From: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org (alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest) To: ammf-digest@smoe.org Subject: alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #129 Reply-To: ammf@smoe.org Sender: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ammf-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Monday, July 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 129 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Taping live shows: equipment, advice? [Shear Excitement ] Re: Warning Stickers (was: greetings from Alberta!) [BEQS26C@prodigy.com ] RE: greetings from Alberta! [wahrend@my-dejanews.com] RE: greetings from Alberta! ["Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: Re: Taping live shows: equipment, advice? Ben Cordes wrote: > I'm planning on going to the show at Faneuil Hall in Boston at the end > of this month, and I've been thinking about trying to tape it. Does > anyone have any advice as to a) asking permission, b) what equipment > to use, c) soundboard vs. audience (remember, this is an outside > concert), or d) anything else that might be relevant? If you have windscreens for your DAT mics, then an audience tape is fine; otherwise use a soundboard patch. Personally, I prefer the sound on a D>AUD tape to a SBD, but even a slight breeze will ruin a perfectly good tape. The band generally doesn't have a problem w/people taping its shows, so I don't see anyone telling you no. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:17:02 GMT From: cricket5@hotmail.com Subject: Re: warning stickers? In article <6ovi6a$ar$1@tank.charm.net>, elrond@fellspt.charm.net (Matt James) wrote: > Hi, > I was a bit befuddled to hear the chatter about warning stickers on > Live Noise. There was no Warning Sticker on the copies of the CD > I bought in Baltimore. So my question is where are these warning > stickered Live Noises be sold? Is it in certain cities/towns? Or is > it just in certain stores? I always thought that if a CD had a > Warning Sticker they were on every CD sold in the country. > Does anyone know? I'm not entirely sure, Matt. But I *DO* know that in the Borders Bookstore that Fruvous was at, they did *NOT* have warning stickers. However, last night, in Tower Records (Upper Merion, PA - just outside of Philly), they did indeed have warning stickers. And a SLEW of Fruvous cds despite a misspelled label for their section. Mary cricket5@hotmail.com - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:25:15 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: Boston gig I checked FDC for information on the Fanueil Hall date, but found nothing. Could someone fill me in? I'm close enough to go; I'd hate to miss it due to lack of info. Melanie ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 1998 19:25:02 GMT From: BEQS26C@prodigy.com (Brian Nicholson) Subject: Re: Warning Stickers (was: greetings from Alberta!) man, this sucks. My parents are extremely conservative and I would be screwed if they saw a copy with the sticker. weird though... they played live noise at Tower records the day i bought my copy. I came in during the middle of video bargainville and they played the album, straight through, to the end. This includes "Kasparov vs. Deep Blue". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:07:34 GMT From: wahrend@my-dejanews.com Subject: RE: greetings from Alberta! In article <7F76BD657941D1118AEF00805FFEC9C0012B8E48@exch3>, "Demetriou, Melanie" wrote: > On Sunday, July 19, 1998 2:17 PM, MTKeener [SMTP:keenerms@ix.netcom.com] > wrote: > > Then Melanie wrote: > > >Minors are part of the public, but they're not part of the voting public. > > >Politically or economically. Althought people under 18 do consititute a > > >large sector of the marketplace, by and large, their purchasing power is > > >linked to their parents'. I know many teens have jobs, but not nearly > > enough > > >to make them a market force. So the government & the businesses cater to > > the > > >parents (and other adults), not to the kids. This is How It Works. And, > as > > >Vika points out, no-one is saying you can't buy it. (Unless the CD store > > >itself has a policy, and then you, as a member of the economic voting > > >public, can shop elsewhere. That is also How It Works.) > > > > > then Matt chimed in: > > > > People under 18 indeed are likely to be limited by their parents' > purchasing > > power, but they also are a strong influence at what their parents buy -- > > look at contemporary advertising and see who the targets are, be it > records > > or cigarettes or fish sticks, children carry a lot of purchasing clout. > > They are a huge market force. > > I realized after I posted that I had misspoken. Kids, both the under 12 and > teen age groups, are a huge market force. What I meant was that advertisers > must bear in mind that kids spend their parents' money, so advertising must > appeal to the target group enough to make them want it, without offending > their parents enough to make them say no to the purchase. > > Cigarettes don't count. The cigarette companies play dirty pool. They're > just out to get people addicted and they don't care about the rest of it. > They know that the warning on their packages don't mean a hill of beans to a > 13 year old who thinks it's cool to smoke. Bastards. (right on... ) Don't want to sound too cynical, but most advertising is like this. Money is spent to appeal to younger people since their spending habits haven't been formed yet. Cigarettes are unique since they are an addicting drug, true. The big deal is to reach kids and influence them to buy your product once they become a "productive" member of society. Once a person decides to use a product typically unless there is something radical that goes on (company goes out of business, cost of product goes way up, something radically different comes out on the market) they stick with that product. Like coke vs pepsi. Essentially the same product, but people who drink one somehow have a distaste for the other (same deal w/ toothpaste, and soap, and..etc etc etc). "wild" Bill (jamming out to the new BNL CD) > Melanie > - -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp Create Your Own Free Member Forum ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:00:35 GMT From: "Demetriou, Melanie" Subject: RE: greetings from Alberta! On Monday, July 20, 1998 3:08 PM, wahrend@my-dejanews.com [SMTP:wahrend@my-dejanews.com] wrote: > Don't want to sound too cynical, but most advertising is like this. Money is > spent to appeal to younger people since their spending habits haven't been > formed yet. Cigarettes are unique since they are an addicting drug, true. > The big deal is to reach kids and influence them to buy your product once > they become a "productive" member of society. Once a person decides to use a > product typically unless there is something radical that goes on (company > goes out of business, cost of product goes way up, something radically > different comes out on the market) they stick with that product. Like coke > vs pepsi. Essentially the same product, but people who drink one somehow > have a distaste for the other (same deal w/ toothpaste, and soap, and..etc > etc etc). If that's cynical, I guess I'm a cynic. (I thought I was a realist.) I'm all for the free market (ask anyone), but sometimes advertising tactics go over the line. I evaluated what you said against my personal experience with brand loyalty, looking for ways to disprove it, and instead discovered that I've used the same toothpaste, shampoo, deodorant, perfume, cosmetics, etc etc etc, since I was about 12! That's over 20 years, sports fans! I am reluctantly forced to acknowledge your point. (Not reluctant because of you, but because of how depressing it is.) Still, using Aim Toothpaste for the rest of my life won't kill me. Smoking will. (And, yes, I do.) Melanie ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 1998 20:24:57 GMT From: stussy666@aol.com (STUSSY666) Subject: Re: Moxy Tshirts I can't complain about the price of Fru shirts, I made my own for my last show because I still don't own any. And I didn't really rip off anything copyrighted other than the name "Moxy Fruvous". I would have gladly shelled out the 25-30 bucks for a shirt had they been sold at the store. And as a personal horror story I paid close to $40 for a marilyn manson "dead to the world" tour shirt. Like Cal said sometimes the venues slap on a higher price to make profits. That was definitly the case at that show. Yeah, I know I'm strange, I like fruvous and manson, maybe I'm just diverse. Oh well, I'll see you at the harborfest (if the car doesn't break down), - -Erich the guy with the homemade Mountain Fru shirt - -Erich ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jul 1998 20:13:36 GMT From: stussy666@aol.com (STUSSY666) Subject: Re: BARK like a dog @ Harborfest Y'all remember a couple of months ago, I was raving about a local Boston band, BARK like a dog? How I think they have all this tremendous stage energy and great musicianship? Well, I finally get to tie that in properly with the Fruvous newsgroup. The mailing from them today: "The following week, we're playing at Harborfest in Oswego, New York. If you're from that area, or want to get out of Boston for a great weekend, this is the place to be. It's a huge outdoor festival all weekend with thousands of people, food, music, etc. We are playing Friday, 7/24 at 4:30 on the main stage. Immediately folowing us is a band called MoxyFrovous. They're from Canada and are considered to be the "next Bare Naked Ladies." If you can get there, do it!!!" Unfortunately, I myself will be at Falcon Ridge that day. (Well, not unfortunately. VERY fortunately. Just unconducively-to-seeing-BLAD-at-Harborfest.) But I really encourage those of you who're going to show up early enough to catch this act. I was just listening to their CD today before getting the mailing, and I was again reminded of how much fun Scott is to watch whilst he jumps frenetically around in his kilt and sings, "Why do you like me when I act like a bastard?" Remember, this is the only other group I've ever heard to use "Green Eggs & Ham" in their lyrics! Me, I'm seeing Fruvous Wednesday, BARK like a dog and Jim's Big Ego Thursday, Fruvous Friday, and Dar Williams and Eddie From Ohio (among others) over the weekend. Does it get any better? (Well, okay, yes, 'cause next weekend is Falcon Ridge and two weeks after that it's Newport, and if you can come up with a lineup more appealing to me than Indigo Girls, Dar, Ani, Cheryl Wheeler, Trina Hamlin, Loudon Wainwright, Marc Cohn, Brooks Williams, and half a dozen others, I might not survive the experience.) Anyway, see some of y'all this week! ceecee _____________________________________________ sounds like fun. I guess I'd better get there early to catch both BLAD and snag a front row spot. there is no way I'm forgetting my camera this time. I hope fruvous will be selling shirts and whatnot, I really want a shirt. See everybody at the harborfest, - -Erich The Mountain Fru Guy ------------------------------ End of alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest V1 #129 ********************************************