From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #166 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, June 24 1998 Volume 03 : Number 166 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Procul Harum [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Re: Alloy:Lyrics [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Re[2]: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.] Alloy: Eraserhead [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] RE: Alloy: Eraserhead ["Beth Meyer" ] RE: Alloy: Eraserhead ["Dan Swan" ] Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Eraserhead [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Cy's salad fest [bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apoca] Re: Alloy: Eraserhead ["Michael and Denise Luckey" ] Alloy: I have a dream... [John Schofield ] Re: Alloy: I have a dream... [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Thanks, Paul!! [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy:Lyrics [IT Admin - Govt Office North West > Well I guess you can't say she isn't a musician if you listen to her sing Hawaii off Zal, but she certainly hasn't any formal harmony. The strange thing is that although I trust her artistic judgement completely (it would drive me insane otherwise!) I still can't let her take part or have any input until it's finished, which she really hates. It's just my solo mentality - I tend to have the vision of the entire song, and any additional input seems extraneous, which is why I'm so crap at working with bands. On the subject of American Psycho - I definitely recommend that you read it - - just not after dinner. I've heard frightening rumours that they're trying to film it with that nasty little Di Caprio person, which is a crazy idea. The Naked Lunch was supposed to be "the great unfilmable" but it's simple compared to American Psycho. Not only is the violence and sickness too unspeakable for words, but the rest of the book is so deliberately filled with minute and pointless details to reflect both the state of mind of Patrick Bateman and the state of the world in which he lives, that it would be a very boring film indeed. Not only unfilmable, but certainly unwatchable. And no - it doesn't reflect too well on the yankee culture!! ha ha............ the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:32:57 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy:Lyrics <> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Tooo scary!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:38:07 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... In a message dated 6/23/98 4:20:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk writes: << On the subject of American Psycho - I definitely recommend that you read it - just not after dinner. I've heard frightening rumours that they're trying to film it with that nasty little Di Caprio person, which is a crazy idea. The Naked Lunch was supposed to be "the great unfilmable" but it's simple compared to American Psycho. Not only is the violence and sickness too unspeakable for words, but the rest of the book is so deliberately filled with minute and pointless details to reflect both the state of mind of Patrick Bateman and the state of the world in which he lives, that it would be a very boring film indeed. Not only unfilmable, but certainly unwatchable. >> The movie companies are all trying to one-up each other with sickness & violence, ever since all those serial killer flicks started coming out of Hollywood (such as the film "Seven", and endless others) Everyone's looking for the next most evil, violent, graphic, spirit-annihilating script to film these days. I'm no fan of DiCaprio but he wouldn't be bad as a psychopath... he has those beady little eyes & a great talent for the vacuous stare. I'm really not trying to make fun of him, it's just true! Anyway, I don't like violence in films, especially when it's viciously directed at innocent people. I can handle cop&robber type shootouts etc. or silly violence (ie Return of the Living Dead) but when it's meant to psychologically scar the audience for life & send us all to therapy, like some of these films which are being funded lately, then forget it. Too intense! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:04:54 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... << I don't like violence in films, especially when it's viciously directed at innocent people. I can handle cop&robber type shootouts etc. or silly violence (ie Return of the Living Dead) but when it's meant to psychologically scar the audience for life & send us all to therapy, like some of these films which are being funded lately, then forget it.>> It sure is with this one. Obviously Brett Easton Ellis was trying to do something a bit more than that with the book. What he means is not exactly clear and is certainly open to all manner of interpretation. The phrase "Death to all Yuppies" occurs with some regularity, and indeed it is at them that the author's obvious hatred is directed. Also the city of New York comes under fire. As well as the fact that it will make normal sane people like we Alloyites feel deeply unwell, a film version could quite easily trigger off copycat killings etc. Normally I'm very sceptical about such effects, but there's little doubt that Natural Born Killers, great film though it was, resonated strongly with certain sections of American society and, if newspapers are to be believed (?) did indeed cause some. Am.Psycho could be the same, if not more so, because it will be, if at all faithful to the book, even more intense and disturbing, and with all the weirdos living in New York, not to mention other big cities, there should be plenty of nutters already on the edge and looking for a reason to jump. Another encouragement for them is that Patrick Bateman is outwardly just an ordinary guy (like them) who in his spare time indulges in a little - well, find out for yourselves....... <> Don't go and see this then, as they don't get much more innocent! yours, hoping they don't make it, the artless money-grabbing morons. the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:12:08 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... - --IMA.Boundary.763406898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part yours, hoping they don't make it, the artless money-grabbing morons. the_copse Hear hear ! - --IMA.Boundary.763406898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com (159.198.180.56) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0048B623; Tue, 23 Jun 98 06:56:15 - -0500 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id GAA02150 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:55:57 - -0500 (CDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0yoRgP-0006Kn-00; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:56:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id HAA24109; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:56:07 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id HAA24084 for alloy-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from splmta.jbaintl.com (studley.jba.co.uk [193.131.80.68]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with SMTP id HAA24080 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Received: by splmta.jbaintl.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8025662C.00415144 ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:53:26 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: JBA To: alloy@smoe.org Message-ID: <0025662C.00412D95.00@splmta.jbaintl.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 12:04:54 +0000 Subject: Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.763406898-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:45:09 -0500 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Eraserhead Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome films ever made ? John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:20:49 -0400 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: Eraserhead Hi, folks; >Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome films ever made ? Actually, it gave me a migraine and I had to leave the theater halfway through the film. So I can't really say. I might have missed the really gruesome bits. I can say that I left the theater, not only in pain, but also very confused... Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 9:25:20 MDT From: "Dan Swan" Subject: RE: Alloy: Eraserhead Beth Meyer said: - -> - -> - -> - -> - ->Hi, folks; - -> - ->>Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome - -> films ever made ? - -> - ->Actually, it gave me a migraine and I had to leave the theater halfway - ->through the film. So I can't really say. I might have missed the really - ->gruesome bits. I can say that I left the theater, not only in pain, but - ->also very confused... As per my SOP of taking chicks on creepy dates. I took a chick to that movie shortly after meeting her. She loved it. Went out with her for a year. ............................................................................. "And if you want to Swan, one to one... kid, we don't need a pond." -Prefab Sprout Having graduated, I will soon be losing my U of C account. If your E-mail to me should bounce, please re-direct it to: swan_daniel@hotmail.com ............................................................................. ICQ#: 14324013 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:55:38 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Precious luvvies.......... In a message dated 6/23/98 7:56:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk writes: << <> Don't go and see this then, as they don't get much more innocent! >> :) eww... thanks for the warning... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:03:36 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Eraserhead In a message dated 6/23/98 8:56:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: << Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome films ever made ? >> Yes, I like it. I've seen it a few times & didn't find it gruesome. What did you think was so? Nightmarish, definitely, especially the sound of the film. That continuous industrial rumble in the background which is now a trademark of David Lynch's films in general.. and the spoken dialogue in 'Eraserhead' sounding like it's coming out from under water. It gives even more of a hallucinatory quality to the film. David Lynch is very good at setting a mood of alienation. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:26:53 -0700 From: bcohen@LPL.Arizona.EDU (Barbara A Cohen via apocalypse ) Subject: Alloy: Cy's salad fest Hoo hoo ha ha ha. That would be funny. I'm on the Fixx list as well so I will ask over there. *B* Barbara Cohen Cosmochemical Cocktail Mixer, PhD to be ****************************************** In spite of the cost of living it's still popular. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 19:44:07 -0000 From: "Michael and Denise Luckey" Subject: Re: Alloy: Eraserhead I think the description on the video box describes this movie well-"disturbing". M.L. - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 1:00 PM Subject: Alloy: Eraserhead > > > Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome > films ever made ? > > John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:53:09 +-1000 From: John Schofield Subject: Alloy: I have a dream... A sign, a sign... I remember not so long ago a number of Alloyd's had Dolbesk dreams and - guess what - I have just been so blessed. I was in a large, well furnished, room overlooking a beach. It was slightly overcast and cold outside so there was a fire set in the middle of the room (you know - one of those round jobbies). The room was full of people - all Alloy folk I believe - drinking wine and relaxing. Some faces I recognised (from Paul's scrap book) some I couldn't see. I had a really warm feeling of being amongst friends. Anyway the_copse was sitting at a baby grand piano just playing some lay-back lounge type music so I sat alongside him and suggested we strike up a TMDR tune or two. Next thing I know me and the_copse are doing a duo on the grand. We're playing a medley of TMDR stuff (which sounded really great) held together by some obscure Paul Anka song. I can clearly see Europa and Robin T standing behind us singing along. And then... the bloody cat woke me up wanting to go outside. Talk about anti-climax. What was really depressing was that I found myself humming the Paul Anka song as I went off to sleep again. Has anybody else have a similar dream? (and if so what happened next?) Was the dream in some way symbolic? Was I really astral-travelling? Will someone please pass me another glass of red? John (john@police.tas.gov.au) ps. I hope you all enjoyed the party. This message powered by some obscure Paul Anka song. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:32:24 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: I have a dream... In a message dated 6/23/98 8:04:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, john@police.tas.gov.au writes: << Has anybody else have a similar dream? (and if so what happened next?) Was the dream in some way symbolic? Was I really astral-travelling? Will someone please pass me another glass of red? >> Weird! (well, kind of...) A few weeks ago I had a dream with Thomas in it, but it wasn't quite the same 'party' scenario you describe. In my dream, I'm out by the Reservoir near my house, loading the trunk of somebody's car with huge bouquets of roses. Some are dried, and some are fresh & nice-smelling. There's nobody else around. Suddenly, Thomas comes driving by in a great big car, but he doesn't notice me. The next thing I know, I'm opening a letter I've just received in the mail. It's from Thomas! This is no ordinary letter... it's an enthusiastic five-page epic about how wonderful it is to drive a car... all of the things you can do while driving, details about the steering & mirrors & all the workings of the engine, the way the hood looks from the driver's seat on a nice misty early- morning drive through the country, as well as safety tips & games to play on road trips, etc etc etc. It can only mean one thing... Thomas is coming out here to run me over with his car! Well, maybe it COULD possibly mean some other thing, or maybe it's meaningless after all.. heh heh... nice Thomas... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:51:22 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Thanks, Paul!! Hi Paul!!!! just wanted to let you know the magazine you sent me has arrived safely, thanks so much!! You look fantastic in the photo! I haven't had time to read your column yet.. I'll bring it with me tomorrow morning when I go to have my hand x-rayed (AAARGHHHH...!!!! :) I'll tell y'all the grim facts later, but it's nothing spectacular so don't worry) and all the technicians will ask what this wonderful magazine is, where they can get a copy, and who is that incredible man on the left, on page 79? BTW, your friend has a nice VAN DYKE beard configuration. Paul, you should model! "All is Revealed", eh? Hey, what gives, Paul... that's MY gig, isn't it? ;) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:57:23 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy:Lyrics At 08:32 23/06/98 +0000, the copse wrote: > > (Slarvi wrote)><and let them come up >with the words.>> > > >eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Tooo scary!!!!!!!! > Live dangerously, it might be just what you're looking for. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:57:21 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Eraserhead At 14:45 23/06/98 -0500, John wrote: > > > Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome > films ever made ? > > John I don't know if 'like' is the right word. I was transfixed by it, disturbed by it, bewildered by it. I think it was one of the first Lynch films I ever saw and I've had a fascination for his work ever since. I don't think it was nearly so frightening as some of the more mainstream horror films, which I usually avoid, but the atmosphere he created with the monochrome film and the nightmare feel of the story was certainly memorable. I watched Twin Peaks twice a week when it was first shown in the UK (i.e. each episode was shown and then repeated later in the same week) in an attempt to ensure I followed the plot. I quite liked his interpretation of 'Dune' though some of it was buggered around with too much for my liking, the sonic voice-activated weapons, for example, which did not feature in the book at all. I was amused by his cameo role as the spice mining pilot. Then I saw Blue Velvet, which I need to see again as I think I lost the plot somewhere. I don't know any other of his films/series. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:57:12 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: : Alloy: Funding At 22:03 22/06/98 EDT, Robin wrote: > >In funding for working artists it would, of course, be important to filter out >culturally contributing artists from those pathetic losers who claim to be >artists but really just want to waste people's time, money, energy & press >coverage ....... - > Just stop it now before you destroy the whole National Endowment for the Arts along >with any and all faith the public still might have left in us, in spite of all >the damage you have done! Losers! LOOOOOSERS!!! > Come on Robin, don't beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel about this ;-) Seriously, there is a problem here, which is that a lot of these people who you and I would call loosers, no hopers, time wasters, etc. genuinely believe that they have talent, and just need to have sufficient time and money to develop it. Can we REALLY tell those who genuinely believe in themselves and those who are just after a meal ticket. After all, one man's art is another's toilet paper. I am reminded of something that happened to me when I was on a training course to be an employment adviser, many years ago. We were discussing just this subject, i.e. people who register for state unemployment benefits but find any excuse to avoid taking a 'proper' job because they are going to become a great rock star/actor etc. and the steps the employment service tried to take to make them take 'proper' jobs. We were shown an extract from a claimant's file, which stated that the claimant was a looser, had no employment prospects, gave any number of excuses why he could not go for the job interviews offered to him, and would, in the interviewer's view, never amount to anything. The file was from Liverpool Employment Office and referred to Paul McCartney. Having said all that, I still agree with you about some of the stupid things that get funded in the name of art, e.g. a rectangle of house bricks on the floor of the Tate Gallery for which the artist was funded for several thousand pounds. The argument FOR this went along the lines that although ANYONE could have done this 'sculpture,' no one else had, so it was valid. COBBLERS!!! I'm afraid I don't know where this leaves us. Art appreciation is so subjective that it may be impossible for any funding body to distinguish the wheat from the chaff. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:57:14 +0100 (BST) From: IT Admin - Govt Office North West Subject: Re: Alloy: Procul Harum At 09:50 23/06/98 -0500, John wrote: > > > Salut tout le monde ! > > I also like Procul Harum; "Pandoras' Box" is my number two favourite > song of alltime, but my favourite PH lyric (schoolboy toilet humour > time again) has to be from the song "A Salty Dog", which goes > > "..A salty dog, a seamans' log" > No, no, you mean A Salted Hog, surely ;-) WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! - a longish Slarvi reminiscence follows. I'm glad you mentioned this one, as it's my favourite album of theirs, and the one that got me hooked on them. I remember EXACTLY when I first heard it, which was in my 'hippie' period in 1970. It was a friend of a friend's brother (let me know if you need a diagram for this) who was a fan, and he used to play A Salty Dog quite a lot. Until then, the only thing I'd heard by them was 'A Whiter Shade Of Pale,' which was a revelation. But when I first heard ASD, I hated it. Maybe because it wasn't one of the happiest times of my life (I was 16, just embarking on 'A' level studies, but had no sense of direction, was unhappy at home, was being pressured by my dad to DO SOMETHING with my life, etc.) and Graham (for it was HE who was the friend's brother's friend) kept playing this damn dirgy LP with a cover that had a picture of a very disreputable looking sailor with a scruffy beard and bad teeth on it. It just deepened my depression. Then, after a while of being constantly subjected to it, I found I liked the feel of the thing. Everything fitted together into (that dreaded expression) a 'concept' album. Once I WAS finally hooked, I had to have my own copy. (This was in the days before compact cassettes had been invented, so I couldn't even make a good tape copy. We did have a reel-to-reel tape recorder, but I only had ONE tape, and the recording quality was crap as everything was recorded through a cheap plastic microphone, as I had no 'line out' on my record player, not that I knew what that was anyway). I looked everywhere, in every record shop I could find, but never saw it. I tried to order it, but was told it had been deleted and was no longer available. It was around this time that Richard Branson was starting up Virgin Records in London, (in fact I knew someone who worked there in the early days) and they used to advertise in the music press, and you could mail order from their catalogue. And there it was, listed as 'available.' So I sent off my order form, and a postal order, and waited in eager anticipation. After about a month I got a stock letter back from them saying that the album had been deleted, and did I want my money back or another album to the same value. Being a poor student, I asked for my money back. I was now frantic, and determined that I'd get my own copy if it was the last record I ever bought. So I enlisted the help of the whole of my year at school, putting a note on the common room notice board, asking them to keep an eye open for it in their local record shops. Eventually one of them found it for me. I've treasured it ever since, and a couple of years ago bought a CD copy as well, when it was re-released as a double package with 'Shine On Brightly.' This 'hate/love' experience happened a couple of times, the other main example being 'Benefit' by Jethro Tull (also owned by Graham). Hated it when I first heard it, eventually grew to love it, and it still remains my favourite JT album of all time. Ahhh, those unhappy hippie days; where did they go? Rip van Slarvibarglhee > MTCBWY & your Marble Staircase Plain > > John > > PS Can anyone tell me the real story of Pandora ? > PS to your PS. Indeed I can. I used www.askjeeves.com to search for references and it came up with http://people.enternet.com.au/~speck/pandora.htm which gives a detailed account of 'The Legend of Pandora,' the text of which I downloaded. As this is quite a long saga I'll post it to you separately. If anyone else wants a copy and doesn't want to browse the site, let me know and I'll post a copy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:10:33 EDT From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Eraserhead In a message dated 6/23/98 8:56:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com writes: << Does anyone else here like "Eraserhead", one of the most gruesome films ever made ? >> Gruesoeme? How can you say that about a cute little baby? Yup I liked the movie lots. I saw a great documentary about David Lynch that was released at about the same time "Lost Highway" came out on video. He and the cast went back to the house where they'd spent 5 years filming eraserhead. (and living). Yes its true they all lived in a house that was also the set of eraserhead for five years. More David Lynch news....Mr Lynch is teaming up with the Japanese fellows who brought us the cd-rom game "Gadget" many moons ago to do a "sort of sequal" to Twin Peaks called "Wood Cutters" (actually its wood cutters something something but I can't quite remember.) It will be released as both a movie and an Interactive CD type thing. - --Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:33:14 EDT From: DThurkirk@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Eraserhead In a message dated 6/23/98 9:00:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: << Then I saw Blue Velvet, which I need to see again as I think I lost the plot somewhere. I don't know any other of his films/series. >> Please see "Lost Highway"! It's his latest and really one of his best. It's slow paced and the plot is more a sort of poem than a linear story. It's the sort of movie you should see twice before you deside too much about it. Then do me a big favor and rent "Hour of the Wolf" (Igmar Burgman film from the late fifties or early sixties I think) The two have so much in common it's quite a trip. Robin and I rented both at the same time not knowing that they had anything at all in common and were....plesantly disturbed by the similarities. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:42:57 -0400 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: Dr. Terenzi in da house To those Alloyed in the Bay Area, Just thought you might like to know that Fiorella Tirenzi will be at Printer's Inc in Palo Alto Wednesday, June 24 at 8 pm. I meant to fire this off earlier but I got distracted since I had to take Stephen for some oral surgery yesterday (a not-so-subtle plea for all of you to send him healing wishes). Europa ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #166 ***************************