From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #233 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, September 3 1998 Volume 03 : Number 233 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Vinyl [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Vinyl ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: Vinyl [Lazlo Nibble ] Alloy: Goodbye Goodwill [MacSuirtain ] Alloy: re: Goodbye Goodwill [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Vinyl [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics [IT Admin - Govt Office North West ] Alloy: Good riddance Goodwill ! [John Schofield ] Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: Goodbye Goodwill [DThurkirk@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Vinyl [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Goodwill Schmudwill! [Elaine Linstruth ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:29:46 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl Hey Michael, I too still enjoy spinning those bits of old plastic. I have a small collection of L.P.s & Singles from the 80's which I have hung on to over the years for nostalgia's sake! (Some interesting Thomas items too) However, last year, on the death of my Grandad, I came to inherit an old Goldring Lenco Turntable which sounds wonderful. I've started going through my entiire vinyl collection again. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed the sound until then. I am not one of these who believes that vinyl is better than CD or vise versa, just that if you have the right equipment, both can sound different, but great in their own right! Have fun, Trev.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 10:36:09 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl Trevor, It's funny but I could swear that some of my vinyl records sound better than their CD counterparts. Case in point: I have a 12" single of "Whip It" by Devo that is louder than most of my Cds. I don't know if this is because of the recording levels or what but there is certainly a difference. Of course in the years before CDs Japanese pressings were always prized for their superior sound to the American versions. One of the loudest Dolby records I have heard is the 12" single to "The Devil Is An Englishman". A true speaker shaker if you pump it up! Your fellow friend in vinyl, Michael - -----Original Message----- From: TBlagg@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 12:37 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl > >Hey Michael, > >I too still enjoy spinning those bits of old plastic. I have a small >collection of L.P.s & Singles from the 80's which I have hung on to over the >years for nostalgia's sake! (Some interesting Thomas items too) > >However, last year, on the death of my Grandad, I came to inherit an old >Goldring Lenco Turntable which sounds wonderful. I've started going through my >entiire vinyl collection again. I had forgotten how much I enjoyed the sound >until then. I am not one of these who believes that vinyl is better than CD or >vise versa, just that if you have the right equipment, both can sound >different, but great in their own right! > >Have fun, > >Trev.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:22:32 -0600 From: Lazlo Nibble Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl On Wed, Sep 02, 1998 at 10:36:09AM -0700, Michael and Denise Luckey wrote: > It's funny but I could swear that some of my vinyl records sound better than > their CD counterparts. Case in point: I have a 12" single of "Whip It" by > Devo that is louder than most of my Cds. Nothing unusual about this in my experience. CD sound is all in the mastering, and there are lots of poorly-mastered CDs out there -- especially the early ones. Some of the CDs I really wish would come out in nicer-sounding versions include Devo's "FreedomOfChoice", "Age Of Plastic" by The Buggles, and "Friends Of Mr. Cairo" by Jon & Vangelis -- all of which sound much better on vinyl to me. - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ::: Internet Music Wantlists: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo/Wantlists ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 13:03:42 -0400 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Goodbye Goodwill Well, I've done it. I had it out with my wacko new boss this morning, called legal counsel, and have started the wheels of resignation. I found out from Goodwill's counsel (the only person on senior staff I trust) that the new boss had given me assignments for which I have not been trained just to see if I would quit before he would fire me for incompetence. Creeps. Losers. I have to present my resignation letter on Tuesday, right after, ironically, Labor Day. Counsel is now mediating for me, to see what kind of arrangement they can make for me, since they were planning on screwing me over. She says she feels they owe me something. I may have to work there until November 6th, but they'll offer me 3 months of placement counseling (job hunting assistance) starting immediately, and I'll only be expected to clean up all my current projects, rather than take on anything new. I'm terrified. I know that bankruptcy now looms very, very close on the horizon. I'm trying to imagine life without health insurance. However, I felt my blood pressure go down several points immediately, and I'm filled with a sense of, if not well, at least, better being. Now, if any of you know someone who needs a talented writer to spin stories, speeches, proposals (and is available for weddings and children's parties), let me know. Soon to be very, very broke in Bethesda, Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:46:16 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: re: Goodbye Goodwill In a message dated 9/2/98 1:06:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Melissa writes: << I'm terrified. I know that bankruptcy now looms very, very close on the horizon. I'm trying to imagine life without health insurance. >> Melissa, I'm sorry to hear you're going through all of this!! I really believe you will not have any trouble finding something better for yourself, with all of your excellent skills & experience. Bankruptcy does not loom anywhere near as close as you might suspect. (Trust me, Dave and i know what we're talking about here... the classic starving artists, especially when we first got married) I know how scary it is to think of not having insurance, but if you do have to go without it for a brief period of time, you will be in some very good company. As you know, many Americans simply can't afford it - especially young people just out of college. Dave and I had to go without it for about five years, and even having to pay for all of my outrageously priced asthma medication was more affordable than paying for a basic health insurance policy. Frustrating and nightmarish (creditor-dodging & living on one meal a day of that crappy orange macaroni&cheese is NOT something i ever want to relive) but trust me, you can make it through some very hard times without ever having to think of declaring bankruptcy. <> You did yourself a favor when you left that Goodwill job. Now you can consider about a milliion other options. Think of all the things you're good at, the experience you have, the resources you can offer to various sorts of employers. Think about teaching (language, social politics, writing, garment making & design, all of the things you excel at!), translating, etc etc... Melissa, you are one of the most skilled people I know!!!! Consider working a couple of part time jobs rather than one full-time job, if this is what is necessary. Take on temporary jobs & at-home work (like tailoring, alterations etc... being able to sew & design is a big advantage) Take a shot at having some of your writing published (writers are much better paid than artists... believe me :) Short stories, journal exerpts, etc. Just keep going & adding to your experience, and do the things you love. PLEASE stay in touch & let us know how it goes. I'll be thinking of you! Best of luck, I know you can make this transition with flying colors & be all the happier for it, you just need to have faith in yourself & your many abilities. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:58:28 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl In a message dated 9/2/98 1:05:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LUCKEY7@Prodigy.net writes: << One of the loudest Dolby records I have heard is the 12" single to "The Devil Is An Englishman". >> I don't think I've ever heard this! Is this from a film score? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 00:14:24 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics At 16:01 26/08/98 -0700, wrote: > >Greetings all! >I've listed some pictures below from the Plug.in 98 convention earlier this >year. They were taken after Thomas' presentation while he was discussing >Beatnik with several inquisitive folks. Just click on the URL to see the >image. The first one by the way is myself with TMDR so you won't wonder who >that other guy is! LOL - I finally got around to having a peek, and what do I find? So that's you in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby1.jpg is it? You look just like an older version of my nephew who lives in South Africa. And then in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby5.jpg it looks like Thomas is looking at your pen as if to say, 'Yours ain't as big as mine.' And in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby7.jpg, who's the minder? I wouldn't like to tackle HIM in a dark browser. Slarv PS This message powered by 'The Mollusk' by Ween. Now there IS a strange record. My son insisted on lending it to me tonight, and all I can say is that it sounds like something Crackers would do, minus the chest piano. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:25:34 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl Exactly-it's from Gothic. I'll send you a tape of it if you like! M.L. - -----Original Message----- From: RThurF@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 4:03 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl > >In a message dated 9/2/98 1:05:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >LUCKEY7@Prodigy.net writes: > ><< One of the loudest Dolby records I > have heard is the 12" single to "The Devil Is An Englishman". >> > >I don't think I've ever heard this! Is this from a film score? > >Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:30:45 +-1000 From: John Schofield Subject: Alloy: Good riddance Goodwill ! Hang in there Melissa - something always comes along. John (john@police.tas.gov.au) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:30:14 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics Good show! I'm glad that I finally had some comments on those photos-they were screaming for them! Alas, Dolby's bic was bigger than mine. M.L. - -----Original Message----- From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1998 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics > >At 16:01 26/08/98 -0700, wrote: >> >>Greetings all! >>I've listed some pictures below from the Plug.in 98 convention earlier this >>year. They were taken after Thomas' presentation while he was discussing >>Beatnik with several inquisitive folks. Just click on the URL to see the >>image. The first one by the way is myself with TMDR so you won't wonder who >>that other guy is! > >LOL - I finally got around to having a peek, and what do I find? > >So that's you in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby1.jpg is it? You >look just like an older version of my nephew who lives in South Africa. > >And then in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby5.jpg it looks like Thomas >is looking at your pen as if to say, 'Yours ain't as big as mine.' > >And in http://pages.prodigy.net/luckey7/dolby7.jpg, who's the minder? I >wouldn't like to tackle HIM in a dark browser. > >Slarv > >PS This message powered by 'The Mollusk' by Ween. Now there IS a strange >record. My son insisted on lending it to me tonight, and all I can say is >that it sounds like something Crackers would do, minus the chest piano. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:56:59 EDT From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Goodbye Goodwill In a message dated 9/2/98 6:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wearart@nospam.erols.com writes: << I'm terrified. I know that bankruptcy now looms very, very close on the horizon. I'm trying to imagine life without health insurance. However, I felt my blood pressure go down several points immediately, and I'm filled with a sense of, if not well, at least, better being. Now, if any of you know someone who needs a talented writer to spin stories, speeches, proposals (and is available for weddings and children's parties), let me know. Soon to be very, very broke in Bethesda, >> Ahhh the goodwill of goodwill. Nothing quite like it. Now then...relax Melisa. You are afraid but there is nothing to be afraid of. You have one of the best joib markests in ages to look for a job in. You'll have something quickly I'm sure. However....as a person who has been poor before and will be again when Robin and I quit our lives of urban foolishness and head back to the land of hot air balloons and all nigh Greek restaurants, I have to say that poor people survive. Bankruptcy? Ha! I say. No creditor wants you to go bankrupt. If you have a tough time paying call them, tell them you are out of work, and that you can only pay them a tiny bit until you are gainfully employed. THEY WILL LISTEN. Trust me on this. But...if you don't keep communication open with them they'll be a pain in the as. But again, the worse they can do is tap dance on your credit rating (sorry Debtors prison closed for renovation) and even that only lasts for 7 years. And that is but an inconvenience really. Honest. We had the damn car repoed back when and now the cedit is all better and happy as a clam! Next, health insurance. Well, its a recent invention. People got along just fine without it for the most part for centuries. Now, sure we have all kinds of fun doctors to visit, but you can still see them when you really need them honest. The Hippocratic oath says so and there are even laws to back it up. When it comes to paying up see above. Also...most clinic have a certain income level that is state subsidized. The place Robin and I go to, if you qualify, the $70.00 doctor visit becomes a $7.00 doctor's visit. You are in intelligent and experienced woman who has traveled in countries where people literally are "disappeared" off the street! How can you be concerned over having to survive in the united states on minimal cash for a month or two? You can't! You are underestimating yourself. Take care, Dave Thurlow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:54:15 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Vinyl In a message dated 9/2/98 7:24:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LUCKEY7@prodigy.net writes: << Exactly-it's from Gothic. I'll send you a tape of it if you like! M.L. >> This would be a godsend. I can't find a copy of this soundtrack anywhere & I've been desperate to have it. I'll send you a blank tape ASAP!! in debt to you once again, Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:03:23 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dolby Pics In a message dated 9/2/98 7:34:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LUCKEY7@prodigy.net writes: << Good show! I'm glad that I finally had some comments on those photos-they were screaming for them! Alas, Dolby's bic was bigger than mine. >> Michael, you made me choke on my peppermint tea! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 20:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: Goodwill Schmudwill! Melissa, I totally agree with the other posts concerning your situation, and have three tidbits to add also: 1. Congratulations. Might not seem like celebrating now, but you know in your heart it's for the best. You will not need the proverbial 20/20 hindsight to know you'll be better off in the long run. 2. My friend that works for the World Bank/IMF joint library in DC, whom I asked about positions available when you were hinting at hating your job before , said that although they tend to promote from within, someone of your considerable international experience should most definately at least put a resume on file (with either agency). You never know. Of course, the World Bank and the IMF have their own set of politics, so each person would have to judge for themselves if they'd want to be associated. But it is a thought. I don't have any idea how much travel is involved with certain jobs at the agencies, but I do know that they have many many foreign nationals working there.. So you might be able to use int'l experience but never leave the good ol' USA. He also said that he loves the atmosphere -- lots of tolerance, neat cultural traditions, and when he invites "people from work" over, he ends up with an international cocktail party with a cosmopolitan feel. 3. Just this morning, I was watching KTTV (FOX) in Los Angeles. Out here, Hollywood counts as news, so when Dorothy started her 8:30 schtick I kinda tuned out.. until I heard Robert Urich singing the old Love Boat theme song, and then I realized the story was about that Next Wave sequel TV show. Pan back to Dorothy, who tells us that every original member of the old tv show will be guest-appearing on an episode to be aired in October. "Everyone except," she said, "that old stick in the mud former CONGRESSMAN GOPHER." Then the rest of the on-air crew proceeded to sit around ripping on Grandy and calling him a poo-face for a good 3 or 4 minutes. There ya have it! Please let me know if I can help you out somehow. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #233 ***************************