stickers are in general the sort of parents >who >care about their children enough that they probably are sharing in the >exploration >of their kids upbringing in all the sensible ways Nora suggests and so don't >actually need the stickers. > objectivly, yes, i can see how we "need" the stickers, however, the need for freedom far exceeds the need for government enforced censorship. >Its sad that we feel that our governments' motives are dangerous (I believe >that >about about my government too, though I may be paranoid) because that means >that >democracy isn't working. Who votes for dangerous governments? > i agree that it is sad to believe that the institution that supposedly is supposed to protect your freedoms is really exploiting them. it is sad to have no faith in the american ( or in richard's case, the brittish) governing system. you ask who votes for an undemocaratic government? well,the reality is that american governmental corruption has been around since the very begining of this nation, and that a tradition of inequality is very hard to break. it is the wealthy who have always been in power, and who ( through pacs and lobbyists) prosper in the corruption while the voiceless and poverty stricken fall. - - nora ( bored and tired at home with 103 fever) ************************************************************************** ******* " there's something exciting about the failure of modern technology to create a real looking fake human." - john linnell nora cohen (dot0926@aol.com) **************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:53:31 -0400 From: Geenius at Wrok Subject: Re: Talking Heads, and repeated band seeings (was Re: nyc!!) On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Chad Maloney wrote: > What's the other David Byrne movie? With John Goodman in it. Is that > Stop Making Sense? I don't think it is. Anyone know what I'm talking > about or am I just crazy (or both)? "True Stories." - -- "I wish EVERY day could be a shearing festival!" -- The 10 Commandments =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Keith Ammann is geenius@albany.net "I notice you have a cloud of doom. Live with honor, endure with grace I must admit it makes you seem www.albany.net/~geenius * Lun Yu 2:24 dangerous and sexy." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:37:05 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Marion Fruvous Jennifer Williams wrote: > > Does any body know if The Boys perform "Marion Fruvous" anywhere else other > than Toronto? Yeah. It is one of the "Festival Songs" that pops up a decent amount during the summer times. It usually includes a disclaimer about how the things in the song are from Toronto and what Equinox is and what Blue Boxes are and such and then they head into the introduction. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:20:59 GMT From: dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: branching out in musical tastes... On 13 Jul 1998 13:47:13 GMT, samoq@aol.com (Samoq) wrote: >Anybody who is making the trek northward to the Stone Coast in Portland for the >fru-show on Wednesday might be interested to know that Jim's Big Ego will be >playing there on the 23rd. I've never seen them, myself, but after all I've >heard here I think I'll be checking them out! Huh. Really? Where, at the Stone Coast itself, before Fruvous? Details, I want details! Then again, I *could* just go to their web site and check it out meself. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vika [VEE-kah] Zafrin Patron Saint of Caffeine dacilen at bu dot edu aka Coffee Fru "You and your hula dance of culinary delight..." -ceecee ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jul 1998 17:37:23 GMT From: Starfox Subject: Re: greetings from Alberta! Dot0926 wrote: : objectivly, yes, i can see how we "need" the stickers, however, the need for : freedom far exceeds the need for government enforced censorship. I kinda like the system of "ratings" sorta like we do for movies. It was a cool idea to convert that to TV shows, but unfortunately the government fucked that up. Ratings at least give a general range. *shrug* Personally, I'm against those little stickers because of the meaning that is associated with them. : - nora ( bored and tired at home with 103 fever) *sends you some chicken soup* Starfox "The above post has been censored, you didn't read it." - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "We each pay a fabulous price, for our visions of paradise." - Rush "Mission" ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #89 *******************************************