From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #223 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Friday, August 7 1998 Volume 01 : Number 223 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Is Jian gay? [melissa ] Moxy in Toronto ["Jenner" ] seeking a temporary list administrator [Ofer Inbar ] Re: Toronto [shweiss17@aol.com (SHWeiss17)] Re: Jian's Cool! [Richard B ] Re: Is Jian gay? [zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod)] I like to go out dancing... [Ambush Bug ] Trina this weekend! [Ofer Inbar ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 00:50:28 GMT From: melissa Subject: Re: Is Jian gay? > >Jian, keep everyone guessing, man. :) Oh, and Melissa...whether Jian is gay > >or not, I think he still eats dinner. (giggle) YES!...but i wonder what he likes... melissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:32:20 -0400 From: "Jenner" Subject: Moxy in Toronto hi Guys. Im going to the gig tomorrow night @ Mel Lastman's Square. I know its on yongue street but... I'm not from toronto and I have NO idea what Mel Lastman's square is. Can Anyone help me? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 01:30:13 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: seeking a temporary list administrator I'm leaving in a few days for a 3 week vacation. During that time, my net access will be sporadic. So, I'm looking for a volunteer who is interested in being the mailing list administrator for the ammf news to mail gateway while I'm gone, August 10 - September 1. Here are the qualifications: - Generally familiar with the net, email, news - Some familiarity with listserv, majordomo, or something similar - Will be online regularly, several times a day, with no absences expected to last more than a day or two at a time - Reads most or all of the postings in ammf Jason Reiser had told me he was interested, but I've had no luck contacting him over the past few days, and I'm really looking for someone who's going to be paying attention to the list regularly, perhaps he doesn't have time for that. In any case, I need to get someone soon because I'm about to leave. If you're interested, pleace email me at cos@wbrs.org. Thanks! -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- The Left Bank Operation -- lbo@leftbank.com http://www.leftbank.com/ "Good literature is about Love and War." "Junk fiction is about Sex and Violence." ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1998 01:39:37 GMT From: shweiss17@aol.com (SHWeiss17) Subject: Re: Toronto >Dot0926 wrote: >> >> >"Demetriou, Melanie" > >> >Well, all you guys 'n' gals going to the bonus shows, have >> >yourselves an *awesome* weekend!! Try to keep us homebodies >> >in your thoughts as you sway to The Drinking Song.... >> >> sorry if this is a "me too" post, but i just want to second that >> thought. i hope you guys ( and gals, of course) have a wonderful >> time ( how can you not? - ken, i stole that from you...). anyway, >> i hope the bonus weekend will be an amazing experience for all >> of you. have a blast! > >yet another "me too" post. > >and, what they said. only, double. :) > And still, yet another "me too" - have a wonderful time in Toronto (like it's even remotely possible to not have a wonderful time in Toronto). I was seriously considering heading up myself, until my friend called me up and invited me to go with her to the HORDE festival in Philly on Saurday, to which she has won two tickets WITH BACKSTAGE PASSES! I GET TO MEET THE GUYS FROM BNL! YIPEE!!!!!! (no, I'm not psyched or anything!) :-D Safe travels to all of you - have a great time! - - Sue * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Nothing really matters like you think it does anyway" - Frances Dunnery ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 13:59:54 +0000 From: Richard B Subject: Re: Jian's Cool! Colleen Campbell wrote: > As to whether we can believe anything Jian says on stage, or off, > whether about his sex life or not--well, clearly, I'd take anything > any of the Lads said with a whole shaker of salt. Hmm, a small note of dissention here. I have been known to be rather camp in my time, darlings, and I usually do it to annoy people I know or believe to be homophobes. Maybe Jian is ambiguous *in order* to generate discussion about homosexuality. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't know, I'm just speculating. Like any sort of bigotry, once you get it out in the open and talk about it people realise its nonsense and then eventually it disapates. Being camp, or out and out gay forces people to deal with the issue. Although there's a lot to be said for minding your own business, its also quite satisfying to note that we can all talk about homosexuality without anyone going `Aiee, backs to the walls' or quoting obscure bits of Leviticus. Maybe Jian's ambiguity has in some way helped to bring about this state of affairs. (I must say the few times I've seen Moxy I hadn't noticed any explicit ambiguity, but maybe I wasn't looking.) It must be very bizarre for Jian if he is reading all this though. Or maybe he's just laughing his head off. > Why is it so important to us to be able to box up those our society > has fastened on as idols? I think the question is why do we need idols at all? I think the answer is because a `relationship' with an idol is easy. If you're in love with someone utterly unattainable then, by definition, they're not going to turn around and say `Pfui, you look ugly this morning' like real people have an annoying habit of saying (to me at least). If an idol is a safe `practice run' for a real relationship then that's fine, its when the idol is more important than the real people around you then you have problems. I could drivel on about people at Diana's funeral who said they were more upset about Diana dying than their parents, or Kurt Cobain etc etc. Oh and I'm not elevating myself in this one -- I recently met a cartoonist who I've worshipped for years I was a complete tongue tied bubbling buffoon about it. > ceecee, teetering atop a stack of soapboxes Good view from up here isn't it? Pip pip Richard ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1998 03:13:19 GMT From: zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod) Subject: Re: Is Jian gay? Melissa wrote: >Jian is gay >> >or not, I think he still eats dinner. (giggle) > >YES!...but i wonder what he likes... > > Oh, any old perch platter that's coming down the pike'll do! - -Zard "Veni, Vidi, Velcro" - I came, I saw, I stuck around. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Aug 1998 03:12:14 GMT From: Ambush Bug Subject: I like to go out dancing... (OK, actually I don't like to dance, much, but I was curious and the title just fit...) I've only seen one show. It was at the Birchmere in Virginia. Nobody dances at the Birchmere. It just isn't done or something. I dunno. But I was curious: do people dance at Fruvous shows normally? I've been to quite a few TMBG shows where there is always dancing, to the point where if it becomes too ...energetic... They will ask the audience to not be a danger to themselves or others. Does this happen occasionally -- ever -- at Fruvous shows? I'm asking out of curiousity; I stay in the no-passing zone, but some of the songs are too good to sit still. AB - -- It's not not; it's net. Try Koplio's Story! Get it at http://www.aliensoft.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:02:37 GMT From: Ofer Inbar Subject: Trina this weekend! I know a lot of you ammf denizens are going to be spending the weekend in Toronto, but I think at least a few of you are planning to go to the Newport Folk Festival. I just wanted to put in a plug for one of mine and Colleen's favorite artists, Trina Hamlin. She's a singer songwriter with a rock & blues background, who plays the harmonica extremely well and is one of the most passionate singers I've seen. Trina is doing not one, but *two* sets at Newport! She's the first set on the main stage on Sunday, at 11am. After that, she has a set on the second stage, 12 or 12:30 or something like that. She's recently written some new songs we haven't heard yet, and said that her two sets will be different. So if you're going to Newport on Sunday, don't be late! Don't miss her. (keep in mind spending up to an hour in traffic in Newport itself, if you're driving - the entire flow of traffic to the festival is funnelled through a small one way on lane street along the waterfront and some of the main tourist areas) -- Cos (Ofer Inbar) -- cos@leftbank.com cos@cs.brandeis.edu -- WBRS (100.1 FM) -- WBRS@brandeis.edu http://www.wbrs.org/ NBC News: GE's Advertising and Public Relations Agency ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #223 ********************************************