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alloy-digest          Tuesday, July 21 1998          Volume 03 : Number 190



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Alloy: ch-ch-ch-changes  [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.]
  Re: Alloy: Beth catches up a bit                           [RThurF@aol.com]
  Re: Re: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy!  [Erik Habbinga <habbi]

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:11:54 -0500
From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com
Subject: Alloy: ch-ch-ch-changes

     
     Salut tout le monde..
     
     Joyeux anniversaire to anyone having a birthday recently.
     
     To Paul - thanks for your work on the list & good luck in your new 
     ventures.
     
     To Robin - nice to hear that it's you taking on the list & I wish you 
     all the best.
     
     Been lurking a bit lately, work is quite demanding, and outside of 
     work, the unofficial Red Star 93 website is taking shape - it's not as 
     easy as I expected ! The technical bit isn't too difficult, c'est à 
     dire learning HTML, the hardest parts are the artistic side, ie what 
     the damn thing will look like, and actually putting something of 
     interest on it ! There's only the English bit done at the moment, the 
     French version will follow after.
     
     MTCBWY & your compression testers
     
     John
     
     PS only 19 days to the start of the new season
     
     PPS Je rêvais d'un autre monde, (une terre plate, peut-être ? - guess 
     who's listening to Téléphone / Jean-Louis Aubert at the moment ?)

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:31:23 EDT
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Beth catches up a bit

In a message dated 7/19/98 11:32:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bethmeyer@mindspring.com writes:

<< Actually, Alloy really does seem to be fairly unique among Internet
 communities.  I was recently reading Stephen Carter's recent book on
 "Civility," and at one point, he argues that Internet communities tend to be
 uncivil places by nature.  Apparently, there is a tendency for people to
 make up fictional personae for themselves just for the fun of it (robbing
 others of any ability to count on anything genuine) and to resort quickly to
 very hurtful and damaging words, also just for the fun of it.  I was struck
 by how different Alloy is from that description.  I feel privileged to be
 surrounded by genuine people who genuinely care about each other.
  >>

Very beautifully said... I couldn't agree more :) I must say that since the
very start of my subscription to Alloy, I have felt so proud to associate with
so many astonishingly bright, honest, funny, interesting & kind individuals.
I'm honored to have been chosen to pick up where Paul has unfortunately been
compelled to leave off. He's done such a beautiful job maintaining the list...
he along with every one of Alloy's brilliant contributors have helped to make
this list a real community. 

From what I've seen of some other lists, Mr Carter may sadly be correct. It's
actually frightening for me to think that given the option of anonymity, so
many people would choose to invent facades in order to abuse others without
threat of retribution. 

I have found other lists (the ferret veterinary newsgroup, for one) where some
very good-hearted people come to exchange ideas... but none has ever been as
unique, or made me feel more at home, than Alloy. 

Beth, I'm glad you & Mark are getting settled. Is it beautiful out there?
Congratulations on buying a house!! 

Robin T
who would happily share that piece of stale birthday cake with you...

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Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:41:59 -0600
From: Erik Habbinga <habbinga@verinet.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy!

> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 21:01:11 -0600
> From: "Keith Stansell" <Stansell@usa.net>
> Subject: Re: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy!
> 
> ..and the interview went well I think, Erin is submitting me for a position
> with USWest.  If that happens, I guess USWest will be the official employer
> of the Colorado Alloy Club.  (Erik, who do you work for, and are you
> interested in working for US WEST?  I could refer you to a recruiter.....)
> 

I work for Hewlett Packard up in Loveland.  I really like my job, so I
don't think I'll be heading down to USWest anytime soon.  Besides, I
bought a house here so I could ride my bike to work!  USWest would be a 
mighty long haul from Loveland...

Erik

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