From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #164 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, June 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 164 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: On a point of order [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: Alloy t-shirts ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy! [PROCAT1@aol.com] Alloy: A pop up video treat. ["Dan Swan" ] Re: Alloy: A pop up video treat. ["Charles E. Kemp" ] Alloy: Dolby Reference spotting: [Keith Stansell ] Re: Alloy: Book question [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: more night vision goggles [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Micronauts! [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Discover magazine! [RThurF@aol.com] RE: Alloy: Discover magazine! ["Beth Meyer" ] RE: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy! ["Beth Meyer" Subject: Alloy: Alloy t-shirts John Hanson asked if there were any more Alloy t-shirts. I am sorry, for John's sake, to report that all the shirts have been claimed. Perhaps we'll make another someday . . . /\/\ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 02:23:43 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Infrared Goggles - a source Robin mentioned: > ...by the way, for those who have inquired: that friend of mine > who wants infra-red or night-vision goggles - it's just because > he likes toys & making up strange games, not because he wants to > stalk people in the dark! :) Being able to see in the dark is one > of his long-standing fantasies, along with having a rocket pack > or living on a space station. I really admire people who work as > hard as he does, and can still let off steam by reverting to the > more playful aspects of their childhood! Yeah, right! Later the press will interview you about him and you'll say, "I don't understand it. He seemed to be such a nice person. Always bringing me goodies from the chocolate factory where he worked . . ." If you're still interested in finding this item, allow me to suggest you call U.S. Calvary at (800) 777-7172. They are a mail-order business specializing in equipment of this ilk. /\/\ ********************************************************************* One enemy at a time. ---Gurney Hallek ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 02:42:53 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: On a point of order Slarvi, One or two or sixteen points for your `pocket opera'! ROFL /\/\ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 01:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Alloy: more night vision goggles A couple of years ago, I had the good fortune of using some official U.S. military night vision goggles. I have two cousins who are Apache helicopter pilots in the U.S. Army and one of them was home on leave and brought his helmet home for giggles and grins. I couldn't resist the urge, and since it was about 10 pm I strapped on the helmet and went running through the woods outside my aunt and uncle's home at breakneck speeds. normally, this is a good way to break a nose expecially on a cloudy light where seeing ANYTHING was next to impossible. but through the green glow of the goggles, I could see EVERYTHING. When I turned back toward the house, I was surprised that the lights through the windows were compensated for and I wasn't blinded. All things considered, I wish cars were equipped with night vision goggles instead of headlights. No more worries about whether that wanker is going to turn off his brights or not, and out here in the boonies where the roads are tight and curvy that is a major concern. Also, it would cut down on the number of times I swerve because I'm turning on the dome light to look for a cd. :) This message powered by the Pet Shop Boys' cover of "Losing My Mind"... ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:19:23 EDT From: PROCAT1@aol.com Subject: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy! In a message dated 98-06-20 00:47:32 EDT, you write: << I just thought you might want to know that the 3-day road trip with the loaded-up car went very smoothly, and I am now safely ensconced in my new apartment in the Denver/Boulder area. Just this afternoon I drove in, but now I feel quite ready to start my new job tomorrow. Let's see how quickly they can crush my spirit completely... ;-) >> beth, i am VERY comfortable in coming out of my lurker hole and saying DO NOT FEAR an alloy members spirit cannot be broken!!! mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 98 11:03:49 MDT From: "Dan Swan" Subject: Alloy: A pop up video treat. While cleaning up my living room this morning, I turned on MuchMusic.. And, to my surprise, they played SBMWS on Pop Up Video! Pop up video, for those of you who don't have it, is a video show where they play videos, but pepper them with bubble captions, commentary, and trivia. The video was full of Dolby Miscellania. I've from the few times I've seen PUV, that they tend to recycle a lot of videos. As it probably takes a fair bit of research and photo work for each video, they likely have a limited library of PUV 'enhanced' videos. Keep watching... It'll be back. If your buddy has the cash to burn, I'd reccommend the more expensive infra-red, or thermal viewers over star scope... I used star-scope in the military, and although fun, it took a bit of getting used to (The cheaper older models kill your depth perception). I hope your buddy works hard and buys lots of really cool shit with his money... what else is life for?!? Actually, I hope he doesn't even have to work that hard, either. Speaking of Cool shit, I hit a 'micronaut' collectors web page the other day.. it was very nostalgic. Anyone on this list collect/remember the micronauts? .............................................................................. "And if you want to Swan, one to one... kid, we don't need a pond." -Prefab Sprout Having graduated, I will soon be losing my U of C account. If your E-mail to me should bounce, please re-direct it to: swan_daniel@hotmail.com ............................................................................. ICQ#: 14324013 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles E. Kemp" Subject: Re: Alloy: A pop up video treat. Dan Swan came unto us saying... > Speaking of Cool shit, I hit a 'micronaut' collectors web page the > other day.. it was very nostalgic. Anyone on this list > collect/remember the micronauts? Yeah, I had a fairly extensive Micronaut collection, and I even have some of the comic books. The great thing about micronauts was the flexibility of the parts. you could combine certain parts from different units to make even cooler stuff. And of course there was the city sets where you could build a base of your own design. It r0qued. ****** Charles E. Kemp ****** cekemp@netcom.com ****** (812) 597-5950 ****** Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning, it shows the world that you've got substance and depth. - Neil Tennant ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 17:00:00 +0000 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Alloy: Dolby Reference spotting: While watching "Win Ben Stein's Money" on Comedy Central yesterday, there was a Dolby reference. One of the question categories was "She Blinded Me With Science Fiction" Later in that show (or was it the next show) one of the categories was "Amelia Airhead" - not as direct a reference to a Dolby song, but close. For those not familiar, "Win Ben Stein's Money" is a quiz show on the Comedy Central cable channel. Former Nixon speech writer and the teacher in "Ferris Bueler's Day Off" plays host for the first half of the show, and joins in as a contestant during the second half. He tries to beat the other show contestants to keep "his money". He gets any of the money that the contestants do not win. Keith Stansell Denver, CO __________________________________________________ http://www.concentric.net/~kasman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:26:55 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Book question In a message dated 6/20/98 9:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eclipse writes: << Copse is right, it's really sweet and romantic that you read to your husband. >> Thanks! But you know what it's like, when you know something that's really great, and you want to share it with your best pal :) !! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:36:27 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: more night vision goggles In a message dated 6/21/98 4:12:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cekemp@netcom.com writes: << through the green glow of the goggles, I could see EVERYTHING. When I turned back toward the house, I was surprised that the lights through the windows were compensated for and I wasn't blinded. >> Yes, they're extraordinarily cool, a lot of fun, and I wish I could find a pair for within my price range. My friend may just have to settle for one of the other things on his list (anyone know where I can get a barrel full of CRAVE candy? :) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:58:56 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Micronauts! In a message dated 6/21/98 1:07:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dswan@acs.ucalgary.ca writes: << f your buddy has the cash to burn, I'd reccommend the more expensive infra-red, or thermal viewers over star scope... I used star-scope in the military, and although fun, it took a bit of getting used to (The cheaper older models kill your depth perception). I hope your buddy works hard and buys lots of really cool shit with his money... what else is life for?!? Actually, I hope he doesn't even have to work that hard, either. >> my pal wishes the same thing for himself... unfortunately he's a very hard- working, cashless young artist & has to work his rear end off almost constantly to make ends meet / invest in his future (as do the rest of the artists/musicians/actors etc in the world... sigh) At least he has excellent taste in toys, and in my opinion, deserves to have as much fun as possible when he's not buried under a pile of perspiration-drenched vellum at the foot of his drawing table! <> Yes, Dave and I LOVED micronauts when we were little!!! My sisters & I had a few of them & I can remember staring endlessly at their intricate little innards. Don't they make micronauts anymore? (people are collecting them... does that mean they're no longer being produced as toys by the toy company?) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:24:45 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Discover magazine! I picked up a copy of the July issue of Discover yesterday, all about the winners of the Discover Awards at which Thomas was a presenter. I've only just begun reading through the issue & the innovations are all quite fascinating. Unfortunately there is NOT a six-page feature on Thomas... oh well, you can't have everything... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:39:42 -0400 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: Discover magazine! Hi, folks; >I picked up a copy of the July issue of Discover yesterday, all about the >winners of the Discover Awards at which Thomas was a presenter. I've only just >begun reading through the issue & the innovations are all quite fascinating. I also picked it up - it is quite an interesting read. I had been wondering how you could embed a digital code directly into the sound without affecting the quality of the music. The solution was quite simple, really - like many of the best inventions, it makes you think, "I should have thought of that!". I won't spoil it for you, unless someone here is just dying to know. By the way, in the Sound category (for which TMDR gave the award), the judges included Todd Rundgren and Ray Charles. Wonder if they were at the ceremony, too... Cheers, Beth Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:39:39 -0400 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: nary a spirit can be broken @ alloy! Hi, folks! Glad to be back among you with my new address - thanks, Paul, for taking care of all that. I did find it amusing that the server sent out first my post-graduation message from Denver, then two pre-graduation message, in reverse chronological order. Further evidence that time does not flow in the usual manner on the Alloy list (along with the fact that TMDR's messages always come from the future). >i am VERY comfortable in coming out of my lurker hole and saying DO NOT FEAR >an alloy members spirit cannot be broken!!! Thanks! Actually, I don't think it's in any danger, or I wouldn't have come here. Though I don't know - I'm now having to go through this CBT course that is ominously called "Compliance Training" (seriously, that's the official name). So far, I've had to learn that I'm not supposed to talk to a government investigator without checking with the Law Department first, that I'm not supposed to keep phone messages or drafts of reports for more than one year, blah blah blah blah blah... It may not crush your spirit, but it certainly numbs your brain. Maybe that's why they call it "compliance training" - when several hours of reading this stuff has put you in a trance, someone from headquarters slips into your cube and whispers in your ear, "You will NOT ask for a raise...You WANT to work long hours...You WANT to bear Sol Trujillo's love child..." Of course, I haven't finished the training yet - for all I know, there's also a Policy Against Making Lightly Disparaging Remarks about the Company in Private E-mail to Friends. Oh, well - after three days there, I already have a reputation as a troublemaker, having insisted on changing my pre-assigned computer ID! Cheers, Still-spirited Beth Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:14:35 +-1000 From: John Schofield Subject: Alloy: HELP - calling all programmers!!!! yo Tim (the_copse), The only way I can think of is to use double quotes (") to enclose your string, that way you can have as many apostrophes in the string as you like (ie. "Fred's car"). If you have already tried that and it doesn't work (as I suspect you would have) then it's likely the version of SQL you are using and I can't think of any other way around it. We always use double quotes here in our coding for that very same reason. Hope it helps. John (john@police.tas.gov.au) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #164 ***************************