From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #208 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, August 9 1998 Volume 03 : Number 208 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! [John_Hanson_] Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! ["Stephen M. Tils] Re: Alloy: Therapy/Growth [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Ainsi Ce Soir, Je Prends Ma Plume! [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! [RThurF@aol.c] Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! ["Keith Stans] Re: Alloy: Therapy/Growth [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Therapy/Growth --- calling Thomas, the doctor will see you now. ["] Alloy: One more Greeting option. ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: B's adventures [Sean Cier ] Alloy: Songbook ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: Ainsi Ce Soir, Je Prends Ma Plume! ["Michael and Denise Luckey] Alloy: Songbook ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Re: Alloy: B's adventures [CJMark@aol.com] RE: Alloy: B's adventures ["Beth Meyer" ] Alloy: note to Charles Kemp [RThurF@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:36:43 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! - --IMA.Boundary.255455209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Stone me - is their no limits to modern technology ? Expect a long-distance call at 2am one morning from a Yorkshireman with a French accent sounding like he's got sinus problems (which I have, unfortunately). Brill & spiffing good idea, /\/\iles, old chap... QLCSAT, John PS I've missed the airmail deadline... for the msg I'll start work at it this weekend. - --IMA.Boundary.255455209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00526E7C; Fri, 7 Aug 98 16:10:26 - -0500 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA11386 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:09:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0z4tgH-00021q-00; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:04:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id RAA17225; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:03:05 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id RAA17204 for alloy-outgoing; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hil-img-4.compuserve.com (hil-img-4.compuserve.com [149.174.177.134]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id RAA17200 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-4.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.12) id QAA04257; Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 16:59:39 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! To: alloy@smoe.org, Neil Leacy , Ian Gifford Message-ID: <199808071659_MC2-5579-7FF2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smoe.org id RAA17201 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.255455209-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 03:06:25 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! John Hanson gave a cheer: Thanks, John, but it was Keith Stansell's idea. I just did the grunt work. BTW everyone, I've received a very nice .WAV file Greeting from Lem Bingley as an email attachment. Send yours today!!! Awaiting on you all, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 05:52:34 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy/Growth Dear Miles, After another sleepless night listening to the track I unfortunately am unable to shed any light on this! I even spent a portion last night with some friends around an ilegal campfire in some dodgy woodland last night, listening to tapes and drinking the odd beer or three! This is where we find our inspiration usually rears it's head! The only printable alternative we came up with was "summer late night nya nya nya nya nya!" Strange eh? As you say it definitely sounds like he's singing "some are late nya nya nya etc..." However, like you I am not convinced. Why would he sing this? It doesn't mean anything, well not on the surface anyway. Maybe he's going really deep or something? Maybe we should ask him? Sweet Dreams..... Trevor.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 05:52:37 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Ainsi Ce Soir, Je Prends Ma Plume! Dear Lissu, Favourite video? Now there's a thing! Europa And The Pirate Twins is so surreal and well ahead of it's time...Unfortunately I never had the thrill of seeing it on video at the time of release. It was actually in 1994 when I first saw it, after purchasing that old favourite "The Golden Age Of Video" on VHS. "This compelation video collection is actually still available from all good record stores near you!" Actually where do you live? it must be about time for a revolution if you can't pick up a copy of "Aliens". The one I'm struggling to get hold of is "Live Wireless". I have a 1hr version with lots of adverts in it on a chewed up VHS tape. However, I believe there is a full length version out there somewhere! My favourite is "Airhead" It's just so funny, Thomas knows he's on a budget but really goes to town with his Blue Peter style cardboard cutouts......I pitty the camera man on this one! Au revoir for now! Trevor B....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 11:44:02 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! In a message dated 8/8/98 3:08:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com writes: << Thanks, John, but it was Keith Stansell's idea. I just did the grunt work. >> Still, some pretty amazing "grunt work" there, to go with the excellent idea! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 10:06:52 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: New Method to Record Your Bday Tribute Greeting! Stephen, Thanks for grunting per my suggestion. I just now realized that I'll have to crank out some more CD's due to this :) The more the merrier! - -Keith >In a message dated 8/8/98 3:08:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com writes: > ><< Thanks, John, but it was Keith Stansell's idea. I just did the grunt work. > >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:24:04 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Therapy/Growth In a message dated 8/8/98 5:54:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TBlagg@aol.com writes: << As you say it definitely sounds like he's singing "some are late nya nya nya etc..." However, like you I am not convinced. Why would he sing this? >> I'm of no help, having just heard the song yesterday for the first time ever, and loving it passionately!! I'll have to hear it again in order to know which part you are discussing. It's never bothered me, though, not being able to pick out all of a song's lyrics. Could he have deliberately been muttering, just to drive lyric-seekers mad? I wanted to mention to you Trevor that I really loved your story of the first time you ever heard/purchased music by Thomas Dolby! Thanks for posting it. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:20:21 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Therapy/Growth --- calling Thomas, the doctor will see you now. Regarding the lyrics to Therapy/Growth, Trevor writes: > Maybe we should ask him? We just did. Thomas is a member, albeit a distant one, of Alloy. Generally though, he gets out of our mix . . . Oh come on Thomas! Help us out here. P-P-P-P-Pleeeease? Anyroadup, Dr. /\/\. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:20:20 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: One more Greeting option. A short Alloy moment ago Trevor wrote a birthday Greeting script to the List, asking that we include it in the Tribute package somehow. Here is my response. Ok, if you cannot, or would rather not turn in a recorded message, then write a short script for TMDR's bday and send it to me. I will collect these and read them, ala Garrison Keillor, on tape. Whatcha think? /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:30:30 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings: Heads Up! Dear Keith, Thanks for the details of this webb site. This was just amazing! I think the tracks that have been produced by you guys are incredible. I've never heard a cover of any of Thomas' work before. I'm just sitting here in disbelief. One thing that strikes me is all the effort that must surely have gone into this project. Hats off to you all. Wow! How did you do this, was it by ear or from music provided by the great man himself? In pro or home studios? Which format did you all master to? Also would it be possible to purchase a copy as Real Audio Player version 5 isn't exactly state of the art! Has this been presented to him yet? Or is this what you are talking about when you are requesting songs? Are the Birthday Greetings on this site last years or are they waiting to be sent? God, so many questions....sorry...sorry....sorry! There's not enough time right now for me to do a cover for this year's collection but I'd love to get involved in the future. My own set up seems in order now after having a few problems with my soundcard. I use VST 3.55 with an Event Gina soundcard....My main instrument is lead guitar...although I've alot to learn! Again well done to you all! It was also great from your Birthday Greetings to be able to put a voice to to those Emails..... Regards, Trevor......... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 13:30:46 -0700 From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse ) Subject: Alloy: B's adventures Hi everyone, I just returned from a lot of time away--- two weeks in L.A. and then two in Dublin! They were both research-related (I *love* my job :)) but I got to do a bit of sightseeing in Dublin. And while there, Rob and I heard that we should go to CD stores to try to find U2 rareties or otherwise imports, because it's so much cheaper there. Anyway, while in the Virgin Megastore there (ugh, I hate big chains), I spotted a copy of The Golden Age of Video!!! I was so excited!! I did ask if they had any others but they didn't at all, but I did think of everyone here without their own :) In fact, I was *SO* excited that I bought it immediately and it was only three days later in another store that I thought, "Gee, I hope it's VHS and not that weird British format." Luck was on my side though, as it seems all the video there is VHS format.... Cheers, *B* Barbara Cohen Cosmochemical Cocktail Mixer, PhD to be ****************************************** 668: The Neighbor of the Beast ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings Hey Trevor, allow me to add my hearty welcome to the rest of the Alloy chorus. The birthday greetings/covers that you heard online were last year's. They were given to TMDR by his birthday (mid October 1997). The deadlines you are hearing about right now are related to the Birthday Project, Take II (doing the same thing this year). If you don't have time to cover a song, contribute a "birthday greeting" instead. Just a quick .wav recording of your voice saying whatever, will do. (Only contributors can get a copy of the finished product!) (Contributors means greetings folks as well as musical contributors.) The deadline for the greeting is one week from today (Saturday 8/15). I'm working on mine but having some trouble tweaking it. But I'll get it to ya, /\/\iles of S/\/\iles, I promise. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:48:57 EDT From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings Thanks Elaine, I'll work something out. Should be with you soon Miles. Do you want the wav file sent to your "direct" Email address? Trevor B....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:32:25 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings Hi Trevor, Keith here, Your .wav file should go to Stephen /\/\iles Tilson at this address: Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com He's the pivot man for this project. - -----Original Message----- From: TBlagg@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Saturday, August 08, 1998 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Bday Greetings > >Thanks Elaine, > >I'll work something out. > >Should be with you soon Miles. > >Do you want the wav file sent to your "direct" Email address? > >Trevor B....... > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Aug 1998 19:04:33 -0400 From: Sean Cier Subject: Re: Alloy: B's adventures Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse wrote: > > In fact, I was > *SO* excited that I bought it immediately and it was only three > days later in another store that I thought, "Gee, I hope it's VHS > and not that weird British format." Luck was on my side though, > as it seems all the video there is VHS format.... Yeah, but was it *NTSC* VHS or PAL VHS? I thought Ireland used PAL, but if you've already tried (and it works), I guess it's NTSC... the difference is in the encoding, BTW, not the physical medium (at least, I don't *think* there are any differences in terms of the tape itself, though I don't have any European tapes myself); that is, even the television broadcasts in much of Europe are in PAL rather than America's NTSC standard (the differences are relatively minor, but they're still incompatible). - -spc - -- /- Sean Cier -\ ( Dreams of falling, dreams of flying; ) ( a man who never dreams goes slowly mad ) \- http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~scier -/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:55:38 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Songbook I noticed the conversation about Ebay auctions awhile back and wanted to pass on some new info. The 1983 songbook of Dolby's is currently online for $5. Knowing all the musicians out there I figured someone might want to snap this up! Just go to www.ebay.com and type in Dolby after registering. M.L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:50:31 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Ainsi Ce Soir, Je Prends Ma Plume! Welcome aboard Trevor! I'm still new to Alloy myself so I'll continue to learn all things Dolby along with you! Michael Luckey - -----Original Message----- From: TBlagg@aol.com To: Alloy@smoe.org Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 3:35 AM Subject: Alloy: Ainsi Ce Soir, Je Prends Ma Plume! > >Dear all, (including Josephine) > >Thank you for those heart felt welcomes! > >Nobody else but YOU, could possibly understand my anxieties, pain and trauma >at not being able to discuss the latest on Uncle Thomas! Having someone there >to talk to when, in the middle of the night one awakens in order to creep down >the stairs to mince through one's rare record collection to locate a lyric >from a verse in Therapy/growth is truly medicinal. I cannot sleep when >something as major as this is playing on my mind's eye! > >A bit of background.... > >I first spotted Thomas on "Top Of The Pops" (The leading English music >programme of it's day) broadcast by the BBC in 1982 when I was only 12yrs old. >I was completely overwhelmed by this new style of what could only be described >then as "electro pop". Yes, you've guessed it, he was performing that timeless >classic 'WINDPOWER'. Within a few moments my chums and I had gathered our >pennies together and taken a trip to the local branch of Woolworths and >purchased the single between the 3 of us! We took it in turns to have the copy >until it eventually shrivelled through over usage. > >My favourite Album though has and probably always will be "Aliens" This work >of art will always be special to me! O.K. alright, yes I admit it, this is >whereI became a REAL man under the moonlight to 'Budapest By Blimp'. > >Favourite song? Well, I would have to go for two here;"I Love You Goodbye" & >"The Flat Earth". Both have been expertly produced with Thomas showing off all >his skills as a musician by playing and arranging so many instruments >(including those violin things) and juxtaposing them in his unique sublime >style! > >Talking of violins, did you spot thim on the cover of the original release of >Hyperactive on his head playing one of those stringy things? I wonder if he >was ACTUALLY playing it? > >Screen Kisses, > >Trevor ***** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:57:39 -0700 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Alloy: Songbook This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BDC306.CBBFB2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wasn't sure if this went through so here it is again! M.L. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BDC306.CBBFB2C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Songbook Content-Disposition: attachment Reply-To: "Michael and Denise Luckey" From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" To: "alloy" Subject: Songbook Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:55:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3115.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I noticed the conversation about Ebay auctions awhile back and wanted to pass on some new info. The 1983 songbook of Dolby's is currently online for $5. Knowing all the musicians out there I figured someone might want to snap this up! Just go to www.ebay.com and type in Dolby after registering. M.L. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BDC306.CBBFB2C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:49:05 EDT From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: B's adventures Dear Barbara.. Sean.. et al. Sean makes a good point. Most of Europe utilizes the PAL video system except France.. which uses SECAM. The US uses NTSC (Which most technicians fondly refer to as "Never Twice Same Color") The NTSC system here has about 100 fewer lines of resolution than PAL or SECAM... which is why when an American goes to Europe.. the TVs look so incredibly focused.. and why when a European comes here to the states, the TVs look so soft. The big question that Sean posed is important. Is the video NTSC VHS or PAL VHS. If it is PAL.. you will not be able to watch it with your US NTSC vcr or your NTSC tv. Multisystem TVs and VCRs are available, but they cost at least double for the system. If you are lucky, the video is NTSC VHS and your system will work.. (You are in the US aren't you?) Sorry to be long winded.. but its so rare that I actually know something worth mentioning.. I have to make the most of it. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:48:39 -0400 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: B's adventures Hi, folks; Just had to de-cloak very quickly to address Barbara's potential problem of having picked up a PAL tape in Europe. Having exchanged several home videotapes with friends in Europe, I can assure you that all is not lost, even if the tape is PAL. Any video production/duplicating facility worth its salt can duplicate a PAL tape into NTSC format and vice versa. Around Atlanta, the fee was usually no more than $15 or so. A small price to pay for a watchable copy of GAOV (an item for which I am still pining)... Cheers, Beth Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:22:19 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: note to Charles Kemp Just to keep you up to date Charles, I've been working on your horoscope as promised! I know all of your planets and now I just have to compile them all together so that you can read what each of them means. Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #208 ***************************