From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #199 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, July 30 1998 Volume 03 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: B-Day Tribute rules of the road . . . ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 01:43:36 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: B-Day Tribute rules of the road . . . Greetings Chilluns, Crackers delineated the self-imposed rules of the B-Day project, but I believe there is a slight misunderstanding. Crackers wrote: > 1) Distribution of the finished work is limited to Alloy members. It is my understanding, from last year's project, that distribution is limited to Contributors Only. That is why it is important for those of you who wish a copy of this work to At Least contribute a spoken greeting. So figure out how to use those fancy-dancy multi-media computers you likely have, and get those greetings on their way! By the way, last year only nine people sent greetings, and three of those were musical contributors. Come On! We can do better than that! I am sorry to report that Jose Gomez has dropped out of the project this year, and so Puppet Theater has become available. We'll miss you, Jose. The rest of you . . . Get Cracking, Stephen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:47:19 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[4]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! - --IMA.Boundary.832996109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Probably his publishing company, or the record company. How many artistes genuinely "own" their own material these days anyway ? Personally I think that a tribute tape is an excellent idea, if I were an artist and some fans did that for me then I would be dead chuffed. I wish that I could contribute, but I can't due to lack of ability. If I attempted to cover one of TMDR's masterpieces then it would be a crime against music, if not humanity in general. Dommage... John ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Author: "Keith Stansell" at Internet Date: 28/07/1998 19:10 We did this last year and presented a copy to Thomas Dolby. He was pleased. So....who exactly would be the one to complain? - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 2:18 PM Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > I take it that copyright laws have no bearing here... > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! >Author: "Keith Stansell" at Internet >Date: 27/07/1998 19:57 > > > >OK, OK here's the concept: > >Similar to last years project, the cover will at first look like a TMDR >cover. In this instance - The Flat Earth. Also similar to last years >project, the picture will be altered slightly to include a birthday cake. > >The cake on this years cover would replace the pan that TMDR is holding in >the photo. The cake could be slightly flat if we use that as the title. If >you look at the expression on TMDR's face in the photo, he looks a bit upset >or suprised. > >That's basically it. I thought it would be kind of neat to continue a theme >for the cover art from last year. > >I'll make up an example and present it as soon as I get the scanned image >from Dr. Beth. > >-Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elaine Linstruth >To: alloy@smoe.org >Date: Monday, July 27, 1998 11:22 AM >Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > > >> >> >>Not to try and be bossy or anything, but maybe if we all knew the concept >>or idea or artwork planned, or whatever it is, then a consensus could be >>reached based on that. (Instead of based on the three words and the >>"It'll be great guys, I've seen it.") Not that we don't trust you who are >>in-the-know. It's just, why not let us all in on the idea? >> >>-- >>Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) >> >>On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Keith Stansell wrote: >>> Just use the term "tribute" and you'll be fine. >>> >>> JAMac Wrote: >>> >I noticed that Keiths idea of "The Flat Cake" doesn't seem to be well >>> >received, and even though I try to avoid the 'birthday' involvement for >>> >personal reasons, I would have to say, (from a third-party perspective) >>> >"The Flat Cake" concept of Keiths is wonderful. And it's not a repeat >of >>> >last years idea. Rather, a continuation of the story. >> >> > - --IMA.Boundary.832996109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00501979; Tue, 28 Jul 98 20:13:45 - -0500 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA13738 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:13:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0z1Knv-00011e-00; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:13:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id VAA03410; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:13:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id VAA03395 for alloy-outgoing; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [206.173.118.79]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id VAA03388 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [206.173.118.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.8/(98/04/23 5.10)) id VAA03636; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from KeithStansell (ts008d30.den-co.concentric.net [207.155.169.138]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.8.8) id VAA21529; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001a01bdba8d$bd929fe0$8aa99bcf@KeithStansell> From: "Keith Stansell" To: Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:10:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.832996109-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:35:32 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Dear John wrote: > ...if I were an artist and some fans did that for me then I would > be dead chuffed. I wish that I could contribute, but I can't due > to lack of ability. What, you can operate a computer, but you can't record a happy birthday message and send it to me? Nonsense. Of course you can contribute! And I am sure Thomas would love to hear from you. Make it so, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:59:33 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! - --IMA.Boundary.294307109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I haven't got a snazzy computer which can record sound... in fact I'm still on Win 3,1 - it's a company laptop, not mine !!! John ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Author: "Stephen M. Tilson" at Internet Date: 29/07/1998 04:35 Dear John wrote: > ...if I were an artist and some fans did that for me then I would > be dead chuffed. I wish that I could contribute, but I can't due > to lack of ability. What, you can operate a computer, but you can't record a happy birthday message and send it to me? Nonsense. Of course you can contribute! And I am sure Thomas would love to hear from you. Make it so, /\/\iles - --IMA.Boundary.294307109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com (159.198.1.38) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00502870; Wed, 29 Jul 98 03:37:57 - -0500 Received: from siren.shore.net (siren.shore.net [207.244.124.5]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA19380 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:37:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by siren.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0z1Rja-000658-00; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:37:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id EAA14741; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:37:13 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id EAA14730 for alloy-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:36:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dub-img-9.compuserve.com (dub-img-9.compuserve.com [149.174.206.139]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id EAA14726 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:36:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dub-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.12) id EAA10305 for alloy@smoe.org; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 04:35:32 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! To: alloy@smoe.org Message-ID: <199807290435_MC2-5481-22A9@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smoe.org id EAA14727 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.294307109-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 98 22:56:17 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: [off topic] A favour: need intel! Hi y'all, Apologies for being horrendously off-topic here, this is an appeal to our US folk. An acquiantance of mine (long story I won't bore you with) is moving to Reno, Nevada. Anyone here know anything about that city? ie. good/bad/indifferent places I can recommend to them, etc.? Please respond to me privately. thanks in advance, apologies for wasting bandwidth! Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 12:40:45 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! John counters: > I haven't got a snazzy computer which can record sound... in fact > I'm still on Win 3,1 - it's a company laptop, not mine !!! WIN 3.1 has a sound recorder built in (see Accessories Group). If your laptop has a microphone input, and most do, then your battle is 3/4's won! Alternatively, may I suggest you visit your local musician's supply store and perhaps if you tell them what it is you are about (and don't mention soccer, sorry, footie) they would probably be tickled to help you record your message which probably wouldn't exceed 15 or 30 seconds in any event. Record it direct to cassette and post it here. Hint: Buy the cassette from the folks who help you record your message. Avoid bringing your own. And to everyone: Come On! It's Thomas' 40th birthday --- let's show him we still care! Love and luck, Spirit of /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Alloy: BDay project: some ideas to help Hey, John, this was my exact problem also. I play no instruments well enough and am too embarrassed to sing a cappella. So, my then-6-month old and I recorded a greeting that said something like, hi, happy birthday, thanks for all our favorite music. That's all ya gotta do! I'd like to be contributing some cool cover tune like the others (and they were all *very* cool), but since I can't do that, I did the next best thing. (I plan to again this year also.) Everyone that's even remotely interested should do the same: it is easy to do, and is a quick as well as modest way to be part of the project. Not to mention that we can assume our Fearless Leader enjoys being wished a bon anniversaire. Everyone, give it some thought. Nothing's saying we can't be somewhat creative with the greetings, too. Make use of some goofy sound effect, have your kids yell something (was that you last year Crackers?), clink a champagne glass and say you're drinking in his honor, warble a song off-key and say that's why you didn't do a cover tune. There's four ideas right there. :-) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) > Personally I think that a tribute tape is an excellent idea, if I were > an artist and some fans did that for me then I would be dead chuffed. > I wish that I could contribute, but I can't due to lack of ability. If > I attempted to cover one of TMDR's masterpieces then it would be a > crime against music, if not humanity in general. > > Dommage... > > John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:49:15 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! In a message dated 7/28/98 10:51:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, crackers@hwcn.org writes: << Incidently, I'm currious how submissions are comming along on the Project B-Day companion book. >> Well, there haven't been any apart from yours, crackers! There are only a few other people who are discussing doing something for the book. Regardless, to anyone who is interested, you must have your short story, poem, photographic work or other 2-D artwork mailed to me so that I receive it by September First, which is only one month away. I'll bind whatever I've received by that date, & send it off in a timely fashion. If I get anything after that date I'll save it for next year. Please e-mail me if you need my address. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:21:33 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! Hey /\/\iles! Do you have a phone with an answering machine? Perhaps people could leave a message on the machine at a time that you are not normally around. That way there would be NO EXCUSES for anyone on this list not to leave a birthday message. Just a thought. - -Keith - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 5:52 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! > I haven't got a snazzy computer which can record sound... in fact I'm > still on Win 3,1 - it's a company laptop, not mine !!! > > John > > >______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ >Subject: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! >Author: "Stephen M. Tilson" at Internet >Date: 29/07/1998 04:35 > > > >Dear John wrote: > > > ...if I were an artist and some fans did that for me then I would > > be dead chuffed. I wish that I could contribute, but I can't due > > to lack of ability. > >What, you can operate a computer, but you can't record a happy birthday >message and send it to me? Nonsense. Of course you can contribute! And I >am sure Thomas would love to hear from you. > >Make it so, >/\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! In article <00502973.1208@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com>, you wrote: > I haven't got a snazzy computer which can record sound... in fact I'm > still on Win 3,1 - it's a company laptop, not mine !!! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ You mean you don't have an old fashioned device known as a "Tape Recorder"? Just record it on a cheap old tape recorder and send it in on a cassette. That's what most of us are doing. Incidently... 1) Can you please edit your replies so only the relivant part of the message you're responding to is displayed? 2) What does "chuffed" mean? Is it anything like what happens to my thighs on a hot, humid day? CRACKERS (Thank Bira for Corn Starch from hell!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: [off topic] A favour: need intel! In article <199807291254.WAA29712@smople.thehub.com.au>, you wrote: >An acquiantance of mine (long story I won't bore you with) is moving to >Reno, Nevada. Anyone here know anything about that city? ie. >good/bad/indifferent places I can recommend to them, etc.? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Yeah, tell him whatever you do, don't cross Joey "The Shark" Capelli. CRACKERS (Fun for the whole mob from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Re[4]: Alloy: Tribute Project --- time is growing short! In article <00502773.1208@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com>, you wrote: > Probably his publishing company, or the record company. How many > artistes genuinely "own" their own material these days anyway ? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Yepper, Thomas owns all his songs. The publishers can only get upset if you're distributing actual copies of the recordings they distribute. But the songs themselves belong to Thomas. And I'll be recording my cover this weekend! Woohoo! CRACKERS (Ready to roll from hell!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:14:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: B-Day Tribute rules of the road . . . In article <199807290143_MC2-5481-B86E@compuserve.com>, you wrote: >Greetings Chilluns, > >Crackers delineated the self-imposed rules of the B-Day project, but I >believe there is a slight misunderstanding. Crackers wrote: > > > 1) Distribution of the finished work is limited to Alloy members. > >It is my understanding, from last year's project, that distribution is >limited to Contributors Only. That is why it is important for those of you >who wish a copy of this work to At Least contribute a spoken greeting. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Yeah I guess I should have clarified that more. Hard distribution is liminted to contributors only. But last year we also had "soft" distribution via low resolution samples on a secret webpage. CRACKERS (I forget the URL from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 23:14:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: Whew! What a buggy ride! Well just to keep everyone up on all the excitement in my life recently... 1) Just got over a nasty bug (this after just getting over a nasty spider bite). It had my heart doing all sorts of funny things. But everything is fine now. 2) I'm going to be going to Austria soon! My wife is going on business so the kids and I will be going too for a vacation. It pays to marry a professional woman (especially if you're a musician!). Going to Vienna and Salzburg. 3) Beena and I arn't married. While she was getting our passports in order she wanted to get a copy of our marrage certificate. It turns out the church we got married at never sent in the registration so for 10 years we've been living in sin and our kids are bastards! Actually we lived "in sin" for two years before we got married so that's 12 years of sin altogether. I called my mom (who goes to the church we were married at) and she's talked to the preacher and it'll all be taken care of. But I was teasing Beena saying "Hey I guess this means I can't be guilty of adultry now.". To which she said, "Yeah, but just remember I make all the money." It's fun to think that despite his wealth and power, Bill Clinton would give anything to be me right now! 4) Decided to buy a camcorder before I head off to europe. I've got dozens of ancient video camers here, but none of any practical use. So I went out looking for an inexpensive, under $500 model. I don't care about bells and whistles. Just as long as what comes in the lens gets put on the tape with decent quality that's all I care about. So I'm checking everywhere and I end up at Walmart. I see an inexpensive camera and ask the clerk if I can see it. She opens up the counter and gives it to me sans battery. I ask her if she has the battery and she says, "No, we don't keep a charged battery on hand." Fair enough, so I say, "Well then just hand me the adaptor and I'll plug it in." "No I'm sorry but you can't try the camera. It's against store policy." Wha!?!! "Against store policy? You mean you actually expect me to come in here and buy a camera without having any idea what it's picture quality or features are like." "It's against policy to let you try the camera." Thinking that perhaps she was either too lazy to reach in the box and hand me the adaptor or mearly confused I asked for the manager who repeated that it is against the store's policy to let people try out the merchandise. "This is rediculous. How do you expect someone to make a major purchase like this totally blind. You have to know about the features of the camera and the quality of it's video before you buy. I mean you wouldn't buy a car without taking it for a test drive." "Oh so if you were going to buy a microwave would you bring a chicken to the store and have them cook it for you?" he countered. "No but I'd try out the microwave to see how easy it was to program and what sort of features it has. I wouldn't just walk in, point, and say 'give me that one'." "You could always go to another store and try it out there." he suggested. "If I try it out at another store I'm going to buy it at that store. So why won't you let me try out the camera here?" I asked. "Well it makes it too easy to steal the camera if we let you try it out." he responded. "What!?" I exclaimed, "That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. This lady just took the camera out of the cabinet and handed it to me when I asked to see it. How does plugging it into the wall or putting a battery in the camera make it easier to steal? You haven't given me one good reason yet as to why I can't try out the camera before I buy it." "We don't have to give you a good reason. It's our policy. But we can show you all the cameras and manuals if you want." "Okay Sparky, I've got a few hours to kill. Bring 'em all out and I'll look at them all." So at this point he told the first girl who was serving me to take care of showing me the cameras. But another salesman who was watching the whole thing stepped in and said he'd take care of it. As soon as the manager was out of sight he apaulogized for the trouble, told me the policy was stupid and was really just there out of laziness, and he let me try out the cameras. It was because of him and him alone that I ended up buying a camera there (well that and it was really, really inexpensive). Now I plan to write a letter to the Walmart head office telling them of my wee adventure and that if it wasn't for that one salesrep they would have lost a sale. But my friends have all warned me that I should leave his name out of it or else he might get fired for being helpful to the customers. 5) Going to be recording with "I Love My Shih-Tsu" when I get back. Woohoo. I'm soooooo happy about being in this band. It's kind of like they're the A-Crowd at school and I'm the nerdy guy who finally gets to run with the cool kids. (Which is odd because I never had a desire to run with the A-Crowd when I was in Highschool... mostly because all the fun people were in the B and C Crowds). I used to be so jelouse of my friend Dave when he played with them and now he lives in PEI and envies me. And that in a nutshell has been everything exciting in my life as of recent. CRACKERS (Adventures in geek-land from hell!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #199 ***************************