From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #172 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, July 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Oswego Directions [dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin)] Re: King of Prussia [cricket5@my-dejanews.com] Re: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracuse [Richa] RE: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracus ["Hartf] Re: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracus [Richar] Re: Origin of YWGTTM [dalevy@aol.com (DALevy)] Re: Trying to figure out the "horseshoes" metaphor... [mikep@-spamblock-i] RE: Trying to figure out the "horseshoes" metaphor... ["Demetriou, Melani] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:40:29 GMT From: dacilen@bu.edu (Vika Zafrin) Subject: Re: Oswego Directions On 27 Jul 1998 22:54:05 GMT, ourhamster@aol.com (OurHamster) wrote: >>Me too. My parents Just Don't Get It, though Mom liked MBLABOA in the >>car on the way to Tanglewood. Plus, I'd be mortified. Even though I'm >>26, my parents can still Instantly Embarass me in public. >> >>--Adam > >My parents were stage Dave, I was stage Murray :) > >--Novac I had a very interesting time introducing my parents and brother, and his wife, to Moxy Fruvous on any kind of serious level. Last Christmas, I brought my Fruvous videos tape to California, where we were all congregating. My brother and his wife didn't look overly impressed - this doesn't seem to be their "kind" of music. It wasn't my parents' kind of music, either, but they seemed to appreciate *why* I liked them, and admitted they had talent. The thing that stands out to me is that both my parents had to deal with the language barrier, and actually *concentrated* on the lyrics (though I'm sure they didn't understand them 100%, but they were captivated enough to be trying to). With my father, this is especially remarkable because he gets very frustrated with the language barrier thing (our native language is Russian, and they came to this country well over 50 y.o. each, so they didn't completely assimilate English), but he was making a visible effort. He got particularly shaken by Down From Above, asking me uncertainly at the end, "What was that about?" (and meaning, Was that about what I THINK it was about? - Yes, dad, you got it...) I was fascinated. So were they. They didn't completely understand it, and it's definitely not my folks' preferred music genre, but they *appreciated* it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vika [VEE-kah] Zafrin Patron Saint of Caffeine dacilen at bu dot edu aka Coffee Fru "You and your hula dance of culinary delight..." -ceecee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:35:22 GMT From: cricket5@my-dejanews.com Subject: Re: King of Prussia In article <1998072804063600.AAA16921@ladder03.news.aol.com>, zardsnod@aol.com (ZardSnod) wrote: I emailed for directions today, and got them within 15 minutes, and > the guy said "come early" but I didn't find out why - traffic, good seats, > what... All of the above, actually, Zard. This is a Summer Concert Series that is rather well attended no matter who's playing, let alone a band that gets local radio play. There is, I believe, an opener who will probably start promptly at 7pm. If you get there early, you will get good seats AND good parking...good parking being the lot directly behind the Upper Merion Township Building. Bad parking would be the spillover field about a block or two away. (Not really far, but somewhat annoying to have to wander back there in the dark.) There should be police officers directing traffic. Just reminder, folks, "seats" are your own little section of grass in a big old field with little lighting. Bring a blanket. Mary cricket5@hotmail.com - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:14:06 +0100 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracuse Vika Zafrin wrote: > and the violin, imho, is one of THE most > difficult instruments to learn. I'll vouch for that. I spent six months trying to get a passable sound out of a violin and failed pathetically. In theory I shouldn't have found it too difficult, because I play the mandolin, which is just a violin with frets and no bow, but no, after six months of diligent practice it still sounded like a cat banshee party. However a friend tells me that learning the violin is nothing compared to learning bag-pipes. A theory I don't think I'm going to test. Maybe Dave could take up bag-pipes. Would be interesting in Fell in Love, for example. `And the sunshine shone from the sunshine above. HOOOOONNNK!' Pip pip Richard - ------------------------------------------------ Who knows what mystic thoughts may be whispering among the mossy groves of his crutty shins? (Spike Milligna -- the well known typing error.) - ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:48:19 GMT From: "Hartfield Adam (Lud)" Subject: RE: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracus > Vika Zafrin wrote: > > > and the violin, imho, is one of THE most > > difficult instruments to learn. > > I'll vouch for that. I spent six months trying to get a . . . > Love, for example. `And the sunshine shone from the sunshine above. >HOOOOONNNK!' > > Pip pip > Richard Hrm. This is making me have second thoughts about eventually restoring my antique violin and learning to play it. But it seems such a shame to just have it sitting in its gorgeous case, doing nothing, not having been played in at least 30 years or so. - --Adam adam.hartfield@dev.artioslink.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:03:30 +0100 From: Richard Butterworth Subject: Re: Like a Dog in a Butcher Shop: Fruvous at Styleen's in Syracus Hartfield Adam (Lud) wrote: > Hrm. This is making me have second thoughts about eventually restoring > my antique violin and learning to play it. Heavens, don't take any notice of me. An unplayed musical instrument is like an unread book -- such a waste. Cough. You do have tolerant neighbours though? Pip pip Richard - ------------------------------------------------ Who knows what mystic thoughts may be whispering among the mossy groves of his crutty shins? (Spike Milligna -- the well known typing error.) - ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1998 15:01:36 GMT From: dalevy@aol.com (DALevy) Subject: Re: Origin of YWGTTM And the book is most cool. It was a semenal piece for those of us growing up in the 60s. I'm extremely fortunate, as one of my very good and incredibly thoughtful friends tracked down a hardbound copy of the original book and presented it to me at the Columbia show. My original copy probably is in my parents' garage somewhere, too. Doug Levy San Francisco DALevy@NOSPAM.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1998 11:11:41 -0400 From: mikep@-spamblock-izzy.net (Michael Pelletier) Subject: Re: Trying to figure out the "horseshoes" metaphor... In article <1998072701473500.VAA02139@ladder03.news.aol.com>, DALevy wrote: >Washington Post Writer John Schwartz explains a reasonable interpretation >of it in his article in today's Arts section. You can find it on >www.washingtonpost.com. The URL is: -Mike Pelletier. - -- - -- "[It will] be very hard to increase browser share on the merits of [Internet Explorer] alone. It will be more important to leverage the OS asset to make people use IE instead of Navigator." -- Christian Wildfeuer, a Microsoft Manager ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:29:42 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: Trying to figure out the "horseshoes" metaphor... On Monday, July 27, 1998 5:07 PM, wahrend@my-dejanews.com [SMTP:wahrend@my-dejanews.com] wrote: > I always thought of it in this light: > > Basically people do things which put them in a situation for hurt (i.e. they > set themselves up for the fall). You know the danger, you know the doom, and > still you place yourself at the mercy of someone else and expect not to get > hurt (kind of depressing thought). But you've already lost and that the best > away to avoid such self-distruction is to not give out the horseshoes in the > first place. > > "wild" Bill (a little melancoly after a cheery morning...) Yup, I think of it this way, too. It's about the foolishness of giving away your personal control over your life, or your happiness, whatever. In that manner, you "hand out" your horseshoe, rather than "tossing" it and seeing where it lands. You actually *place* it into someone else's hands for them to toss. Interestingly, I have done all three of the scenarios presented in this song. Stupid doesn't seem to fade with age! Melanie ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #172 ********************************************