From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #56 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Thursday, July 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 056 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bonus! Excellent! (aug 7,8,9) [starfox@nationwide.Green.Eggs.And.NOSp] Re: Ever considered a fru-mailing list? [Chad Maloney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2 Jul 1998 14:43:50 GMT From: starfox@nationwide.Green.Eggs.And.NOSpam.net (Starfox) Subject: Re: Bonus! Excellent! (aug 7,8,9) Samoq wrote: : Oh, do post if you make any plans regarding the above... my birthday's the 3rd, : and I'm planning on asking my hubster for a weekend in Toronto as my gift... *chuckle* We'll probably coordinate this closer to the end of July so as to hook up with as many fruheads as possible. The four confirmed people going right now are me, "wild" Bill, Vika, and Chris. Others may hop on the fruvous bandwagon as the time gets closer. Also, since we (bill and myself) don't really know where these shows are, we'll need to research a bit to see if a good central hotel to the venues exist, or if we are going to motel hop. Stay tuned to a.m.mf for more information Starfox "Don't change that dial! We'll be right back after these messages!" - -- Starfox starfox (at) nationwide dot net "We each pay a fabulous price, for our visions of paradise." - Rush "Mission" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:57:26 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: Ever considered a fru-mailing list? Chris, OMalley wrote: > I've tried my best to make FDC as easy to use as possible, presenting > new information in logical places. As many of you know, I am receptive > to new organizational ideas if enough people think they would be > beneficial. To me, finding new info out is really easy. I personally have my Netscape home page set to FDC and when I first fire it up, I hit the second from the bottom button on the left side (that's going to say Additions and Changes if I let the pictures load *grin*) and see what has changed. That works great for me, but I work in front of a computer all day and load netscape up to dodge real work. > > Let me take this time to forwarn everyone (slightly)... I am planning > a move to Boston in the next few months, and inevitably FDC will slow > down a little bit during that move. Don't worry; I'll still make sure that > timely, crucial info is posted ASAP. What?!? You're fired. Your last paycheck is in the mail. Thank you for your time with us. We wish you luck in finding further employment. Please feel free to use us as a reference. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 14:38:50 GMT From: "Wierzbicki/Ross Family" Subject: Re: Ever considered a fru-mailing list? > >Are there really that many of us without web access? > > I would have to imagine in these days of ISPs, and the flurry > about 'the web', that nearly everyone who's on the internet > has web access. I'm not really sure if a new, separate mailing list > is necessary, esp. with the news gateway that Ofer set up. > > I've tried my best to make FDC as easy to use as possible, presenting > new information in logical places. As many of you know, I am receptive > to new organizational ideas if enough people think they would be > beneficial. > > Let me take this time to forwarn everyone (slightly)... I am planning > a move to Boston in the next few months, and inevitably FDC will slow > down a little bit during that move. Don't worry; I'll still make sure that > timely, crucial info is posted ASAP. Out of curiousity.... has FDC been put on the Major search engines? Cause I find it less of a thing of, who can access the web... it's who can access/find the Fruvous presence on the web... If it wasn't for me actually reading the liner of YWGTTM, I would never have been able to find all this (and still then I had to search around to find some of the stuff!). So I figure, if you meet fans you don't know from the newsgroup or other places, ask if they have the net! If they do, give ammf, #moxyfruvous, and FDC a quick plugin, and tell them to spread the word! I can almost garentee that we would be able to, how was it put... "Increase your fruhead friends exponentially" Cameron ------------------------------ Date: 2 Jul 1998 16:18:35 GMT From: kpfruhead@aol.com (KPFruhead) Subject: Re: jeopardy >"did you watch jeopardy last night?? >there was a question that read- >this states highest point is only 450 (or what >ever) feet and is located >(wherever) >the answer of course was DELEWARE!!!" I saw it!!!! I couldn't pay attention to the rest of the show it was so funny... and I think it was 420 feet Ken, glad somebody else caught that! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:20:18 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Talking Heads, and repeated band seeings (was Re: nyc!!) goodomenz@aol.com (GoodOmenz) wrote: > this wont make me all that popular but umm... have you see the talking heads > live? if so im jealous but ANYway, i saw david byrne a few months ago and he > did that song. he wore this sick skin tight jumpsuit that covered everything > except his mouth and eyes and made him look like he'd been flayed alive cuz it > showed all his muscles and stuff. and they had blacklights, it was one of the > coolest things ive ever seen! i still have nightmares. fruvous, tho wonderful > (my friend didnt know they played that song and she nearly choked) just dont > compare. sorry, had to say that I've never seen the Talking Heads live for real, mainly because I hate large venues, and by the time I'd heard of them that's the only kind of venue they did, and besides, back then I didn't really go to concerts much (can you imaging that? those of you who know me :). But, I did see the concert movie they made. I forget what it was called, but I think it went with the tour that went with the release of Little Creatures, so I think it might've been called Little Creatures. Anyway, it was just a live concert, filmed and recorded, nothing more. I saw it in a real theater on a big screen with a good sound system. Wow! No, much as I love fruvous' cover of Psycho Killer, it really does not stand up to comparison with the original as performed live by David Byrne and the Talking Heads. If you (the collective you on this here newsgroup) can hunt down a copy of that movie and see it on a big screen, do it! It's as close as you can get to a real Talking Heads concert these days. And it's pretty damn close, let me tell you. People in the theater were applauding the songs and everything. (Says he who has never actually seen them live... :) ceelove@ibm.net (Colleen Campbell) wrote: > Ya gotta laugh, you really do. "Only five or six times." I > understand this perfectly, what it's like to feel like that's not a > lot of times (especially when they've teased us with trying to attend > fifty shows in a year & a half, with the Fruhead/Frumiles cards), but > really--in how many contexts does one say "I've *only* seen a group > five or six times"? Hey, I object! That's a perfectly normal thing for me to say! :-) I really have lost track of the number of groups I've seen more than 5 or six times. But there are also a lot of groups I really like that I've only seen that many times, and would like to see more (and very likely will...) In fact, I'm beginning to lose track of which groups I've probably seen more than 20 times. Hmmm... moxy fruvous just recently made that category. Then there's Groovasaurus, Rippopotamus, The Nields, Jennifer Kimball (including The Story), Southern Rail, Chucklehead, Falling August, Carol Noonan (including Knots & Crosses), Jim Infantino (including Jim's Big Ego), Heavy Metal Horns (maybe), ... But I'm sure I'm forgetting some. *soon* Eddie From Ohio will be in that category. Workin' on it! -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- WBRS@brandeis.edu http://www.wbrs.org/ "[Spencer Tracy and Tom Hanks have] a disturbing aura of wholesomeness of which I do not approve." -- James Guimond [9 April 1995] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 16:48:51 GMT From: auerworld@followme.com Subject: Re: Bonus! Excellent! (aug 7,8,9) ST> I'm planning on asking my hubster for a weekend in Toronto as my gift Also, since we (bill and ST>myself) don't really know where these shows are, we'll need to research ST>a bit to see if a good central hotel to the venues exist, or if we are ST>going to motel hop. You would probably be best-off at a central hotel within walking distance of Yonge Street... The Fruvous show on Friday night is at Mel Lastman Square which is in North York(straight up Yonge Street...). There's a subway stop right there. The music on Saturday and Sunday is at Harbourfront (also easy to get to front downtown)...On Saturday, a group called Flook ("a quartet of young Irish upstarts set the tone for a rippin' Celtic show") plays at 8 p.m. Dan Bern ("Strong, irreverent '90s folk music with an attitude") plays at 9:30. On Sunday The Nields ("Electric folk with a little grunge thrown in") play at 3:30... (Fruvous is also playing on Sunday at The Taste of the Danforth but I'm not sure what time)... Hope this helps.............. George ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 17:51:37 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: foreign language lyrics wahrend@my-dejanews.com wrote: > You know you're doomed when you can sing the french lyrics and haven't a clue > as to what they mean. (or you make up meanings.. ;-) or look on FDC for > translations..) Doomed :) I actually really love it when a band sings in a foreign language and inspires me to try to learn the words. I already knew French before hearing fruvous, so they haven't yet done it to me, but other musicians have. I think the first time I can remember it happening is when I picked up a few Latin words from Enya. Especially the song Cursum Perficio (perfect course) which, admittedly, doesn't really have all that many interesting words to learn, but just sounds great! The coolest, and also most recent instance of this for me has been my fascination with Haitian Rara/Vodou bands over the past two years, especially Boukman Eksperyans and Boukan Ginen. The previously dominant form of Haitian music, Compas, was often sung in French, about themes that are common all over the world. Vodou Adjae, pioneered by Boukman Eksperyans, is usually in Haitian Creole and occasionally in Langaj (the secret language of vodou, no translation available), and is mostly about very Haitian issues, including a lot of the Vodou faith. I don't really know this, but it seems to me that Vodou is to Haitians as Islam is to Arabs. Not all Haitians believe in, practice, or are in some way involved with Vodou, but it's still part of their culture and history. Anyway, the really cool thing is that all of Boukman Eksperyan's albums have complete lyrics to all the songs, in both English and the Haitian Creole they're sung in. (Except for the Langaj bits, which aren't translated :) They even have footnotes for words and phrases that aren't exactly translateable, like Ginen, Lakou, and "three words". The Boukan Ginen albums, on the other hand, usually only have lyrics to one or two songs, and for the rest, just a really brief blurb on what the song is about. That means I can try to learn the language from the Boukman Eksperyans albums, and then test myself by trying to understand the Boukan Ginen songs. The two bands are very similar and the overlap in vocabulary used is very large. Right now I'm listening to a CD by Oumou Sangare, singing in her native Wassoulou from Mali. The CD booklet has full translations into French and English of all the songs, but doesn't have any of the original lyrics transliterated. I don't know if I'm ever gonna be brave enough to tackle that - though I could use it to polish up my French a little :-) -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@polyamory.org "Mere praise of peace is easy but ineffective. What is needed is active participation in the fight against war and everything that leads to it." -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #56 *******************************************