From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V3 #152 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, June 10 1998 Volume 03 : Number 152 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Thought you could... [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Alloy: Back 2 Back [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Back 2 Back [Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk] Alloy: Thought you could... ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Re: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row [Keith Stansell ] Alloy: The Best Of Both Worlds [Chris Cracknell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 07:50:35 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: Thought you could... <<...just sneak in and sit yourself down in a quiet corner so no-one would notice you eh? Welcome back Melissa Jordan! Missed you.>> Welcome back indeed - we'll be expecting a full chronicle of your adventures too!! the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 00:57:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Alloy: Back 2 Back In the deluge of messages that have hit Alloy in recent weeks, this info may have been posted already, but here it goes... Yesterday I came across what appears to be one in a series of discs from EMI called "Back 2 Back" which features selected cuts from two different artists. The one I found featured Thomas Dolby and Talk Talk. The tracks are (pay attention, Lazlo): Thomas Dolby 1 She Blinded Me With Science 2 Europa and the Pirate Twins 3 Airhead 4 Dissidents 5 Hot Sauce Talk Talk 6 It's My Life 7 Talk Talk 8 Such a Shame 9 Life Is What You Make It 10 Today Catalog # 72438-19678-2-9 Interesting that Dissidents was chosen over Hyperactive!, still, The Flat Earth is underrepresented, I think. BC - --- Brian Clayton "Just because someone can buy a computer and plug stemish@kumr.lns.com it into the wall doesn't mean that they themselves are wired up right." -- jms ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 08:34:41 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: Back 2 Back Now that's an interesting selection - TMDR and Talk Talk in one. Both progressed from an early electronic style on about '82/3/4 to a much more organic set of sounds later in their careers, and it's taken some very astute guy in a record company (there's a rare thing) to realise it. Both these selections are taking their core from the early stuff (Talk Talk, Today, It's my Life) and spicing it up with the later denser material (Life..., Hot Sauce, Airhead) Interesting........... the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 06:36:33 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Thought you could... > Welcome back Melissa Jordan! Missed you. That goes double for /\/\&/\/\! `Bout time! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 14:15:22 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Alloy: I've been lurking on e-mail load... Hi everyone, I've been lurking a lot lately because I'm looking for a better job, shhhh don't tell my boss. So here is one of those catch - up mails. First, a Big Happy to all those who have had birthdays recently. Welcome back Melissa. Concerning Dolby style ... Is it just me, or am I seeing more people wearing Beret' more often. I know Samuel L. Jackson is wearing one a lot these days, Matthew Broadreck (sp?) in Godzilla, The Denver Bronco's EAS berets in post game interviews etc... As I recall, TMDR has been wearing one for quite some time now. Again, Dolby is ahead of his time. More proof on that time travel thing. Oh, and some other things that I thought I sent, but my web page based e-mail wants to reply to Owner-alloy (whooops): Re: The next Birthday Tape Name : My suggestion as a follow up to Aliens at my Birthday Cake.... The Flat Cake If anyone has or can point me to a good large clear scan of the cover art from The Flat Earth (with the panning for gold shot), I will design the J-Card from my idea. Lastly, the Harly Vasiline joke was TMDR related because I had Screen Kiss on my mind the rest of the day. Well, thats all for now, back to lurking, Keith This message powered by spam which is totally out of my control following this line: ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 11:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: I've been lurking on e-mail load... And don't forget about Monica Lewinsky also! Every time SNL puts an actress in a brunette wig and big dark blue beret, we know instantly who they're supposed to be. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Keith Stansell wrote: > Concerning Dolby style ... > Is it just me, or am I seeing more people wearing Beret' more often. > I know Samuel L. Jackson is wearing one a lot these days, Matthew > Broadreck (sp?) in Godzilla, The Denver Bronco's EAS berets in post game > interviews etc... As I recall, TMDR has been wearing one for quite some > time now. Again, Dolby is ahead of his time. More proof on that time > travel thing. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:01:21 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Local man receives award from Thomas! I'm honored that a local (to me) business person is the one to whom Thomas handed the award last Saturday... almost as good as being there myself, sort of, somewhat! I hope to see lots of coverage of the awards in next month's Discover magazine :) Robin T << CAMBRIDGE, Mass., June 9 /PRNewswire/ -- ARIS Technologies, Inc.'s MusiCode(TM) audio watermarking system was honored as the recipient of the 1998 DISCOVER Magazine Award for Technological Innovation in the category of Sound. The honor was bestowed upon ARIS this past Saturday evening at an Awards Gala held at the EPCOT Center in Orlando, Florida. In recognition of this honor, MusiCode is featured in the July 1998 Awards Issue of DISCOVER Magazine. MusiCode embeds indelible information within music while preserving flawless audiophile sound quality. Since MusiCode becomes an integral part of the music itself, it travels with the music through any transmission media, including radio, television, cable, satellite, and the Internet, as well as physical media such as CD, DVD and cassette tape. With MusiCode, record companies, music publishers, music rights societies, recording artists, songwriters and music distributors have the means to better identify, monitor and control the use of their music. Celebrities, top scientists, and hundreds of technology lovers attended the Awards Gala. Interactive musician Thomas Dolby presented the Award to Dr. Joseph M. Winograd, ARIS Chief Technology Officer, whom accepted the honor on behalf of his company. "We are very honored for MusiCode to have been chosen for this Award," says Dr. Winograd. "There is a growing understanding that the development of new technologies for securing and maintaining the rights of the creators and producers of multimedia content is of critical importance for the success of the information economy. We are gratified that DISCOVER Magazine and the Awards judges have demonstrated that they share in this belief through their recognition of MusiCode." The annual DISCOVER Awards for Technological Innovation were started nine years ago to recognize and honor talented scientists and engineers. More than 4,000 corporate, academic, and government research centers were invited this year to nominate innovative technologies and identify the men and women behind them. Judges in the Sound Category included musicians and recording artists Ray Charles and Todd Rundgren, National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences President/CEO Mike Greene, and Billboard Magazine Editor-in-Chief Timothy White. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:07:30 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Melissa's back? In a message dated 6/9/98 10:17:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, stansell@usa.net writes: << Welcome back Melissa. >> Melissa's back!!??? I keep thinking how much I miss her & wish she were back! Is she really honestly back from her travels? TELL US STORIES, MELISSA!!!!!!!! xxxxxxx lots of love, Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 18:11:37 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Beret < Is it just me, or am I seeing more people wearing Beret' more often. > I know Samuel L. Jackson is wearing one a lot these days, Matthew > Broadreck (sp?) in Godzilla, The Denver Bronco's EAS berets in post game > interviews etc... As I recall, TMDR has been wearing one for quite some > time now. Again, Dolby is ahead of his time. More proof on that time > travel thing. >> I used to wear one in high school, does that count? The stupid jocks at my school used to call me 'beatnik' sometimes, too, because of the hat & my penchant for long black tight skirts & turtlenecks & little flat shoes... ah memories... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:30:50 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row Hi, folks! I am back, after a departure of many moons. I spent a funky week in Thailand in early May, returned, and promptly fell ill with a really, really bad bronchial infection. Believe it or not, I'm just now recovering. I thought I was okay for a while, but relapsed, and was placed in exile all last week, working from home and taking four medications at once. I was so weak for a while that I barely left the sofa for four days. I have this urge to use a blowtorch to clean my whole apartment rather than pick up in the aftermath of illness! My voice is gone, and I'm supposed to sing at a wedding in two weeks, and the bride is freaking out that all I can do is bark like a seal. Oy vey! Regardless, it is good to be back. I did write journal entries in Bangkok, but I couldn't send them out due to the poor modem connection in my hotel. Anyone who'd like to read them is welcome to zap me a line, and I'll send 'em on to you (I won't torture the whole Alloy group this time, like I did before!) It's nice to have heard all those familiar "voices" when I got back on-line today. Coolness. Oh -- Dolby content: a Dear Friend had his 30th birthday this past weekend, and, as a gift (and thank you for web design work he has done for me) I got him a certificate for a 30-minute flight in a WWII warbird. I designed a birthday card that used lyrics from "Flying North" along with stamped images of a vintage fighter craft and a set of silver wings clipped to the inside. I wrapped the certificate in heavy paper that had the lyrics repeated over and over again, using different fonts and colors, with the occasional blared line (HERE COME THE MEN IN SUITS) in caps. It was all held together with satin ribbon and a keychain from the Air & Space Museum that resembles the ribbons that hang off jet engine covers (they're bright red and read "REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT.") As Said Friend is a major league Dolbyphile, it went over very well. (Darn good looking card, if I do say so myself!) Don't forget -- if you make it to DC this summer, let me know, and I'll get you into the Star Wars exhibit at the Air & Space Museum without standing in line! Lots of love from the Barking Seal Diva, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:57:38 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row Melissa, the amazing singing seal was heard to bark: > Regardless, it is good to be back. I did write journal entries in > Bangkok, but I couldn't send them out due to the poor modem > connection in my hotel. Anyone who'd like to read them is > welcome to zap me a line, and I'll send 'em on to you (I won't > torture the whole Alloy group this time, like I did before!) Don't sweat it Melissa, post your journal entries to the list. Well, at least that's two votes "for", from /\/\iles and Europa ********************************************************************* To humiliate oneself is human. To humiliate oneself internationally requires an email account. ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:06:41 +-1000 From: John Schofield Subject: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row >Don't sweat it Melissa, post your journal entries to the list. >Well, at least that's two votes "for", from /\/\iles and Europa I'll third that motion. John (john@police.tas.gov.au) This message powered by 'The Ballad of Tom Jones' by Space ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 22:38:29 EDT From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row Melissa.. You voyage sounds quite interesting.. and although we've not met before.. I would enjoy reading your thoughts on Bangkok.. It is a place I would love to visit sometime... Good luck on recovering from the bronchial thing.. I faced a similar problem a year ago. I was working in the Caribbean.. filming at a few different islands.. and the coughing and feeling terrible progressively worsened daily. At times I felt so bad it even became a bit scary. Finally.. a friend who is a nurse arrived on the scene and brought some antibiotics with her. But not before I managed to give the entire group the bug.. and even though the shoot was done and they were all able to recover in the relative comfort of their homes, they still give me grief about it! The entire ordeal was NOT fun! Good luck! Ciao for now. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 21:10:43 -0600 From: Keith Stansell Subject: Re: Alloy: Hiding in the Back Row I third the motion. Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > > Melissa, the amazing singing seal was heard to bark: > > > Regardless, it is good to be back. I did write journal entries in > > Bangkok, but I couldn't send them out due to the poor modem > > connection in my hotel. Anyone who'd like to read them is > > welcome to zap me a line, and I'll send 'em on to you (I won't > > torture the whole Alloy group this time, like I did before!) > > Don't sweat it Melissa, post your journal entries to the list. > > Well, at least that's two votes "for", from /\/\iles and Europa > > ********************************************************************* > > To humiliate oneself is human. To humiliate oneself > internationally requires an email account. > > ********************************************************************* - -- Keith Stansell Denver, CO __________________________________________________ http://www.concentric.net/~kasman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:14:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: The Best Of Both Worlds I just received an unsettling e-mail today on the Atari 2600 programmer's newsgroup. An online friend of mine has passed away. It is such a strange sensation to deeply mourn the loss of someone who I have never met, whose voice I have never heard, and whose total sum of communications with me had been ASCII text on my computer monitor. But even though I have not had any physical contact with him he was every bit as real a friend to me as the friends I meet daily in the flesh and so too are the dear people on this e-mail list who I have shared so much with and who have in turn shared so much with me. You may be wondering why I'm posting this obituary to this e-mail list since Atari 2600 programming isn't the focus of this list and the answer is two fold. First, I'm reminded of the fleeting nature of life and how anyone could be taken from us in an instant and I just wanted to let you all know that even though we've not had any physical contact my feelings of friendship towards you are every bit as real, deep, and meaningful as my feelings of friendship towards my offline friends. Secondly, there is a Dolby related aspect to this post as my friend had done some consulting work for Headspace. His name was Jim Nitchals and his programming history goes back a long way. He is particularily famous for his Apple ][, and recently 2600, programming skills. It is through the almost lost art of 2600 programming that I knew Jim. The machine is beyond a doubt one of the most difficult devices in the history of the microchip to program, but Jim would encourage me in my efforts with a true enthusiasm. He had a love for ancient computers and their history that other people might have for classical works of music or literature or even ancient cultures. Off the 2600 e-mail list we'd have conversations on all apsects of the hobby of collecting, maintaining, and creating works for these ancient machines. He shared with me a number of his "secret projects" that he was working on for the 2600. One of the most faschinatng was a 4 voice, digital synth program for the 2600 that completely blew away the sound restrictions of that machine. It's sad to think that this increadable project will likely be lost forever now. The release of it was being held until he had cleared some contractual obligations with Headspace. There was also a new 2600 game being developed in secret as well as a 2600 text encription programme. Alas unlike the synth these programs never even made it to completion. And the two of us talked quite frequently of creating a Midi interface for the 2600. Jim also cheerfully tolerated my geekish fanboy questions of what it was like to work with such people as Steve Hales (programmers have groupies too) and Thomas Dolby. The loss of this vast resource of 2600 programming knowledge will be felt in that community for a long, long time. Jim I miss you both as a guru and as a friend. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >In terribly sad and unexpected news, 6502 guru James Nitchals died this >past Friday. In the glory days of the Apple II Jim > co-founded Cavalier Computer with Barry Printz and Richard Moore; wrote >Bug Attack, Asteroid Field, Star Thief, and > Ring Raiders; and co-authored Teleport and Microwave. This last title was >the first Apple II game to feature in-game music, > something considered impossible at the time. Later he worked for >Electronic Arts and had a substantial hand in games his name > isn't usually associated with, including Hard Hat Mack and Music >Construction Set. I've talked to a number of people who > worked with and learned from Jim over the years, and they consistently >regarded him as brilliant. > > In recent years, Jim was the technical lead for the Cyperpunks' >Supercharger CD, a deluxe compilation of games and > development tools for the Starpath Supercharger (a hardware add-on for >the Atari 2600). He spent considerable time, right up > through this past April, helping teach 6502 and 2600 programming to a new >generation of programmers. People would bring > him code snippets, asking if any improvements were possible, and Jim >would whittle and optimize them in astounding ways; he > was credited for doing just this for Oystron, a new hobbyist 2600 game >released earlier this year. > > In the last few months Jim unexpectedly gained wide exposure as the >"leader" of the anti-spam movement. A recent interview > with him on the subject is available. > > In the words of Doug Ansell, who learned the ins and outs of Apple II >programming from Jim when they worked together at > Cavalier, "The industry has truly lost a legend. Time and time again he >made the impossible possible." Jim Nitchals' web page > is still online, and is well worth a heartfelt visit. His site's URL is as follows: http://pw2.netcom.com/~nitchals/about.html CRACKERS (Heavy hearted from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Accordionist - Wethifl Musician - Atari 2600 Collector | /\/\ *NEW CrAB URL* http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html ***| \^^/ Bira Bira Devotee - FES Member - Samurai Pizza Cats Fan| =\/= ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V3 #152 ***************************