From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #309 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, August 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 309 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Moxy on IRC [dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin)] Re: Moxy on the Radio [dgodwin1@aol.com (DGodwin1)] Re: Canadian customs [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) [elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin)] Intra_PA Rivalry [affannat@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato)] Re: Moxy on IRC [gemini@p3.net (Trace)] moxy concert pics! ["^kat^" ] Re:getting hit on via moxy shirt #2 [Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.que] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Aug 1998 02:49:47 GMT From: dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Moxy on IRC snonsumr@my-dejanews.com wrote: : could someone repost the servers to get on IRC? i'm not on it yet & : accidently deleted the post & the addresses for them. *fwaps self* so if : someone could suggest a good IRC server, i would greatly appreciate it. Undernet is the server cluster, if you will, that you should use. On it, for me, newyork.ny.us.undernet.org:6668 (though it works anywhere from 6660 to 6669, I think) works best. You may also try the Baltimore server (baltimore.md.us.undernet.org:6660-9). The others, for me, are luck of the draw. - -- Vika [VEE-kah] Patron Saint of Caffeine dacilen@bu.edu "Every little child learns, if you can't see dreams your eyes are blind." -MF ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 1998 05:50:32 GMT From: dgodwin1@aol.com (DGodwin1) Subject: Re: Moxy on the Radio >I have yet to hear Moxy on the radio. I regularly listen to101.1 the river, >and 102.1 the edge. Oh well, that's why I bought a cd player for my car. =) > 101.1FM the River does a nightly "Canadian Culture Club," in which only Canadian Artists are featured. I usually hear Fruvous, and other Canadian artists as well, at somepoint during that time. Daniel Never be critical of someone else until you've walked three hundred miles in their shoes...that way you be 300 miles away from them, and have their pair of shoes (Rockapella Banter) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:25:18 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Canadian customs On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 20:17:06 GMT, clibicki@beol.net wrote: >In article <35d6382d.5987522@news.rff.org>, > elinX@rff.org wrote: >> Ah, but does Militant have to also mean Anachronistic? Get in the >> 90's. >Aaagh! No! Are you serious? That's the problem with these things, if people >use them wrong often enough they turn right. They got "literally"??? SIGH. Language evolves. Usage evolves and definitions evolve and grammar evolves. Live with the change. Change is good. Embrace our ever changing language. It is much better than the alternatives, either a star chamber of academics who decide what is correct usage, or a language that is horridly out of date. That is what seperates liberal grammarians from hard-line grammarians. And other practises, like splitting infinitives, ending sentences with prepositions, using too many commas, and starting sentences with conjunctions. >As it happens, I am a frothing at the mouth supporter of both of these fine >rules. It is SO nice to know I'm not alone. Right. As long as 'unique' has its current definition, it is unmodifiable. A fine rule. And as long as we continue to differentiate between discrete quantities and continuous quantities, less and fewer will both have their proper place. Another fine rule. Put your efforts there, and they will not be wasted. - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:22:58 GMT From: elinX@rff.org (Rodney Elin) Subject: Re: Fw: F&F for C (was Re: FruCon II) You seemed to ask this rhetroically, but I want to respond anyway. Forget for a moment about an actual benefit concert, but consider the band itself. Moxy Fruvous is, we will presume here, one of your favorite bands. You have paid to see them numerous times, you own all five of their albums, you have probably bought MF swag: t-shirts and caps and stuff. Moxy Fruvous has many times declared many of their political beliefs, including the fact that they are pro-choice. I think it is reasonable to assume that MF does things to support pro-choice causes, and that many of those things they could not do if they were not as popular a band. For one thing, individual bandmembers might give cash contributions to a partiular pro-choice organization. It is their own money, but they get it, in part, because you go to their shows and purchase their stuff. Does that mean that you are supporting the causes MF bandmembers support? Sort of. But, even if you know this, will you still go to their shows? (ASSUMPTOIN HERE: you personally oppose these beliefs.) I'm guessing that you *would* go to shows. The reasoning would go something like this: "well, they only make a very small portion of their income from me personally, and only a small percentage of that is used for this cause, so it is not like I am really supporting their cause, I'm just going to the show." Personally, I can respect such a decision. There is only so much you can do to seperate yourself from causes you don't support. I purchase things at JC Penney, but I don't know if the CEO of Pennies contributes to causes I don't support. I trust that the Starkist tuna I buy is dolphin safe, but I don't know if the same tuna clippers that sell to Starkist also sell cheaper, dolphin-unsafe tuna to developing countries. I don't think I want to know. Anyhow, back to MF and now a benefit concert for choice. It seems, via all of the above assumptions (you are opposed to the cause and you go to their shows and buy their albums anyway) that the decision to go to this particular show is a matter of scale. A much larger percentage of your ticket price will go to this cause. A noticible percentage (like most or all of it.) It says so explicity in the name of the program. But, how much is your $8, or $20 or even $50 contribution really going to do for the cause you don't believe in? Some, but not much. How about a compromise: Go to the show, and pay for the ticket, but at the same time send an equal amount (or how about twice the amount) of money to a cause you support? It sort of cancells your contribution out, in a larger sense, doesn't it? While you are at it, you can write a polite note to the band explaining your concerns and what it is you did. I am sure I would think twice if someone told me "I'm giving you $10, but I am giving the cause you oppose $20 because I don't see any other way to see you in this environment." So, to answer your question, if the show were a cause I didn't agree in, I would still go, and then I would contribute twice as much to the cause I did support. On 15 Aug 1998 04:32:44 GMT, ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster) wrote: >If the show was a cause that *you* didn't agree in, what would you do? What if >it was in your hometown? No response required here...just something to think >over... - --Rodney (Oops! It looks like I accidentally put an extra character in my email address. To reply to this message, remove the letter X) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 1998 14:31:56 GMT From: affannat@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Kelly D Affannato) Subject: Intra_PA Rivalry Hello all! Tis, I back from fanning the flames of the Intra Pennsylvania Rivalry. This weekend my mother and I drove from Philly t Pittsburgh, carrying spades and pitchfroks...ok, we didn't, but we razzed every person we saw wearing a Steelers shirt after our Eagles won..... HAHA! Moxy in the car, wind at our backs, and Rednecks aplenty. What fun! - --->Kelly Silver7 on irc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 14:36:51 GMT From: gemini@p3.net (Trace) Subject: Re: Moxy on IRC On Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:21:32 GMT, snonsumr@my-dejanews.com wrote: >could someone repost the servers to get on IRC? i'm not on it yet & >accidently deleted the post & the addresses for them. *fwaps self* so if >someone could suggest a good IRC server, i would greatly appreciate it. >Thanks- Snow -- > >i dig your girlfriend. > >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- >http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum You can get a nice listing of Undernet servers at http://www.nv.us.undernet.org/ Trace ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:44:31 -0400 From: "^kat^" Subject: moxy concert pics! ok, so i'm a bit behind, but last night i spent a good bit of time updating my webpage & adding 2 sets of pictures from the 6.6 & 6.23.98 moxy concerts i attended. if anyone out there's interested, go here: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4014/moxy.html and even if you're not interested -- go there. it'll make me feel better. :) looking forward to those ohio tourdates in the fall-- ^kat^ "when it rains it snows -- i wonder why" ------------------------------ Date: 17 Aug 1998 16:02:51 GMT From: Gruneberg Veronica J <6vjg@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re:getting hit on via moxy shirt #2 LOL. I really like that shirt, and was very tempted to buy it, but then I realized that (given my group of friends) wearing it could make my life just a little *too* intersting! :) - -- ***************************************************************************** And in the end | Veronica Gruneberg The love you take | Dept. of Biology Is equal to the love | Queen's University You make... | Kingston, Ontario ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #309 ********************************************