From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #345 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, December 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 345 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Found it !! [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Found it !! [Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com>] Re: Alloy: Amish [Kathleen McClelland ] RE: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy: Childish Thoughts [Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com>] Re: Alloy: School? (was: Childish Thoughts) [Eclipse ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:26:39 EST From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Found it !! In a message dated 21/12/98 18:54:56 GMT, Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: << I have that album where he is on the stage with the globe and all. Kate;) >> Kate, By what you guys are saying, this must be the most common version in USA?........ I've never seen this cover in all my years as a Dolbyite (except on the 12" version of Europa And The Pirate Twins of course)..... Trev B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:48:09 -0500 From: Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Alloy: Found it !! Message text written by INTERNET:alloy@smoe.org >Kate, By what you guys are saying, this must be the most common version in USA?........ I've never seen this cover in all my years as a Dolbyite (except on the 12" version of Europa And The Pirate Twins of course)..... Trev B.< Trev, I've got them both and have no idea which is more common here. I will say that whenever I see that album in a used record store that it has the cover of him as a mad scientist, not the one with the metal globe. Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:24:10 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Amish I totally agree with getting back to basics. I like to work with leather. I even made a leather belt for myself with an intricate Celtic design on it. One day I want to get into making patchwork quilts like some of the women in my family have done. Carrying on family traditions is wonderful thing as you get older! Wa Wula Milesi, Kate;) Charles E. Kemp wrote: > > > > Not in the immediate Boston area, but there are communities in the Northeast > > (& yes, I do live in Boston!) I've always admired their lifestyle & their > > seemingly limitless skills in every discipline, IMO they are reminders of real > > human potential in these days of rampant couch potato-ism. > > Here in Indiana we have a lot of Amish folk, and their religious cousins > the Mennonites. Basically the difference between the two is that > Mennonites don't see electricity as evil. > > But, because of the large numbers of Amish Hoosiers, we see a lot of > their handicrafts about, particularly furniture and metalworks but also > the most exquisite quilts you'll ever lay eyes on. Which, gives me a bit > of inspiration as to my current thought process in my quest to aquire > something resembling sanity. I have this desire to "get back to basics" > in my life and one of those things is to spend less hours working on my > CRT tan and devote some time to getting back into woodworking. Nothing > fancy, mind you, just some chairs and tables. It will take me a few > years to get my skills back to the point where I could confidently tackle > anything along the lines of a bed or a curio cabinet...although I may > attempt an entertainment center. > > But, on a more lighthearted note, another side effect of there being so > many amish folk in the Great State of Indiana is that they are the butt > of quite a few jokes, one of the best being a joke band called the > Electric Amish. Three guys reworking classic rock tunes into a string of > Amish jokes, with song titles such as... > > She's from Goshen (Aerosmith's Sweet Emotion) > Gimme Three Pigs (Lynyrd Skynyrd's Gimme Three Steps) > Black Bonnet Girls (Queen's Fat Bottom Girls) > Come Together (and build a barn) > > but, for more information, get thee to www.electricamish.com > > ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** > Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the > world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:27:34 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Found it !! Trev, I found this album in a used record shop in Santa Barbara, California. I'm sure there are albums that T.D. put out in England and Europe that aren't available in the USA unfortunately. Wa Wula Milesi, Kate;) TBlagg@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 21/12/98 18:54:56 GMT, > Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: > > << I have that album where he is on the stage with the globe and all. > > Kate;) > >> > > Kate, By what you guys are saying, this must be the most common version in > USA?........ I've never seen this cover in all my years as a Dolbyite (except > on the 12" version of Europa And The Pirate Twins of course)..... > > Trev B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:30:11 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Wa Wula Milesi/'80s pics/Y2K Wa Wula Milesi means 'Have a good day' in the Native American Lenni Lenape (Deleware) language. Aloha to you too Julia (Eclipse). Kate;) Eclipse wrote: > >Message text written by INTERNET:alloy@smoe.org > >>Rochelle, > >Well, I knew of a radio show broadcasted out of Santa Barbara on Sunday > >nights > >called 'Space Pirate Radio' put on by Guy Gooden. This radio show played a > >lot > >of Dolby's musice, especially the song 'Field work'. Guy Gooden kinda knew > >TD. > >Used to listen to this show. I met Guy Gooden who was quite impressed with > >TD. > >This was in the late eighties. So, there you go. how's that for trivia.?? > > > >Wa Wula Milesi, > >Kate;)< > > > >That's very cool! As for the radio station, see my previous comment (now > >I'm even more homesick for California radio stations!) > > > >Rochelle > > > >BTW, what's Wa Wula Milesi (I'm guessing it's Hawaiian for something) > > Welina, (<-- old fashioned Hawaiian greeting :) ) > > That's not Hawaiian! Although it looks polynesianish because every > syllable has a vowel in it. :) I have no idea what language it is, but the > Hawaiian alphabet doesn't have an "s" in it.. maybe it's the native > american language Kate speaks? "Milasi" means love in Solresol, but it's a > vowel off.. ;) > > (note for new people: I taught myself Hawaiian.. :) I love it.. :) Will > talk about/in it to any interested parties..) > > BTW: Aloha Kate! & Rochelle! & allll you other new people! I've been very > incredibly busy (ever have one of those weeks where you fall in love AND > realize that the end of the world is at hand? Oh, never mind..). Re: > Melissa's Who were you in the '80s? question, I'll dig up a picture > tomorrow from TGAOW-era (1982ish)... I was small and red and wrinkly and > awfully darn cute! ;) I -have- had time to keep up with the listserv > lately and it's been awfully nice reading everyone's posts :), tho I > haven't yet had a chance to check out alot of the URLs that have been posted. > > I don't remember if anyone's brought this up before, but what do all you > people, esp. the IT people, think of the whole Y2K thing? > > Bliss, > E(lipse / Julia > > (powered by the high chorus from U2's "The Fly" running over and over in my > head.. ("Love, we shine like a burning star, we're fallin' from the > sky..tonight..")) > > http://www2.cybercities.com/t/thecove/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:26:23 -0500 From: ccannady@co.wake.nc.us Subject: Alloy: Re: TBlagg, Kathleen & Slarvibarg !!! Hey guys, Thanks for the reply. It was really good to hear from you all !!! I feel like "this maybe the beginning of a beautiful relationship!!!!" (Forgive my American clich?s - I swear to you we're not as drool as we appear to be.) I'm getting ready to leave the office on holiday so I will be outta the loop for awhile. Kathleen, HAPPY Belated Birthday !!! I was going to send you a lava lamp but didn't know what color lava you wanted... please advise. By the way, funny you should mention it, MY birthday is December 29 (send all gifts and proceeds to: etc.... ) (We Capricorns have to stick together.... agree?) Gotta run and meet some of my co-horts for some suds... "It's Miller tiiiiime at the baaaar where all the English meet..." http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Pier/8619/index.html Take it slow, Christopher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:10:28 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or the Winter Solstice, I wish each of you joy for the holidays, and I hope you are all blessed with happiness, good health, and prosperity in the new year. Having been raised Catholic, I will of course, light holiday candles for the "special intentions" of the Alloy community: - -- May you find that elusive copy of "The Golden Age of Wireless" that has eluded you until now (you know, the one with "Leipzig" and "Urges" on it, or the one with the longer version of "Airwaves" or the one with "She Blinded Me With Science" with the cool drums at the end) - -- May Our Fearless Leader grace us with new music and a live performance somewhere to carry us blissfully through to the next millennium Happy holidays to you all. Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan "With the coming of winter, heaven will rain down success upon you" -- fortune cookie I got on December 20th. (and no comments about adding the phrase "in bed" to the end of that...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:14:44 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed WAHHHEEYYY ! TED !!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO HEAVEN LADS !!!!! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:29:00 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed Melissa, Happy holidays to you too.We celebrate Channukah, Winter Solstice and regular Christmas. Hey, guess we like to celebrate a lot. I'm going to search for that elusive song 'Fieldword' this Christmas season. It'll be my present to myself. At least I have downloaded a film clip of the video 'Fieldwork'. Wish there was some way to Email 'The Man' an electronic Seasons Greetings card. Maybe a Scottish greeting card would do, or maybe a scientific one. Who knows!! Anyway, talk to ya later. I'll be writing messages all the way up to the 24th since I'll be working on Christmas eve day. Isn't corporate America wonderful!! Wa Wula Milesi, Kate;) MacSuirtain wrote: > Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, or the Winter > Solstice, I wish each of you joy for the holidays, and I hope you are > all blessed with happiness, good health, and prosperity in the new year. > > Having been raised Catholic, I will of course, light holiday candles for > the "special intentions" of the Alloy community: > > -- May you find that elusive copy of "The Golden Age of Wireless" that > has eluded you until now (you know, the one with "Leipzig" and "Urges" > on it, or the one with the longer version of "Airwaves" or the one with > "She Blinded Me With Science" with the cool drums at the end) > > -- May Our Fearless Leader grace us with new music and a live > performance somewhere to carry us blissfully through to the next > millennium > > Happy holidays to you all. > > Cheers, > > Melissa > > -- > Melissa R. Jordan > "With the coming of winter, heaven will rain down success upon you" -- > fortune cookie I got on December 20th. > (and no comments about adding the phrase "in bed" to the end of that...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:30:00 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed AND LASSES!!!!! CAN'T FORGET US WOMEN FOLK!! Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > WAHHHEEYYY ! TED !!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO HEAVEN LADS !!!!! > > ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:34:31 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed sorry ..... that would be an ecumenical matter . . . . (with apologies to the Ted-challenged) - -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen McClelland [mailto:Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 12:30 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: A Holiday Wish For The Alloy'ed AND LASSES!!!!! CAN'T FORGET US WOMEN FOLK!! Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > WAHHHEEYYY ! TED !!! WE'RE ALL GOING TO HEAVEN LADS !!!!! > > ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:08:38 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Errrr... Dang. I forgot Ramadan in my holiday greeting. Consider it included in my head, if not in my typed ramblings... Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:41:04 -0500 From: Rochelle Kirby <104040.2055@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Alloy: Childish Thoughts Message text written by INTERNET:alloy@smoe.org >If you'd like more specific/extensive material, I still have stories, diary entries and dream journal entries that I wrote during that period, and would be quite willing to share parts from them with you.< This has been wonderful! Yes, please share more. I think prepubesant (did I spell that correctly?) would fit my needs best. What kind of things did you do/talk about/dream about with your friends. Your assistance in this is greatly appreciated by me! Of course, your earlier comment begs the question: why did you leave school at age 10? Rochelle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:29:35 From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Alloy: School? (was: Childish Thoughts) Rochelle... >This has been wonderful! Yes, please share more. I think prepubesant (did >I spell that correctly?) would fit my needs best. What kind of things did >you do/talk about/dream about with your friends. Your assistance in this >is greatly appreciated by me! Will dig up old writings and things and pass them on to you privately, probably some time tonight! :) >Of course, your earlier comment begs the question: why did you leave school >at age 10? Ahhhh.. Couldn't find a school I liked. The parents knew since they moved here, presumably, that the public schools in our district are atrocious, so even for preschool I was in private schools... they always let me have a say in my life/education even then, and would consult me as to where I went. Even though they liked that preschool, I went elsewhere for kindergarten because I didn't like the kindergarten teacher at the first school. Kindergarten was where I met Tina, but otherwise a crappy school...didn't matter much, 'cause it closed by the end of the year. Found somewhere else after that, a really neat school that I don't really regret going to at all. 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade were spent there. The school wasn't making money though, so it changed hands and became a new school. The new management sucked. I went -there- for 5th grade (skipped 4th grade), my parents were upset about the way it was run (& I not too thrilled meself), so we started looking at other private schools. Nothing. Nothing I liked. One school I visited with my grade level one day and the next one up the next. I got along much better with the older kids. Same school said that I'd have to take back that grade I skipped because they didn't think it would be good for me socially to be with older kids. I was not pleased. What made them think they knew more about my social life than I did?! Mom wasn't pleased either. She'd spent that whole year while I was in 5th grade reading up on homeschooling, on the recommendation of her sister. She'd finally got up the courage to try it, so when we couldn't find another private school, she asked me & my brother Michael what we thought of the idea. We said we'd be willing to give it a go for a year. I had been a teacher's pet, straight A student goody-two-shoes in school, so when I was home I had trouble figuring out what to do with myself--you're not going to give me papers to fill in? No busy work? No gold stars? I don't remember exactly what I did that year (I guess I'll remember when I find those old writing bits :) ), but I don't think it was very much. (Enough to keep up with my schooled peers, whatever it was...) Then one day I found mom's copy of "The Teenage Liberation Handbook: how to quit school and get a real life and education", by Grace Llewellyn. I sat down right there in the basement and started reading it. Something clicked. Grace has this exuberence and love of life that shows in everything she does...I finally began to realize the possibilities that were open to me. (Grace & the TLH have had this affect on countless people.. she's really amazing.. :) ) Since then, I've been a dedicated unschooler & unschooling advocate. I'm free!!!!! I have first and final say in what and when and how and where and why I live and learn! Wouldn't trade it for anything. I can share plenty more information on homeschooling/unschooling too--if anyone's interested, e-mail me privately, since I think this is probably more than enough for the list at large. Happy solstice, merry Christmas, &c! Julia / E(lipse ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #345 ***************************